From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 01:33:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA15809 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 01:33:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway.net.hk (john@gateway.hk.linkage.net [202.76.7.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA15796 Sun, 24 Dec 1995 01:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from john@localhost) by gateway.net.hk (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA25411; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 17:28:51 +0800 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 17:28:50 +0800 (HKT) From: John Beukema To: Gary Crutcher cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199512232023.MAA00354@nightflight.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Use the raw device with newfs, ie /dev/rsd1e0 not dev/sd1e0. jbeukema On Sat, 23 Dec 1995, Gary Crutcher wrote: > Hi, > > I just installed a 2nd SCSI drive. A 2.1GB conner. > Having read many of the newsgroups info about adding a second drive and > reading amilfrom this listserv, I have partitioned the drive, labeled it, > but cannot get the newfs command to work correectly - I get 'not a block > device' error. > > I used sysinstall to do the partitioning and disklabeling. > > Now, not begin a UNIX person, but I do get by on my own, could someone > elighten me on how to use the newfs cmd to finish this process, and secondly > how and where do I put the entries for this drive so it will mount on boot. > > Thanks, > > Gary > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gary Crutcher email: gcrutchr@nightflight.com > Webmaster URL: http://www.nightflight.com > 'Flights throughout the Internet' voice: 619-631-0666 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 01:38:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA16086 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 01:38:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA16072 Sun, 24 Dec 1995 01:38:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA09957; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 10:38:31 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA08335; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 10:38:31 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA29832; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 09:51:13 +0100 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199512240851.JAA29832@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: your mail To: gcrutchr@nightflight.com (Gary Crutcher) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 09:51:13 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199512232023.MAA00354@nightflight.com> from "Gary Crutcher" at Dec 23, 95 12:23:12 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Gary Crutcher wrote: > > I just installed a 2nd SCSI drive. A 2.1GB conner. > Having read many of the newsgroups info about adding a second drive and > reading amilfrom this listserv, I have partitioned the drive, labeled it, > but cannot get the newfs command to work correectly - I get 'not a block > device' error. Hmm, you should better fully quote the message you've got. Newfs doesn't even want to operate on the block device, and it warns you if you are trying this: newfs: /dev/fd0: not a character-special device So: use newfs always on character-special devices. You can distinguish them from the block-device counterparts by the leading `r' (for `raw'). In my above example, the corresponding character device would be ``/dev/rfd0''. At the opposite, _mounting a file system_ (once newfs was successful) _requires_ the block device (and is almost the only operation that should use block devices at all). So i would have to mount: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt as opposed to: uriah # /sbin/mount /dev/rfd0 /mnt /dev/rfd0 on /mnt: Block device required -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 07:01:38 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA03898 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 07:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA03893 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 07:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA16046; Sun, 24 Dec 95 09:01:33 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA15458; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 08:01:32 -0700 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 08:01:32 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9512241501.AA15458@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: scouch@io.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512240527.AAA18740@io.org> (message from Stephen Couchman on Sun, 24 Dec 1995 00:27:45 -0500) Subject: Re: Problem with tip and Hayes 28.8 modem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Couchman writes: Stephen> I am trying to use 'tip' to communicate with my Hayes Stephen> 28.8 modem. 'tip' responds with 'unable to synchronize Stephen> with hayes'. First, just verify that FreeBSD can communicate with your modem as a generic modem. Make this entry in /etc/remote hayes:dv=/dev/cuaa1:br#57600:pa=none Substitute ``/dev/cuaa1'' with the device to which you've connected your modem (cuaa0 == COM1, cuaa1 == COM2, etc.) and ``57600'' with the highest bps rate your modem and computer can support. Then type tip hayes and try typing AT-commands. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA If I lived in the Wild West days, instead of carrying a six-gun in my holster, I'd carry a soldering iron. That was if some smart-aleck cowboy said something like, "Hey look. He's carrying a soldering iron!" and started laughing, and everybody else started laughing, I could just say, "That's right, it's a soldering iron. The soldering iron of justice." Then everyone would get real quiet and ashamed, because they made fun of the soldering iron of justice, and I could probably hit them up for a free drink. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 08:49:45 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA08187 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 08:49:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.os.com ([199.232.47.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08182 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 08:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from craigs@localhost) by venus.os.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA10475; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 11:51:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 11:51:06 -0500 (EST) From: Craig Shrimpton To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unpleasant scrolling behaviour on 2.1.0 (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I have noticed rather unpleasant/primitive scrolling behaviour when telnetting to another box from my 2.1.0 machine. This is what happens: Telnet from Linux box to FreeBSD box. 1) Scrolling is smooth and in color. Telnet from FreeBSD box to same Linux box. 2) Scrolling is "jumpy" and in B+W. Is the Linux terminal implementation vastly superior to FreeBSD or do I have a misconfig? I'm using syscons with colorls on the BSD machine and the default console on the Linux machine. However, for compatibility the TERM is set to scoansi when telnetting. Is there a way to "smooth out" the terminal behaviour when the BSD box "places the call?" Thanks, Craig From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 10:14:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA11430 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 10:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from smith.crayola.cse.psu.edu (smith.crayola.cse.psu.edu [130.203.2.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11421 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 10:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from brickred.crayola.cse.psu.edu by smith.crayola.cse.psu.edu id <14352-1>; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:14:16 -0500 Subject: install disk wont prompt From: Brian S Wasserman To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:14:22 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Message-Id: <95Dec24.131416est.14352-1@smith.crayola.cse.psu.edu> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I have tried many variations of creating the boot.flp disk and all have the same result. I am positive there are no defects on my floppy disk. I have W95 and booted into dos mode. I used the same procedure to create FBSD 1.1.5 boot disks and it gets to a prompt and I can work from there, but 2.1R will not have any response. 1.1.5 is no good for me because I have an EIDE 1.6 gig drive and it will not recognize it. I am running a Compaq Presario 924 CDS. This equates to: 486DX2-66 8 megs RAM 525 IDE hard drive (near full) 16 bit soundblaster compatible card EIDE controller card (SIIG, Inc) with 1.6 gig hard drive (Maxtor) 2x scsi cdrom colorado t1000 (hewlett packard) tape backup drive (on floppy controller) Does anybody have any ideas to how I may get FBSD 2.1R to go? At least far enough to give me the initial prompt? Your help is greatly appreciated, Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 11:19:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA14834 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 11:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from dw3f.ess.harris.com (dw3f.ess.harris.com [130.41.9.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA14829 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 11:19:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from suw2k.hisd.harris.com (borg [158.147.23.50]) by dw3f.ess.harris.com (8.6.9/mdb(941103)) with SMTP id OAA26716 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 14:19:05 -0500 Received: by suw2k.hisd.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05053; Sun, 24 Dec 95 14:16:54 EST Date: Sun, 24 Dec 95 14:16:54 EST From: jleppek@suw2k.hisd.harris.com (James Leppek) Message-Id: <9512241916.AA05053@suw2k.hisd.harris.com> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: sendmail Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I am running current and now have difficulty using mail :-( It seems that mail needs to have a nameserver running, is this true? I run a small net of 3-6 machines and don't really need that but I would like to have mail working. Why doesn't mail just use the host tables? Is this a new "feature" of 8.7.3.1? thanks Jim Leppek From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 11:37:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA16051 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 11:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16046 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 11:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01754 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 14:37:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id OAA03325; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 14:37:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 14:37:14 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@latte.eng.umd.edu To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Nec cdrom Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A friend just dumped an old NEC scsi cdrom in my lap (I didn't argue!) and I need a little help in figuring out the back panel option plugs. There's only 6 of them, and I know the first 3 are the scsi address. Numbers 4, 5, and 6 are marked "usually off", but right now, numer 6 is on, so I need to know what they're for. Any ideas? This's a nice Xmas present! BTW, Merry Christmas to all of you, and thanks for producing the nicest hobby I could possibly imagine! ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 13:09:45 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA22972 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA22963 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org ([142.101.47.108]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA10027; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:05:58 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:05:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199512242105.QAA10027@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) From: Stephen Couchman Subject: Re: Problem with tip and Hayes 28.8 modem Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Kelly, At 08:01 AM 12/24/95 -0700, you wrote: >>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Couchman writes: > > Stephen> I am trying to use 'tip' to communicate with my Hayes > Stephen> 28.8 modem. 'tip' responds with 'unable to synchronize > Stephen> with hayes'. > >First, just verify that FreeBSD can communicate with your modem as a >generic modem. Make this entry in /etc/remote > > hayes:dv=/dev/cuaa1:br#57600:pa=none > >Substitute ``/dev/cuaa1'' with the device to which you've connected >your modem (cuaa0 == COM1, cuaa1 == COM2, etc.) and ``57600'' with the >highest bps rate your modem and computer can support. > >Then type > > tip hayes > >and try typing AT-commands. I tried this, and can talk to the modem ok, thanks. The problems seem to start when I try to use the Hayes dialer (once I include the du: command). When I try to dial using the Hayes dialer, the init strings seem to be sent to the modem (the RD and SD lights flash, the OH light flashes briefly, and then the sequence starts again. I have looked at the dialer source (I am a C programmer), and nothing seems to jump out at me. The dialer is failing during the hay_sync() function call. The routine does not seem to be getting a '0' status, or 'OK' status from the modem. (When I connect directly to the modem, using your suggestion above, I get an 'OK' after typing 'AT'. On a (maybe) related note, I get strange happenings when I try to use 'cu'. I can dial out and connect at 28800. When I try typing anything, nothing seems to be sent or received by the modem (the lights do not flash). This is a brand new Hayes Accura 288 external, and it seems to be working OK since I can talk to it, dial (using cu), get a connection, etc. Any help on either of these would be most appreciated. -- Stephen ______________________________ Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 13:26:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA24695 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA24677 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA16530; Sun, 24 Dec 95 15:26:32 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA15528; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 14:26:31 -0700 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 14:26:31 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9512242126.AA15528@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: craigs@venus.os.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Craig Shrimpton on Sun, 24 Dec 1995 11:51:06 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Unpleasant scrolling behaviour on 2.1.0 (fwd) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Craig" == Craig Shrimpton writes: Craig> Telnet from Linux box to FreeBSD box. Craig> 1) Scrolling is smooth and in color. Craig> Telnet from FreeBSD box to same Linux box. Craig> 2) Scrolling is "jumpy" and in B+W. I'm afraid I still don't get it. What is color scrolling? What is black+white scrolling? What's the difference? Outside of telnet, is the FreeBSD box still jumpy? Or is it just telnet where you see jumpy scrolling? In other words, does the fact that you're telnet'ing have anything to do with the scrolling? -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA I was going to tape some records onto a cassette, but I got the wires backwards. I erased all of the records. When I returned them to my friend, he said, "Hey, these records are all blank." -- Steven Wright From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 14:45:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA01612 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 14:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.os.com ([199.232.47.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01606 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 14:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from craigs@localhost) by venus.os.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA13755; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 17:46:33 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 17:46:33 -0500 (EST) From: Craig Shrimpton To: Sean Kelly cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unpleasant scrolling behaviour on 2.1.0 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <9512242126.AA15528@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 24 Dec 1995, Sean Kelly wrote: > > I'm afraid I still don't get it. What is color scrolling? What is > black+white scrolling? What's the difference? > By color I mean the directory entries are in color. Like *.gz files are red, symlinks are cyan, directories are blue and device files are yellow etc. etc. > Outside of telnet, is the FreeBSD box still jumpy? Or is it just > telnet where you see jumpy scrolling? In other words, does the fact > that you're telnet'ing have anything to do with the scrolling? > The "poor screen performance" is only when the FreeBSD box is the originator of the telnet session. Telnets or rlogins to the FreeBSD box are fine. Also, local usage is fine. The best way to describe the problem is when I do a dir (ls -aFl) on a big directory it will scroll a few lines then stop, scroll a few more, stop, scroll a few more, stop, etc. It really annoys me. It's like calling a BBS at 14,400 but I'm on 10Mbs ethernet. BTW: It's not the network because telnet localhost does the same thing! -Craig From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 19:18:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA28047 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 19:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA28042 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 19:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA16980; Sun, 24 Dec 95 21:18:22 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA15691; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 20:18:21 -0700 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 20:18:21 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9512250318.AA15691@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: craigs@venus.os.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Craig Shrimpton on Sun, 24 Dec 1995 17:46:33 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Unpleasant scrolling behaviour on 2.1.0 (fwd) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Craig" == Craig Shrimpton writes: Craig> By color I mean the directory entries are in color. Like Craig> *.gz files are red, symlinks are cyan, directories are blue Craig> and device files are yellow etc. etc. Make sure that on the Linux box the terminal setting you're using from the FreeBSD host (scoansi wasn't it?) supports color, otherwise the colorls on the Linux host won't produce color even though the FreeBSD terminal is capable of it. Craig> The "poor screen performance" is only when the FreeBSD box Craig> is the originator of the telnet session. Telnets or Craig> rlogins to the FreeBSD box are fine. Also, local usage is Craig> fine. The best way to describe the problem is when I do a Craig> dir (ls -aFl) on a big directory it will scroll a few lines Craig> then stop, scroll a few more, stop, scroll a few more, Craig> stop, etc. It really annoys me. It's like calling a BBS Craig> at 14,400 but I'm on 10Mbs ethernet. Craig> BTW: It's not the network because telnet localhost does the Craig> same thing! I tried this and I see what you mean! I did `ls -R /' on console and after `telnet .' and the difference is definitely noticeable, I'd say this isn't a deficiency in the FreeBSD console terminal emulation ... the problem is more likely in the networking setup, but I'm not sure where. I naively tried increasing the MTU for lo0, but that didn't help `telnet .'. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA My grandfather invented Cliff's Notes. It all started back in 1912... Well, to make a long story short ... -- Steven Wright From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 21:01:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA01976 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 21:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from else (root@else.net [204.92.4.245]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA01970 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 21:01:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 04:34:40 -0500 (EST) From: James FitzGibbon To: questions@freebsd.org cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: running SPRY SafetyWeb under FreeBSD solved Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As confirmation to those who may be having problems, FreeBSD-current does allow you to run SPRY SafetyWeb for BSDi (and all other BSD/OS 2.0 binaries I would imagine). If you're in dire need, get -current, dive into the mailing lists, and be prepared to play with the OS on a low level. If not, there is talk of moving this into the 2.1 branch soon. Thanks to those who pointed me in this direction. j. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 21:13:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA02506 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 21:13:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sin.multiverse.com (rhh@sin.multiverse.com [199.218.112.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA02488 Sun, 24 Dec 1995 21:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by sin.multiverse.com (8.6.12/8.8.1+IDA) id AAA31683; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 00:13:01 -0500 From: Randall Hopper Message-Id: <199512250513.AAA31683@sin.multiverse.com> Subject: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 00:13:00 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm not having much luck getting my AT-1500 Lance-based Ethernet card working on my new P-100 and would appreciate some help. I can monitor packets on my local subnet using BPF & tcpdump, but when I attempt to put a packet on the line (e.g. with "ping host-on-local-subnet"), the ARP request fails with: Dec 25 00:19:00 stealth /kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo Interestingly this same kernel and same card config worked fine on my old 486. I've verified there are no Port/IRQ/DMA address conflicts (and have tried several combinations anyway -- 340/12/7; 340/10/6; 300/12/7; etc) with no change. Any suggestions on what I should try next (or thoughts on what underlying problem this error might indicate?) Thanks, Randall Hopper rhh@sin.multiverse.com System info: Allied Telesyn AT-1500 ISA Lance-based Ethernet Card ASUS P54TP4XE PCI/ISA Motherboard w/ P-100 & 16 Meg Stock FreeBSD 2.0.5 Here are the relevant lines from the boot log: FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #0: Sun Sep 17 15:51:57 1995 ... CPU: 99-MHz Pentium 735\\90 or 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) ... CPU: 99-MHz Pentium 735\\90 or 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16384000 (4000 pages) avail memory = 14643200 (3575 pages) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: ... lnc0 at 0x340-0x357 irq 12 drq 7 on isa lnc0: PCnet-ISA Ethernet controller, address 00:00:f4:a9:bc:09 bpf: lnc0 attached lnc1: disabled, not probed. ... And the pertinent lines from netstart ifconfig lnc0 inet stealth netmask 0xffffff00 debug ifconfig lnc0 up And from my kernel config file: options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #support for DMA bounce buffers controller isa0 device lnc0 at isa? port 0x340 net irq 12 drq 7 vector lncintr device lnc1 at isa? port 0x320 net irq 11 drq 6 vector lncintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether options GATEWAY #internetwork gateway From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 21:51:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA03304 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 21:51:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03299 Sun, 24 Dec 1995 21:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA03729; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 21:50:21 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA03088; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 21:50:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512250550.VAA03088@corbin.Root.COM> To: Randall Hopper cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Dec 95 00:13:00 EST." <199512250513.AAA31683@sin.multiverse.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 21:50:20 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I'm not having much luck getting my AT-1500 Lance-based Ethernet card >working on my new P-100 and would appreciate some help. I can monitor >packets on my local subnet using BPF & tcpdump, but when I attempt to put >a packet on the line (e.g. with "ping host-on-local-subnet"), the ARP >request fails with: > > Dec 25 00:19:00 stealth /kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo > >Interestingly this same kernel and same card config worked fine on my old 486. > > I've verified there are no Port/IRQ/DMA address conflicts (and have >tried several combinations anyway -- 340/12/7; 340/10/6; 300/12/7; etc) >with no change. > > Any suggestions on what I should try next (or thoughts on what >underlying problem this error might indicate?) ... > ifconfig lnc0 inet stealth netmask 0xffffff00 debug > ifconfig lnc0 up The message indicates a routing/ifconfig problem. Try putting your IP address in where "stealth" is, and kill the 'debug'. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 22:50:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA05059 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 22:50:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nudge.io.org (nudge.io.org [198.133.36.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA05051 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 22:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from else (root@else.net [204.92.4.245]) by nudge.io.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA05265 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 01:49:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 01:50:37 -0500 (EST) From: James FitzGibbon To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Trident PCI support in XFree86 ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone worked out how to support the Trident 1mb PCI video card under XFree with FreeBSD 2.1R ? I'm not definate, but I believe the chipset is the 9440. During initialization, it is found to be an unknown Trident chipset (Type 0x3e), and so everthing goes into generic vga chipset mode. I've got it running in 800x600 using VGA_16, but I'd really prefer to run it under 1024x768. Thanks j. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 23:54:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA07834 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 23:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA07826 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 23:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA24927; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 09:54:10 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 09:54:10 +0200 Message-Id: <199512250754.JAA24927@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unpleasant scrolling behaviour on 2.1.0 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <9512250318.AA15691@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> References: <9512250318.AA15691@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sean Kelly writes: > I tried this and I see what you mean! I did `ls -R /' on console and > after `telnet .' and the difference is definitely noticeable, I'd say > this isn't a deficiency in the FreeBSD console terminal emulation > ... the problem is more likely in the networking setup, but I'm not > sure where. > > I naively tried increasing the MTU for lo0, but that didn't help > `telnet .'. > What was your MTU for lo0? Try making it 1500. Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Dec 24 23:55:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA07887 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 23:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from cioeserv.cioe.com (cioeserv.cioe.com [204.120.165.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA07881 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 23:55:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by cioeserv.cioe.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) id CAA15359 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 02:51:18 GMT Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 02:51:18 GMT From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199512250251.CAA15359@cioeserv.cioe.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: newbie XFree86 install question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I run a freebsd-usually-current system. Recently I thought I'd give X a shot and went into /usr/ports/x11/XFree86 and did a 'make install'. Everything proceded well and installed properly (ie without error). The docs mumbled something about adding a call to /usr/X11R6/bin/xfs and /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm. So I build an X.sh in /usr/local/etc/rc.d so that they get called at boot up time. All is well so far. My big question comes in... what next? Nothing amazing seems to happen. Screen flickers briefly when xdm is called. How do I get the windowing environment? I know lots of people have it running and have the sneaky suspicion I'm missing something silly. All advice appreciated (and needed :). -Steve From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 05:31:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA16796 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 05:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA16789 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 05:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA19237; Mon, 25 Dec 95 07:30:04 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA15874; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 06:29:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 06:29:55 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9512251329.AA15874@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: pete@sms.fi Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512250754.JAA24927@silver.sms.fi> (message from Petri Helenius on Mon, 25 Dec 1995 09:54:10 +0200) Subject: Re: Unpleasant scrolling behaviour on 2.1.0 (fwd) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Petri" == Petri Helenius writes: Petri> What was your MTU for lo0? Try making it 1500. Okay, the magic 1500 works ... I suppose if I thought about it, that'd be the correct size for a full IP header plus checksum or other such explanation, but being Christmas day and all, I'll just assume a little magic. :-) Now, should that other fellow who posted the problem make the mtu 1500 for his Ethernet interface as well? -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA TASK: Shoot yourself in the foot. In COBOL: Using a COLT 45 HANDGUN, AIM gun at LEG.FOOT, THEN place ARM.HAND.FINGER on HANDGUN.TRIGGER and SQUEEZE. THEN return HANDGUN to HOLSTER. CHECK whether shoelace needs to be re-tied. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 09:20:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA25322 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 09:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA25317 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 09:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-27.net7b.io.org [204.92.49.27]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA24359 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 12:20:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 12:20:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199512251720.MAA24359@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Stephen Couchman Subject: ipconfig and /dev/cuaa1 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I would like to use a serial port and PPP as a network interface. During the install of FreeBSD 2.1, the opttion to use /dev/cuaa1 with PPP was offered. The result was that an entry was made to /etc/sysconfig using ipconfig and /dev/cuaa1. When the system boots, ipconfig complains that /dev/cuaa1 is an unknown interface. How do I get this to work? -- Stephen ______________________________ Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 10:28:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA27146 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 10:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sed.cs.fsu.edu (sed.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27141 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 10:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id NAA01802; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:28:26 -0500 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199512251828.NAA01802@sed.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: print help!! To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:28:26 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Dear all, During the break, I messed up my system quite seriously. Therefore, I reinstall the Freebsd 2.1 from the scratch. Now I restore upto 90%. But I can not make my printer work by no means. Previously, I could print many different types of files with apsfilter-4.9.1 & ghostscript-2.6.2 from my old HP LaserJet IIp printer. Now I've reinstalled ghostscript-2.6.2 & apsfilter-4.9.2. I try to print regular ascii file, such as "lpr -Plp ANNOUNCE", but nothing is printed: as soon as I issue that command, I check the print queue by "lpq -Plp": it indicates "no entries". This happens no matter what I print!!! -> actually nothing seems to be spooled at all.... So, I look at the /var/log/lpd-errs. I have a following error message: Jan 2 20:48:11 slip7 lpd[3175]: cannot execv /usr/local/apsfilter/filter/aps-ljet2p-letter-auto-mono ============ ?!?! If I do "cat > /dev/lpt0", then the printer is responding. Currently, I have a horrible time to fix that problem.... If it is possible, would you recommend some solutions? Thanks in advance. Regards, Gang-Ryung Uh (uh@cs.fsu.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 13:27:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA01560 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA01555 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA26484; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 23:27:28 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 23:27:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199512252127.XAA26484@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unpleasant scrolling behaviour on 2.1.0 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <9512251329.AA15874@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> References: <199512250754.JAA24927@silver.sms.fi> <9512251329.AA15874@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sean Kelly writes: > Okay, the magic 1500 works ... I suppose if I thought about it, that'd > be the correct size for a full IP header plus checksum or other such > explanation, but being Christmas day and all, I'll just assume a > little magic. :-) > No it's just that your MTU should be smaller than your TCP window size, othervise you make TCP a stop-and-go protocol. I have no idea when the non-networking skilled individual that changed the lo0 MTU default to 16384 is going to correct his mistake. It's an obvious annoyance to everyone who's using 127.0.0.1 for any purpose. > Now, should that other fellow who posted the problem make the mtu 1500 > for his Ethernet interface as well? > That's the default. Nobody has screwed that (mainly because of the physical limitations of the media :-) Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 13:42:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA02305 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:42:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02299 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:42:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA19770; Mon, 25 Dec 95 15:42:21 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA15979; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 14:42:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 14:42:20 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9512252142.AA15979@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: uh@sed.cs.fsu.