From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 1 7:33:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A86FF37B41F for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 07:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO warhawk) (202.1.200.196) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jan 2002 15:33:19 -0000 From: "Haikal Saadh" To: , Subject: New Slides! Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:33:04 +0500 Message-ID: <001801c192d9$a36ad290$c4c801ca@warhawk> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Module 3 now available. [http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/wyldephyre2/lst?&.dir=/FreeBSD&.src=bc&.v iew=l&.last=1] I really need help on this one...Module 3 is to do with the filesystem and the material in itself is boring as. I personally have bad memories when this stuff was covered at university...fell right asleep IIRC... So if anyone has any anectodes or quips I could use, It would be appreciated. Cheers. ----------------------------------------------------------------- What's this? A buzzing behind my right ear? Why, that's got to be the embedded e-mail relay implanted in my skull. It turns me into a futurisitic fusion of man and POP3 Server! [The Register] ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://wyldephyre.deviantart.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 1 12:55:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 910F937B41A for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 12:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp-4-60.5800-3.access.uk.worldonline.com (HELO jmdoliv) (62.64.141.60) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jan 2002 20:55:14 -0000 From: jmdupx@yahoo.com To: Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:53:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: fbsdboot.exe Message-ID: <3C3221D7.7232.1A349EA4@localhost> In-reply-to: <001801c191aa$a2b1be70$6f830acf@gdennyj> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org can someone give me an idea what fbsdboot.exe does out of the tools directory in the 4.4 release ? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 1 13: 2:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7893A37B41D for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:02:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-21-136.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.21.136]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA22293; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 15:02:02 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20020101150200.018b1fb8@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 15:02:00 -0600 To: jmdupx@yahoo.com, From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: fbsdboot.exe In-Reply-To: <3C3221D7.7232.1A349EA4@localhost> References: <001801c191aa$a2b1be70$6f830acf@gdennyj> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There's a README file in the Tools directory that explains every tool... at least there was... At 08:53 PM 1.1.2002 -0000, jmdupx@yahoo.com wrote: >can someone give me an idea what fbsdboot.exe does out of the >tools directory in the 4.4 release ? > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 1 18:49:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ns6.icdc.com (ns6.icdc.com [208.244.152.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850B437B405 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 18:49:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from hackmasteer-2k (drkmage@peco.3.galaxy.icdc.com [208.244.152.131]) by ns6.icdc.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g022ncc29636 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:49:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Chauncey Smith" To: Subject: Primers. Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:45:26 -0500 Message-ID: <01c19337$8863a2c0$8398f4d0@hackmasteer-2k> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have to personally say I like the documentation that has been given in the handbook of Freebsd but I have to say that it is missing something. I'd love to see a nice howto section for simple things that everyone knows you're going to try to do at some point in time. How to config x windows. how to set up PPP and firewalls. I like the work on recompiling the kernel. If you don't want to sling crack rock you better have a mean jumpshot Chauncey Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 1 22:22:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from www.jackieoyeah.com (adsl-65-64-89-17.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net [65.64.89.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32EFD37B417 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 22:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4550 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2002 06:22:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jackieoyeah.com) (192.168.1.3) by adsl-65-64-89-17.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net with SMTP; 2 Jan 2002 06:22:09 -0000 Message-ID: <3C32A722.6000600@jackieoyeah.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 00:22:26 -0600 From: Jeff Kilpatrick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: German [de], en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chauncey Smith Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Primers. References: <01c19337$8863a2c0$8398f4d0@hackmasteer-2k> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Keep reading. Links 1, 2, and 4 are in the handbook; link 3 is to a man page found in the firewalls documentation http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls.html http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ipfw&sektion=8 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ppp-and-slip.html -jeff -- This must be your lucky day: This message has been brought to you by the language C and the number F. