Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 10:51:39 +0200 From: Torsten Zuehlsdorff <mailinglists@toco-domains.de> To: cpghost <cpghost@cordula.ws>, "Montgomery-Smith, Stephen" <stephen@missouri.edu>, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Cc: "stephen@FreeBSD.org" <stephen@FreeBSD.org>, "freebsd-ports@freebsd.org" <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: math/open-axiom gone? Message-ID: <ad133a42-6b44-303b-21b3-13305baa29df@toco-domains.de> In-Reply-To: <544ecf5e-4727-0b77-93b0-ab621bcc97d3@cordula.ws> References: <6660901e-1024-8b45-619e-e632eb84df7c@cordula.ws> <185fdc77-9589-29aa-57f3-f50576a9ae61@missouri.edu> <544ecf5e-4727-0b77-93b0-ab621bcc97d3@cordula.ws>
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Hello, >>> after updating my ports tree, I've found out that math/open-axiom >>> has been deleted! After math/fricas unusable with sbcl-1.3.x for >>> many months and now gone too, I'm left with NO alternatives for >>> that kind of software here. >>> >>> Fortunately, I still have a working package of open-axiom on my machine, >>> running with SBCL 1.3.1 right now: >>> >>> $ pkg version -v | grep open-axiom >>> open-axiom-1.4.2_3 ? orphaned: math/open-axiom >>> >>> $ uname -a >>> FreeBSD phenom.fritz.box 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE #0 r303311: Mon Jul 25 20:42:34 CEST 2016 root@phenom.fritz.box:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >>> >>> $ open-axiom >>> OpenAxiom: The Open Scientific Computation Platform >>> Version: OpenAxiom 1.4.2 >>> Built on Friday June 19, 2015 at 22:28:27 >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Issue )copyright to view copyright notices. >>> Issue )summary for a summary of useful system commands. >>> Issue )quit to leave OpenAxiom and return to shell. >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> (1) -> )quit >>> >>> $ sbcl >>> This is SBCL 1.3.1, an implementation of ANSI Common Lisp. >>> More information about SBCL is available at <http://www.sbcl.org/>. >>> >>> SBCL is free software, provided as is, with absolutely no warranty. >>> It is mostly in the public domain; some portions are provided under >>> BSD-style licenses. See the CREDITS and COPYING files in the >>> distribution for more information. >>> * (sb-ext:exit) >>> >>> Do you recommend to switch to Debian GNU/Linux, where those packages >>> are still actively maintained, or is there a chance in hell to see >>> those ports reappear in the near future on FreeBSD? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -cpghost. >>> > > Hello, sorry for the late reply. > >> How did you manage to build math/open-axiom? I tried building it again, >> and I am still getting the errors. You must have at least by-passed the >> BROKEN within the port. > > I actually didn't build it now. It was built a while ago (from ports), > and I was just lucky to still have it on that machine. Let me see how > old it is...: > > $ ls -l `which open-axiom` > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1019720 Jun 19 2015 /usr/local/bin/open-axiom > > Okay, granted, that's *ancient*, already! ;-) At minimum ;) Maybe its already antique ;) > That's why I was surprised that the port disappeared, since I didn't even > notice that it was marked BROKEN. I just kept using the installed program. > I'm surprised it slipped through the upgrade cycle without me noticing, > because last time I upgraded ports on that machine before yesterday was: > > $ zfs list -t snap | grep ports > <...snip...> > zroot/usr/ports@2016-05-13-r414969 1.32G - 22.0G - > > ... and, let me see... yes, it was marked BROKEN there. Okay, I'll have > a look then, but I doubt I have the skills to fix that problem. At least the error messages are very helpful. It even provides a link to the manual with hints how to solve. But to be fair there are only 2 choices: 1) revise the port and wrote numerous patches to be buildable again 2) get upstream to fix them >> Also, regarding your last comment, I must admit that I also find myself >> moving to Linux. For certain tasks it works better than FreeBSD, >> probably because it has a much larger base of volunteers, and also >> because most people who write open source do it on Linux. > > Indeed. I didn't meant to sound harsh. Sorry if it came across as such. > I was running low on coffee and high on frustration. A lot of good ports > just vanished in the last couple of years. Were they still supported? Is there any need? > I really prefer FreeBSD for many, many reasons; but sometimes, you need > to get some work done, and done pretty fast, and there's not much time > to go hunting for the reason why a program won't compile, while on Linux, > a './configure && make && make install' would usually suffice (more or less, > of course, after getting all the dependencies in place). At least this is also possible at FreeBSD ;) But that is not a good way for server. I have some customers paying me to keep old ports running/compiling even after there were dropped from the portstree. This could be possibility number 3 for you. Find somebody who is able to fix it. Greetings, Torsten
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