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512251828.NAA01802@sed.cs.fsu.edu> (message from Gang-Ryung Uh on Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:28:26 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: print help!! Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Gang-Ryung" == Gang-Ryung Uh writes: Gang-Ryung> Jan 2 20:48:11 slip7 lpd[3175]: cannot execv Gang-Ryung> /usr/local/apsfilter/filter/aps-ljet2p-letter-auto-mono Does the file /usr/local/apsfilter/filter/aps-ljet2p-letter-auto-mono exist? If so, is it executable? If not, try chmod 555 /usr/local/apsfilter/filter/aps-ljet2p-letter-auto-mono -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA In some places it's known as a tornado. In others, a cyclone. And in still others, the Idiot's Merry-go-round. But around here they'll always be known as screw-boys. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 13:46:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA02518 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02507 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:46:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA19784; Mon, 25 Dec 95 15:44:35 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA15981; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 14:44:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 14:44:20 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9512252144.AA15981@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: pete@sms.fi Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512252127.XAA26484@silver.sms.fi> (message from Petri Helenius on Mon, 25 Dec 1995 23:27:28 +0200) Subject: Re: Unpleasant scrolling behaviour on 2.1.0 (fwd) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Petri" == Petri Helenius writes: Petri> That's the default. Nobody has screwed that (mainly because Petri> of the physical limitations of the media :-) Doh! I do remember that, now ... I've been stuck on the other end of a PPP link for far too long. Okay, seven layers ... -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA I used to own an ant farm but had to give it up. I couldn't find tractors small enough to fit it. -- Steven Wright From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 14:07:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA03265 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 14:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03255 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 14:07:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA13505 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 16:07:32 -0600 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Mon, 25 Dec 95 16:07 CST Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 17:09:24 -0600 (CST) From: root To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ATAPI cdrom stuff Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I just recieved FreeBSD 2.1 as a gift, and plan to install it. Has anyone tried out the ATAPI cdrom install? I have a Sony quad speed and it works fine with the Linux ATAPI support. Anyone have any tips before I begin? What I'm trying to avoid is having to reinstall FreeBSD 7 times like I had to do with linux because of hardware problems :) ---- You know you're cool when you forget how to shut down MS-Windows after converting to UNIX. If your reply bounces, try mikepery@mcs.com. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2i mQCNAzB3NkkAAAEEALmLPNi8eMno12K55RT5yMuD5G1EQ9vSzEz+gs594m5GtMZc HKLvG+Wf4QgCuo0pinyxitbC8DHjd8b4gx4CSZPROt4RCe8m6XVJa/fiM3HhgJ/2 BB584txR4lfU4bZRSFSAWWQ8LS+1z1jsQ9IJ5WYgfJyGhLKIKOQsEjYNuO0JAAUR tCZNaWtlIFBlcnJ5IDxyb290QG1pa2VwZXJyeS5wci5tY3MubmV0Pg== =B9oB -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 14:58:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA05333 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 14:58:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA05327 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 14:58:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA10611; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 17:58:08 -0500 Message-Id: <30D8E72E.5070@mo.net> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 20:48:46 -0800 From: Spiderus Reeves X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: www@freebsd.org Subject: Andrew on FreeBSD X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ReSent-Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 17:58:02 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: John Fieber ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is Andrew compatible (compilable) with FreeBSD? On its homepage, it does not specify whether it does, yet it mentions being tested with other OS's. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 15:26:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA06384 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 15:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from bambi.pomona.edu (bambi.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06373 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 15:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #12356) id <01HZ89CP5XWW8WW76S@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 15:26:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 15:26:21 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: Recommendations for SCSI card? To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HZ89CP7M768WW76S@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Happy Holidays everyone! Well, I have a Christmas present ready to use, and I was going to get a SCSI card for my PCI and ISA Pentium? I was ng if anyone had any particularly positive or negative experiences with a brand. Obviously I want FreeBSD to support the card. :) Thanks John From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 16:13:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA08534 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 16:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.os.com ([199.232.47.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08529 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 16:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from craigs@localhost) by venus.os.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA28646; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 19:14:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 19:14:17 -0500 (EST) From: Craig Shrimpton To: JOHN cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? In-Reply-To: <01HZ89CP7M768WW76S@POMONA.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 25 Dec 1995, JOHN wrote: > a SCSI card for my PCI and ISA Pentium? I was ng if anyone had any > particularly positive or negative experiences with a brand. Obviously I want > FreeBSD to support the card. :) Thanks > Take a look at the Buslogic 946C. It is a very good PCI busmaster. -Craig From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 16:21:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA08750 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 16:21:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08745 Mon, 25 Dec 1995 16:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA07053; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 16:21:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA05890; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 16:21:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512260021.QAA05890@corbin.Root.COM> To: Petri Helenius cc: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly), questions@freebsd.org, wollman@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unpleasant scrolling behaviour on 2.1.0 (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Dec 95 23:27:28 +0200." <199512252127.XAA26484@silver.sms.fi> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 16:21:02 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Sean Kelly writes: > > > Okay, the magic 1500 works ... I suppose if I thought about it, that'd > > be the correct size for a full IP header plus checksum or other such > > explanation, but being Christmas day and all, I'll just assume a > > little magic. :-) > > >No it's just that your MTU should be smaller than your TCP window size, >othervise you make TCP a stop-and-go protocol. I have no idea when the >non-networking skilled individual that changed the lo0 MTU default to >16384 is going to correct his mistake. It's an obvious annoyance to >everyone who's using 127.0.0.1 for any purpose. The loopback MTU has been at 16K or greater since Garrett Wollman first changed it to 64k back in FreeBSD 1.1. I changed it from 64K to 16K back in March of this year because of some bad interaction that 64K has with the socket layer. As for "stop-and-go", no, having the MTU at 16k doesn't by itself cause this - especially since the window size is significantly larger than that. You can use a variety of network tools to verify this. It should probably be lowered because of bugs in the networking code. This has likely started to become a problem recently because of some bugs fixes in areas that indirectly affect the Nagel algorithm. 'ttcp -t localhost' still gives very good results for the 16K MTU, so it's not completely broken. It's very presumptuous to assume that "non-networking skilled individuals" were involved in this change. Quite the contrary. If you want to be helpful, then I'd suggest making useful comments about what you think the MTU should be changed to and why you think it should be changed. Your comments will otherwise only alienante you and cause people to ignore you. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 17:27:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA10764 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 17:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA10753 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 17:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lstadmin@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (8.7/8.7) id MAA03820 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 12:04:23 +1030 (CST) From: List Administration Account Message-Id: <199512260134.MAA03820@al.imforei.apana.org.au> Subject: CAP, bpf's, and lwsrv8 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 12:04:22 +1030 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi. I'm having some problems at the moment with CAP (Columbian AppleTalk Package) and printing. I have CAP (latest pl) compiled an running in "Native ethertalk" mode on my net, which uses /dev/bpf's, and have file sharing working just fine. I am trying to get the lwsrv8 daemon to work. Sometime's I get a can't open /dev/bpfXX message (I have 16..) and other times if I use a trace I can see something... but then it all just folds. I am trying to feed lwsrv's postscript thru ghostscript and I'm not sure if this is going to work. I read in another post of someones that you should only have a maximum of 16 bpf's.... Is this true and why? Any assistance or pointers would be great. Peter Childs -- pjchilds@imforei.apana.org.au From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 21:47:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA18296 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 21:47:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18291 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 21:47:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhub ([148.156.21.6]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA04099 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 22:47:13 -0700 (MST) Received: by westhub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.950111) Message-Id: Date: 25 Dec 1995 22:47:44 -0700 From: "Owen Newnan" Subject: reading HTML and ATAPI To: "questions about FreeBSD" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 GM Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: Time:9:52 PM OFFICE MEMO reading HTML and ATAPI Date:12/25/95 I installed 2.1, retrofitting local mods and rebuilding the kernel. I made the error of not selecting the HTML option when I first installed. The installation menu doesn't seem to offer me the HTML option except at initial install (I did try the reinstall option). Worse, I discover all my FAQs have turned into HTML and I don't know how to read them. So I may have missed some obvious documentation posing these questions. Is there an HTML reader that ships with the base installation so I can check out the FAQs etc? The reason I was looking for FAQs is that ATAPI isn't working yet. I first tried view, which took a core dump, then the ATAPI floppy and CDROM by way of DOS. The floppy took ten seconds or so to probe wdc1, irq 15, where I have my CD. It appeared to probe successfully. But the menu did not recognize CDROM as an installation medium. When I later remade the kernel I included ATAPI. That appears to probe wdc1 successfully in a few seconds. Note, dmesg makes no mention of wcd0, which is also in the kernel. Furthermore, I do not see any wcd entry in /dev. What next steps shall I take to make the device, mount it or appropriately edit fstab, or otherwise determine if there is hope for my CD drive under FreeBSD? BTW, kudos to all on the FreeBSD team, epecially the documentation team, who've made great strides. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 25 23:17:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA20150 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 23:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [192.207.105.46]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA20145 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 23:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailinb1.prodigy.com (tinahost [199.4.137.91]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA33500 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 02:16:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 02:16:49 EST From: GRWL63A@prodigy.com (MR FRANKLIN N WEINSTEIN) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-334.50] Message-Id: <091.07387098.GRWL63A@prodigy.com> To: Questions@freeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD Version 2.1 Install Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been trying to install Free BSD from a CD Rom, and I don't understand some of the instructions. I have a DOS based system with lots of hard drive space. However, I only want to reserve 100 MB for Free BSD. I don't understand whether I have to use the FIPS command that comes on the CD rom, or if I need to configure a drive using the FDISK command. Can you help me to understand how I can do a configuration using the install system that comes with this disk? It seems to me as though using the installation command makes the system reserve all its' free space for FreeBSD, and like I said, I only want to use about 100 MB. Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Frank Weinstein Roseville Ca GRWL63A@Prodigy.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 01:20:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA22175 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 01:20:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA22170 Tue, 26 Dec 1995 01:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA07455; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 01:20:47 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA06348; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 01:20:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512260920.BAA06348@corbin.Root.COM> To: Petri Helenius cc: questions@freebsd.org, wollman@freebsd.org, olah@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unpleasant scrolling behaviour on 2.1.0 (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Dec 95 10:01:50 +0200." <199512260801.KAA27158@silver.sms.fi> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 01:20:44 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >David Greenman writes: > > > The loopback MTU has been at 16K or greater since Garrett Wollman first > > changed it to 64k back in FreeBSD 1.1. I changed it from 64K to 16K back in > > March of this year because of some bad interaction that 64K has with the > > socket layer. As for "stop-and-go", no, having the MTU at 16k doesn't by > > itself cause this - especially since the window size is significantly larger > > than that. You can use a variety of network tools to verify this. > >The window size is (by default) at 16384. Just run tcpdump and you'll >soon figure this out. I did, that's why I know it isn't 16k. "you'll soon figure this out" doesn't score any positive points for your assertions. 00:15:11.445903 localhost.1109 > localhost.discard: S 2016000422:2016000422(0) win 16384 (DF) 00:15:11.446021 localhost.discard > localhost.1109: S 2016085048:2016085048(0) ack 2016000423 win 28672 (DF) 00:15:11.446066 localhost.1109 > localhost.discard: . ack 1 win 28672 (DF) 00:15:11.451363 localhost.1109 > localhost.discard: P 1:14337(14336) ack 1 win 28672 (DF) 00:15:11.451839 localhost.discard > localhost.1109: . ack 14337 win 28672 (DF) ... (ttcp -p9 -t localhost) > > It's very presumptuous to assume that "non-networking skilled individuals" > > were involved in this change. Quite the contrary. If you want to be helpful, > > then I'd suggest making useful comments about what you think the MTU should be > > changed to and why you think it should be changed. Your comments will > > otherwise only alienante you and cause people to ignore you. > > >The MTU should be half or less of the default window size. I would recommend >values in the range of 5k to get effective streaming regardless of the >application and specific system scheduling load. Calculate something like >TCP_MSS < MTU < (TCP_WIN/3) and you'll be safe. Yes, in general it would be best for the window to be at least twice the MTU. However, for the loopback device the way the code is written actually makes this work significantly worse than using a larger MTU. There are a variety of reasons why this is the case, and some of them are due to bugs in the code. On first glance, one of the bugs involved here appears to be that even though TCP_MAXWIN is 64k, the actual window being used (as seen above in tcpdump) is 28K and the packets sent through the loopback device are 14K large. This is likely at least partially due to the socket highwater limit on the xmit and/or receive side being lower than the MTU, but I haven't recently looked at the code to be sure. Something to try would be to increase SO_RCVBUF and/or SO_SNDBUF to 64k and see how things are effected. ...or: sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 ...but there are likely other limits or bugs that will get in the way of making this work as expected. >On the helpfulness side, I'd tried to raise discussion on this topic >a couple of times before, until I threw the flame above, nobody cared. The only other message I've seen from you on this subject was worded in much the same way as this last one: "What's your lo0 MTU? If it's the 16384 that some non-tcp-knowledgeable person put in sometime in the past " If your tone hadn't been so completely condescending, perhaps someone may have actually listened to you. Perhaps you're refering to some other messages from a few months back? If so, they probably got completely overlooked while I was working on the 2.1 release, and any other people (Garrett, Andras) that might have been interested don't subscribe to freebsd-questions. Merry Christmas. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 01:51:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA24109 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 01:51:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA24094 Tue, 26 Dec 1995 01:51:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA27322; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 11:51:02 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 11:51:02 +0200 Message-Id: <199512260951.LAA27322@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: davidg@Root.COM Cc: questions@freebsd.org, wollman@freebsd.org, olah@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unpleasant scrolling behaviour on 2.1.0 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199512260920.BAA06348@corbin.Root.COM> References: <199512260801.KAA27158@silver.sms.fi> <199512260920.BAA06348@corbin.Root.COM> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk David Greenman writes: > > I did, that's why I know it isn't 16k. "you'll soon figure this out" doesn't > score any positive points for your assertions. > I get (running my 2.1) win size of around 17k for the lo0 and default win of 16k for the ed1. It seems that some fuzzy logic is applied in the code :-) > > Yes, in general it would be best for the window to be at least twice the > MTU. However, for the loopback device the way the code is written actually > makes this work significantly worse than using a larger MTU. There are a > variety of reasons why this is the case, and some of them are due to bugs in > the code. On first glance, one of the bugs involved here appears to be that > even though TCP_MAXWIN is 64k, the actual window being used (as seen above in > tcpdump) is 28K and the packets sent through the loopback device are 14K > large. This is likely at least partially due to the socket highwater limit on > the xmit and/or receive side being lower than the MTU, but I haven't recently > looked at the code to be sure. Something to try would be to increase SO_RCVBUF > and/or SO_SNDBUF to 64k and see how things are effected. ...or: > > sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 > sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 > > ...but there are likely other limits or bugs that will get in the way of > making this work as expected. > It's good that we do agree on that something should be done... > >On the helpfulness side, I'd tried to raise discussion on this topic > >a couple of times before, until I threw the flame above, nobody cared. > > The only other message I've seen from you on this subject was worded in > much the same way as this last one: > > "What's your lo0 MTU? If it's the 16384 that some > non-tcp-knowledgeable person put in sometime in the past " > > > If your tone hadn't been so completely condescending, perhaps someone may > have actually listened to you. > Perhaps you're refering to some other messages from a few months back? If > so, they probably got completely overlooked while I was working on the 2.1 > release, and any other people (Garrett, Andras) that might have been > interested don't subscribe to freebsd-questions. That has been the case. I was not aware that the people involved in this issue do not read this list. Maybe I shouldn't either :-) > Merry Christmas. > ...and Happy New Year. > -DG Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 08:45:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA09493 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 08:45:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA09488 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 08:45:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12024; Tue, 26 Dec 95 10:52:42 CST Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 26 Dec 95 11:08:16 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 26 Dec 95 11:08:11 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 11:08:04 +600 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: cmdtool scrolling, owplace(1)... Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Two quick ones: XFree86 3.1.2 (from /pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE subdirs): 1. I've noticed cmdtool repeats commands *infinitely* (ie: 'ls' repeatedly executes) and the window must be killed. shelltool with scrolling enabled exhibits same behavior. termcap issue? 'env' shows TERM=xterm. 2. Attempts to save workspace by adding "Save Workspace" SAVE_WORKSPACE to the OpenWindows system menu/submenus results in a popup basically stating that owplace(1) failed to execute. Assuming it's a binary, naturally it's not around. What package/port is it part of? The gist is I'd like to set my XWindows implementation to something approaching a Sun. It's fairly close now (props is great, thanks Donald!) but I'd like to get hold of equivalents for textedit, mailtool, and filemanager.. What's the best way to proceed? A CD distribution rather than the FTP sites? thanks in advance and happy holidays, larry From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 10:05:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA11444 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 10:05:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11433 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 10:05:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA23624; Tue, 26 Dec 95 12:05:24 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA16355; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 11:05:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 11:05:01 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9512261805.AA16355@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: LARRYD@bldg1.croute.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (LARRYD@bldg1.croute.com) Subject: Re: cmdtool scrolling, owplace(1)... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Larry" == Larry Dolinar writes: Larry> The gist is I'd like to set my XWindows implementation to Larry> something approaching a Sun. I've got a friend who'd be interested in a very Sun-like setup ... I wouldn't mind a few of the good old Sun tools (not Suntools :-) myself. Could you keep us posted on the progress you make? -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA I bet it's hard to break farmers of the old superstitions like "Tornado got Old Yeller, stay in the cellar." -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 10:23:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA11850 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 10:23:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11843 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 10:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA16069; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:24:54 +0100 Message-Id: <199512261824.TAA16069@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Version 2.1 Install To: GRWL63A@prodigy.com (MR FRANKLIN N WEINSTEIN) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:24:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: Questions@freeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <091.07387098.GRWL63A@prodigy.com> from "MR FRANKLIN N WEINSTEIN" at Dec 26, 95 02:16:49 am From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I've been trying to install Free BSD from a CD Rom, and I don't > understand some of the instructions. I have a DOS based system with > lots of hard drive space. However, I only want to reserve 100 MB for > Free BSD. I don't understand whether I have to use the FIPS command > that comes on the CD rom, or if I need to configure a drive using the > FDISK command. If you have used up the whole disk for DOS you can use the fips command at your own risk and shrink the partition by the desired amount. Then you can go ahead and boot the boot floppy and install FreeBSD. 100 MB is OK if you don't want X, it may well be sufficient to build your own kernel and have the man pages on line but not much more. Note that when using fips it might be necessary to do an sd on the DOS disk first and remove eventually hidden files allocating space at the end of the partition. > Can you help me to understand how I can do a configuration using the > install system that comes with this disk? It seems to me as though > using the installation command makes the system reserve all its' free > space for FreeBSD, and like I said, I only want to use about 100 MB. Depending on the type of CDROM drive you have it may be required to put the necessary dist files on to the DOS partition and install from there (in case you have an ATAPI CDROM). > > Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Frank Weinstein > Roseville Ca > GRWL63A@Prodigy.com > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 10:47:52 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA12300 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 10:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from darwin.tti.net (darwin.tti.net [206.14.71.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12295 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 10:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lab01pc.tti.net (lab01pc.tti.net [206.14.71.23]) by darwin.tti.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA01696 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 10:51:40 -0800 Message-Id: <199512261851.KAA01696@darwin.tti.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jeffry Komala" Organization: Talking Technology, Inc. To: questions@freeBSD.org Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 10:46:43 +0000 Subject: missing operating system Reply-to: jeffry@tti.net Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.22) Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, I'm trying to install freeBSD 2.0.5 from the CDROM on my system and the install program could not find my Adaptec PCI 2940UW controller. I finally tried using the boot.flp from the 2.1 and using 2.0.5 CDROM as my installation media. I was hoping, at least the install program would be able to find my PCI 2940UW and recoqnize my hard drive. It did find my SCSI hard drive + CDROM and beside reporting some missing packages due to incorrect CDROM version, it ran nearly flawlessly. When it came to partition/label the disk, it ran into problem. The install program reported that it could not create swap partition and it also had problem with the root partition, I forget what exactly. Once the install procedure had finished and rebooted the system, the system would not boot and said missing operating system. As a long time DOS user, I knew that "missing operating system" is usually caused by incorrect drive parameters. I have a 486DX4-100 PCI motherboard w/ 16 MB of RAM, Trident PCI AGXi9440, Adaptec PCI 2940UW, Toshiba 2x 3401B, and Conner 4.3 GB Fast SCSI-2. My questions are: 1. Is there any limitation on the way I should create the partitions on my hard drive? I created only a single slice for the entire drive. The fdisk part of the install procedure reported that I have 4096 cylinders x 64 heads x 32 sectors. What I should have done perhaps, is to create a smaller slice for my root partition, below 1024 cylinders. Am I correct? 2. This is my hard drive partitioning: / 30mb /usr 800mb /tmp 128mb /var 192mb /home 2800mb swap 146mb Is there any limitation on where I should put my swap partition? It is one of two main errors reported during installation. Why the install procedure failed to prepare the swap partition? Is it due to the fact that I put it at the very end of the free space? 3. Some friends also said that freeBSD could have a hard time figuring out the correct drive parameters for a large hard drive. He suggested that I create a small primary DOS partition at the very beginning of the free space to "help" freeBSD using a correct hard drive parameter and be able to boot. I was wondering if this is true? 4. Is there any special precautions for using a large SCSI drive? I am using a 4.3 GB Conner 4207S Fast SCSI-2. I appreciate your help to my questions. Thank you very much. I will make another try tonight as I was able to borrow someone else's 2.1 CDROM. This time, I will be using the right version of the CD. -Jeffry Komala- keshik@ix.netcom.com jsk@tti.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 13:53:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA17922 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 13:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA17916 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 13:53:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA01488 for Questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 13:52:35 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199512261352.NAA01488@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: iij-ppp dialin server To: Questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 13:52:34 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Can iij-ppp be used as a dialin PPP server ? The current BSD documentation says nothing about it. Where can I locate some sample scripts in using iij-ppp as a dialin PPP server ? Thanks. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 14:00:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA18135 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:00:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18128 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:00:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA13069; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 16:59:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 16:59:09 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9512262159.AA13069@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Randall Hopper Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc In-Reply-To: <199512250513.AAA31683@sin.multiverse.com> References: <199512250513.AAA31683@sin.multiverse.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: > I'm not having much luck getting my AT-1500 Lance-based Ethernet card > working on my new P-100 and would appreciate some help. I can monitor > packets on my local subnet using BPF & tcpdump, but when I attempt to put > a packet on the line (e.g. with "ping host-on-local-subnet"), the ARP > request fails with: > Dec 25 00:19:00 stealth /kernel: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo Your routing table is wrong. This means that either your interface is configured incorrectly, or you added some bogus route explicitly, or you had a routing process like routed add bogus routes implicitly. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 14:39:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA19363 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:39:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19358 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:39:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id OAA10782 for (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:39:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512262239.OAA10782@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:38:47 -0800 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Install problems Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I'm having a problem installing 2.1. I am an experienced 1.1 user. I have the 2.1 CDROM. My FreeBSD box does NOT have a CDROM drive. My Windows machine, however, does have a CDROM. I run QVTNET on the Windows machine, and it supports an ftp server. I want to install via ftp. This is the same configuration that I used to install 1.1. I booted my FreeBSD box from the floppy. I followed all the steps, and chose the "developer" configuration for dists to install. I chose ftp as the media type, and specified my Windows machine as the URL: ftp://142.58.14.242. I had changed the login name to "anonymous" in the "options" menu, and pointed the anonymous login directory to E:\DISTS on the Windows machine. I supplied correct values for my hostname, gateway, IP address etc. My Windows machine is on the local subnet. A connection is made to the Windows box, but I receive a message to the effect that "distributions are not available on the server specified", and it lists all of the packages (bin, manpages, etc) in the "developer" selection. The ftp connection remains open to the Windows machine. Undaunted, I thought that perhaps the initial login dir should be the root dir of the CD, and so tried E:\ instead of E:\DISTS as the "anonymous" login point. I also tried "ftp passive". Nothing worked. I tried a clean install from the boot floppy, and this time specified "ftp.freebsd.org" as the server to install from. No go, same messages about packages being unavilable from the server. Same with ftp passive from ftp.freebsd.org. And yes, I changed the user name back to "ftp" (using WHAP!) before trying the standard site. I tried using anonymous as the user name. Still no go. I tried other standard sites such as "ftp.leo.org" and ftp.synapse.com". Still no luck. I yearn for the days of 1.1 when I could do this myself by running ftp and retrieving and extracting the dists manually. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Is there any way to dump the menu system and get to a shell prompt from whence ftp can be run? VTY4 doesn't seem to install ftp in /stand, and "ls" doesn't work so that I can't find it on my own. It must be there somewhere! Thanks, Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 14:55:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA20175 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20170 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:55:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA287178523; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:55:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199512262255.AA287178523@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA221518519; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:55:19 +1100 From: M C Wong Subject: [2.1R] pager error ? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 95 9:55:18 EDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, On one of my 2.1R machine, recently I ran into the following errors very oftern when the system start paging a fair bit. I have 200MB swap on sd0s1b and 150MB on wd0s2b, and at one instance I managed to load the swap usage with about 48%, about 170M or so, and I start getting the following errors spitted all over the screen, 8-((: The worst case being that some of the processes get killed, like init, sendmail, and for init it will just crash/hang the system, and I need a hard reboot. Any idea ? > lespoir# Dec 26 13:29:57 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence > Dec 26 13:29:57 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence > Dec 26 13:29:59 lespoir /kernel: swap_pager: I/O error - async pageout > failed; blkno 8160, size 4096, error 5 > Dec 26 13:29:59 lespoir /kernel: swap_pager: I/O error - async pageout > failed; blkno 8160, size 4096, error 5 > Dec 26 13:29:59 lespoir /kernel: swap_pager_finish: I/O error, clean of > page 95d000 failed > Dec 26 13:29:59 lespoir /kernel: swap_pager_finish: I/O error, clean of > page 95d000 failed > Dec 26 13:29:59 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence > Dec 26 13:29:59 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence > Dec 26 13:29:59 lespoir /kernel: swap_pager: I/O error - async pageout > failed; blkno 8160, size 4096, error 5 > Dec 26 13:29:59 lespoir /kernel: swap_pager: I/O error - async pageout > failed; blkno 8160, size 4096, error 5 > Dec 26 13:29:59 lespoir /kernel: swap_pager_finish: I/O error, clean of > page 95d000 failed > Dec 26 13:29:59 lespoir /kernel: swap_pager_finish: I/O error, clean of > page 95d000 failed - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 9210 5568 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 9210 5550 P.O. Box 221, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMOB9C0mThh0X7Um5AQHikAP/X29L4BKFS04RKN5EGRvc+D52Ane0hdx/ rsUHw3l7GnEs1giCM11oRaks1mogBFbF9xOuE7L9dYGeQCFyfX+7ddrH7dAE6/fo b2BFj01JoTFRDcFQoKO1sfePaUvw7iXg8q981zxKk66Y3X4RY2Mt1/4rv6O5lbJy pUIvV5/4/e0= =G7Kd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 14:57:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA20310 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20305 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA017818641; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:57:24 -0800 Message-Id: <199512262257.AA017818641@relay.hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA221668638; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:57:18 +1100 From: M C Wong Subject: [2.1R] pager error [2] ? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 95 9:57:18 EDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Follow up to my previous mail, here are more logs observerd : > lespoir:/local/home/wongm 124 > Dec 26 13:56:50 lespoir last message > repeated 126 times > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence > Dec 26 13:56:50 lespoir last message repeated 126 times > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vnode_pager_input: I/O read error > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vnode_pager_input: I/O read error > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 1553 failure > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 1553 failure > Dec 26 13:56:53 lespoir /kernel: Linux-emul(1204): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) > Dec 26 13:56:53 lespoir /kernel: Linux-emul(1204): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) > [4] EMT trap linux-netscape I am mostly concerned with the "(probably hardware) error" problem. Does anyone have a clue ? - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 9210 5568 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 9210 5550 P.O. Box 221, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMOB9yEmThh0X7Um5AQFtKAP9Er3rDIg7dodmKieGTzkfvFwxZnWg7jQI aTAgrvEWyO48khyWBK1uq80nN7XS1CeC7cnW2qKrZhnIgZ+g0Jgh2eRp3ezkxVyd k4wKGgzKhlVl5HvOD1oGpjRjOWERbPqxCS3y5yEoyOwAo/ZM0WeunAGcuoI6tCku 0DeYPm78tD4= =Ni4L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 15:03:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA20550 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 15:03:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20543 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 15:03:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id PAA11438 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 15:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA06837; Tue, 26 Dec 95 15:02:28 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9512262302.AA06837@tera.com> Subject: tip woes when Not root To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 15:02:41 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I thought that I had tip figured out...but then this morning I tried using tip in my own account, not as root. I got that ``all ports busy'' error. Got tto be some kind of permissions problem, right? I've openedseveral files mode 0666 and set tip 04777. No joy. Before I dig into the code, does anybody have any ideas?? gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 15:46:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA21988 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 15:46:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from bastion.fulcrum.com.au (fulcrum.com.au [203.2.211.248]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21980 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 15:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bastion.fulcrum.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.11) with UUCP id KAA16930; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:44:40 +1100 Received: from hosaka (hosaka [203.2.211.56]) by fulcrum.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA29398; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:40:23 +1100 From: Peter Marelas Received: (maral@localhost) by hosaka (8.6.11/8.6.11) id KAA12095; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:43:54 +1100 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:43:54 +1100 Message-Id: <199512262343.KAA12095@hosaka> To: questions@freebsd.org, mcquiggi@sfu.ca Subject: Re: Install problems X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Wed Dec 27 09:20:47 1995 > X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 14:38:47 -0800 > To: questions@freebsd.org > From: Kevin McQuiggin > Subject: Install problems > Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org > Precedence: bulk > > Hi! > > I'm having a problem installing 2.1. I am an experienced 1.1 user. > > I have the 2.1 CDROM. My FreeBSD box does NOT have a CDROM drive. > > My Windows machine, however, does have a CDROM. I run QVTNET on the Windows > machine, and it supports an ftp server. > > I want to install via ftp. This is the same configuration that I used to > install 1.1. > > I booted my FreeBSD box from the floppy. I followed all the steps, and chose > the "developer" configuration for dists to install. I chose ftp as the media > type, and specified my Windows machine as the URL: ftp://142.58.14.242. I > had changed the login name to "anonymous" in the "options" menu, and pointed > the anonymous login directory to E:\DISTS on the Windows machine. > > I supplied correct values for my hostname, gateway, IP address etc. My > Windows machine is on the local subnet. Then you dont need a "gateway". > > A connection is made to the Windows box, but I receive a message to the > effect that "distributions are not available on the server specified", and > it lists all of the packages (bin, manpages, etc) in the "developer" selection. > > The ftp connection remains open to the Windows machine. > > Undaunted, I thought that perhaps the initial login dir should be the root > dir of the CD, and so tried E:\ instead of E:\DISTS as the "anonymous" login > point. > Pressing ALT-F3, I think it is, gives you a shell, try ftp to your windows box, and see what you get as well.. Try to mimic what freebsd "would" be doing.. Do you see any errors? > I also tried "ftp passive". > > Nothing worked. I tried a clean install from the boot floppy, and this time > specified "ftp.freebsd.org" as the server to install from. No go, same > messages about packages being unavilable from the server. Same with ftp > passive from ftp.freebsd.org. And yes, I changed the user name back to "ftp" > (using WHAP!) before trying the standard site. > > I tried using anonymous as the user name. Still no go. I tried other > standard sites such as "ftp.leo.org" and ftp.synapse.com". Still no luck. > > I yearn for the days of 1.1 when I could do this myself by running ftp and > retrieving and extracting the dists manually. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > Is there any way to dump the menu system and get to a shell prompt from > whence ftp can be run? VTY4 doesn't seem to install ftp in /stand, and "ls" > doesn't work so that I can't find it on my own. It must be there somewhere! > I installed it the same way.. 2 things.. make sure anyone can login with ftp. second.. the tree structure should look exactly the same as ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE that is.. bin/ src/ des/ etc... But only include the directories/files you want to install.. so.. If all this sits under foo.com.au:/freebsd give freebsd exactly that.. and the structure would be.. e:\freebsd\bin e:\freebsd\src e:\freebsd\des Peter From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 16:42:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA24005 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 16:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from bastion.fulcrum.com.au (fulcrum.com.au [203.2.211.248]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23985 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 16:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bastion.fulcrum.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.11) with UUCP id LAA17199; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:39:34 +1100 Received: from hosaka (hosaka [203.2.211.56]) by fulcrum.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA00326; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:31:48 +1100 From: Peter Marelas Received: (maral@localhost) by hosaka (8.6.11/8.6.11) id LAA12302; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:35:19 +1100 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:35:19 +1100 Message-Id: <199512270035.LAA12302@hosaka> To: questions@freebsd.org, kline@tera.com Subject: Re: tip woes when Not root X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Wed Dec 27 09:40:46 1995 > From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) > Subject: tip woes when Not root > To: questions@freebsd.org > Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 15:02:41 -0800 (PST) > Content-Type: text > Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org > Precedence: bulk > > > > > I thought that I had tip figured out...but then this morning > I tried using tip in my own account, not as root. I got that > ``all ports busy'' error. > > Got tto be some kind of permissions problem, right? I've > openedseveral files mode 0666 and set tip 04777. No joy. > > Before I dig into the code, does anybody have any ideas?? > > gary kline > > > Add yourself to group dialer. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 16:45:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA24163 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 16:45:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii2.iii.net (root@iii2.iii.net [199.232.40.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24151 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 16:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mud@localhost) by iii2.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id TAA27581; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:45:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:45:37 -0500 (EST) From: "David E. Berthiaume Jr." To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: HELP!!! THIS IS AN EMERGENCY Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I hate DOS! I had 2.0.5 and I couldn't get the slip up and running so I downloaded the 2.1.0 stuff and the boot.flp keeps crashing when i boot off it if i enter config it runs fine till I type visual any suggestions if you want i can try to write all the 3 erro reports i get. Thanks +-------------------------------+----------------------------------+---------+ | mud@iii1.iii.net | ##### # # ### # # # # #### | _____ | | mud@iii2.iii.net | # # # # # # # ## # # | / \ | | eagle@thryne.iii.net | # #### ### ## # ## ### | | o 0 | | | root@thryne.iii.net | # # # # # ## # # # | | U | | | muds@thryne.iii.net | ### # # # # ## # # #### | | \_/ | | | eagle@virek.mednet.net | | \_____/ | | eagle@virek.worcester.com | Have a nice day! | | | eagle@misty.worcester.com | +---------+ | eagle@mud.worcester.com +----------------------------------+ | | data@nether.net | Out of the wild, | KEVIN | | milkyway@nether.net | you hear a howl, | DRASTIC | | david.berthiaume@swcbbs.com | it draws you closer... | | +-------------------------------+----------------------------------+---------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 17:28:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25775 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 17:28:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from vp.netgate.net (root@vp.netgate.net [204.145.147.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25756 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 17:27:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from vp.netgate.net (htmlpro@vp.netgate.net [204.145.147.18]) by vp.netgate.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA28378 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 17:43:52 -0800 Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 17:43:52 -0800 (PST) From: HTMLPro Staff To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Boot Manager Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Can you please send me some information on seting up your Boot Manager. I having some problems and would like in depth instructions. Thanks Nicholas Blasgen From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 18:41:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA27807 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 18:41:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from strech.cyber-naut.com (strech.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27801 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 18:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by strech.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA13615 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:39:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:39:57 -0700 From: Blair Schmittel Message-Id: <199512270239.TAA13615@strech.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: HELP FreeBSD won't boot off of EIDE Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I have a 1.6 gig WD HDD and a GSI EIDE controller. I installed the drive and the BIOS picked up the 1.6 gig. The GSI BIOS didn't. I installed Windows95 on the first 503 meg (It was all dos would see). And then I installed FreeBSD on the remaining 1+ gig. I rebooted the computer and it gave me this message: Boot: Error: c:1024 > 1023 (BIOS limit) Any suggestions??? Thanks, Blair From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 19:24:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA29329 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:24:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA29322 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id WAA00200; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 22:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id WAA07510; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 22:24:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 22:24:24 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@espresso.eng.umd.edu To: Blair Schmittel cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP FreeBSD won't boot off of EIDE In-Reply-To: <199512270239.TAA13615@strech.cyber-naut.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Dec 1995, Blair Schmittel wrote: > Hello. > > I have a 1.6 gig WD HDD and a GSI EIDE controller. > > I installed the drive and the BIOS picked up the 1.6 gig. The GSI BIOS didn't. I installed Windows95 on the first 503 meg (It was all dos would see). And then I installed FreeBSD on the remaining 1+ gig. I rebooted the computer and it gave me this message: > > Boot: > Error: c:1024 > 1023 (BIOS limit) > > Any suggestions??? Blair, while FreeBSD doesn't have the 1023 cylinder limit itself, it is booted from the BIOS, so the beginning of the FreeBSD (the boot sector) has to be visible to the BIOS. This means that FreeBSD has to have it's boot sector below the 1023 cylinder point. That error you're seeing isn't from FreeBSD, because FreeBSD hasn't booted at that point. > > Thanks, > Blair > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 19:25:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA29402 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA29395 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:25:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12263; Tue, 26 Dec 95 21:32:12 CST Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 26 Dec 95 21:47:56 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 26 Dec 95 21:47:54 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 21:47:53 +600 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: cmdtool scrolling, owplace(1)... Cc: questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thus spake kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) (Tue, 26 Dec 1995): | >>>>> "Larry" == Larry Dolinar writes: | | Larry> The gist is I'd like to set my XWindows implementation to | Larry> something approaching a Sun. | | I've got a friend who'd be interested in a very Sun-like setup ... I | wouldn't mind a few of the good old Sun tools (not Suntools :-) | myself. | | Could you keep us posted on the progress you make? | no problem at all... From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 19:42:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA00312 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:42:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from haywire.DIALix.COM (news@haywire.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA00303 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 19:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from news@localhost) by haywire.DIALix.COM (sendmail) id LAA10375 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:42:03 +0800 (WST) Received: from GATEWAY by haywire.DIALix.COM with netnews for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (problems to: usenet@haywire.dialix.com) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 27 Dec 1995 11:41:57 +0800 From: peter@haywire.dialix.com (Peter Wemm) Message-ID: <4bqfa5$a3i$1@haywire.DIALix.COM> Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Australia. References: Subject: Re: Nec cdrom Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) writes: >A friend just dumped an old NEC scsi cdrom in my lap (I didn't argue!) >and I need a little help in figuring out the back panel option plugs. >There's only 6 of them, and I know the first 3 are the scsi address. >Numbers 4, 5, and 6 are marked "usually off", but right now, numer 6 is >on, so I need to know what they're for. Any ideas? >This's a nice Xmas present! >BTW, Merry Christmas to all of you, and thanks for producing the nicest >hobby I could possibly imagine! I have not been able to figure it out either, although jumper 4 seems to be some sort of diagnostic enable. I've been fighting with a "Model: CDR-55JD" NEC drive for the last few days. This drive and I have reached an understanding.. We both HATE each other. The mongrel ^*!&@%#$*!&@^$*&^@%*&!@ thing put a whacking great big scatch across my brand new 2.1 "live filesystem" CD.. :-( (The caddy doesn't quite go in correctly and catches on something causing it to sit crooked, allowing the edge of the head to scratch it.) The other thing is that it would not answer the SCSI probes at bootup unless I disabled parity checking on the controller. :-( It uses parity for everything except returning the inquire data. Oh yeah, it answers to all 8 LUNS as well. I've committed a patch for my "NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:55" to -current a few hours ago to stop the extra 7 images being attached, but it needs the parity turned off in order to match it. :-( Incidently, with parity enabled, the scsi probe still finds it as a CDROM and can tell there is a disk in there, and it still reads it without parity errors, it just wont *&^@!#%$*&!@ probe correctly! :-( Oh, it identifies itself as firmware version 1.0 as well... :-( As for the 2.1 CD, a bit of careful polishing has enabled the drive to read through the scratch OK now... (whew!) I *hate* that drive... If the other NEC drives are like it too, I'll be very reluctant to touch them ever again. BTW: I, too, would dearly love to know what the other jumpers are for. I suspect #5 or #6 is termination enable, but I'm not sure. (I'd dearly love to find out that somebody has a later firmware rev for this drive that fixes the parity problem. Running with parity disabled for the last 24 hours is NOT my idea of comforting... If somebody could get me a rom image, I can burn my own.) -Peter From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 20:45:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA03571 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 20:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA03566 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 20:45:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id UAA16969 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 20:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from tao.UUCP by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA14957; Tue, 26 Dec 95 20:44:23 PST Received: by tao.thought.org (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tUGRh-0000FoC; Mon, 25 Dec 95 09:12 PST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Dec 95 09:12 PST From: kline@tao.thought.org (Gary D. Kline) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: testing.... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Mail to ``questions@freebsd.org'' may be the wrong address.... This is sent to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. Letsee.... gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 21:45:38 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA05626 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 21:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from merde.dis.org (root@merde.dis.org [206.14.78.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05621 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 21:45:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from merde.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merde.dis.org (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA01422; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 21:45:14 -0800 Message-Id: <199512270545.VAA01422@merde.dis.org> To: peter@haywire.dialix.com (Peter Wemm) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nec cdrom X-Phone: (510) 849-2230 X-Snail-address: 2560 Bancroft way #51;Berkeley CA 94704-1700 In-reply-to: Your message of 27 Dec 1995 11:41:57 +0800. <4bqfa5$a3i$1@haywire.DIALix.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1416.820043113.1@merde.dis.org> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 21:45:13 -0800 From: Pete Shipley Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) writes: > >>A friend just dumped an old NEC scsi cdrom in my lap (I didn't argue!) >>and I need a little help in figuring out the back panel option plugs. >>There's only 6 of them, and I know the first 3 are the scsi address. >>Numbers 4, 5, and 6 are marked "usually off", but right now, numer 6 is >>on, so I need to know what they're for. Any ideas? > >>This's a nice Xmas present! > >I have not been able to figure it out either, although jumper 4 seems >to be some sort of diagnostic enable. > >I've been fighting with a "Model: CDR-55JD" NEC drive for the last few >days. This drive and I have reached an understanding.. We both HATE >each other. I have one of these monsters also... (hi Paul...) I gave up. I found that my bustek will deal with it (it appears to be able to do parity on a per-device basis) although my adaptek failed big-time; also my MAC power book seems to be able to deal with it (system 7.5.1). -Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 21:59:45 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA05926 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 21:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05921 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 21:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA17773 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 23:59:41 -0600 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Tue, 26 Dec 95 23:59 CST Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:01:35 -0600 (CST) From: root To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cdrom not detected :( Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk *Sigh* of course it didn't work. Why would it? I mean I only have 2 supported cdroms... Why should it even bother to detect one of then? Oh BTW I'm rambling on about 2.1-RELEASE. I have a Sony ATAPI cdrom and an old Sound blaster cdrom, both of which I tried the appropriate boot floppy for. The auto-probe actually touched (Oh my god!!) my Sound Blaster cdrom, but when I went rejoicing to the options menu and tried to select CDROM, it said "No CDROM device has been detected! ..." Am I missing something? Did it not touch my Sound blaster cdrom and cause the access light to go on and the cd to spin?? Hrmmm. Just incase you need some help: I have a 486 with 2 IDE hard drives on one controller, another IDE controller with the drive controller disabled in order to use cua2 and 3 (com3 and 4) and a third ATAPI controller at 170H (I think thats what I put it at) My Sound Blaster is at 220H IRQ 5 DMA 1... My ATAPI drive works wonderful under linux, and I have used my Sound Blaster Cdrom in both linux and dos, but before I got the second IDE controller for cua2&3 ---- If your reply bounces, try mikepery@mcs.com. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2i mQCNAzB3NkkAAAEEALmLPNi8eMno12K55RT5yMuD5G1EQ9vSzEz+gs594m5GtMZc HKLvG+Wf4QgCuo0pinyxitbC8DHjd8b4gx4CSZPROt4RCe8m6XVJa/fiM3HhgJ/2 BB584txR4lfU4bZRSFSAWWQ8LS+1z1jsQ9IJ5WYgfJyGhLKIKOQsEjYNuO0JAAUR tCZNaWtlIFBlcnJ5IDxyb290QG1pa2VwZXJyeS5wci5tY3MubmV0Pg== =B9oB -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 26 23:51:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA08746 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 23:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from oxnardsd.org (osd.oxnardsd.org [204.147.17.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08740 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 23:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from gcpacix (gcpacix.vcnet.com) by oxnardsd.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22313; Tue, 26 Dec 95 23:51:21 PST Message-Id: <30E0FAD7.41C67EA6@cotdazr.org> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 23:50:47 -0800 From: Everett F Batey II Organization: NSWC PHD and Oxnard Sch Dist. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (X11; I; BSD/386 uname failed) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: efb@oxnardsd.org Subject: Still cant use ed1 X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/freebsd-faq5.html#5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk NO I CANT lose all this work and rebuild the disk .. NO I cant find the original before values were saved .. I have a 486DX.66, 16M, FreeBSD_2.0.5 from CDs. I have a "TrendNet" NE-2000 Clone which is found along with its ethernet address upon boot up .. I have yet to find ANY combo of values for the boot: -c choices to get a live ed1 connection to the other ethernet devs on the coax (TE2000 has 10B2 and UTP conns) .. most recently tried .. ed1 0x300 5 -1 0xd8000 ... and 0x300 10 -1 ... I get two ifconfig msgs about "no such interface" .. netstat -nr only shows the lo0 and after I start PPP .. tun0 .. Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 205.228.248.11 UGc 7 27 tun0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 76 lo0 137.24 205.228.248.11 UGc 1 14 tun0 199.122.14.49 127.0.0.1 UGHS 0 0 lo0 205.228.248.10 205.228.248.205 UH 0 6 tun0 205.228.248.205 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 Some help and ideas on troubleshooting this would be really welcome. /Ev/ -- + efb@cotdazr.org http://www.vcnet.com/efb efb@oxnardsd.org [efb15] WA6CRE + + VCEDA: http://www.gitt.gov/ SUG: http://halide.acs.uci.edu/GCSUG UserGrp + + Opinions MINE, NOT Uncles | Edu: http://www.oxnardsd.org/ innd email DNS + + 805.655.2017 Beep .. 805.982.7180 ofc many fwds .. 805.340.6471..2..5 VM + From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 01:00:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA10989 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:00:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA10983 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:00:32 -0800 (PST) From: kushidam@noa.nttdata.jp Received: from mx0.nttdata.jp (mx0.nttdata.jp [163.135.10.11]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id BAA08071 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:00:18 -0800 Received: from decgw.noa.nttdata.jp ([10.0.0.73]) by mx0.nttdata.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/CF3.3Wb7-mx0-V1.10/95013022) with SMTP id RAA08133 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:08:24 +0900 Received: from local:.oic200.noa.nttdata.jp by decgw.noa.nttdata.jp (5.65/6.4J.6-May.28.1994) id AA01133; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:15:05 +0900 Message-Id: <9512270815.AA01133@decgw.noa.nttdata.jp> Received: from local:.oic200.noa.nttdata.jp; by local:.dhq111.noa.nttdata.jp; Wed, 27 Dec 95 17:15:05 JST Date: Wed, 27 Dec 95 17:15:05 JST To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Install trouble, help me! Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! :-) I can't install FreeBSD 2.1.0 from CDROM . Please, teach me what's wrong. # My PC 's Sever PC (my assembled) OS FreeBSD 2.0.5R CDROM drive SCSI TOSHIBA LAN board NE2000 I want to install this machine , Cilent Digital Hinete Ultra CS433 (--> DHU ) LAN card 3COM EtherLink 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- * I was booted DHU from boot.flp ( I make this floppy form FreeBSD 2.1.0 CDRO M) * I was choice "Novice installration" * I tried FTP install from MY PC's CDROM drive. It's works FreeBSD 2.0.5R as FTP server. * Installer's messager ,following. DHU: Unable to transfer the bin bistribution from ftp://192.168.10.1 DHU: Do you want to try to retrive it again? ( I selected RETRY ) DHU: Fatel signal 11 caught ! I'm dead my DHU Hung up, and my FTP server can't umount cdrom. cdrom drive is Device busy. Then I was tried FTP install from another FTP server (widows NT server 3.5),b ut same result. DHU: Unable to transfer the bin bistribution from ftp://192.168.10.4 DHU: Do you want to try to retrive it again? ( I selected RETRY ) DHU: Fatel signal 11 caught ! I'm dead Please tell me what wrong ? or CDROM Media is wrong? but DHU can FTP from MY FTP server and the same FreeBSD 2.1.0R CDROM. WHY? kushida masaki E-Mail kushidam@noa.nttdata.jp From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 02:49:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA17581 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 02:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.wulaw.wustl.edu (server.wulaw.wustl.edu [128.252.251.249]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA17573 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 02:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from matt ([128.252.30.219]) by server.wulaw.wustl.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA04953 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 04:46:49 -0600 Message-ID: <30E12443.4B0D@server.wulaw.wustl.