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 2 10: 0:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.navitaire.com (mail.navitaire.com [205.182.62.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54DE37B41D for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from exchange.Navitaire.com (exchange.navitaire.com [149.122.4.14]) by mail.navitaire.com (Switch-2.1.3/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id g02I0Rr16303 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:00:28 -0600 (CST) Received: by exchange.Navitaire.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:57:41 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Henning, Brian" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: easy boot Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:57:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello- i am running windows 2k pro on a single machine with no other operating systems on that machine. I would like to use the free bsd boot loader as the boot loader for this machine. I was told to make some bsd boot floppies (boot and root) and intall it from them. I don't know what to do exactly. Is there some documentation on this? Is there another way to do this? Thanks, Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 2 10: 9:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pcar43.ouhsc.edu (pcar43.ouhsc.edu [157.142.200.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D928C37B41E for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from jackieoyeah.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pcar43.ouhsc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g02IAlL14574; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:10:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kilpatjr@jackieoyeah.com) Message-ID: <3C334D27.7080709@jackieoyeah.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 12:10:47 -0600 From: Jeff Kilpatrick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Henning, Brian" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easy boot References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Forgive me, but why in the world would you want to use the FreeBSD bootloader if you're just using 2k? As for the boot loader itself, I don't know a convenient way of installing it without FreeBSD, since several files are dependant on FreeBSD actually being installed. If you just want to be cute and have a different bootloader, you may want to look at the GRUB from the Hurd project. I think it may be able to bootstrap from fat32 or ntfs; don't quote me on that. -jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 2 13: 6:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from Amelia.bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E2A37B417 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 13:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdprophet.org (localhost.bsdprophet.org [127.0.0.1]) by Amelia.bsdprophet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g02L6Qb46193; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:06:33 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from scott@bsdprophet.org) Message-ID: <3C337652.E0499206@bsdprophet.org> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 15:06:26 -0600 From: Scott Corey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Henning, Brian" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easy boot References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brian, The first place to start is: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/p277.html I recommend that you read it thoroughly, before any install. It will save you loads of head aches and heart aches. Scott "Henning, Brian" wrote: > > Hello- > > i am running windows 2k pro on a single machine with no other operating > systems on that machine. I would like to use the free bsd boot loader as the > boot loader for this machine. I was told to make some bsd boot floppies > (boot and root) and intall it from them. I don't know what to do exactly. Is > there some documentation on this? Is there another way to do this? > > Thanks, > > Brian > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 2 16:13: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from scarred.noizekulture.com (scarred.noizekulture.com [64.81.177.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58EDF37B41F for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:12:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from scarred.noizekulture.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scarred.noizekulture.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g02GCQPg009208; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:12:26 GMT?g (envelope-from zer0@scarred.noizekulture.com)œ Received: from localhost (zer0@localhost) by scarred.noizekulture.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id g02GCPeM009205; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:12:25 GMT?g (envelope-from zer0@scarred.noizekulture.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:12:25 +0000 (GMT) From: zer0 To: AlCapone Cc: Subject: Re: adding freebsd box to home lan In-Reply-To: <20011227163259.46295.qmail@web14408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020102160903.I3484-100000@scarred.noizekulture.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org have you tried adding the route to the winXP gateway? