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Date:      Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:01:15 -0500 (EST)
From:      "Crist J. Clark" <cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>
To:        yoshi@parodius.com (Jeremy Chadwick)
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: tty access/modification times not being updated?
Message-ID:  <199912140101.UAA75154@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>
In-Reply-To: <19991212201037.A6512@parodius.com> from Jeremy Chadwick at "Dec 12, 1999 08:10:37 pm"

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Jeremy Chadwick wrote,
> 	Greetings. I've recently come across what looks to be an
> 	annoying problem regarding when the modification (possibly
> 	access?) times on ttys are updated upon login.
> 
> 	This could be entirely related to the service which is
> 	allocating the tty for use (telnet, ssh, etc.), but I happen
> 	to think it goes much deeper than that (login_tty(3), ttyname(3),
> 	isatty(3), ttyslot(3), etc.).
> 
> 	ls shows the following timestamps (modification time) for
> 	each of the above ttys, PRIOR to the login period.
> 
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root     wheel      5,   3 Dec 12 01:11 /dev/ttyp3
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root     wheel      5,   4 Dec 11 22:52 /dev/ttyp4
> crw-rw-rw-   1 root     wheel      5,   5 Dec 10 14:12 /dev/ttyp5
> 
> 	In the below example, ttyp3/4/5 all have been logged in via
> 	sshd (ports; 1.2.27), and no commands have been typed to the
> 	shells in question:
> 
>  7:58PM  up 18:45, 6 users, load averages: 0.11, 0.10, 0.04
> USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
> yoshi            p0       koitsu            5:24PM     3 -tcsh (tcsh)
> yoshi            p1       koitsu            7:58PM     1 -tcsh (tcsh)
> yoshi            p2       koitsu            7:57PM     - w
> yoshi            p3       koitsu            7:58PM 2days -tcsh (tcsh)
> yoshi            p4       koitsu            7:58PM 21:05 -tcsh (tcsh)
> yoshi            p5       koitsu            7:58PM 2days -tcsh (tcsh)
> 
> 	The instant a command is typed/etc., the timestamps change
> 	appropriately. The above applies to all ttys, not just ttyp3/4/5.
> 	What confuses me even more is the fact that ttyp3 is labelled
> 	idle for 2 days when it should be stating something like 19
> 	hours.
> 
> 	Using FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE (with daily cvsup updates; kernel is
> 	labelled 3.4-RC).
> 
> 	Any comments?

This is a well known feature/bug. See the 'oddity with time' thread
from back in May.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com


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