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X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:53:50 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on in02.mta.xmission.com) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F8vnh2PQ4z4xtm X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdio.com header.s=xmission header.b=JTTJgmIG; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of rebecca@bsdio.com has no SPF policy when checking 166.70.13.231) smtp.mailfrom=rebecca@bsdio.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.40 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[166.70.13.231:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdio.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[a9development.com,googlemail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[166.70.13.231:from]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[166.70.13.231:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6315, ipnet:166.70.0.0/16, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdio.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdio.com:s=xmission]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[166.70.13.231:from:127.0.2.255]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.52.16.57:received]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-arm] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 18:30:46 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 16:20:57 -0000 On 3/30/21 8:39 AM, Dan Kotowski wrote: > SolidRun's Honeycomb (HC), built around NXP's LX2K SoC, is pretty phenomenal. Firmware still has a few changes in the works, but it's mostly cosmetic stuff at this point and I've been happily daily-driving mine for about a month - yes, it sufficiently replaced my aging desktop built around a Core i7-3770K! In fact, there's a handful of us using HCs as FreeBSD-13.0 desktops now. > > However: > * no built-in GPU, so if you want a desktop you'll need to get one of those and that'll eat up your x8 slot > * no onboard NIC drivers because they're connected via DPAA2 which we don't have any support for and I just don't have the time or expertise to write those myself : There's been some discussion about PCIe bifurcation on the Discord etc., so it _might_ be possible to split the x8 slot and install two cards? -- Rebecca Cran