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/routing.html check out 'netstat -r' hope this helps. .0. On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, AlCapone wrote: > Okie, I have just installed freebsd on one of my boxes > and I would like to add it to my home lan. I have read > handbook part about networking and it seems that my > configuration is fine. > > > /etc/rc.conf (part with networking) > defaultrouter="192.168.0.1" #my winxp gateway box > hostname="gangster.chicago30s.com" #complitely fake, I > do not have a domain > ifconfig_ep0="inet 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > > ifcoinfig -m ep0 (ep0 my network, 3com 3c509) > ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.0.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast > 192.168.0.255 > inet6 fe80::220:afff:fe58:e700%ep0 prefixlen 64 > scopeid 0x1 > ether 00:20:af:58:a7:00 > media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP > > supported media: > media 10baseT/UTP > media 10base5/AUI > > > OK. I am using box with winxp on it as a gateway, > another box with win98 is in the lan and works fine - > can use internet, pings, all nice. My freebsd 4.4 box > pings itself as 192.168.0.3, but does not ping gateway > (192.168.0.1) and another lan box (192.168.0.2), those > 2 win boxes do not ping bsd either. > NIC is fine, just checked by plugging into another pc, > physical connection is fine too - my hub's light is > led showing that. > > Bottom line - I wan to add my freebsd box to home lan > (2 more win boxes) and then use my winxp box as a > gateway for freebsd's internet. > > As mail-list-name implies, I am new to both freebsd > and unix, so don't blame me if I missed something > important :) > > cheers, > AlCapone > ----------------------------------------------- > What is difficult takes time, what is impossible takes > a little longer. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 2 16:27:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B9D337B41A for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 16:27:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from 24129137hfc39.tampabay.rr.com (HELO 1337g) (24.129.137.39) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 00:27:03 -0000 Message-ID: <003d01c193ed$607ad740$0100a8c0@1337g> From: "AlCapone" To: Subject: Re: adding freebsd box to home lan Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:27:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey there, Just want to thank you guys for your help, I havve solved my problem by substituting my nic to another one (dlink dfe530tx+) which works just fine now. Thanks for any suggestions though, I have learnt few things :) Have a great 2002! cheers, AlCapone ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - What is difficult take time, what is impossible takes a little longer ----- Original Message ----- From: "zer0" To: "AlCapone" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: Re: adding freebsd box to home lan > have you tried adding the route to the winXP gateway? > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/routing.html > > check out 'netstat -r' > > hope this helps. > > .0. > On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, AlCapone wrote: > > > Okie, I have just installed freebsd on one of my boxes > > and I would like to add it to my home lan. I have read > > handbook part about networking and it seems that my > > configuration is fine. > > > > > > /etc/rc.conf (part with networking) > > defaultrouter="192.168.0.1" #my winxp gateway box > > hostname="gangster.chicago30s.com" #complitely fake, I > > do not have a domain > > ifconfig_ep0="inet 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > > > > > ifcoinfig -m ep0 (ep0 my network, 3com 3c509) > > ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > > inet 192.168.0.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast > > 192.168.0.255 > > inet6 fe80::220:afff:fe58:e700%ep0 prefixlen 64 > > scopeid 0x1 > > ether 00:20:af:58:a7:00 > > media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP > > > > supported media: > > media 10baseT/UTP > > media 10base5/AUI > > > > > > OK. I am using box with winxp on it as a gateway, > > another box with win98 is in the lan and works fine - > > can use internet, pings, all nice. My freebsd 4.4 box > > pings itself as 192.168.0.3, but does not ping gateway > > (192.168.0.1) and another lan box (192.168.0.2), those > > 2 win boxes do not ping bsd either. > > NIC is fine, just checked by plugging into another pc, > > physical connection is fine too - my hub's light is > > led showing that. > > > > Bottom line - I wan to add my freebsd box to home lan > > (2 more win boxes) and then use my winxp box as a > > gateway for freebsd's internet. > > > > As mail-list-name implies, I am new to both freebsd > > and unix, so don't blame me if I missed something > > important :) > > > > cheers, > > AlCapone > > ----------------------------------------------- > > What is difficult takes time, what is impossible takes > > a little longer. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 3 0:37:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from moon.drustvo-dns.si (mail.drustvo-dns.si [193.77.201.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F33537B419 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix ([193.189.183.220]) by moon.drustvo-dns.si (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GPCSEB00.G0Q for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:18:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c19431$2e497940$dcb7bdc1@unix> From: "Martin Zibert" To: Subject: Scroller on the mouse Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:32:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C19439.8D5E2A90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C19439.8D5E2A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings.. 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    • The Time is NOW a= t Sharecom

