From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 8 07:47:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FFD1065670; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:47:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jasonjwwilliams@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360668FC0C; Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj19 with SMTP id 19so294409gwj.13 for ; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 00:47:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:message-id:cc :x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=MqHxxmdWhV2RhQbgX9AVA1GKdBbGt2khVSbm2TFjy8g=; b=AJ/K8UQ+A0f+1droJ8lOtPFUQ8+VSRaMWGx3kPI7+xoai6E0rfOngnpNwTDDTdtkm2 uiH/4Q1jSGZSo3hsSpZRKJcv55eiTfMLic0HnzejG7dkzNjyONPTY4DQhb0Wmh+XeeUU LDVOt1j8QwdXhpTppLGYabLEyu37Zp6f8pQuo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; b=IhZ/VVN2S7naYlBgqxzozd3VTXIVZvPXO+cBD5LgdvsElS56z685Y1USv2nnTC0Nzo opc81o8T/rMWZpLM03b/gYxKW3iasR9wxwuu8d7MDefgdsw6mmqzoJN/a8+tNoHoYxG7 N613gjeaLn2K71o3U5MYJ+PBEFdZ29OGbzm9w= Received: by 10.100.136.19 with SMTP id j19mr9340936and.44.1278575265054; Thu, 08 Jul 2010 00:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.86.239.217] ([166.205.9.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a12sm3923588and.16.2010.07.08.00.47.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 08 Jul 2010 00:47:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <4C31C71C.2010606@FreeBSD.org> <4C357F0A.70009@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4C357F0A.70009@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8A293) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8A293) From: "Jason J. W. Williams" Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 01:47:46 -0600 To: Martin Matuska Cc: "Sam Fourman Jr." , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: [CFT] ZFS v15 patch (version 3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:47:51 -0000 Hi Martin, If you're using it for NFS then that can be a good feature, but I see a lot m= ore folks complaining about lack of removal for log devices.=20 We've been using ZFS on OpenSolaris for DB servers since 2006 and OpenSolari= s bits are very stable. In most cases we've found ZFS under OSol to be more s= table than Solaris. Normally this is due to the youth of ZFS and the speed w= ith which bugs are being corrected...which end up in OSol while Solaris lang= uishes under it's long release cycle. I'll posit Joyent as an example here o= f the stability of OSol bits...they use the SXCE distro recently discontinue= d.=20 v19 also includes a number of performance fixes for DB workloads.=20 -J Sent via iPhone Is your e-mail Premiere? On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:32, Martin Matuska wrote: > User and group quotas is no important enhancement? >=20 > We have to see the whole thing from a stability perspective as well - > OpenSolaris has by far less testing than Solaris 10. > Oracle cannot afford to feed his enterprise customers (and these are not > few) with untested code. >=20 > D=C5=88a 7. 7. 2010 20:30, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote / nap=C3=ADsal(a): >> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Jason J. W. Williams >> wrote: >>=20 >>> If the target is FreeBSD 9 instead of 8.1, why not merge ZFS v19? 15 >>> really doesn't give any major enhancements over 14 and FreeBSD 9 isn't >>> coming out any time. >>>=20 >>> 19 would give much need log device removal and triple parity RAID-Z. >>> Both of which are well tested at this point via OpenSolaris. >>>=20 >>>=20 >> these are very valid points, but I am not sure that anyone has zfs v19 pa= tches >>=20 >>=20