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 04:47:31 -0600 From: Matt Rosenberg Organization: Washington University School of Law X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ecu and tip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to automate a daily batch download from a BBS via modem using 2.1.0. I am using ecu BETA-3.34.56 and rz (The standard FreeBSD port)version 3.36. I created a wonderful ecu script which works if I can have someone personally logged in as root (or a sudoer) but I cannot automate it because when I put ecu (or an .sh script calling ecu) in the crontab, ecu throws a fit. [I have tried setting the TERM variable in the .sh script and sending stdout to /dev/tty both without luck.] I thought I would then try tip and converted my ecu script to perl to interface with tip. But rz does not want to work with tip even separated from the perl script (the man page warned me ahead of time "not designed for use with tip or cu"). When I try piping tip to rz, rz starts sending headers "**B010000012f4ced" and will never initiate the actual transfer. Anyone have an idea for a work around either place? Thank you! -- ============================================= Matt Rosenberg Washington University School of Law St. Louis, MO, USA matt@www.wulaw.wustl.edu http://www.wulaw.wustl.edu/~matt/ ============================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 03:26:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA19143 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 03:26:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sun4nl.NL.net (sun4nl.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA19138 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 03:25:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from khorat by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA20522 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:25:47 +0100 Subject: 3Com 3C509B supported? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:38:10 +0100 (CET) From: Paul Schenkeveld Reply-To: pauls@inter.nl.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9512271138.aa22404@khorat.psconsult.nl> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am about to replace my old 8 bit 3C503 network adapter by a new one. In the RELNOTES file I saw that 3Com 3C509 is supported but the vendor can only deliver 3C509B (note the trailing B). Since I had bad experience with another brand where the drivers have changed after adding a B to the model number I was wondering if this 3Com card should work with FreeBSD release 2.1.0. Thanks in advance. Regards, -- Paul Schenkeveld From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 04:12:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA20683 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 04:12:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA20678 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 04:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA11786 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:08:19 +0100 Message-Id: <199512271208.AA11786@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:08:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: Alex Kluev "" (Dec 23, 12:37) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Alex Kluev Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Dec 23, 12:37, Alex Kluev wrote: } Subject: } Subject: Adaptec 294x problem } Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc } Organization: Tver Universal Bank, TeleCom Division. } Summary: } Keywords: } } Hi! } } I've got a weird problem. We have two Compaq boxes (OK, it wasn't my idea to } buy those so please no flames ;). One 486DX4/100 ISA/PCI, another Pentium 90 } EISA/PCI. The Pentium one comes with integrated PCI SCSI compatible with } itself and a Netflex Ethernet, also compatible with itself. The 4/100 box } have an on-board PCI Cyrus Logic video board. } } All of these may look very exiting, but also I have two AHA-2940 PCI SCSI } host adapter and some fast SCSI disks that I want to use for FreeBSD 2.1. The } problem is as follows : } } When inserted in the 4/100 box, the 2940 is claiming that it detects the disks } and installs the bios. If the disk have a DOS partition, it will boot with } no problems, and show ~2Mb/s transfer rates. The same aplies to the P90 box } (if the on-board SCSI is switched off with ECU). But the FreeBSD 2.1'w floppy } kernel won't detect the adapter on both machines. } } } I took a look in the kernel code, but lacking PCI programming expirience, it's } a hell of a job to understand why it's not working. Sorry for the late reply! I'll try to get you going ... Please send VERBOSE boot messages (obtained by '-v' entered at the 'Boot: ' prompt), at least of the PCI probe: pcibus_setup(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000 pcibus_setup(1a): mode1res=0x00000000 (0x80000000) pcibus_setup(1b): mode1res=0x00000000 (0xff000001) pcibus_setup(2): mode 2 enable port (0x0cf8) is 0x00 pcibus_setup(2a): mode2res=0x0e (0x0e) pcibus_setup(2a): now trying mechanism 2 pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=04838086) Probing for devices on the PCI bus: configuration mode 2 allows 16 devices. chip0 rev 4 on pci0:0 CPU: 486DX2 or 486DX4, bus=33MHz, CPU->Memory posting ON Warning: NO cache parity! NO DRAM parity! Cache: 256KB writethrough, cache clocks=2-1-1-1 DRAM: page mode code fetch, read and write, memory clocks=X-1-2-1 CPU->PCI: posting ON, burst mode ON PCI->Memory: posting ON ncr0 rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci0:1 mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000e800 size=0100. mapreg[14] type=0 addr=fbfef000 size=0100. reg20: virtual=0xf2cfa000 physical=0xfbfef000 size=0x100 I need the contents (at least ALL numbers) of all lines starting with pcibus_setup() or pcibus_check. And additionally lines like those for chip0 or ncr0 above ... Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 05:23:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA23500 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 05:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from naked.kaist.ac.kr (naked.kaist.ac.kr [143.248.143.199]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA23495 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 05:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hk@localhost) by naked.kaist.ac.kr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00660; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 22:20:14 +0900 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 22:20:14 +0900 From: Hyungkyu Choi Message-Id: <199512271320.WAA00660@naked.kaist.ac.kr> To: paul@psconsult.nl CC: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3Com 3C509B supported? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi. Now, i am using 3com 509b network adapter on my PC box running Freebsd 2.1.0-R It works nicely. don't worry about that B. ;^) Happy day -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Choi, HyungKyu email:hk@naked.kaist.ac.kr KAIST CS Dept. Undergraduate 93 http://naked.kaist.ac.kr/~hk Pager:012-443-0643(Taejon) --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 06:11:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA24912 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 06:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA24907 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 06:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA14208 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:10:58 +0100 Message-Id: <199512271410.AA14208@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:10:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: Steve Rose "2.1 Release seems to corrupt my root partition" (Dec 23, 20:56) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Steve Rose Subject: Re: 2.1 Release seems to corrupt my root partition Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Dec 23, 20:56, Steve Rose wrote: } Subject: 2.1 Release seems to corrupt my root partition } This hardware runs Windows 95, NT, and Linux without a problem. The } changer works too, BTW. ;-) } } Early in the life of the NCR driver, there was a problem with interupts } being delivered to the driver during shutdown. Is there any chance this } could be similar? Just pure speculation. Any ideas? Hmm, there was a problem with the driver being programmed to support a polled mode, where no interrupts were required. We found that many people never noticed, that the driver was operating in a very limited mode, since it was much faster than an AH1542 anyway :) But the final sync failed, since timers had been stopped at that point in the shutdown process, and polling didn't work anymore. Other than this, there shouldn't be such problems with the NCR driver ... Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 08:01:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA29997 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:01:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA29991 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from strech.cyber-naut.com (strech.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.5]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA09876 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:01:24 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by strech.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA25465 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:58:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:58:42 -0700 From: Blair Schmittel Message-Id: <199512271558.IAA25465@strech.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sound card messes up net card. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a Pro-Audio Spectrum 16 and a 3Com 3C509B-Combo Ethernet Adapter. When ever I install the sound card and reboot, it disables the ethernet card. When I take out the sound card, the ethernet card works. I don't even think it probes the ethernet card device (ep0). Any suggestions? Blair From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 08:06:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA00439 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:06:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from strech.cyber-naut.com (strech.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00432 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by strech.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA25848 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:05:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:05:49 -0700 From: Blair Schmittel Message-Id: <199512271605.JAA25848@strech.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Never mind the conflicts Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It turned out to be a stupid IRQ conflict, with the ethernet card and the sound card. Blair From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 08:26:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA01487 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from iaehv.IAEhv.nl (root@iaehv.IAEhv.nl [192.87.208.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01480 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by iaehv.IAEhv.nl (8.6.12/1.63) id RAA11428; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:23:32 +0100 X-Disclaimer: iaehv.nl is a public access UNIX system and cannot be held responsible for the opinions of its individual users. Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nietzsche.bowtie.nl (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA01850; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:14:19 +0100 Message-Id: <199512271614.RAA01850@nietzsche.bowtie.nl> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: M C Wong cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: [2.1R] pager error [2] ? In-reply-to: mcw's message of Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:57:18 -0400. <199512262257.AA017818641@relay.hp.com> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:14:14 +0100 From: Marc van Kempen Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Follow up to my previous mail, here are more logs observerd : > > > lespoir:/local/home/wongm 124 > Dec 26 13:56:50 lespoir last message > > repeated 126 times > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence > > Dec 26 13:56:50 lespoir last message repeated 126 times > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vnode_pager_input: I/O read error > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vnode_pager_input: I/O read error > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 1553 failure > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 1553 failure > > Dec 26 13:56:53 lespoir /kernel: Linux-emul(1204): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) > > Dec 26 13:56:53 lespoir /kernel: Linux-emul(1204): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) > > > [4] EMT trap linux-netscape > > I am mostly concerned with the "(probably hardware) error" problem. Does anyone > have a clue ? > No, but I can offer an extra observation: When I turned my computer on this morning it was showing the same error message. I turned out that the tape broke while it was doing its nightly backup. The only way out was a reset (ctrl-alt-del at the console). This doesn't seem to be a very clear way to report this kind of error. FreeBSD 2.1.0, pentium 90Mhz, 16Mb Regards, Marc. ---------------------------------------------------- Marc van Kempen BowTie Technology Email: marc@bowtie.nl WWW & Databases tel. +31 40 2 43 20 65 fax. +31 40 2 44 21 86 http://www.bowtie.nl ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 08:35:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA01870 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:35:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01861 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA17081 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:34:12 +0100 Message-Id: <199512271634.AA17081@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:34:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: richards@mail.ctenet.com (John Richards) "Probe v2.1 not recognizing PCI Bus" (Dec 23, 12:59) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: richards@mail.ctenet.com (John Richards) Subject: Re: Probe v2.1 not recognizing PCI Bus Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Dec 23, 12:59, John Richards wrote: } Subject: Probe v2.1 not recognizing PCI Bus } Dear FreeBSD: } I have created a boot floppy, and at boot, I use the -c switch to customize. } I have a Pentium 120 PCI/ISA Award BIOS v4.50G, 16MB RAM, Adaptec 2940 scsi What type of motherboard and chip set is this ? } controler, with 3c509B nic. When I get to the config prompt, and use the ls } command, I do not have the pci device ahc0 listed. I believe I have tried PCI devices don't get listet at the config prompt. There is no way to change any of their parameters (since they are dynamically assigned by the PCI BIOS of your system), but there will be some config support in a later version (at least a disable option to make an unwanted device disappear). } all documented possibilities. The bottom line is that the kernel probe does } not probe the PCI bus properly to find the Adaptec controller so I have no } recognized hard drives. In fact, the only time I see the probe even check } for the PCI bus is when I use the -v option at boot. With -v, it checks, } but doesn't succeed. Please send all lines (or at least the numbers) starting with pcibus_setup or pcibus_check! These will help me understand, what is going wrong. Are you able to build a custom kernel ? If Yes: Please get /sys/i386/isa/pcibus.c from the FreeBSD-current sources. (I can send them in a SHAR file, if necessary.) } Using the customized boot, I have disabled all other possible conflicts, } including the 3c509 device, but still no luck. I can't get off first base, } any suggestions? Well, I guess that the probe for the PCI host bridge fails on your system. There are quite detailed rules for the behaviour of these devices, which are ignored by some major players in the PC market, though :( I can implement another wotkaround for your system, if I know its pcibus_setup probe messages ... Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 08:51:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA02613 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from txcc.net (txcc.net [205.218.183.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA02608 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 08:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from litteken@localhost) by txcc.net (8.7.2/8.6.9) id KAA08168; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:49:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:49:24 -0600 (CST) From: TAL To: Blair Schmittel cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HELP FreeBSD won't boot off of EIDE In-Reply-To: <199512270239.TAA13615@strech.cyber-naut.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Dec 1995, Blair Schmittel wrote: > Hello. > > I have a 1.6 gig WD HDD and a GSI EIDE controller. > > I installed the drive and the BIOS picked up the 1.6 gig. The GSI BIOS didn't. I installed Windows95 on the first 503 meg (It was all dos would see). And then I installed FreeBSD on the remaining 1+ gig. I rebooted the computer and it gave me this message: > > Boot: > Error: c:1024 > 1023 (BIOS limit) > ya the system bios is limited to 1024 cilenders 500 megs is as big as it goes with out a new bios, a bios on your eide card to handle it, or an overlay file.. i am not sure how it would work for dos and bsd but that is what is going on.. ig the GSI card has a built on bios i would RTFM on it and set it up.. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 09:32:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA04506 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii2.iii.net (root@iii2.iii.net [199.232.40.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA04499 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:32:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mud@localhost) by iii2.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id MAA03859; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:32:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:32:27 -0500 (EST) From: "David E. Berthiaume Jr." To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HELP!!! THIS IS AN EMERGENCY Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I elect not to answer you question because: > > A) it is not AN EMERGENCY > B) you .sig is larger then the text/content of the letter You make a program that erases my hd and you won't help??? I had to reinstall DOS cause your boot.flp erased my hd From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 09:57:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA05810 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:57:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from vp.netgate.net (root@vp.netgate.net [204.145.147.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05804 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:57:02 -0800 (PST) From: htmlpro@ftp.netgate.net Received: from dc2.netgate.net (dc2.netgate.net [204.145.147.22]) by vp.netgate.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA26454 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:13:01 -0800 Message-Id: <199512271813.KAA26454@vp.netgate.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 09:57:40 +0000 Subject: A few Questions (PS/2 mice, INETD) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Just a few questions: 1) How do I recompile my default kernel? a) How do I reconfigure my mouse driver? 2) Also...How do I setup INETD to dial-up a my ISP Provider? a) How do I configure INET and INETD Nicholas Blasgen PS: Please reply via e-mail (htmlpro@htmlpro.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 10:11:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA06252 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:11:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from winky.reno.nv.us (winky.reno.nv.us [140.174.194.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06247 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winky.reno.nv.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA05414 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:11:02 -0800 Message-Id: <199512271811.KAA05414@winky.reno.nv.us> X-Authentication-Warning: winky.reno.nv.us: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Two sound cards and kernel config Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:11:01 -0800 From: Eric Blood Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've got both a Soundblaster Pro and a Gravis Ultrasound. What I wanted to know was how I configured the kernel and created the respective devices. Thanks. Eric Blood eblood@cs.unr.edu, http://www.cs.unr.edu/~eblood From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 10:38:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA07307 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:38:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ecc.nyseg.com (ecc.nyseg.com [199.98.200.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA07295 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fallot@localhost) by ecc.nyseg.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA00917 for questions@freefall.freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:39:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:39:38 -0500 From: Ken Fallot Message-Id: <199512271839.NAA00917@ecc.nyseg.com> To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: dial-up , PPP, SLIP or other REMOTE X Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk help I'm running FreeBSD 2.0.5 on P90 with perm. connection to internet at work. I would like to provide myself with dial in capabilities and run things like Mosaic, Netscape and other X applications from home. (also FreeBsd) I've read some about PPP and SLIP and I'm still a bit confused. If anyone can help answer some of my questions I would be greatfull. - I only have one IP from my ISP can i still run ppp or slip? - Is there any "REMOTE X" type applicatione i can use on dial-up? - Is there any way i can do one of the above from a DOS client? ( please don't flame me , some co-workers don't have UNIX ) I have already set up /dev/ttyd0 with USRobitics 14.4 and can use standard terminal emulator from home. I've read the FreeBSD handbook sections on PPP and SLIP , the man pages don't seem to help. thanks in advance Ken Fallot fallot@ecc.nyseg.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 10:51:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA08357 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii2.iii.net (root@iii2.iii.net [199.232.40.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08335 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 10:51:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mud@localhost) by iii2.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id NAA05735; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:51:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:51:10 -0500 (EST) From: "David E. Berthiaume Jr." To: Daniel Leeds cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HELP!!! THIS IS AN EMERGENCY In-Reply-To: <199512271817.NAA20041@misery.bssc.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > You make a program that erases my hd and you won't help??? > > I had to reinstall DOS cause your boot.flp erased my hd > Poor fucking baby. Read the install notes next time jackass. If you had read my first letter you would have seen that I have now the notes say that if you have problems then write to questions@FreeBSd.org. so I did. and you all act like assholes well I have been useing freebsd for years forget me useing it anymore as a matter of fact I used to recomend it to my friends well FUCKING FORGET THAT TOO as a matter fact i am going to take the cd and shove it...nevermind that just forget about me or my clients useing freebsd anymore I am going to give them linux from now on...go to hell. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 11:01:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA08935 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08922 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA17729; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:02:25 +0100 Message-Id: <199512271902.UAA17729@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Two sound cards and kernel config To: eblood@winky.reno.nv.us (Eric Blood) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:02:25 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512271811.KAA05414@winky.reno.nv.us> from "Eric Blood" at Dec 27, 95 10:11:01 am From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > I've got both a Soundblaster Pro and a Gravis Ultrasound. What I wanted > to know was how I configured the kernel and created the respective > devices. Thanks. /sys/i386/conf/LINT contains sample entries. Take a GENERIC kernel for example, modify it to contain your snd device entries. type config NEWKERNEL cd /sys/compile/NEWKERNEL make depend install > > Eric Blood > eblood@cs.unr.edu, http://www.cs.unr.edu/~eblood > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 11:15:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA09731 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:15:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from venere.inet.it (venere.inet.it [194.20.8.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09725 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:15:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uurcm@localhost) by venere.inet.it (8.6.10/8.6.10) id UAA65250 for freebsd.org!freebsd-questions; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:15:17 +0100 Received: by hp-dyno.smd (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0tV0tI-000JDuC; Wed, 27 Dec 95 19:47 MET Received: from verza.lpds.sublink.org (verza.lpds.sublink.org [192.9.200.101]) by radikkio.lpds.sublink.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA11753 for <@mailhost:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 16:25:10 +0100 Message-ID: <9512261625.AA08442@verza.lpds.sublink.org> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 95 16:25 MET From: wcp@verza.lpds.sublink.org (Walter C. Pelissero) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wcp by verza.lpds.sublink.org; Tue, 26 Dec 95 16:25 MET Subject: Hostess comm adapter Reply-To: wcp@radikkio.lpds.sublink.org Content-Type: text Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v3.18.5. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I recently bought a Hostess compatible comm adapter and I would like to test it under FreeBSD 2.0 (I still have to upgrade, sorry). I tried this in my kernel configuration file: options "COM_MULTIPORT" device sio4 at isa? port 0x280 tty flags 0x405 device sio5 at isa? port 0x288 tty flags 0x405 device sio6 at isa? port 0x290 tty flags 0x405 device sio7 at isa? port 0x298 tty flags 0x405 irq 9 vector siointr but when I try to receive something from a modem attached to sio4 I get errors like this: Dec 25 19:14:39 radikkio kernel: sio4: 1 more silo overflow (total 1) I have to say that the board is not detected correctly: Dec 25 19:07:11 radikkio kernel: sio4 at 0x280-0x287 flags 0x405 on isa Dec 25 19:07:11 radikkio kernel: sio4: type 16450 (multiport master) Dec 25 19:07:11 radikkio kernel: sio5 at 0x288-0x28f flags 0x405 on isa Dec 25 19:07:11 radikkio kernel: sio5: type 16450 (multiport) Dec 25 19:07:11 radikkio kernel: sio6 at 0x290-0x297 flags 0x405 on isa Dec 25 19:07:11 radikkio kernel: sio6: type 16450 (multiport) Dec 25 19:07:11 radikkio kernel: sio7 at 0x298-0x29f irq 9 flags 0x405 on isa Dec 25 19:07:12 radikkio kernel: sio7: type 16450 (multiport) because the booklet coming with the board says it should emulate 8250s (not 16450). It seems a problem with interrupts since sending characters works fine. Does this board is supported by FreeBSD? If yes, what should I do? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 11:22:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA10133 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:22:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-17.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA10116 Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:22:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00232; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:25:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:25:50 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: FreeBSD Questions cc: FreeBSD Chat Subject: Will an additional 4 MB help? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Well, looks like I got some Xmas money this year... not a lot, but still some. And so I decided to apply it toward my lifelong quest: to make my computer the mightiest it can be. My computer, FYI, is an 486DX2/66 with 8 MB of RAM... 1.0 GB FAST SCSI-2 disk, plus a 150 MB IDE that I use as auxiliary filesystem space. I've narrowed down my choices to one of two (I can only afford one): 2 backup cartridges, or an additional 4 MB of memory. I've been doing a lot more stuff in X lately, and find that it's quite slow, especially when I'm trying to do a lot of stuff. I guess, then, what my question would be is: would an additional 4 MB of memory help? Can anyone give me any sort of figures (I don't care if it's "real" benchmarks, etc. or "gut feeling") on whether 12 MB would run significantly faster vs. 8 MB. I don't do a LOT with my machine -- it's only a single-user machine, although I let friends log in over the modem every now and then. I do Web stuff, though, both browsing and Web publishing (I have a CERN Httpd running on my FreeBSD box, which I use to assemble and preview my pages in "real life" scenarios). OF course, I use Netscape (the BSDI version). As an aside, how "much" would a 12 MB configuration help out in Windows 95, vs. an 8 MB configuration? My system has 4 72-pin SIMM slots, which right now contain 2 4MB SIMMs, for a total of 8 MB. So if I continue adding 4 MB SIMMs, I can have a max. of 16 MB of memory. If I want to go any higher, I'd have to sell all my SIMMs and get bigger individual modules -- like getting 8 MB modules instead of 4 MB's, or 16 MB modules (do they even have those yet?). If I were able to afford this, then I might as well break down and upgrade everything, including the CPU (see below). So this probably won't happen. 16 is probably the max. memory for me with this system. I don't have a lot of cash, nor do I make a lot of cash -- so I can't just run out and get a new Pentium or whatnot. Although that's eventually what I want to do, in which case I'd have to upgrade just about everything else in my system, INCLUDING memory (I'd need 60ns or faster memory?, and probably this newfangled EDO memory or whatnot that I've been hearing about). Obviously, I'm not expecting to do this for a LONG, LONG time. So, I should probably get a 4 MB SIMM stick now, it'll probably help some (maybe even dramatically). Then I can always add another 4 MB later, and when the big jackpot hits, go for the Pentium. Right? Please help a confused soul out... and apologies if this is somewhat off-topic. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 11:42:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA11687 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:42:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11668 Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA06709; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:42:32 -0800 To: Donald Burr cc: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: Will an additional 4 MB help? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:25:50 PST." Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:42:32 -0800 Message-ID: <6707.820093352@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The memory will give you the best bang-for-buck. 8MB vs 12MB is definitely noticable! Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 11:43:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA11749 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:43:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11744 Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA09964; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:43:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA00127; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:43:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512271943.LAA00127@corbin.Root.COM> To: Donald Burr cc: FreeBSD Questions , FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: Will an additional 4 MB help? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 27 Dec 95 11:25:50 PST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 11:43:53 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I've been doing a lot more stuff in X lately, and find that it's quite >slow, especially when I'm trying to do a lot of stuff. I guess, then, >what my question would be is: would an additional 4 MB of memory help? > >Can anyone give me any sort of figures (I don't care if it's "real" >benchmarks, etc. or "gut feeling") on whether 12 MB would run >significantly faster vs. 8 MB. I don't do a LOT with my machine -- it's It'll make many things about 50-100% faster. >all my SIMMs and get bigger individual modules -- like getting 8 MB >modules instead of 4 MB's, or 16 MB modules (do they even have those >yet?). If I were able to afford this, then I might as well break down They've been making 64MB modules for more than a year. I have 4 of those here (in the soon-to-be new wcarchive). >So, I should probably get a 4 MB SIMM stick now, it'll probably help some >(maybe even dramatically). Then I can always add another 4 MB later, and >when the big jackpot hits, go for the Pentium. Right? Right. :-) -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 12:04:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA12818 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from tfd.com (tfd.com [206.205.61.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12813 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:04:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sneezy.tfd.com by tfd.com with SMTP id AA15186 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Wed, 27 Dec 95 15:03:45 -0500 Received: by sneezy id AA06907 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Wed, 27 Dec 95 15:07:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 95 15:07:26 -0500 From: Kent Hauser Message-Id: <9512272007.AA06907@sneezy> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Are any PCMCIA modem cards supported? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ...on freebsd-2.0? Is there support for slip over these cards? Thanks. kent From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 12:10:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA13269 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from dub-img-7.compuserve.com (dub-img-7.compuserve.com [198.4.9.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13263 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by dub-img-7.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id PAA13749; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:09:35 -0500 Date: 27 Dec 95 15:08:45 EST From: Dominic Russell <102556.543@compuserve.com> To: "Help!" Subject: Problems with installation of FreeBSD Message-ID: <951227200844_102556.543_HHV62-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi! First, please excuse my very bad english writing. But don't worry, it's even worst when I speak it. And you won't have to hear it, lucky you! I'll do my best so you can understand anyhow. I've tried to install FreeBSD on my computer, but the installation program always Freeze. I boot from the boot disk (from boot.flp), then I proceed with the installation. The program freeze when I reach the creation of the root file system (labelling?). I've execute the installation with the DEBUG parameter set to on. The debug screen always show "Executing: newfs ..." or something like that as last comment. The program seems to have problems accessing my hard disk, maybe to access the virtual memory, when executing the newfs utility. I did try a lots of things, even change my hdd controler, but nothing worked. After I realised I was knowing all the installation program by heart and after reading all what's readable about FreeBSD's installation files and Q & As, I've decided to call for information. Here is a short description of my computer: Intel 486/33MHz CPU Mother Board SIS with VLB bus AMI BIOS (no support for LBA mode) 128KB chache 4MB of memory 540MB Quantum hard disk (master) 100MB Teac hard disk (slave) EIDE controler Is it possible that my computer don't have enough memory to run FreeBSD? Is my hard disk incompatible? If you find anything, please let me know. Thanks a hundred times. Stef. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 12:30:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA14860 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [199.166.238.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14853 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:30:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA05337; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:29:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:29:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: X mail reader recommendations.... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I'm looking for a nice X based mail reader that I can use that will allow me to read a procmail created folder...and not xmh :) Thanks... Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting scrappy@hub.org | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, soon to be: | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://hub.org | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 12:46:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA15871 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15866 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhub ([148.156.21.6]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03883 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:46:17 -0700 (MST) Received: by westhub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.950111) Message-Id: Date: 27 Dec 1995 13:43:31 -0700 From: "Owen Newnan" Subject: HTML & ATAPI continued To: "questions about FreeBSD" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 GM Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: Time:10:26 PM OFFICE MEMO HTML & ATAPI continued Date:12/26/95 I've figured out work-arounds on the FAQs, although I'd still like to know if 2.1 ships with an HTML client pre-installed. What I need to figure out is, can my ATAPI drive be made to work with FreeBSD as it does with DOS, or should I give up? If not, how can I install packages given I am not internet attached with FreeBSD and stagingto DOS garbles the filenames? Recap and update: I installed 2.1 off CD by way of DOS. I attempted the two CD install options without avail. I made the kernel with controller wdc1, options ATAPI and device wcd0, all verbatim per LINT. The kernel comes up probing wdc1 successfully but with no mention of wcd0. There is a wcd0c in /dev. If I insert a CD and attempt to mount -t cd9660 /dev/wcd0c /mnt it tells me that device is not configured. If I MAKEDEV wcd0 with CD inserted the command completes without comment, but no node of that name results. I find no guidance from apropos or FAQ on debugging ATAPI. A search on the web reveals more ATAPI problems than solutions. If you have guidance or can direct me to documentation on this, that would be most appreciated! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 12:47:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA15911 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:47:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15902 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:46:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00865; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:19:34 GMT Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:19:33 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Steve Ames cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newbie XFree86 install question In-Reply-To: <199512250251.CAA15359@cioeserv.cioe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 25 Dec 1995, Steve Ames wrote: > My big question comes in... what next? Nothing amazing seems to happen. > Screen flickers briefly when xdm is called. Well, it should switch into graphics mode and give you a screen with a login dialogue box in the middle... did you write a XF86Config script to set it up for your video card and monitor? Are you running xdm as root? James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 12:48:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA16043 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA16036 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00888; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:33:22 GMT Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 01:33:22 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: root cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATAPI cdrom stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 25 Dec 1995, root wrote: BTW, sending mail when you're logged in as "God" is probably not a good idea. It's better to create a "normal" account and use the "su" command if you need to do any admin work as root. > I just recieved FreeBSD 2.1 as a gift, and plan to install it. Has anyone > tried out the ATAPI cdrom install? I have a Sony quad speed and it works > fine with the Linux ATAPI support. Anyone have any tips before I begin? > What I'm trying to avoid is having to reinstall FreeBSD 7 times like I had > to do with linux because of hardware problems :) The ATAPI CD-ROM support is in alpha, so you may well find you have the same problems with it as you did with Linux. Or then again you may not. You'll never know until you try. 8-) If the worst comes to the worst, you can always copy the installation files onto the hard disk under DOS and then install off the DOS partition (and convert the DOS partition to FreeBSD later if you wish!) Merry Xmas James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 12:57:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA16354 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:57:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii1.iii.net (root@iii1.iii.net [199.232.40.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA16346 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii1.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id PAA24777 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:57:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:57:21 -0500 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199512272057.PAA24777@iii1.iii.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Ethernet card for ISA-based FreeBSD Machine Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a FreeBSD machine that will be routing IP packets from the internet to a LAN of Macs and Windows '95 based machines. What network card would you recommend? Thanks in advance, -Justin Seger- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 13:10:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA17216 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from icefog.polarnet.com (root@icefog.polarnet.com [204.119.24.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA17202 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from icefog.polarnet.com (corellg@icefog.polarnet.com [204.119.24.13]) by icefog.polarnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA08781 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:23:47 -0900 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 12:23:46 -0900 (AKST) From: "Gary B. Corell" To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: ethernet cards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of Ansel Communications, makers or suppliers of ethernet cards? I have 2 I need checked out/repaired or something. They are ne2000 types software programmable. Help! Thanks in advance --- Gary B. Corell Powered by FreeBSD corellg@imagi.net Bato Bato sa langit http://www.imagi.net/~corellg/ ang tamaay huag kang magagalit From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 13:17:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA17632 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii1.iii.net (root@iii1.iii.net [199.232.40.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA17626 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:17:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii1.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id QAA25912 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:16:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:16:41 -0500 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199512272116.QAA25912@iii1.iii.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Routing trouble Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a SLIP connection (sl0), and an ethernet connection (ed0) and am trying to route packets between the two. I am currently running FreeBSD 2.1.0. I can ping machines on either connection from my FreeBSD machine and can ping the sl0 device (199.232.44.242) from the internet, and I can ping both ed0 (199.232.47.49) and sl0 (199.232.44.242) from a windows '95 (199.232.47.51). I was assigned the following from my intenet provider: SLIP Account IP Address: 199.232.44.242 Subnet: 199.232.47.48 Netmask: 255.255.255.240 Broadcast: 199.232.47.63 Addresses: 199.232.47.49-199.232.47.62 Here's the output of 'ifconfig ed0' ed0: flags=8863 mtu 1500 inet 199.232.47.49 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 199.232.47.63 ether 00:40:33:30:b1:cd and 'ifconfig sl0' sl0: flags=d011 mtu 552 inet 199.232.44.242 --> 199.232.46.33 netmask 0xffffff00 I would REALLY appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks in advance, -Justin Seger- BTW-Can anyone recommend a good book on IP routing, etc...? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 13:21:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA18061 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:21:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from purcell.jlc.net (root@purcell.jlc.net [199.201.159.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18047 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jason@localhost) by purcell.jlc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA01397 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:30:50 -0500 From: "Jason T. Nelson" Message-Id: <199512272130.QAA01397@purcell.jlc.net> Subject: mirroring a drive To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:30:49 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk We have a machine that it will be very important for it to be operational ALL the time (or as close as possible); so we bought two hard drives for it and we want to have the two drives mirror images of each other (once a day is good enough). Does anybody know of an easy way of doing this without resorting to RAID? Yes, I'm cheap :) -- Jason T. Nelson From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 13:21:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA18063 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.ios.com (root@haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18049 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from michles@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA29047; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:13:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: Emil Mikhles To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 2.0 Installation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am installing FreeBSD, through Cd-ROM, on a SCSI, PCI, system, and having major problems, and can't find what the problem is. it boots from the floppy, and then Boot appears on my screen, and 15 seconds later, I see verticle lines, flashing on the screen, and then the screen goes blank. I will appreciate any help, especially voice help, at my expense. (As long as the phone call is in the US). Thank You From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 13:31:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA18576 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from quip.eecs.umich.edu (dmuntz@quip.eecs.umich.edu [141.212.99.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18567 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dmuntz@localhost) by quip.eecs.umich.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2) id QAA19424 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:30:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:30:57 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Muntz Message-Id: <199512272130.QAA19424@quip.eecs.umich.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: pcmcia modem support in 2.1? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there pcmcia modem support in 2.1? I was running 2.0 with a couple different versions of pcmcia modem support (unofficial), but I'd like to get my 2.1 system working w/o porting the old code. There's a pcic.c file (not the ethernet one in i386/isa... the other one (in lkm?)) that looks similar to some of the code I was using with 2.0, but I can't find any info on using it. Pointers? Thanks, -Dan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 13:34:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA18804 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp-cv.cv.hp.com (hp-cv.cv.hp.com [15.255.72.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18794 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:34:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp-pcd.cv.hp.com by hp-cv.cv.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+IOS 3.22+CV 1.0ext) id AA235050064; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:34:25 -0800 Received: from hpcvusd.cv.hp.com ([15.0.209.18]) by hp-pcd.cv.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+IOS 3.22+OM+CV 1.0) id AA253489913; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:31:53 -0800 Received: from localhost by hpcvusd.cv.hp.com with SMTP (16.8/15.5+IOS 3.22[SMTP-rly]+CV 1.0leaf) id AA21216; Wed, 27 Dec 95 13:30:38 -0800 Message-Id: <9512272130.AA21216@hpcvusd.cv.hp.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: crosswjo@hp-pcd.cv.hp.com Subject: TEST -- DO NOT READ Date: Wed, 27 Dec 95 13:30:29 -0800 From: John Crosswhite Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This is just a test... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Crosswhite : E-Mail: crosswjo@cv.hp.com System Administrator : Office: 541-715-4170 Hewlett Packard : Corvallis, OR : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 14:16:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA21858 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA21833 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:16:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id OAA09960 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA13407; Wed, 27 Dec 95 14:14:30 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9512272214.AA13407@tera.com> Subject: NAS To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:14:44 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A few things remain to get set up on this FBSD 2.0.5. Like figuring out uucp to receive mail and news. And howto change the XConfig file to work at 1280x1024. But these are things I'll have to mess with myself. (But if anyone is using the TS4000 driver and has an XConfig working at 1280x1024, _please_ send it!!) Last night I got serious with the nas-1.2 suite. After a few hours of minor hacking, I got everything built and installed correctly. (Maybe!) When I try something like ``audemo'' I get an error about not being about to connect to the server. In my .cshrc is: setenv AUDIOSERVER localhost:0 which is about as generic as I can get. Anybody out there run into this before and resolved the problem? --It looks like a networking problem, and that is a field that I'm just beginning to learn. BTW, the main reason I got a soundboard was so that I'd have something strictly for fun.... So far, not much luck. If anybody can clue me in, I'd be much obliged. gary kline@<> From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 14:37:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA22972 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA22967 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:37:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00225; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:37:37 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:37:35 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: htmlpro@htmlpro.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A few Questions (PS/2 mice, INETD) In-Reply-To: <199512271813.KAA26454@vp.netgate.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Dec 1995 htmlpro@ftp.netgate.net wrote: Quick and dirty here... > 1) How do I recompile my default kernel? > a) How do I reconfigure my mouse driver? See the FreeBSD Handbook, section 5, "Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel". I assume you have Web access...:-) > 2) Also...How do I setup INETD to dial-up a my ISP Provider? > a) How do I configure INET and INETD You don't use inetd for dialup. You would use something like `slattach' for SLIP or `ppp' for PPP. See the respective man pages for more information. IMHO, ppp (aka ijppp aka User Mode PPP) is a better way of doing things if your ISP provides PPP service. > PS: Please reply via e-mail (htmlpro@htmlpro.com) Done. If you have some more detailed questions about the above please let us know. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 14:45:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA23264 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA23256 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00235; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:43:21 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:43:19 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ken Fallot cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: dial-up , PPP, SLIP or other REMOTE X In-Reply-To: <199512271839.NAA00917@ecc.nyseg.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Ken Fallot wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 2.0.5 on P90 with perm. connection to internet at work. Kewl :-) > I would like to provide myself with dial in capabilities and run > things like Mosaic, Netscape and other X applications from home. (also > FreeBsd) I've read some about PPP and SLIP and I'm still a bit confused. > If anyone can help answer some of my questions I would be greatfull. Sure... > - I only have one IP from my ISP can i still run ppp or slip? Sure can, no problem. > - Is there any "REMOTE X" type applicatione i can use on dial-up? You can use whatever you want, once you have the PPP or SLIP connection established. You can point an X server on your home box to your work box and use the work box's xdm. > - Is there any way i can do one of the above from a DOS client? > ( please don't flame me , some co-workers don't have UNIX ) X on DOS is not pretty. There is a server, 'XAppeal', which is commercial. There is a 30 day demo that a friend of mine has that I could forward along. > I have already set up /dev/ttyd0 with USRobitics 14.4 and > can use standard terminal emulator from home. I've read the FreeBSD > handbook sections on PPP and SLIP , the man pages don't seem to help. Hm. Anything specific you're having problems with in relation to PPP/SLIP? It's a big topic. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 14:46:52 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA23326 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23315 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 14:46:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id JAA14248 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:45:32 +1100 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:45:29 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: Ken Fallot cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: dial-up , PPP, SLIP or other REMOTE X In-Reply-To: <199512271839.NAA00917@ecc.nyseg.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Ken Fallot wrote: > help > I'm running FreeBSD 2.0.5 on P90 with perm. connection to internet at work. > > I would like to provide myself with dial in capabilities and run > things like Mosaic, Netscape and other X applications from home. (also > FreeBsd) I've read some about PPP and SLIP and I'm still a bit confused. > If anyone can help answer some of my questions I would be greatfull. > > - I only have one IP from my ISP can i still run ppp or slip? No, you will not be able to communicate with the greater internet unless you get a routable account from your ISP. (You will also need to get yourself allocated a block of addresses either from your ISP or nic) > - Is there any "REMOTE X" type applicatione i can use on dial-up? Sure are, a couple of good free/shareware ones are Xwin, and Xwin32, you can also get some pretty good stuff from chamelion, but it costs $$$. Of course you can also use another UNIX box running Xwindows. > - Is there any way i can do one of the above from a DOS client? If you are running windows. > ( please don't flame me , some co-workers don't have UNIX ) > > I have already set up /dev/ttyd0 with USRobitics 14.4 and > can use standard terminal emulator from home. I've read the FreeBSD > handbook sections on PPP and SLIP , the man pages don't seem to help. > > thanks in advance > Ken Fallot fallot@ecc.nyseg.com > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 15:04:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA24001 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:04:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23990 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA266655455; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:04:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199512272304.AA266655455@relay.hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA281765437; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:03:57 +1100 From: M C Wong Subject: Re: [2.1R] pager error [2] ? To: marc@bowtie.nl (Marc van Kempen) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 95 10:03:56 EDT Cc: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com, freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512271614.RAA01850@nietzsche.bowtie.nl>; from "Marc van Kempen" at Dec 27, 95 5:14 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Follow up to my previous mail, here are more logs observerd : > > > > > lespoir:/local/home/wongm 124 > Dec 26 13:56:50 lespoir last message > > > repeated 126 times > > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence > > > Dec 26 13:56:50 lespoir last message repeated 126 times > > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence > > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vnode_pager_input: I/O read error > > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vnode_pager_input: I/O read error > > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 1553 failure > > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 1553 failure > > > Dec 26 13:56:53 lespoir /kernel: Linux-emul(1204): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) > > > Dec 26 13:56:53 lespoir /kernel: Linux-emul(1204): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) > > > > > [4] EMT trap linux-netscape > > > > I am mostly concerned with the "(probably hardware) error" problem. Does anyone > > have a clue ? > > > No, but I can offer an extra observation: When I turned my computer on > this morning it was showing the same error message. I turned out that > the tape broke while it was doing its nightly backup. > The only way out was a reset (ctrl-alt-del at the console). This doesn't > seem to be a very clear way to report this kind of error. > FreeBSD 2.1.0, pentium 90Mhz, 16Mb > Regards, > Marc. Sorry I missed out my system config, here are some info: Dec 17 12:54:04 lespoir /kernel: aha0 at 0x330-0x333 irq 11 drq 5 on isa Dec 17 12:54:04 lespoir /kernel: (aha0:0:0): "MICROP 2217-15MZ1001905 HQ30" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 Dec 17 12:54:04 lespoir /kernel: sd0(aha0:0:0): Direct-Access 1685MB (3450902 512 byte sectors) Dec 17 12:54:04 lespoir /kernel: sd0(aha0:0:0): with 2372 cyls, 15 heads, and an average 96 sectors/track Dec 17 12:54:04 lespoir /kernel: (aha0:1:0): "MEDIAVIS CDR-H93MV . 1.31" type 5 removable SCSI 2 Dec 17 12:54:04 lespoir /kernel: cd0(aha0:1:0): CD-ROM Dec 17 12:54:04 lespoir /kernel: cd0(aha0:1:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present Dec 17 12:54:04 lespoir /kernel: can't get the size Dec 17 12:54:04 lespoir /kernel: Dec 17 12:54:04 lespoir /kernel: (aha0:2:0): "HP HP35480A 1009" type 1 removable SCSI 2 Dec 17 12:54:04 lespoir /kernel: st0(aha0:2:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, drive empty > ---------------------------------------------------- > Marc van Kempen BowTie Technology > Email: marc@bowtie.nl WWW & Databases > tel. +31 40 2 43 20 65 > fax. +31 40 2 44 21 86 http://www.bowtie.nl > ---------------------------------------------------- - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 9210 5568 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 9210 5550 P.O. Box 221, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMOHQokmThh0X7Um5AQH/nwP/ZmsKB7AD9+a+1YkZhYnzWJNAJlJ3e9xn ABmc+QCG/gRGJ977dDU6VEPUsabmmz4TosWoXH+TjWE2kiwaMgRdILuuON8xcyLD qqqNK72VwbTeZxYEBGrVLf26F958BCRy2o8PT9szB0JGQUxUxBYvcCE7WU7MESdQ qpJa4VnQ2d8= =SLGa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 15:08:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA24219 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24208 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00442; Wed, 27 Dec 95 17:16:09 CST Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 27 Dec 95 17:31:31 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 27 Dec 95 17:31:13 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:31:07 +600 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: HTML & ATAPI continued Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thus spake "Owen Newnan" (27 Dec 1995 13:43:31): | Subject: Time:10:26 PM | OFFICE MEMO HTML & ATAPI continued Date:12/26/95 | | I've figured out work-arounds on the FAQs, although I'd still like to know if | 2.1 ships with an HTML client pre-installed. AKAIK, no; get the lynx package (text-based) and use pkg_add (the rest you probably know). The handbook is in /usr/share/doc/handbook/ if my poor brain is still functioning... hth, larry From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 15:08:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA24227 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:08:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii2.iii.net (root@iii2.iii.net [199.232.40.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24210 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mud@localhost) by iii2.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id SAA14088; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:08:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:08:13 -0500 (EST) From: "David E. Berthiaume Jr." To: John Goerzen cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HELP!!! THIS IS AN EMERGENCY In-Reply-To: <199512271933.NAA00512@complete.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I elect not to answer you question because: > > > > > > A) it is not AN EMERGENCY > > > B) you .sig is larger then the text/content of the letter > > You make a program that erases my hd and you won't help??? > > I had to reinstall DOS cause your boot.flp erased my hd > > Can you spell PARTITION? > > I assume that's what happened... I did not even get to the menu! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 15:14:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA24532 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii2.iii.net (root@iii2.iii.net [199.232.40.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24527 Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mud@localhost) by iii2.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id SAA14224; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:13:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:13:42 -0500 (EST) From: "David E. Berthiaume Jr." To: David Greenman cc: core@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP!!! THIS IS AN EMERGENCY In-Reply-To: <199512271920.LAA04391@corbin.Root.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >> > You make a program that erases my hd and you won't help??? > >> > I had to reinstall DOS cause your boot.flp erased my hd > >> Poor fucking baby. Read the install notes next time jackass. > >If you had read my first letter you would have seen that I have > >now the notes say that if you have problems then write to > >questions@FreeBSd.org. so I did. and you all act like assholes well I > >have been useing freebsd for years > >forget me useing it anymore > >as a matter of fact I used to recomend it to my friends well FUCKING > >FORGET THAT TOO > >as a matter fact i am going to take the cd and shove it...nevermind that > >just forget about me or my clients useing freebsd anymore I am going to > >give them linux from now on...go to hell. > > Umm, this kind of language isn't appropriate in our mailing lists. Whether > or not you or your friends use FreeBSD is of course your own decision, but I > hope that you don't think that comments from some random subscriber on our > mailing lists has anything to do with the FreeBSD project or it's > contributors. Installation of an operating system is a difficult thing to do > and it's often not intuitive how to do it correctly. When the OS has to co- > reside with another one, it's vitally important that backups be made first > as it is highly likely that the first attempt or three at installation will > fail. > Install bugs should be addressed to bugs@freebsd.org. Installation related > questions should be politely addressed to questions@freebsd.org. > Hope next year is better for you. > > -DG > Sorry about that but I was not told this was a mailing list. I read that if I have questions or problems to email this address so I did and 2 ppl answreed that I am a jerk and should have read the docs...well I did and they do not say what to do if the boot floppie will not boot!!! like I said in my first letter freebsd 2.0.5 works perfectly fine why don't 2.1.0??? if you want I can forward the email I received from this list. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 15:31:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA25421 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from oddis.cyber-naut.com (oddis.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25416 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 15:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by oddis.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA00467 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:23:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:23:43 -0700 From: System Administrator Message-Id: <199512272323.QAA00467@oddis.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: X won't run, why? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I just got done installing X-windows on my new computer, but it won't run. I start X by typing "xinit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc" It starts to load, then it gives me this message: "XF86OpenConsole /dev/kbd (Device not configured)" I looked in /dev but there wasn't a /dev/kbd, so I created one using mknod. I created it with the same settings as on a friend of mine. I tried it again, but it still won't load. Blair From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 16:13:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA27089 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from peedub.gj.org (ns035.munich.netsurf.de [194.64.166.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27083 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:13:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.gj.org (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA01193; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 01:08:42 GMT Message-Id: <199512280108.BAA01193@peedub.gj.org> X-Authentication-Warning: peedub.gj.org: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: M C Wong Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [2.1R] pager error [2] ? Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:03:56 EDT." <199512272304.AA266655455@relay.hp.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 01:08:41 +0000 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk M C Wong writes: > >> > Follow up to my previous mail, here are more logs observerd : >> > >> > > lespoir:/local/home/wongm 124 > Dec 26 13:56:50 lespoir last message >> > > repeated 126 times >> > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence >> > > Dec 26 13:56:50 lespoir last message repeated 126 times >> > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence >> > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vnode_pager_input: I/O read error >> > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vnode_pager_input: I/O read error >> > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vm_fault: pager input (probably hardwar >e) error, PID 1553 failure >> > > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vm_fault: pager input (probably hardwar >e) error, PID 1553 failure >> > > Dec 26 13:56:53 lespoir /kernel: Linux-emul(1204): syslog() not supporte >d (BSD sigreturn) >> > > Dec 26 13:56:53 lespoir /kernel: Linux-emul(1204): syslog() not supporte >d (BSD sigreturn) >> > >> > > [4] EMT trap linux-netscape >> > >> > I am mostly concerned with the "(probably hardware) error" problem. Does a >nyone >> > have a clue ? >> > this looks sort of like a problem I starting seeing when I switched to a P-100. Turns out that my SCSI cable was just a little too long. This only manifested itself when there was very heavy SCSI traffic (make world). The faster processor brought this to light, I never saw it with a 486DX2-66. Check out your cables. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - Gary.Jennejohn@munich.netsurf.de Work - gjennejohn@frt.dec.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 16:39:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA27993 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:39:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from dub-img-4.compuserve.com (dub-img-4.compuserve.com [198.4.9.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27984 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by dub-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id TAA09182; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:38:35 -0500 Date: 27 Dec 95 19:36:49 EST From: To: Subject: PCI bus on a Compaq Prolinea466 Message-ID: <951228003648_702420.204300_BHD34-61@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ---------------------------- Forwarded with Changes --------------------------- From: Chris Brent at ORIXNRDPO1 Date: 12/18/95 6:43PM To: questions@freebsd.org at CSERVE Subject: PCI bus on a Compaq Prolinea466 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: PCI bus on a Compaq Prolinea466 Author: Chris Brent at ORIXNRDPO1 Date: 18/12/95 6:43 PM Hi, I'm trying to install FreedBSD 2.0.5 R2 from CD onto a Compaq Prolinea 466. I managed to make a boot floppy and tried to boot it. Once the kernel got to probing the pci0 bus I got a pci Multimedia [NOT supported] and the boot got no further. Now I also have an old Compaq file server so I tried running it up on that. It works okay. Now can I recomplile the kernel to not probe the pci bus then get this onto a floppy and run the install procedure? Thanks in advance, Chris :P From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 16:44:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA28321 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from Walden.MO.NET (tb@walden.mo.net [199.250.196.