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)= , the National Weather Service (NWS), the Red Cross and = AAA are a but a few of the agencies and organizations with whom = ShareCom Inc. has forged alliances to ensure clear competitive a= dvantage for its product lines. The past 10 years have seen a dram= atic increase in severe weather conditions=FFFFFF85and with continued glob= al warming these patterns will exacerbate. Prompted by FEMA and NWS aggres= sive programs, demand for the Company=FFFFFF92s NOAA Weather Radio will= soar. Today 7% of American homes possess a NOAA radio=FFFFFF85 = the national goal is 100%. 

    ShareCom=FFFFFF92s ww= w.WeatherRadios.com is the site for consumers to purchase the Company=FF= FFFF92s superior product at a significant discount. SHCC's revenue flow ra= te is at $45,000/month and rapidly growing. The Company will realiz= e a profit this year and plans to triple it next.. SHCC's market dominance= in this growing "bread and butter", niche business makes it an = interesting acquisition candidate and a compelling investment.

    This Just Out: SHCC NEWS

    =
     

    ShareCom, Inc. Ships the First NOAA = Weather Radio Featuring Instant Localized Setup

    PALATINE, Ill.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 11, 2001--ShareCom, In= c.(TM), the market leader in designing and manufacturing NOAA (National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration) Weather Radi= o and Disaster Readiness electronics products, today announced availabilit= y of its WRP-500 Broadcaster(TM) NOAA Weather Radio, with an SRP of= $149.99, available for purchase via its ecommerce web site and through se= lect retailers around the country. Like all ShareCom products, the WRP-500= features a streamlined and fashionable design, coupled with strong price = performance.

    ShareCom manufactures products which are expressly d= esigned to support the in-place NOAA Weather Network - an always on (24/7)= broadcast network that covers 95% of the US. This ``early warning'= ' network provides general-purpose weather information and alerts for haza= rdous weather or disaster warnings for people throughout the US.

    = The Federal Government, The Americ= an Red Cross and numerous state and local government agencies a= re now emphasizing the need for the NOAA Weather Radio network, especially= since the September 11th tragedy. A NOAA Weather Radio is now consi= dered as important as having a smoke detector in a home, school or busines= s.

    ``Our market research in= dicated a strong need in the marketplace for a NOAA Weather Radio that loo= ks good in someone's home or office, but that has real ease of use built i= nto the overall design,'' said Brad Nordling the CEO of ShareCom, Inc. ``O= ne of the most requested feature enhancements from our consumers has been = to provide functionality that enables them to setup a radio right out of t= he box, with no cumbersome interface to deal with. The WRP-500 Broadcaster= addresses this need by incorporating our Graphical Alert Technology(TM) s= pecialty software - our customers now have the ability to easily config= ure their radios in a matter of seconds using a functional scroll down men= u.''

    Stay tun= ed for more announcements to come

More Reasons to Consider Buyin= g SHCC

1.= WeatherRadios.com has been awar= ded a National Partnership with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (F= EMA) to increase the use of Weather Radios country wide through a = program called Project Impact. There are 2,600 Project Impact communities = in the U.S. The FEMA web site lists WeatherRadios.com as a national partne= r providing a banner and link to the WeatherRadios.com site. The FEMA site= receives over 100,000 visitors per day. 

2. The Nat= ional Oceanic and Aerospace Administration (NOAA) has WeatherRadio= s.com listed first on their web site, telling people were to purchase a NO= AA Weather Radio. 

3. The National Weather Serv= ice (NWS) has offered to promote corporate sponsorships to the Wea= therRadios.com site through recognition and media support.  &nbs= p;

4. Local American Red Cross Chapters will promo= te NOAA Weather Radios through WeatherRadios.com in an exchange fo= r a $5.00 donation per radio sold. 

5. The Chicago= Area AAA will feature SHCC's 2WayTalk.com on its web site offering exclusive discounts on Weather Radios,= and FRS Family Radios. 2WayTalk.com will also be listed in the AAA magazi= ne called "Home and Away". 

6. The Federation of Manufactured Home Owners of Florid= a (FMO) has entered into a one year agreement that will increase t= he sale of Weather Radios from the WeatherRadios.com site. Mailings and we= b site links will offer a group discount to members and also pay a rebate = to the organization for every radio sold. 

7. The Owner - Operat= or Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) has begun to promote th= e discount that is offered through the WeatherRadios.com site. Magazine ar= ticles, mailings, and web site links will offer a group discount to member= s and also pay a rebate to the organization for every radio sold. This agr= eement will run for one year. 

     NOAA Weather Radios automatically alert people of impending severe weather conditions &= quot;24/7". This is especially critical for families while sleeping. = These devices are fast becoming recognized as essential and pote= ntially life saving for use in homes, businesses, and critical care fa= cilities.

The National Weather Service (NWS)<= /font> has stated that t= here has been an increase in severe weather in the last 10 years and this = trend is expected to continue. NWS has a published goal for NOAA Weathe= r Radios to be in every home within the next 10 years. Currentl= y, approximately just 7% of homes have this device. This being said= , we can expect a tremendous increase in the presence and sale of weath= er radios over the coming years. The NWS, NOAA, the Federal Emergency = Management Agency (FEMA) and other government agencies have an aggressive = education and funding effort to reach the 100% goal.

New technology called Specific Area Mess= age Encoding (SAME) was introduced in the mid 90s. It allows users to set = an alarm only for their specific geographic area. This feature is expected= to make this tool commonplace in homes alerting families of weathe= r conditions that pose an immediate danger.

