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Date:      Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:22:23 +0100
From:      Bruce M Simpson <bms@spc.org>
To:        Soeren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Ian Dowse <iedowse@maths.tcd.ie>, n_hibma@FreeBSD.ORG, joe@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: USB->ATA devices
Message-ID:  <20020827162223.GD24795@spc.org>
In-Reply-To: <200208271536.g7RFapYX004079@freebsd.dk>
References:  <200208271608.aa03351@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> <200208271536.g7RFapYX004079@freebsd.dk>

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On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 05:36:50PM +0200, Soeren Schmidt wrote:
> > This would be hard to do right, as the preferred way to talk to USB
> > devices is with a request-callback model. The ATA command would

Exactamundo. That's what makes it messy.

> > There are many possible ATA/ATAPI over USB protocols, so turning
> > the ATA request into one or more USB transfers is a bridge-specific
> > operation. Basically these odd protocols exist because the manufacturers
> > of the various bridges have decided to cut corners and not implement
> > the standard USB mass storage interface.
> 
> Sounds like a can of worms better left unopened...

Indeed. My workaround was to ditch the USB-ATA device, and just get one
that was umass compliant (SanDisk). However, I just bought a SmartMedia
disk for my MPMan. What a pain. Maybe I should get a SecureMate. Or better
still, a PCMCIA->SmartMedia adaptor.

Much pain. I even mailed OnSpec nearly a month back asking for datasheets.
Response was nada.

BMS

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