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA28310 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 16:44:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tb@localhost) by Walden.MO.NET (8.6.12/8.6.10) id SAA20630; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:48:48 -0600 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:48:48 -0600 (CST) From: Timothy Brown To: "David E. Berthiaume Jr." cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HELP!!! THIS IS AN EMERGENCY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think it is probably your incompetence that erased your hard drive. You might want to be advised of all the warnings that you probably ignored in the installation, such as You SHOULD BACKUP BEFORE PROCEEDING warnings and other related hooplah which are both in the install documents and the installation program. Grow up. On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, David E. Berthiaume Jr. wrote: > > I elect not to answer you question because: > > > > A) it is not AN EMERGENCY > > B) you .sig is larger then the text/content of the letter > You make a program that erases my hd and you won't help??? > I had to reinstall DOS cause your boot.flp erased my hd > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 17:07:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA29350 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA29332 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00800; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 00:22:52 GMT Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 00:22:52 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Larry Dolinar cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cmdtool scrolling, owplace(1)... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Dec 1995, Larry Dolinar wrote: > Two quick ones: > > XFree86 3.1.2 (from /pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE subdirs): > > 1. I've noticed cmdtool repeats commands *infinitely* (ie: 'ls' repeatedly > executes) and the window must be killed. shelltool with scrolling > enabled exhibits same behavior. termcap issue? 'env' shows > TERM=xterm. I usually run cmdtool from an xterm and get the opposite behaviour when I do, for example, ls -la on my home directory - the cmdtool locks up after the ls completes, and any further input ends up on the xterm I invoked it from! There seem to be quite a few problems with the xview and olvwm ports (that's not being critical - it must have been quite a job getting it to work at all). Here are all the things I've done that seem to improve things:- 1. Change all calls to cfree() to free(). 2. Edit all the hard-coded references to "/usr/lib/X11" (yuck!) 3. ln -s /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11 4. Add the following to your .profile, if you use sh/bash/ksh as your shell:- EXTRASMENU=/usr/X11R6/lib/.text_extras_menu OLWMMENU=/usr/X11R6/lib/openwin-menu OPENWINHOME=/usr/X11R6 export EXTRASMENU OLWMMNEU OPENWINHOME If you use csh/tcsh, add to your .cshrc instead:- setenv EXTRASMENU /usr/X11R6/lib/.text_extras_menu setenv OLWMMENU /usr/X11R6/lib/openwin-menu setenv OPENWINHOME /usr/X11R6 5. Either copy the distribution clients/olwm/.olwmmenu to /usr/X11R6/lib/openwin-menu or write your own (or do what I did and steal the one that comes with Slackware! 8-) Further suggestions welcome as I think I've reached the point where further investigation would require knowledge of X programming and a lot of spare time, neither of which I have very much of 8-( > 2. Attempts to save workspace by adding > "Save Workspace" SAVE_WORKSPACE > > to the OpenWindows system menu/submenus results in a popup basically > stating that owplace(1) failed to execute. Assuming it's a binary, > naturally it's not around. What package/port is it part of? Most of the binaries on the menu seem to be missing, presumably as Sun has more restrictive licensing terms on them. James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 17:21:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA00211 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:21:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.ios.com (root@haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA00205 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:21:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from michles@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA18151; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:13:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:13:27 -0500 (EST) From: Emil Mikhles To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ADAPTEC 3940's Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am running multiple Adaptec PCI SCSI controllers, and need the device, which supports it. Please provide me the one for 3940 and 3940W. Thank You... Emil Mikhles From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 17:31:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA00891 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00858 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:31:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA00327; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:08:35 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512280138.MAA00327@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Unpleasant scrolling behaviour on 2.1.0 (fwd) To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:08:35 +1030 (CST) Cc: craigs@venus.os.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9512250318.AA15691@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> from "Sean Kelly" at Dec 24, 95 08:18:21 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sean Kelly stands accused of saying: > Craig> BTW: It's not the network because telnet localhost does the > Craig> same thing! > > I tried this and I see what you mean! I did `ls -R /' on console and > after `telnet .' and the difference is definitely noticeable, I'd say > this isn't a deficiency in the FreeBSD console terminal emulation > ... the problem is more likely in the networking setup, but I'm not > sure where. > > I naively tried increasing the MTU for lo0, but that didn't help > `telnet .'. Hmm, I don't see this... cain:/> time ls -lR ... 28.518u 40.413s 4:54.65 23.3% 195+980k 9799+16io 0pf+0w cain:/> ls -lR |wc -l 120889 cain:/>uname -a FreeBSD cain.atrad.adelaide.edu.au 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Fri Dec 1 13:00:45 CST 1995 msmith@cain.atrad.adelaide.edu.au:/local1/2.1.0-STABLE/src/sys/compile/CAIN i386 cain:/>ifconfig lo0 lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 4:54 is 294 seconds, or around 411 lines/second; route to localhost is via the loopback interface. > Sean Kelly -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 17:52:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA02065 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02010 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA00407; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:28:46 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512280158.MAA00407@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? To: craigs@venus.os.com (Craig Shrimpton) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:28:46 +1030 (CST) Cc: JSINNOTT@POMONA.EDU, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Craig Shrimpton" at Dec 25, 95 07:14:17 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Craig Shrimpton stands accused of saying: > >>a SCSI card for my PCI and ISA Pentium? I was ng if anyone had any >>particularly positive or negative experiences with a brand. Obviously I want >>FreeBSD to support the card. :) Thanks > > Take a look at the Buslogic 946C. It is a very good PCI busmaster. Bollocks, and a complete waste of money. Spend less than $100 on an NCR 53C810-based SCSI controller, and treat yourself to a nice dinner on the change. The NCR chips are troopers, and perform just as well. > -Craig -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 18:20:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA03111 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:20:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA03106 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hillae.UUCP by pcnet1.pcnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05779; Wed, 27 Dec 95 21:23:33 EST Received: by hillae.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tV8ec-00013TC; Wed, 27 Dec 95 22:05 EST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Dec 95 22:05 EST From: dgy@hillae.com (David Yankura) To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've been trying to install FreeBSD on my AMD 486/DX 100MHz 8MB RAM VL-Bus machine with an Adaptec 2842A (VL-Bus) SCSI controller, Seagate ST31200N(1.05GB) and Seagate ST3283N(237MB) Disks. The FreeBSD boot kernel panics during the creation/extraction of the /bin directory. The error message on the 2nd virtual screen is something like "/mnt error in ino #nnn at offset #nnn mangled entry". The installation does not seem to panic at the same point each time I try it. I have tried using each of the disks for the root partition - still the same result. I have existing DOS partitions on both drives that are working fine as best as I can tell. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! David Yankura Hill Arts & Entertainment Systems, Inc. dgy@hillae.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 18:30:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA03843 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03830 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id VAA09908; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:30:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:30:41 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson To: "freebsd.questions" Subject: Locating modem in Seyon Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm trying to configure seyon. And am having some difficulty finding the correct place to put the modem information. I've been looking at the seyon manual page, but have yet to see any suggestions on where to put the modem info; ( set line /dev/cuaa1 ?). Also, I've found no reference to 'seyon-emu' in the documents. Is there any difference between 'seyon-emu' & using seyon in 'xterm'? ('Falling to `xterm'.') Listed below is a description of what happens when I try to start seyon from an xterm window. % seyon >> Warning: Could not execute `seyon-emu. >> Notice: Falling to `xterm'. ('seyon terminal emulator' window opens) Locating modems... >> Error: No modems specified >> Error: No modems available ('initialization error' window opens) (suggested solutions) -- Thanks Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0 | X11R6 <---<---<---<---<---<---< From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 18:31:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA03928 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:31:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03916 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:31:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA00576; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:08:53 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512280238.NAA00576@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Nec cdrom To: peter@haywire.dialix.com (Peter Wemm) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:08:52 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4bqfa5$a3i$1@haywire.DIALix.COM> from "Peter Wemm" at Dec 27, 95 11:41:57 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Peter Wemm stands accused of saying: > I've been fighting with a "Model: CDR-55JD" NEC drive for the last few > days. This drive and I have reached an understanding.. We both HATE > each other. I bought an NEC CD drive some time ago; it was so much of a crock that I was forced to return it & replace it with a Matsushita unit. NEC admitted that (despite their marketing claiming it was a SCSI-2 unit) it was only a "pseudo-scsi" (their words) drive that would only work properly with their drivers. I couldn't get it work under 2.0R, or on a Mac, or my old Atari TT, or even under DOS (I bought the drive bare). I have no faith whatsoever in NEC's ability to produce SCSI CD units, so reading about your problems doesn't surprise much 8) > I *hate* that drive... If the other NEC drives are like it too, I'll > be very reluctant to touch them ever again. This is my experience. > BTW: I, too, would dearly love to know what the other jumpers are for. > I suspect #5 or #6 is termination enable, but I'm not sure. My guess is termination enable terminator power to the bus; you can check this easily enough with a beep-meter. > -Peter -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 18:39:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA04739 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:39:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.ios.com (root@haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA04725 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:39:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from michles@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA23933; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:31:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:31:13 -0500 (EST) From: Emil Mikhles To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installation Problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, it appears that I have a Matsushita/Panasonic CR-504, and FreeBSD does not support it. Please send me the instructions on how to do it through DOS, since the CD-ROM is an unsupported type. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 18:40:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA04920 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from spunky.vpm.com ([205.162.123.143]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA04903 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by spunky.vpm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA02561 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:41:11 GMT From: Mark Stout Message-Id: <199512271841.SAA02561@spunky.vpm.com> Subject: Config error w/-current To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:41:11 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi ALl, I need some hand-holding here. Not being familiar with -current and what I need to get it compiled to replace the -RELEASE I'm running now, I need some help from some patient people. :) First, I've downloaded all of -current 'src' files. I've backed up my original files so I can replace them if need be. When I do a config I get the following error: Unknown % construct in generic makefile: %SFILES Looking at the Makefile.i386, I see %SFILES, along with some others. Is this caused by some option I selected in my kernel config file? Secondly, I need to get BSDI v2.0 binary capability. This requires that I run -current. So, I'm attempting to do that and I'm running into problems that I'm not equipped handle based in part because I don't know exactly what needs to be compiled with -current so that it boots up without problems. I'm looking for specifics, like do I need all of /sbin recompiled? I've been told that I need the kernel and anything that references the 'proc' structure. I did some checking and the 'proc' structure touches alot of code. So, not knowing *everything* it touches I'm wanting that information specifically. That may be beyond the scope of this mailing list, I don't know. Like I said, I have all of -current code, i.e. source, lib's, etc., so I need to know what to do to get -current up and running. Thirdly, I'd like to get 'sup' up and running. I figure I need to do this for -current since that's the version I need to run. I've seen the warning about needing to know the code/kernel and be prepared to dive in. Well, I'm probably over my head in this area, but I'm willing to dive in and do what I must to get it working as long as someone on this list can answer the seemingly stupid questions I'll more in likely be asking. :) I know how to program C, so that part doesn't scare me. What does is not knowing what I can or should change. So, there you have it. I definately *need* BSDI v2.0 compatibility and I'm only going to get that with -current. So now you know why I need to get -current up and running. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mark ========================================================================== Mark Stout | The Village Potpourri Mall: http://www.vpm.com/ -------------+----------------------------------------------------------- VPM Enterprises; P.O.Box 6427; Folsom, CA 95763-6427 Secured Internet Sales, Marketing and Advertising Specialist ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 18:47:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA05806 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:47:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05798 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:47:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA00652; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:24:29 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512280254.NAA00652@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: HELP!!! THIS IS AN EMERGENCY To: mud@iii.net (David E. Berthiaume Jr.) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:24:28 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "David E. Berthiaume Jr." at Dec 27, 95 01:51:10 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk David E. Berthiaume Jr. stands accused of saying: > > > > You make a program that erases my hd and you won't help??? We also sell guns. You expect us to be sorry when you shoot yourself in the foot because you're too thick to read the instructions? I don't think so. > as a matter fact i am going to take the cd and shove it...nevermind that > just forget about me or my clients useing freebsd anymore I am going to > give them linux from now on...go to hell. Gee, and we'll really miss you too. I _was_ going to reply to your initial questions. I guess I just bought myself a coffee break. Ta. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 18:53:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA06116 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06092 Wed, 27 Dec 1995 18:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA00668; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:30:50 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512280300.NAA00668@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Will an additional 4 MB help? To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:30:49 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Donald Burr" at Dec 27, 95 11:25:50 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Donald Burr stands accused of saying: > My computer, FYI, is an 486DX2/66 with 8 MB of RAM... 1.0 GB FAST SCSI-2 > disk, plus a 150 MB IDE that I use as auxiliary filesystem space. Spend on memory. You are seriously cramped here; 16M is really a workable minimum for this configuration. > I've narrowed down my choices to one of two (I can only afford one): 2 > backup cartridges, or an additional 4 MB of memory. Sheesh! What backup media are you using? 4M of memory is about $200 (australian dollars, retail), the most expensive backup tapes I can think of at the moment would be DC525's, and they only run to about $45 or so... > As an aside, how "much" would a 12 MB configuration help out in Windows > 95, vs. an 8 MB configuration? Likewise, lots. > My system has 4 72-pin SIMM slots, which right now contain 2 4MB SIMMs, > for a total of 8 MB. So if I continue adding 4 MB SIMMs, I can have a > max. of 16 MB of memory. If I want to go any higher, I'd have to sell > all my SIMMs and get bigger individual modules -- like getting 8 MB > modules instead of 4 MB's, or 16 MB modules (do they even have those > yet?). If I were able to afford this, then I might as well break down > and upgrade everything, including the CPU (see below). So this probably > won't happen. 16 is probably the max. memory for me with this system. I'd actually try trading in the 4M modules plus your cash for either a pair of 8's or a single 16. The pair would stand you in better stead if you were to go to a Pentium later, the 16 will be cheaper. > So, I should probably get a 4 MB SIMM stick now, it'll probably help some > (maybe even dramatically). Then I can always add another 4 MB later, and > when the big jackpot hits, go for the Pentium. Right? If all you can afford is another 4M stick, then _yes_, this will contribute more to your performance than anything else can. > Please help a confused soul out... and apologies if this is somewhat > off-topic. Not at all; possibly -hardware would have been a good cc:. > Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 19:43:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA09520 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:43:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts11-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA09513 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00242; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:43:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:43:24 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Michael Smith cc: Craig Shrimpton , JSINNOTT@POMONA.EDU, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? In-Reply-To: <199512280158.MAA00407@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > Bollocks, and a complete waste of money. Spend less than $100 on an NCR > 53C810-based SCSI controller, and treat yourself to a nice dinner on the > change. The NCR chips are troopers, and perform just as well. I'm trying to find one of these fabled controllers. I don't see anything by NCR. Are they hidden in someone else's products? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 19:45:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA09703 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA09691 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:44:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA00863; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:22:08 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512280352.OAA00863@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Probe v2.1 not recognizing PCI Bus To: richards@mail.ctenet.com (John Richards) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:22:07 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199512231859.MAA07637@gomer.wiscnet.net> from "John Richards" at Dec 23, 95 12:59:59 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Richards stands accused of saying: > I have created a boot floppy, and at boot, I use the -c switch to customize. > I have a Pentium 120 PCI/ISA Award BIOS v4.50G, 16MB RAM, Adaptec 2940 scsi > controler, with 3c509B nic. When I get to the config prompt, and use the ls > command, I do not have the pci device ahc0 listed. I believe I have tried That's normal; PCI devices aren't listed because they have no parameters that can be modified. If you go to the 'visual' editor, the PCI devices are listed, and you can 'disable' them, but this is just cosmetic. > all documented possibilities. The bottom line is that the kernel probe does > not probe the PCI bus properly to find the Adaptec controller so I have no > recognized hard drives. In fact, the only time I see the probe even check > for the PCI bus is when I use the -v option at boot. With -v, it checks, > but doesn't succeed. This sounds like you are using a Compaq machine, or something else with a broken PCI bus. If you haven't had any responses from the PCI experts by now, a brief post to hackers@freebsd.org stating your machine details (ie. if it's a Compaq, or if not, what chipset/bios it's using, and the details from the -v boot probe) should elicit a useful reponse. > John Richards Good luck! -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 19:46:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA09834 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts11-line13.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA09828 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00252; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:45:58 -0800 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:45:58 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: System Administrator cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X won't run, why? In-Reply-To: <199512272323.QAA00467@oddis.cyber-naut.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, System Administrator wrote: > I just got done installing X-windows on my new computer, but it won't run. I assume this is a FreeBSD 2.1 box. > I start X by typing "xinit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc" > > It starts to load, then it gives me this message: > "XF86OpenConsole /dev/kbd (Device not configured)" Did you run the xf86config script to build an XF86Config file? That pretty well automates the procedure. Did you also compile a new kernel with `options "XSERVER"'? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 20:01:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA10913 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA10904 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:01:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA14006; Wed, 27 Dec 95 22:00:41 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA27007; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:00:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:00:40 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9512280400.AA27007@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Cc: craigs@venus.os.com, JSINNOTT@pomona.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512280158.MAA00407@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> (message from Michael Smith on Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:28:46 +1030 (CST)) Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Michael" == Michael Smith writes: >> Take a look at the Buslogic 946C. It is a very good PCI >> busmaster. Michael> Bollocks, and a complete waste of money. Unless you don't have BIOS support for the NCR, or have an IDE or a custom floppy from which you can boot (floppy? euyuck!). In that case, the BT946C really shines. I think Jordan has one, too! Neener, neener, neener! :-) Michael> Spend less than $100 on an NCR 53C810-based SCSI Michael> controller, and treat yourself to a nice dinner on the Michael> change. The NCR chips are troopers, and perform just as Michael> well. That's the drawback of the BT946C ... I haven't eaten dinner in months! -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA When the age of the Vikings came to a close, they must have sensed it. Probably, the gathered together one evening, slapped each other on the back and said, "Hey, good job." -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 20:02:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA10979 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10965 Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA00958; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:38:53 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512280408.OAA00958@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Trouble with installing FREEBSD To: mitch@carroll.com (Mitch Friedman) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:38:52 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, zeleps@hol.gr, support@cdrom.com, info@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512240045.TAA05723@carroll.com> from "Mitch Friedman" at Dec 23, 95 07:45:35 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Firstly, Mitch old buddy, get a mail program that understands how lines are supposed to be wrapped. I'll be nice and reformat this message, but bear in mind that many people would simply ignore it because it's too much effort to read. > I have a 250M C-disk which is my boot-up dos disk and a 1.08G >d-disk, that I use desire to use for both unix and dos since it is big >enough to hold dos based program, as well as unix stuff. I used >presizer, v.1.1.2 to partition the d-disk into a 600 mb Dos partition >and a 400 mb non-Dos partition, for UNIX-FreeBSD. I admit I was a This is an unworkable configuration if your system is IDE-based. You must have the entire root filesystem below the 1024-cylinder mark to be able to boot. (This is a BIOS limitation). >little to ambitious and wanted to load the bin, gnu, games, and other >source files. Obviously the 400mb would not be enough. But Freebsd >doesn't care, like any other Unix o/s, and tried to load it. Of >course it wrote over into some parts of the Dos partition (how do I >know this...see below!)-no not a internet smile a real exclamation pt >and a parenthesis- FreeBSD would only have written over the DOS partition if the partition table was incorrect. I would suspect the "presizer" utility. You should have read the installation notes and use the "fips" program supplied. It has been tested on countless systems and is known to work well. >I rebooted with a dos diskette and guess what?!? My d-disk was gone! >I checked with fdisk and presizer to see what the hell was going on >with my d-disk Well, my 1.08G d-disk turned into a 507 mb d-disk, in >which only 478.5 mb could be reconfigured or formatted into a d-disk You are (were) using a BIOS-extender such as OnTrack's Disk Manager. These tools work by revectoring the BIOS disk function entrypoints and are, as a rule, incompatible with any operating system other than DOS. Note that FreeBSD does generally support interoperation with DiskManager. The "presizer" tool may also have corrupted the partition table due to the presence of this BIOS extender. > Anyway, I spent six hours trying to recover my @$%@$!!~#%$^&@$%&$ >d-disk. I could not regain the lost partition with presizer or fdisk! >Re-formatting did squat! Until I took the disk utilities that came >with my d-disk, re-initialized the d-disk, powered my pc down and up, >reformat the d-disk. Then and only then was I able to recover my >d-disk in total!!!! However, since I had to re-initialize and >re-format my disk I subsequently blew-away some important programs, >such as TRUMPET and EUDORA and other internet goodies that I >painstakingly down-loaded. I spent a good portion of the night >redown-loading this stuff!! Why did you not perform a backup before the installation? It is _EXPLICITLY_ stated in the installation instructions that you should perform a _FULL_BACKUP_ before installing. > This should not have happened!! Is there a back-out or fail-safe >utility that can be used in case something like this happens, in which >I can recover my disk with out destroying it. Is there a switch that >can be used with presizer to look at the total disk, instead of the >dos partition? Is there a switch or utility that can be used with the >installation that can warn me when I attempt to choose something that >will take up to much space on my disk? Your problems are several; you are attempting to use a fundamentally bogus disk configuration which only works due to the addition of fundamentally bogus software, with an operating system that has a very different idea of things. You can do this, but you need to take a different approach, and in particular, come to grips with the fact that PC hardware, _particularly_ IDE, is crap, and that much of the software that you are currently using is merely perpetuating design decisions that were bad when they were made 10 or 15 years ago, and simply ludicrous now. > HELP!!!! I WOULD REALLLLY LIKE TO RUN THIS THING, BUT I WILL NOT >LOAD IT UNTIL I AM CONFIDENT THAT I WILL NOT DAMAGE MY COMPUTER, DISK, >OR SANITY!!!! OTHERWISE, I WILL HAVE TO RETURN THIS PIECE OF SOFTWARE >AND ASK FOR A FULL REFUND!!! If you're not confident about the whole thing, then a refund is a good idea. Alternatively, you can shop for some new hardware, take some advice from here and run with it. In summary, probably the best approach you can take is : Back up _everything_. Swap the 250M and 1G disks so that you boot DOS and have all of that stuff on the 1G disk. Install FreeBSD on the _entire_ 250M disk, but do _not_ install the bootmanager. Get the OS-BS bootmanager off the CD, and run the install program under _DOS_ having booted from the 1G disk. This will avoid the problems that will otherwise arise using the stupid BIOS-extender that is at the beginning of the 1G disk, but it is a bit of work. The _right_ choice for you would have been to use SCSI disks, where all this crap is irrelevant. > Mitch Friedman -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 20:16:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA11397 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:16:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA11392 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:16:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA01022; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:53:24 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512280423.OAA01022@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:53:24 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, craigs@venus.os.com, JSINNOTT@POMONA.EDU, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Dec 27, 95 07:43:24 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Doug White stands accused of saying: > > On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > > > Bollocks, and a complete waste of money. Spend less than $100 on an NCR > > 53C810-based SCSI controller, and treat yourself to a nice dinner on the > > change. The NCR chips are troopers, and perform just as well. > > I'm trying to find one of these fabled controllers. I don't see anything > by NCR. Are they hidden in someone else's products? Lots of people use them; we buy the ASUS SC-200's because that's what we can get, and because they supply active terminators onboard. (Passive termination makes no sense in a fast SCSI-2 environment) > Doug White | University of Oregon -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 20:35:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA12159 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.os.com ([199.232.47.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA12136 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:34:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from craigs@localhost) by venus.os.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA29586; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 23:35:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 23:35:13 -0500 (EST) From: Craig Shrimpton To: Michael Smith cc: JSINNOTT@POMONA.EDU, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? In-Reply-To: <199512280158.MAA00407@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > > Bollocks, and a complete waste of money. Spend less than $100 on an NCR > 53C810-based SCSI controller, and treat yourself to a nice dinner on the > change. The NCR chips are troopers, and perform just as well. > Well, you can get the 946 from Sparco for $194.00. Hardly an issue after spending zillions on 128 MB of RAM. The ASUS card is great, if you happen own an ASUS. Unless the board has the NCR bios you can't boot a drive with the ASUS card. -Craig From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 20:41:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA12579 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12570 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:41:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA01098; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:18:03 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512280448.PAA01098@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:18:03 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, craigs@venus.os.com, JSINNOTT@pomona.