Additionally, 2Wa= yTalk.com will continue to focus on Internet users who are outdoor enthusi= asts. The market continues to be strong and growing. FRS Family Radios are= now becoming a popular family item on vacations, ski trips, camping, and = biking events. They are used for a wide variety of purposes, from staying = in touch with children playing in the neighborhood, to coordinating soccer= tournaments and antique auctions. 

A Final Word About SHCC

SHCC is currently= booking $45,000/ month and is conservatively projecting earnings next yea= r of $1.3 million on revenues of $13 million. Unlike most e-commerc= e ventures, ShareCom's marketing "burn rate" is very modest. The= Company forecasts revenues of $32.5 million the following year, in= creasing profitability to earn $4.6 million. Given its impressive relation= ships and the rapidly growing market for its product, SHCC's share pric= e of just 1.6 cents makes it a compelling play for the astute investor. 
DISCLAIMER: 
Inform= ation within this email contains "forward looking statements" wi= thin the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 and Section = 21B of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. Any statements that express or= involve discussions with respect to predictions, expectations, beliefs, p= lans, projections, objectives, goals, assumptions or future events or perf= ormance are not statements of historical fact and may be "forward loo= king statements."

Forward looking statements are based on ex= pectations, estimates and projections at the time the statements are made = that involve a number of risks and uncertainties which could cause ac= tual results or events to differ materially from those presently anticipat= ed. Forward looking statements in this action may be identified through th= e use of words such as "projects", "foresee", =FFFFFF9= 3expects=FFFFFF92=FFFFFF94, =FFFFFF93will,=FFFFFF94  =FFFFFF93anticip= ates,=FFFFFF94 =FFFFFF93estimates,=FFFFFF94 =FFFFFF93believes,=FFFFFF94 &q= uot;understands" or that by statements indicating certain actions =FF= FFFF93may,=FFFFFF94 =FFFFFF93could,=FFFFFF94 or =FFFFFF93might=FFFFFF94 oc= cur.  All information provided within this email pertaining to invest= ing, stocks, securities must be understood as information provided and not= investment advice. Investment News Alert advises all readers and subscrib= ers to seek advice from a registered professional securities represen= tative before deciding to trade in stocks featured within this email. = ; None of the material within this report shall be construed as any kind o= f investment advice.

In compliance with the Securities Act of 193= 3, Section17(b), Investment Special discloses the receipt of $30,000 cash = from a third party for the publication of this report and additional  services related to SHCC. Be awa= re of an inherent conflict of interest resulting from such compensation.&n= bsp; All factual information in this report was gathered from public = sources, including but not limited to SEC filings, Company Press Releases,= and Market Guide.  Investme= nt Special  believes this information to be reliable but can make no = guarantee as to its accuracy or completeness. Use of the material within t= his email constitutes your acceptance of these terms.

To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 3 4:27:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from www.jackieoyeah.com (adsl-65-64-89-17.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net [65.64.89.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D281537B41A for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 04:27:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 6536 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2002 12:26:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jackieoyeah.com) (192.168.1.2) by adsl-65-64-89-17.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net with SMTP; 3 Jan 2002 12:26:57 -0000 Message-ID: <3C344E04.5050407@jackieoyeah.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 06:26:44 -0600 From: Jeff Kilpatrick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Zibert Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Scroller on the mouse References: <000a01c19431$2e497940$dcb7bdc1@unix> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/x.html Section 9 covers X windows, 9.4 addresses your specific frequently asked question. -jeff kilpatrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 3 12:31: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from scarred.noizekulture.com (scarred.noizekulture.com [64.81.177.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B110F37B43A for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from scarred.noizekulture.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scarred.noizekulture.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g03CUHPg011936; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:30:17 GMT?g (envelope-from zer0@scarred.noizekulture.com)œ Received: from localhost (zer0@localhost) by scarred.noizekulture.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id g03CUCY4011933; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:30:17 GMT?g (envelope-from zer0@scarred.noizekulture.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:30:12 +0000 (GMT) From: zer0 To: David Mintz Cc: Subject: Re: mounting cd rw drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020103122847.F11891-100000@scarred.noizekulture.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i've got my primary dvdrom drive as /cdrom. my cdr drive on the secondary master is /cdrom1. i just run: 'mount /cdrom1' and it works fine. .0. On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, David Mintz wrote: > > I've tried RTFM, searching the mail archives, and trial and error ad > nauseum and I'm still baffled. > > I have a Sony CRX100E CD-RW drive as master on my secondary IDE. The > FreeBSD install certainly had no problem with it when I installed from > this drive. > > What the **** are the proper syntax & arguments to get mount to mount this > drive? I've tried more variations than you wanna know, and whatever I do, > I either get 'invalid argument' or 'device not configured' or 'incorrect > super block'. > > Which thing in /dev corresponds to this device? > > Many tia > > > > David Mintz > Spanish Interpreter > US District Court, Southern District of New York > Web Design & Hosting http://www.dmintzweb.com/ > Personal http://www.panix.com/~dmintz/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jan 3 14:45:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web14706.mail.yahoo.com (web14706.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEAA137B41A for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:45:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020103224525.10906.qmail@web14706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.16.148.209] by web14706.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:45:25 PST Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:45:25 -0800 (PST) From: vass D Subject: sgml ? To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, just a couple of newbie questions... 1. i see in /usr/doc/.... i got the handbook and other docs in sgml format. how are these viewed? also there is a makefile there for the whole book, do i got to run make on that directory to generate the handbook? 2. if i wanna get a newer ports tree for the stable branch (4.5 prerelease) can i do a cvsup and have only the line: ports-all in the cvsupfile? will that overwrite and update the old tree automaticaly? or do i got to do more process? so far i've only updated ports and stuff with full cvsup and buildworld. how can i do it for ports only? thanx a lot __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 4 15:57:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C3D37B405 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04628; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:56:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:56:55 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: vass D Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sgml ? In-Reply-To: <20020103224525.10906.qmail@web14706.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, vass D wrote: > hi, > > just a couple of newbie questions... > > 1. i see in /usr/doc/.... i got the handbook and other > docs in sgml format. how are these viewed? also there > is a makefile there for the whole book, do i got to > run make on that directory to generate the handbook? The handbook and faq should get installed (unless you didn't install the doc distribution) in readable format, probably html and text format. > 2. if i wanna get a newer ports tree for the stable > branch (4.5 prerelease) can i do a cvsup and have only > the line: > > ports-all > > in the cvsupfile? will that overwrite and update the > old tree automaticaly? or do i got to do more > process? so far i've only updated ports and stuff with > full cvsup and buildworld. how can i do it for ports > only? Use the ports-supfile in /usr/share/examples/cvsup; that will update just the ports structure. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jan 4 19:10:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C4B37B41F for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g053A1819507 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201050310.g053A1819507@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. 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So Do Not try to change anything other than what is instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!! 1.. After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune. 2.... Move the name & address in REPORT #4down TO REPORT #5. 3.... Move the name & address in REPORT #3 down TO REPORT #4. 4.... Move the name & address in REPORT #2 down TO REPORT #3. 5.... Move the name & address in REPORT #1 down TO REPORT #2 6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT #1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY! ================================================= Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case if you loose any data. To assist you with marketing your business on the Internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD # 1 : BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY ============================================ let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved send out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2% . Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2%response, that is only 10 orders for report #1. Those 10people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That's = 100 people responded and ordered Report #2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 1000 orders for Report #3. Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5 million e-mails sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report #4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million)e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5. THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH = $500,000.00 (half million). Your total income in this example is: 1..... $50+ 2..... $500+ 3..... $5,000+ 4..... $50,000+ 5..... $500,000.........Grand Total = $555,550.00 NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone, or half or even one 4thof those people mailed 100,000 e-mails each or more? There are over 150 million people on the Internet worldwide and counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! METHOD #2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET =================================================== Advertising on the net is very very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add METHOD #2 as you go along. for every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. That's it. Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they receive the report. AVAILABLE REPORTS ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW: ============================================== Report #1:"The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net" Order Report #1 from: G Rennox Suite 284 150 Clark Blvd Brampton, Ontario Canada, L6T 4Y8 CANADA ============================================== REPORT # 2: The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk e-mail on the Net Order Report #2 from: MS Marketing 2714 West 5th North Platte, NE 69101 USA ============================================== REPORT #3: Secret to Multilevel marketing on the net Order Report #3 from: Clairemont Richards PO Box 611437 Rosemary Beach, FL 32461 USA ============================================== REPORT #4: "How to Become a Millionaire Utilizing MLM & the Net" Order Report # 4 from: Bartolomeli Vilela Po Box 1330 Marietta, GA 30061-1330 USA ============================================== REPORT #5: "How to Send Out 0ne Million e-mails for Free" Order Report # 5 from: Marketing Resources 1812 South Hwy 77 #115-179 Lynn Haven, FL 32444 USA $$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$$$$$$$$$ Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT #2. If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report #2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you , and the cash will continue to roll in! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a different report. You can KEEP Track of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAIL SAND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business!!! ____________________________________________________ FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: "You have just received information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you have put your name and address in Report #1 and moved others to #2...........#5 as instructed above. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and your name will be on everyone of them. Remember though, the more you send out the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW! ************** MORETESTIMONIALS**************** ' My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about receiving ''junk mail''. I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I ''knew'' it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old ''I told you so'' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had received a total of $ 147,200.00 all cash!I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her ''hobby''. Mitchell Wolf, M.D. , Chicago, Illinois ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back. I was surprised when I found my medium size post office box crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00 in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does not matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return and so big''. Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e- mailed again by someone else.........11 months passed then it luckily came again...... I did not delete this one! I made more than $490,000 on my first try and all the money came within 22 weeks''. Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- '' It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with little cost to you. I followed the simple instructions and within 10 days the money started to come in. My first month I made $ 20, 560.00 and by the end of third month my total cash count was $ 362,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanx to Internet''. Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON OUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM! ================================================= If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C. his message is sent in compliance of the proposed bill SECTION 301. per Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618. Further transmission to you by the sender of this e-mail may be stopped promptly by sending a reply with the word REMOVE in the subject Line to the email address at the top of this page. This message is not intended for residents in the State of Washington, screening of addresses has been done to the best of our technical ability. _____________________________________________ to be removed randall5050us@yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 5 13:33:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7934D37B400 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp-225-53-180.friaco.access.uk.tiscali.com (HELO jmdoliv) (80.225.53.180) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2002 21:33:08 -0000 From: jmdupx@yahoo.com To: Scott Corey Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:31:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: easy boot Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3C3770B6.14737.9512F8D@localhost> In-reply-to: <3C337652.E0499206@bsdprophet.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org this probably doesnt really belong on a fbsd list at all, but since Brian raised the subject:- advice to anyone making radical changes to a machine running win2k, before you start, take the 5 minutes to make a ERD (emergency repair diskette) so you can at least recover afterwards pretty painlessly if anything goes wrong the ERD is specific to your machine, so their no way to borrow one from another PC if u dont have one when the time comes that u would need it Mark jmdupx_@_yahoo.com On 2 Jan 2002, at 15:06, Scott Corey wrote: > Brian, > > The first place to start is: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/p277.html I > recommend that you read it thoroughly, before any install. It will > save you loads of head aches and heart aches. > > Scott > > "Henning, Brian" wrote: > > > > Hello- > > > > i am running windows 2k pro on a single machine with no other > > operating systems on that machine. I would like to use the free bsd > > boot loader as the boot loader for this machine. I was told to make > > some bsd boot floppies (boot and root) and intall it from them. I > > don't know what to do exactly. Is there some documentation on this? > > Is there another way to do this? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Brian > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jan 5 21:10:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [216.187.106.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD4C37B402; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 21:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by m20.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A73387A7E; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:10:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2001-12-16 - 2002-01-05 Message-Id: <20020106051004.A73387A7E@m20.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 00:10:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 4-Jan : Write protected floppies should be mounted read-only Somtimes the right thing isn\'t always right http://freebsddiary.org/floppy-readonly.php?2 31-Dec : Pictures of the Ottawa machines Pics of the rack, boxes, etc. http://freebsddiary.org/ottawa-pics.php?2 28-Dec : pkgdb - packages database tool more about one of the portupgrade tools http://freebsddiary.org/pkgdb.php?2 26-Dec : an ATI XPERT 128 patch for XFree86-4 I could not find any documentation, so a patch solved it http://freebsddiary.org/xfree86-4.php?2 17-Dec : Make the keyboard work on a headless server (read also about t-shirts!) Sometimes it doesn\'t work. Here\'s what to do! http://freebsddiary.org/headless.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message