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9512280400.AA27007@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> from "Sean Kelly" at Dec 27, 95 09:00:40 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sean Kelly stands accused of saying: > Unless you don't have BIOS support for the NCR, or have an IDE or a > custom floppy from which you can boot (floppy? euyuck!). In that > case, the BT946C really shines. I think Jordan has one, too! Neener, > neener, neener! :-) ...and they aren't in wcarchive anymore because Bustek and Micron (IIRC) got in bed and the resulting changes to the 946 firmware meant that they became incompatible with everything, at least for a while. I know that FreeBSD Inc. rescinded their official endorsement of these controllers for just that reason quite some time ago, after which BT supposedly came back towards the party, but I never heard anything more about it. SPEAKING OF WHICH... Justin, or any other 2940-hackers, is there any progress on the 2940 driver bug(s) in 2.1R? I've got a site I'm supporting that's flipping 4-5 times a day, and we could _really_ use a fix. Unfortunately, there's nothing being logged about the panic, and I haven't been able to get them to take a handwritten transcript of the panic message. The setup there is a stock 2940 and a Seagate ST31200N; beside it is a 2940UW and a 9G Seagate that's just humming along without a care. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 20:46:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA12768 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:46:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12762 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:46:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA01138; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:23:12 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512280453.PAA01138@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? To: craigs@venus.os.com (Craig Shrimpton) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:23:12 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, JSINNOTT@POMONA.EDU, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Craig Shrimpton" at Dec 27, 95 11:35:13 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Craig Shrimpton stands accused of saying: > > Bollocks, and a complete waste of money. Spend less than $100 on an NCR > > 53C810-based SCSI controller, and treat yourself to a nice dinner on the > > change. The NCR chips are troopers, and perform just as well. > > Well, you can get the 946 from Sparco for $194.00. Hardly an issue after > spending zillions on 128 MB of RAM. The ASUS card is great, if you > happen own an ASUS. Unless the board has the NCR bios you can't boot a > drive with the ASUS card. Funny, we only have one of them in an ASUS board; the rest are in a variety of J-random Triton PCI motherboards, mostly Soyo and Expert (the Expert boards are crap, but they're relatively cheap). All of these have the NCR bios; in fact, I haven't met a PCI motherboard on sale here yet that doesn't. YMMV. > -Craig -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 21:03:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA13609 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13604 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA11055; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:03:21 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA00324; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:03:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512280503.VAA00324@corbin.Root.COM> To: Michael Smith cc: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly), craigs@venus.os.com, JSINNOTT@pomona.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Dec 95 15:18:03 +1030." <199512280448.PAA01098@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:03:19 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >SPEAKING OF WHICH... > >Justin, or any other 2940-hackers, is there any progress on the 2940 driver >bug(s) in 2.1R? I've got a site I'm supporting that's flipping 4-5 times >a day, and we could _really_ use a fix. Unfortunately, there's nothing >being logged about the panic, and I haven't been able to get them to take >a handwritten transcript of the panic message. > >The setup there is a stock 2940 and a Seagate ST31200N; beside it is a >2940UW and a 9G Seagate that's just humming along without a care. Justin is on vacation right now... He's made some progress on fixing the bugs and has mostly or completely solved the major bugs for the tagged-queueing case. The non-tagged case is still broken, but he plans to fix that soon. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 21:45:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA15045 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from nameserver.1stresource.com (root@[205.139.129.222]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA15040 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:45:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup11.1stresource.com (dialup11.1stresource.com [205.139.129.12]) by nameserver.1stresource.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA27262 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:01:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199512280701.CAA27262@nameserver.1stresource.com> X-Sender: snorthcutt@nameserver.1stresource.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 00:42:23 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: snorthcutt@1stresource.com (Scott Northcutt) Subject: Gateway? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Howdy folks, Off hand, does anyone know about the FreeBSD track record of systems from Gateway 2000. I've got a Gateway Pentium 75 (40M RAM, 300M partition for BSD, PCI, unsure of exact graphics card) at work which is fairly successfully running 2.1 but not X yet. If anyone else has gotten a Gateway to go (particularly X with the ps2 type mouse), please pass along any do's, don'ts, hints and caveats. Thanks! virtual regards, --J. Scott Northcutt p.s. - If Gateways leave a bad taste in your mouth and/or cause you to wake up in a cold sweat at night, please, no flames...the company bought the machine, not me. :-) ========================================================================== J. Scott Northcutt snorthcutt@1stresource.com AD4JR I DO have a job, but I DON'T get e-mail there (yet), so this will have to do. ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 21:50:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA15335 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from quip.eecs.umich.edu (dmuntz@quip.eecs.umich.edu [141.212.99.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA15325 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:50:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dmuntz@localhost) by quip.eecs.umich.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2) id AAA27720 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 00:50:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 00:50:11 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Muntz Message-Id: <199512280550.AAA27720@quip.eecs.umich.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: pcmcia modem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Never mind. I ported the 2.0 code to 2.1. -Dan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 22:28:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA17433 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 22:28:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA17427 Wed, 27 Dec 1995 22:28:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512280628.WAA17427@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Emil Mikhles cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ADAPTEC 3940's In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 27 Dec 1995 20:13:27 EST." Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 22:28:26 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >Hi, I am running multiple Adaptec PCI SCSI controllers, and need the >device, which supports it. Please provide me the one for 3940 and 3940W. >Thank You... > > Emil Mikhles Put multiple ahc entries in your kernel config file: ahc0 ahc1 ahc2 ... -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Dec 27 23:13:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA18803 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 23:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA18796 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 23:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA01581; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:49:44 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512280719.RAA01581@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Still cant use ed1 To: efb@cotdazr.org (Everett F Batey II) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:49:43 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, efb@oxnardsd.org In-Reply-To: <30E0FAD7.41C67EA6@cotdazr.org> from "Everett F Batey II" at Dec 26, 95 11:50:47 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Everett F Batey II stands accused of saying: > > NO I CANT lose all this work and rebuild the disk .. NO I cant find > the original before values were saved .. > > I have a 486DX.66, 16M, FreeBSD_2.0.5 from CDs. I have a "TrendNet" > NE-2000 Clone which is found along with its ethernet address upon > boot up .. I have yet to find ANY combo of values for the boot: -c > choices to get a live ed1 connection to the other ethernet devs on > the coax (TE2000 has 10B2 and UTP conns) .. most recently tried .. > ed1 0x300 5 -1 0xd8000 ... and 0x300 10 -1 ... Why are you not just setting the parameters to match what the card is set to? And is it ed0 or ed1 that is being found during the probes? > I get two ifconfig msgs about "no such interface" .. netstat -nr > only shows the lo0 and after I start PPP .. tun0 .. What about netstat -ni ? > Some help and ideas on troubleshooting this would be really welcome. Sure. Sounds like the first step is to work out what the card's harware is set to. > /Ev/ -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 00:05:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA20701 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 00:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv1.pcy.mci.net (mailsvr1.pcy.mci.net [204.71.0.43]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20695 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 00:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from omer.cr.mci.com (166.37.108.18) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V4.3-13 #10045) id <01HZBQFFG5GW938CR3@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET>; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 03:05:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 01:59:10 -0600 From: ofarook <721.4992@mcimail.com> Subject: WINDOWS NT BOOT MANAGER & FREEBSD To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <30E24E4E.68FA@mcimail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-URL: http://www.yahoo.com/ Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I recently got a FREEBSD 2.1 CDROM FROM Walnut Creek. I have two hard disks and I have both Windows NT 3.5 and Windows 95 with NT BOOT LOADER (dual booting). isk 1 has only one primary partition with WIN95 and Disk 2 one primary partition with win NT (700M). I created another primary partition in Disk 2 for FREEBSD and tried to install it, but hard luck. My questions are 1. With above configuration, can I install FREEBSD. 2. If so, How do I make NT BOOT manager recognise FREEBSD partition without installing F/BSD boot manager? I installed F/BSD in the new partition and edited boot.ini for NT loader with the following configuration C:\=Windows 95 -- default disk(1):rdisk(1): Partition(1): Windows Nt disk(1):rdisk(1): Partition(2): Free BSD when my computer starts, NT loader throws a menu and if I choose FREEBSD I get TRAP 0000E error. But WIN 95 and WIN NT working fine. Am I doing anything wrong? 3. If am doing something wrong, How do I make FREEBSD co-exist with NT Loader and add it as one of menu option for NT boot manager? Please help me to install F/BSD. Thanks Omer Farook Kose-Shahul 721.4992@mcimail.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 00:36:45 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA21869 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 00:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from aleph.lpi.ac.ru (aleph.lpi.ac.ru [147.45.17.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA21860 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 00:36:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from td.lpi.ac.ru by aleph.lpi.ac.ru with ESMTP id KAA01562; (8.6.8/D) Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:58:44 +0300 Received: by td.lpi.ac.ru id LAA02079; (8.6.11/D) Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:19:45 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Organization: Department of Theoretical Physics. Lebedev Physical Institute. From: "Maksim Stolyarov" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:19:45 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.40 FreeBSD] Subject: Help! Problem with root shell :( Lines: 35 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Dear Folks! 1. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to Everybody! 2. Alarm! (or BEDA! in Russian :) Please help! Situation: Accidentally I've changed root shell to *non-existent* one. vipw honestly warned about it. I stupidly missed the event. Evidently I can not login neither as root nor as su now. I rebooted the box into single mode (boot -s) in oder to correct my mistake with vipw. BUT In single mode / is mounted in my system as readonly! And I can do nothing with ``writable tools'' like vipw. Ideas? What should I change for mounting / as RW in single mode? Please send mail to mns@lpi.ac.ru because I can not even start my home uucp to get mails (including FBSD ones) from my Institute :( Specifics: FreeBSD 2.1 (great System, really) Thank you in advance, best wishes, Maksim. --- Maksim N. Stolyarov -> mns@lpi.ac.ru <- Department of Theoretical Physics, Lebedev Physical Institute, RAS Leninskii 53, 117924, Moscow, Russia fax: +7(95)135-8533, tel: +7(95)132-6024 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 01:34:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA24092 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 01:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-12.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA24072 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 01:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA25326; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 01:37:42 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 01:37:41 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: Justin Seger cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet card for ISA-based FreeBSD Machine In-Reply-To: <199512272057.PAA24777@iii1.iii.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Justin Seger wrote: > I have a FreeBSD machine that will be routing IP packets from the internet to a > LAN of Macs and Windows '95 based machines. What network card would you > recommend? Thanks in advance, You can get a good card for not a lot of dough. and you don't necessarily have to go with 3Com or the big boys. I must say I'm quite happy with my Linksys NE2000 card. Very cheap (it was $49 at CompUSA), good performance, 16-bit ISA (of course), and works beautifully under FreeBSD and Linux, as well as Win95 and WFW3.11. The Maxtech NE2000 card is $10 cheaper (at $39 CompUSA) and is also a good performer. We have it running in another machine here, that mainly runs Win95 but also can be found running FreeBSD every now and then.) Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 01:39:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA24458 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 01:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from bighorn.accessnv.com (root@bighorn.accessnv.com [199.2.253.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA24451 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 01:39:01 -0800 (PST) From: mitch@bighorn.accessnv.com Received: from meharhay (ppp013.anv.net [205.199.152.23]) by bighorn.accessnv.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA12389 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 01:43:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199512280943.BAA12389@bighorn.accessnv.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 01:42:41 +0000 Subject: Installing from dos part or CD Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am currently trying to install freeBSD on my D: drive which is a 1.62 gig hard drive. I have an unsupported CD rom, it is a 6x Wearnes CD rom drive that came with my Gateway 2000. I am trying to install freebsd 2.0.5 from the June 1995 Walnut Creek CD set. Since I am unable to load from the CD I followed the instructions to install from a dos partition. I xcopied the files from e:\dist\bin to my c:\freebsd. I actually copied the whole dist's to my C: drive because I have enough free space on C:. I then proceeded to copy the floppies directory and I also made a bootable floppy. When I ran the install program and said the media type was from dos partition, it would create my new partitions but it could not find the boot mirror from the dos partition or from the floppy I had made. I thought maybe it was looking on the d: drive to install to, so I made a small dos partition on the D: and followed the instructions this time and copied just the basic /dist/bin to that drive. Same thing occurred, couldn't find the boot mirror from the floppy or from the dos parition. Any suggestions? I have been playing with this for 2 days. I tried to install Linux on the hard drive too, but it wouldn't work because my cd-rom is unsupported. So I am the closest with Freebsd, and it actually is my preference, but right now I will take anything that works. Thanks again, Mitch Harhay Access Nevada, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 02:40:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA27049 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:40:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nic.hq.cic.net (root@nic.hq.cic.net [198.108.58.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA27044 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:40:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from technet.iftech.net (technet.iftech.net [206.69.112.4]) by nic.hq.cic.net (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA22004 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 05:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from Aga-38.iftech.net by technet.iftech.net id aa11078; 28 Dec 95 20:40 Guam X-Sender: kschafer@iftech.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 20:39:39 -1400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Kevin A. Schafer" Subject: 2.0.5 install time out Message-ID: <9512282040.aa11078@technet.iftech.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to install 2.0.5 from a SCSI CD-ROM attached to a proaudio studio SCSI Trantor I/F. Everyting goes fine up to the point where the installation starts to copy files from the CD. Needless to say no files get copied to the HD... After a couple of minutes the install program reports the SCSI device timed out. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 02:55:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA27658 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-12.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27603 Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA26981; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:57:21 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 02:57:20 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: FreeBSD Questions cc: FreeBSD SCSI Subject: VLB controllers: benefits? which one to buy? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk A friend of mine posed a question to me, which, quite frankly, I don't know the answer to. He currently has a 486DX2/66 with 16 MB of memory. The motherboard is ISA + VLB. His primary hard drive is a IBM 0662 (1 GB FAST SCSI-2 drive), and his controller is an Adaptec AHA-1542CP (same as the 1542CF, but with Plug and Play support). He runs both Windows 95 and FreeBSD 2.1-RELEASE. He was wondering if there was any real difference in performance between his ISA board (1542CP) and a VLB-based SCSI controller. Will it be faster, or is there not really a noticable difference? I remember back when I had IDE drives, when I switched from a 16-bit ISA to a 32-bit VLB IDE controller, I was not impressed with the (small) speed difference it gave me. But maybe SCSI is different? I don't really know, so I couldn't really answer his question myself. He also would like to know, out of curiosity, what VLB SCSI controllers would be the best to buy, and how much to expect to pay for one. Obviously it would have to be compatible with FreeBSD and Win95. He's not planning on getting a Pentium or PCI or whatnot any time soon, or else he said he'd probably get one of those NCR chips that everyone's talking about. Thanks for the assistance! Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 03:22:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA28553 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 03:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA28547 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 03:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA27769 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:21:50 +0100 Message-Id: <199512281121.AA27769@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:21:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: "PCI bus on a Compaq Prolinea466" (Dec 27, 19:36) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Subject: Re: PCI bus on a Compaq Prolinea466 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Dec 27, 19:36, wrote: } Hi, I'm trying to install FreedBSD 2.0.5 R2 from CD onto a Compaq } Prolinea 466. I managed to make a boot floppy and tried to boot it. } Once the kernel got to probing the pci0 bus I got a pci Multimedia } [NOT supported] and the boot got no further. Now I also have an old } Compaq file server so I tried running it up on that. It works okay. Hmmm, the probe finds some PCI card, but then stops ??? Could you please try booting with "-v" entered at the "Boot: " prompt, and send all NUMBERS from lines with pcibus_setup() or pcibus_check on them, and the LAST few lines printed ? } Now can I recomplile the kernel to not probe the pci bus then get this } onto a floppy and run the install procedure? You could compile a kernel without the "controller pci0" line, to completely disable PCI probes. but I doubt that this solves your problem, since I never heard of any PCI system that locked up in the PCI probe ... Another possibility would be to try /sys/i386/isa/pcibus.c from the FreeBSD-current sources. Reagrds, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 03:30:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA28879 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 03:30:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from nic.tip.net (nic.tip.net [192.36.73.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA28873 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 03:30:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from icon.pp.se (uucp@localhost) by nic.tip.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with UUCP id MAA19551; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:29:38 +0100 Received: (from daniel@localhost) by icon.pp.se (8.6.12/8.6.10) id MAA06666; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:24:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:24:28 +0100 Message-Id: <199512281124.MAA06666@icon.pp.se> From: Daniel Eriksson To: jbarrm@panix.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Barry Masterson on Wed, 27 Dec 1995 21:30:41 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Locating modem in Seyon Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I'm trying to configure seyon. And am having some difficulty finding > the correct place to put the modem information. I've been looking at > the seyon manual page, but have yet to see any suggestions on where > to put the modem info; ( set line /dev/cuaa1 ?). Have you tried starting it as 'seyon -modem /dev/cuaa1'? This should work! -- Daniel Eriksson, daniel@icon.pp.se From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 03:44:45 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA29404 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 03:44:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA29399 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 03:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id GAA20731; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:44:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:44:40 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson To: "freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: Locating modem in Seyon In-Reply-To: <199512281124.MAA06666@icon.pp.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thanks, Just got it going. I found additional docs in the compiling directory. I should have looked harder before writing. Thanks again Barry >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0 <---<---<---<---<---< On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Daniel Eriksson wrote: > > > I'm trying to configure seyon. And am having some difficulty finding > > the correct place to put the modem information. I've been looking at > > the seyon manual page, but have yet to see any suggestions on where > > to put the modem info; ( set line /dev/cuaa1 ?). > > Have you tried starting it as 'seyon -modem /dev/cuaa1'? This should > work! > > -- > Daniel Eriksson, daniel@icon.pp.se > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 04:37:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA02265 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 04:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA02242 Thu, 28 Dec 1995 04:36:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA02854; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:14:18 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512281244.XAA02854@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: VLB controllers: benefits? which one to buy? To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:14:18 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Donald Burr" at Dec 28, 95 02:57:20 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Donald Burr stands accused of saying: > > He was wondering if there was any real difference in performance between > his ISA board (1542CP) and a VLB-based SCSI controller. Will it be > faster, or is there not really a noticable difference? Shitloads. > I remember back when I had IDE drives, when I switched from a 16-bit ISA > to a 32-bit VLB IDE controller, I was not impressed with the (small) > speed difference it gave me. But maybe SCSI is different? I don't > really know, so I couldn't really answer his question myself. The difference is very significant 8) > He also would like to know, out of curiosity, what VLB SCSI controllers > would be the best to buy, and how much to expect to pay for one. > Obviously it would have to be compatible with FreeBSD and Win95. The Adaptec 2842, Ultrastor 34F or Buslogic BT445 are the three worth considering. It's hard to compare them performance-wise; I'd just go for whichever he can get cheapest. > Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 04:54:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA02983 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 04:54:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA02978 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 04:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet3.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa23523; 28 Dec 95 7:56 EST Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:56:43 -0500 (EST) From: steve hovey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1R rwall doesnt work Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I use rwall on my sco;s so I tried to enable it on the freebsd 2.1R - the rwall doesnt make it. I tried manually bringnig up the rwall daemon instead of inetd.conf and it said "unable to allocate string space" Is there a trick to it that Im missing? ------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Hovey -- shovey@buffnet.net root@buffnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 04:55:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA03034 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 04:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03029 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 04:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet3.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa23547; 28 Dec 95 7:57 EST Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:57:56 -0500 (EST) From: steve hovey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1R nfs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk If I try to use nfs with 2.1R (unlike 2.0.5 or 2.0) it complains that there is now /var/something/mountdb Is there docs on this anywhere? Im not finding them. ------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Hovey -- shovey@buffnet.net root@buffnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 06:15:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA05828 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:15:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-23.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA05812 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:14:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA07986; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:17:39 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:17:34 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Swap devices under FreeBSD? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I just noticed that my swap device is "/dev/wd0s1b", as opposed to "/dev/rwd0s1b". I thought swap devices under UNIX generally used the character-special as opposed to the block-special device file? Am I mistaken, or does FreeBSD just do things differently? Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 06:33:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA06299 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:33:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mimsy.cdrom.com (mimsy.cdrom.com [192.216.223.173]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06294 Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:33:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by mimsy.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA02099; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:33:31 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: mimsy.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) cc: cosmos@misery.bssc.org (Daniel Leeds), hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Hackers), jack@cdrom.com (Jack Velte), velte@mimsy.cdrom.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP!!! THIS IS AN EMERGENCY (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:49:38 +0100." <199512281149.MAA20604@allegro.lemis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2094.820161210.1@mimsy.cdrom.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:33:30 -0800 Message-ID: <2096.820161210@mimsy.cdrom.com> From: Jack Velte Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) said... >Daniel Leeds writes: >> >> Forwarded message: >>> >>>>> You make a program that erases my hd and you won't help??? >>>>> I had to reinstall DOS cause your boot.flp erased my hd >> >>> If you had read my first letter you would have seen that I have >>> now the notes say that if you have problems then write to >>> questions@FreeBSd.org. so I did. and you all act like assholes well I >>> have been useing freebsd for years >>> forget me useing it anymore >>> as a matter of fact I used to recomend it to my friends well FUCKING >>> FORGET THAT TOO >>> as a matter fact i am going to take the cd and shove it...nevermind that >>> just forget about me or my clients useing freebsd anymore I am going to >>> give them linux from now on...go to hell. i am appalled. we very seldom encounter such hostility from FreeBSD users. perhaps because we get paid to be polite and accommodating. i don't have the person's email address so i can't tell him this. i would like to tell the people on these mailing lists that Walnut Creek CDROM has an UNCONDITIONAL refund policy. at the VERY least, this user may get his money back from us. you might also refer customers like this to "support@cdrom.com" and we'll do what we can to help him. >> another satisfied customer? what i dont understand is why they *never* >> read the install docs. and if he has been using freebsd for years why >> would it be so foreign to him....ahh well. between this and SpUnkeY or >> whatever the hell his name is, the hackers list has been mildly amusing. > >I don't find this amusing. OK, he may be a jerk, but on the other hand, maybe >he isn't. He's certainly frustrated, and it would be nice to understand why, >and if there's anything that we can do to ensure that it doesn't happen more >often than absolutely necessary. What was the problem? Walnut Creek CDROM considers ANY unsatisfied customer to be a failure. if we can't get their system working, we will do what we can to minimize their unhappiness. -jack walnut creek cdrom From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 06:46:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA06853 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06848 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA15721; Thu, 28 Dec 95 08:46:49 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA27410; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:46:48 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:46:48 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9512281446.AA27410@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu, ache@astral.msk.su Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: ecu-3.38/POSIX question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Andrey" == aka Andrey A Chernov, Black Mage writes: Andrey> In message <9512280902.AA01712@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Andrey> David E. O'Brien writes: >> Does anyone know what in the world ``CBAUD'' is? Andrey> CBAUD must die, it is SYSVism, not POSIX Yep ... but that probably won't help David's compile. CBAUD is a mask to extract the output (or both input/output?) bps rate in the c_cflag field of the termios structure. On FreeBSD, there are separate speed fields. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA Picard walks up to the replicator and says, "Coke on ice." -- One of 46 things that never happen on Star Trek From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 06:54:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA07163 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-23.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA07123 Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA22914; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:57:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 06:57:40 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: FreeBSD Questions cc: FreeBSD Hackers , FreeBSD Chat Subject: "To parity, or not to parity; that is the question..." Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk well, OK, I guess Shakespear was never really into computers. But, like Romeo, I too am facing a difficult dilemma when next I walk into a computer show or store. Because, I now have some Xmas cash burning a hole in my pocket, I want some memory, and I want it NOW. But I don't know what kind of memory I need to get. Unfortunately, since my computer is pretty much "home brew", I can't exactly call up tech support and say "hey! Do I need parity chips for a 486 computer?" People have said "check your BIOS setup program, if it has any settings that mention anything parity-related, then you probably need it." I did this, but alas, none of the configurable stuff had anythig even remotely to do with parity. Nor did any of the jumper settings on the motherboard do with this either. Nor did the manual mention anything about parity. When mentioning how to add memory, it basically said "Buy them SIMM things and stick'um in them thar little slots." What I CAN tell you is that my motherboard uses AMI WinBIOS, circa 1993. WinBIOS is the one with the cutesy BIOS setup program that has a GUI that looks like Windows. The motherboard is ISA+VLB, and supports 486 and 486-Overdrive chips (i.e. it has a socket with more pins on it than a normal 486 chip). The chipset on the motherboard is OPTi (OPTi895? can't be sure until next I reboot). I have 2 4MB SIMM sticks in there now, for a total of 8 MB. I remember when I bought them that they EACH ran slightly less than $200 (around $198 or something) including CA sales tax (7.75%). (this was last year) Neither the receipt nor the memory chips themselves say whether they're parity or not, and the store doesn't have any idea either. My guess is that my system can take either parity or non-parity, since most of the "clones" are pretty non-partial about it, and some don't even check for parity errors. I apologize for asking this here, I quite simply had nowhere else to turn. If you take offense, feel free to flame me in private. Thanks for your help, and sorry I can't be a little more specific. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 07:06:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA07736 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:06:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [144.206.136.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA07728 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA29892 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:00:50 +0300 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Thu, 28 Dec 95 18:00:50 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by ache.dialup.ru (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA01245; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:55:24 +0300 (MSK) To: Sean Kelly , obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <9512281446.AA27410@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> In-Reply-To: <9512281446.AA27410@emu.fsl.noaa.gov>; from Sean Kelly at Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:46:48 -0700 Message-Id: Organization: Olahm Ha-Yetzirah Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:55:24 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: Mail/@ [v2.41 FreeBSD] From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) X-Class: Fast Subject: Re: ecu-3.38/POSIX question Lines: 21 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <9512281446.AA27410@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> Sean Kelly writes: >>>>>> "Andrey" == aka Andrey A Chernov, Black Mage writes: > Andrey> In message <9512280902.AA01712@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> > Andrey> David E. O'Brien writes: > >> Does anyone know what in the world ``CBAUD'' is? > Andrey> CBAUD must die, it is SYSVism, not POSIX >Yep ... but that probably won't help David's compile. No, I am perfectly correct, he can remove "& CBAUD" from ldserial.c absolutely safely. It is ECU author mistake. -- Andrey A. Chernov : And I rest so composedly, /Now, in my bed, ache@astral.msk.su : That any beholder /Might fancy me dead - http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me, /Thinking me dead. RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team : E.A.Poe From "For Annie" 1849 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 07:07:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA07776 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:07:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA07771 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:07:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00934; Thu, 28 Dec 95 09:14:55 CST Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 28 Dec 95 9:30:32 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 28 Dec 95 9:30:06 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:30:00 +600 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: cmdtool scrolling, owplace(1)... Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thus spake James Raynard (Wed, 27 Dec 1995): | On Tue, 26 Dec 1995, I wrote: | | > 1. I've noticed cmdtool repeats commands *infinitely* (ie: 'ls' repeatedly | > executes) and the window must be killed. shelltool with scrolling | > enabled exhibits same behavior. termcap issue? 'env' shows | > TERM=xterm. | | I usually run cmdtool from an xterm and get the opposite behaviour when I | do, for example, ls -la on my home directory - the cmdtool locks up after | the ls completes, and any further input ends up on the xterm I invoked it | from! | | There seem to be quite a few problems with the xview and olvwm ports (that's | not being critical - it must have been quite a job getting it to work at | all). Here are all the things I've done that seem to improve things:- | | 1. Change all calls to cfree() to free(). | 2. Edit all the hard-coded references to "/usr/lib/X11" (yuck!) Righto, was thinking of messing with the source... | 3. ln -s /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11 | 4. Add the following to your .profile, if you use sh/bash/ksh as your shell:- | EXTRASMENU=/usr/X11R6/lib/.text_extras_menu | OLWMMENU=/usr/X11R6/lib/openwin-menu | OPENWINHOME=/usr/X11R6 | export EXTRASMENU OLWMMNEU OPENWINHOME | | If you use csh/tcsh, add to your .cshrc instead:- | setenv EXTRASMENU /usr/X11R6/lib/.text_extras_menu | setenv OLWMMENU /usr/X11R6/lib/openwin-menu | setenv OPENWINHOME /usr/X11R6 | Thanks. Already done (except for OLWMMENU): I've got Suns at work to admin, so I can compare with them. I didn't need OLWMMENU after setting OPENWINHOME (since this is a standalone install for now, I'm making these global in /etc/csh.cshrc -- may change later). Edited openwin-menu to taste, and added some submenus, along wth my favorite xlock variants. | 5. Either copy the distribution clients/olwm/.olwmmenu to | /usr/X11R6/lib/openwin-menu or write your own (or do what I did and | steal the one that comes with Slackware! 8-) Better yet, I hacked one from the SunOS boxes... | | Further suggestions welcome as I think I've reached the point where further | investigation would require knowledge of X programming and a lot of spare | time, neither of which I have very much of 8-( | | > 2. Attempts to save workspace by adding | > "Save Workspace" SAVE_WORKSPACE | > | > to the OpenWindows system menu/submenus results in a popup basically | > stating that owplace(1) failed to execute. Assuming it's a binary, | > naturally it's not around. What package/port is it part of? | | Most of the binaries on the menu seem to be missing, presumably as Sun has | more restrictive licensing terms on them. | It was owplaces (I checked last night), and it's very similar to xlsclients (Sun manpages again), but no nice clean "write the script and put most of the apps in background mode". I can probably work around it. Now for some other neat stuff, most of you may want to ignore it. It turns out that simply hitting in cmdtool results in a flurry of prompts (my box is called gate -- very imaginative): gate# gate# gate# gate# gate# gate# gate# gate# gate# gate# gate# gate# gate# gate# and so on until , when it happily stops and waits for my next mistake. More interesting, when you pull up the pane menu (right mouse) and Text Editor -> Enable, the damn thing turns into textedit !!! Everything's there, but as luck would have it, cmdtool apparently accepts no command line args to force this behavior from the start, else I'd just christen a script 'textedit' with appropriate contents. Now I want to get at the source for this little beast. I know, I'll be sorry later, but I'm a programmer among my other dubious abilities. Even funnier, the man page for cmdtool mentions textedit (so they borrowed the manpage from Sun -- no surprise). And check the info pages in $OPENWINHOME/lib/help: workspace.info talks about the entire Sun package: filemgr, mailtool -- this is driving me nuts. OK, so what gives? Where should I take my tragic tale, XFree-questions? Is there such a thing? many thanks for the accompanying violin music, larry From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 07:18:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA08222 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:18:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hobbit.tubank.msk.su (hobbit.tubank.msk.su [194.58.146.97]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA08211 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by hobbit.tubank.msk.su (IP Labs/BSDI/386 1.0) id SAA24194; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:06:03 +0300 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:06:02 +0300 (GMT+0300) From: Alex Kluev To: Stefan Esser cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 294x problem In-Reply-To: <199512271208.AA11786@Sysiphos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I'm afraid we found the problem, and it wasn't the Adaptec's fault. Compaq's PCI controller is residing on the same addresses as the "normal" one, but differs in the identification code. Here's what we changed in /sys/i386/isa/pcibus.c : #define CONF1_ADDR_PORT 0x0cf8 #define CONF1_DATA_PORT 0x0cfc #define CONF1_ENABLE 0x80000000ul #define CONF1_ENABLE_CHK 0x80000000ul #define CONF1_ENABLE_CHK1 0xFF000001ul #define CONF1_ENABLE_MSK1 0x80000000ul #define CONF1_ENABLE_RES1 0x80000000ul #define CONF2_ENABLE_PORT 0x0cf8 #define CONF2_FORWARD_PORT 0x0cfa #ifdef COMPAQ #define CONF2_ENABLE_CHK 0x0c #define CONF2_ENABLE_RES 0x0c #else #define CONF2_ENABLE_CHK 0x0e #define CONF2_ENABLE_RES 0x0e #endif Of course we had to add "options COMPAQ" to the config file. We wonder if there could be another way to fix this problem. Could anybody work out a patch or something, because none of us had any experience with PCI until a few days ago when the problem arised, and we don't have any documentation. Another question is : how to make an installation floppy with a modified kernel? Regards, Alex Kluev Denis Talonin On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Stefan Esser wrote: > > Sorry for the late reply! > > I'll try to get you going ... > > Please send VERBOSE boot messages (obtained > by '-v' entered at the 'Boot: ' prompt), at > least of the PCI probe: > > pcibus_setup(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000 > pcibus_setup(1a): mode1res=0x00000000 (0x80000000) > pcibus_setup(1b): mode1res=0x00000000 (0xff000001) > pcibus_setup(2): mode 2 enable port (0x0cf8) is 0x00 > pcibus_setup(2a): mode2res=0x0e (0x0e) > pcibus_setup(2a): now trying mechanism 2 > pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=04838086) > Probing for devices on the PCI bus: > configuration mode 2 allows 16 devices. > chip0 rev 4 on pci0:0 > CPU: 486DX2 or 486DX4, bus=33MHz, CPU->Memory posting ON > Warning: NO cache parity! NO DRAM parity! > Cache: 256KB writethrough, cache clocks=2-1-1-1 > DRAM: page mode code fetch, read and write, memory clocks=X-1-2-1 > CPU->PCI: posting ON, burst mode ON > PCI->Memory: posting ON > ncr0 rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci0:1 > mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000e800 size=0100. > mapreg[14] type=0 addr=fbfef000 size=0100. > reg20: virtual=0xf2cfa000 physical=0xfbfef000 size=0x100 > > I need the contents (at least ALL numbers) > of all lines starting with pcibus_setup() or > pcibus_check. And additionally lines like > those for chip0 or ncr0 above ... > > Regards, STefan > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- + Alex Kluev ..."The life is a short warm moment, + + Internet: alex@tubank.msk.su And the death is a long cold rest..."+ + Phone: +7 (095) 330-1080 Pink Floyd "Obscured by clouds" + + Fax: +7 (095) 330-6793 + + PGP Key fingerprint = 2E 46 74 FB D1 B4 E4 63 D3 9D A1 16 2B F0 F3 6B + +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 07:33:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA09129 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:33:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from jack.colorado.edu (jack.Colorado.EDU [128.138.149.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09113 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:33:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from jack (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jack.colorado.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12/CNS-3.6) with SMTP id IAA03290; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 08:29:23 -0700 Message-ID: <30E2B7D3.BA9@Colorado.EDU> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 08:29:23 -0700 From: "Mark G. M. O'Lear" Organization: University of Colorado X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maksim Stolyarov CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help! Problem with root shell :( References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Type 'cat /etc/fstab' you will see something like: /dev/wd0s3b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/wd0a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/wd0s2e /usr ufs rw 1 1 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 find the line with the / in the second column (/dev/wd0a / ufs rw 1 1 in this example) type 'mount /dev/wd0a /' (or whatever the first two columns of your line says) this will re-mount the / partition as rw. Now you can do whatever you want to do with rw access. Mark O'Lear Mark.Olear@Colorado.EDU Maksim Stolyarov wrote: > Accidentally I've changed root shell to *non-existent* one. > vipw honestly warned about it. I stupidly missed the event. > Evidently I can not login neither as root nor as su now. > I rebooted the box into single mode (boot -s) in oder to > correct my mistake with vipw. BUT > > In single mode / is mounted in my system as readonly! And > I can do nothing with ``writable tools'' like vipw. > > Ideas? What should I change for mounting / as RW in single mode? > > Please send mail to mns@lpi.ac.ru because I can not even > start my home uucp to get mails (including FBSD ones) from > my Institute :( > > Specifics: FreeBSD 2.1 (great System, really) > > Thank you in advance, best wishes, > > Maksim. > --- > Maksim N. Stolyarov -> mns@lpi.ac.ru <- > Department of Theoretical Physics, > Lebedev Physical Institute, RAS > Leninskii 53, 117924, Moscow, Russia > fax: +7(95)135-8533, tel: +7(95)132-6024 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 07:51:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA10106 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA10101 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 07:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA20618; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:50:52 +0100 Message-Id: <199512281550.QAA20618@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: ecu-3.38/POSIX question To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:50:51 +0100 (MET) Cc: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu, ache@astral.msk.su, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9512281446.AA27410@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> from "Sean Kelly" at Dec 28, 95 07:46:48 am From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > >>>>> "Andrey" == aka Andrey A Chernov, Black Mage writes: > > Andrey> In message <9512280902.AA01712@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> > Andrey> David E. O'Brien writes: > > >> Does anyone know what in the world ``CBAUD'' is? > > Andrey> CBAUD must die, it is SYSVism, not POSIX > > Yep ... but that probably won't help David's compile. > > CBAUD is a mask to extract the output (or both input/output?) bps rate > in the c_cflag field of the termios structure. On FreeBSD, there are > separate speed fields. ..and you can use c_getspeed/c_setspeed() in place of the masking technique. (^^ off memory). > > -- > Sean Kelly > NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA > > Picard walks up to the replicator and says, "Coke on ice." > -- One of 46 things that never happen on Star Trek > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 08:07:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA12189 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 08:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA12181 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 08:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA02954 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:06:34 +0100 Message-Id: <199512281606.AA02954@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:06:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: Alex Kluev "Re: Adaptec 294x problem" (Dec 28, 18:06) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Alex Kluev Subject: Re: Adaptec 294x problem Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Dec 28, 18:06, Alex Kluev wrote: } Subject: Re: Adaptec 294x problem } Hi! } } I'm afraid we found the problem, and it wasn't the Adaptec's fault. } Compaq's PCI controller is residing on the same addresses as the "normal" } one, but differs in the identification code. Here's what we changed in } /sys/i386/isa/pcibus.c : Well, I seem to remember having asked for verbose boot messages. It's wonderful, that you found a way to make the PCI probe work on your system, but there would have been a much simpler way to achieve this, and that would have been to not do the probe, but directly return the specific results for your system ... Compaq PCI chip sets have been broken in similar ways for a long time, and I received a reply from Compaq, that this is taken care of in their PCI BIOS. That's fine, but we don't rely on any PCI BIOS, since there are more broken PCI BIOS versions than broken PCI chip sets. } Of course we had to add "options COMPAQ" to the config file. We wonder if } there could be another way to fix this problem. Could anybody work out a } patch or something, because none of us had any experience with PCI until a } few days ago when the problem arised, and we don't have any documentation. Yes. And this anybody might be me. But if you don't send the information I ask for, there is nothing I can do ... } Another question is : how to make an installation floppy with a modified } kernel? Building the "official" boot floppies is a complex and time consuming process. but it is in fact possible to create a BSD FFS on a floppy, copy /kernel and a few other required files over, and boot from this floppy. Don't ask for details, I didn't try it recently ... Regards, STefan } On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Stefan Esser wrote: } > Please send VERBOSE boot messages (obtained } > by '-v' entered at the 'Boot: ' prompt), at } > least of the PCI probe: } > } > pcibus_setup(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000 } > pcibus_setup(1a): mode1res=0x00000000 (0x80000000) } > pcibus_setup(1b): mode1res=0x00000000 (0xff000001) } > pcibus_setup(2): mode 2 enable port (0x0cf8) is 0x00 } > pcibus_setup(2a): mode2res=0x0e (0x0e) } > pcibus_setup(2a): now trying mechanism 2 } > pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=04838086) -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 08:21:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA13311 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 08:21:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA13299 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 08:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA16248; Thu, 28 Dec 95 10:20:37 -0600 Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA01315; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:20:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:20:36 -0700 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9512281620.AA01315@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: Mark.Olear@colorado.edu Cc: mns@td.lpi.ac.ru, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <30E2B7D3.BA9@Colorado.EDU> (Mark.Olear@colorado.edu) Subject: Re: Help! Problem with root shell :( Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Mark" == Mark G M O'Lear writes: Mark> type 'mount /dev/wd0a /' Or just `mount /' since it appears in /etc/fstab. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA If you want to be the most popular person in your class, whenever the professor pauses in his lecture, just let out a big snort and say "How do you figger that!" real loud. Then lean back and sort of smirk. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 09:03:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA17245 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17239 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [204.177.193.231] (n4hhe.ampr.org [204.177.193.231]) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.9 Secure) with SMTP id LAA05531; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:03:32 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:02:54 -0600 To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org From: dkelly@iquest.com (David Kelly) Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Michael Smith said about NCR BIOS: > >Funny, we only have one of them in an ASUS board; the rest are in a >variety of J-random Triton PCI motherboards, mostly Soyo and Expert (the >Expert boards are crap, but they're relatively cheap). > >All of these have the NCR bios; in fact, I haven't met a PCI motherboard >on sale here yet that doesn't. YMMV. What does NCR (now Symbios) bios support *look* like? My Nexgen PCI-90 as AMI bios but nothing within its pretty graphic-windowed setup suggests support of an NCR/Symbios SCSI card. Recently checked a PCI/VL-bus 486 w/ AMI bios whose setup looked just like my Nexgen except for the addition of some kind of EPA crap. In another discussion elsewhere it was suggested that some NCR/Symbios-based cards come with a bios support module (on floppy) that can be combinded with your FLASH bios image and written into the motherboard FLASH bios. Also hear this often trashes your FLASH bios making the system totally unusable. As for myself, found a "used" 2940 with no documentation or software (but looked like it was new in the factory anti-static bag) for $125. -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@iquest.com ============================================================= To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. -- Thomas Edison From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 09:09:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA17549 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17530 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01374; Thu, 28 Dec 95 11:17:01 CST Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 28 Dec 95 11:32:40 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 28 Dec 95 11:32:25 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:32:18 +600 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Thus spake Doug White (Wed, 27 Dec 1995): | On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Michael Smith wrote: | | > Bollocks, and a complete waste of money. Spend less than $100 on an NCR | > 53C810-based SCSI controller, and treat yourself to a nice dinner on the | > change. The NCR chips are troopers, and perform just as well. | | I'm trying to find one of these fabled controllers. I don't see anything | by NCR. Are they hidden in someone else's products? | ------------------------------ begin snip -------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 23:48:44 -0400 From: Michel Joly de Lotbiniere People constantly say that the best inexpensive PCI SCSI busmastering cards are those using the NCR 53C810 (or whatever the part number is), but even there, your're best advised to buy an original NCR card: Symbios Logic PCI Host Bus Adapter SYM8150S (with BIOS) or SYM8100S (without BIOS, for MBs with the SDMS bios) NCR Microelectronics is now independant: Symbios Logic 1-800-334-5454 ------------------------------- end snip---------------------------------- I called them, and they'll be happy to tell you who handles them in your area. In my case it was a convoluted thing done through my company (I should've asked for more numbers). I'm sure it'll be easier for the rest of you. hth, larry From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 09:18:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA17958 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from spanky.ov.com (spanky.pls.ov.com [198.153.190.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17953 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sammy.pls.ov.com by spanky.ov.com with SMTP on Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:16:37 -0800 Received: from bart.engr.master by sammy.pls.ov.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00351; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:14:56 -0800 Received: by bart.engr.master (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA05332; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:14:12 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:14:12 -0800 From: radha@sammy.pls.ov.com (Radha) Message-Id: <199512281714.JAA05332@bart.engr.master> To: Mark.Olear@colorado.edu, kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Subject: Re: Help! Problem with root shell :( Cc: mns@td.lpi.ac.ru, questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: BDrLHfCwWqQYtqf18iyyHw== Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Thu Dec 28 08:55 PST 1995 > Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:20:36 -0700 > From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) > To: Mark.Olear@colorado.edu > Cc: mns@td.lpi.ac.ru, questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Help! Problem with root shell :( > > >>>>> "Mark" == Mark G M O'Lear writes: > > Mark> type 'mount /dev/wd0a /' > > Or just `mount /' since it appears in /etc/fstab. > Or should it really be "mount -u /" as it appears in /etc/rc ?? > -- > Sean Kelly > NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory, Boulder Colorado USA > > If you want to be the most popular person in your class, whenever the > professor pauses in his lecture, just let out a big snort and say "How > do you figger that!" real loud. Then lean back and sort of smirk. > -- Jack Handey ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Radha Krishnan Tel: (510)-426-3623 Sr. Q.A Engineer. E-Mail: Radha.Krishnan@ov.com OpenVision radha@ccnet.com (Home) Pleasanton, CA 94566 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 09:23:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA18132 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:23:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from titan (titan.cs.mci.com [166.37.12.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18127 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:23:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:22:33 -0700 Message-Id: <95122810223289@titan.cs.mci.com> From: tst@titan.cs.mci.com (Thomas S. Traylor) To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nec cdrom X-VMS-To: SMTP%"msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au" X-VMS-Cc: smtp%"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk |Peter Wemm stands accused of saying: |> I've been fighting with a "Model: CDR-55JD" NEC drive for the last few |> days. This drive and I have reached an understanding.. We both HATE |> each other. | |I bought an NEC CD drive some time ago; it was so much of a crock that I was |forced to return it & replace it with a Matsushita unit. NEC admitted that |(despite their marketing claiming it was a SCSI-2 unit) it was only a |"pseudo-scsi" (their words) drive that would only work properly with their |drivers. I haven't had any problems with my NEC CDROM drive since I have had it. It is a CDR-501, a 4x SCSI internal. It has worked well with FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 to 2.1. I'm currently running it off of a Adaptec 2940 and use to use it on an Adaptec 1542cf. |I couldn't get it work under 2.0R, or on a Mac, or my old Atari TT, or |even under DOS (I bought the drive bare). I have had no problems with it using it with DOS, Windows 3.1, or Windows 95. |I have no faith whatsoever in NEC's ability to produce SCSI CD units, so |reading about your problems doesn't surprise much 8) | |> I *hate* that drive... If the other NEC drives are like it too, I'll |> be very reluctant to touch them ever again. | |This is my experience. | |> BTW: I, too, would dearly love to know what the other jumpers are for. |> I suspect #5 or #6 is termination enable, but I'm not sure. | |My guess is termination enable terminator power to the bus; you can check |this easily enough with a beep-meter. If I recall right one of these was for termination, but I don't recall which and what the other was for. I still have the manual for the CDR-501, but I'm not at the same place it is. So if you would like to know what they are for drop me some email and I'll get you that information. |> -Peter | |-- |]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ |]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ |]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ |]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ |]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ Thomas Traylor tst@titan.cs.mci.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 09:24:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA18247 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from iquest1.iquest.net (iquest1.iquest.net [206.27.192.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18242 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:24:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from iquest.net by iquest1.iquest.net with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #11) id m0tVM46-000BBxC; Thu, 28 Dec 95 12:24 EST Received: from ts00-ind-23.iquest.net by iquest.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #16) id m0tVM44-000345C; Thu, 28 Dec 95 12:24 EST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Dec 95 12:24 EST X-Sender: ironmixer@pop.iquest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: ironmixer@iquest.net (Scott Iseminger) Subject: PPP startup Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to setup PPP on version 2.0 of FreeBSD but I'm running into problems. I've tried the kermit example in the faq/ppp.doc file, for establishing the PPP connection, but have come up empty. (I've also tried using "chat"). I keep getting "PPP is not available on this system" after I successfully login to the system providing PPP. I know that kermit closes the serial port when it exits, so I have tried using "run" and "redirect" with pppd with no success. I'm using c-kermit 5A(190). Any suggestions??? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 09:54:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19557 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19546 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id JAA21781 for (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:54:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512281754.JAA21781@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:54:05 -0800 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Thanks for replies Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi All: Thank you for the replies in response to my install questions. I used bits of a couple of the replies to figure out what I should have been doing. 2.1 looks fantastic! Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 09:55:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19612 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from picspc01.pics.com ([192.135.189.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19607 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 09:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.135.189.21] (picsnt01.pics.com [192.135.189.21]) by picspc01.pics.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA03353; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:54:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199512281754.MAA03353@picspc01.pics.com> To: Scott Iseminger Subject: Re: PPP startup Date: Thu, 28 Dec 95 12:52:00 -0500 From: Terry Rossi X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 CC: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -- [ From: Terry Rossi * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- I believe that this is because ppp is not compiled into your kernel. You need to add the ppp psuedo device to the kernel config and make a new kernel From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 10:01:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20023 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20011 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id KAA22136 for (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:01:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512281801.KAA22136@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:00:47 -0800 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Problem with NCSA httpd v1.5 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a very minor problem with NCSA httpd 1.5 running on FBSD 2.1: When I run a cgi program written in C (as opposed to a shell script), and that program uses environment variables (such as SERVER_PORT or CONTENT_LENGTH) that should be set by httpd prior to doing an execve, the environment variables get lost and are NOT set by the time my program is invoked. Calls to getenv() return NULL for all of these variables. As a result some custom scripts that I wrote are all broken. They all ran fine under FreeBSD 1.1. Of course I've recompiled httpd and the scripts for 2.1. This may in fact be NCSA's problem, but I wonder first if there's anything specific that I have to do or change in the configuration of 2.1 that affects how environment variables are passed to programs started by execve??? In the meantime I'm modifying httpd to generate some debug info verifying that the variables get set prior to the exec call. Any thoughts or suggestions? Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 10:09:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20449 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from luke.pmr.com (luke.pmr.com [199.98.84.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20444 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.pmr.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA15982 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:09:02 -0600 From: Bob Willcox Message-Id: <199512281809.MAA15982@luke.pmr.com> Subject: Setting up a gateway machine? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:09:02 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I am trying to setup one of my systems to serve as a gateway machine between two ethernet networks. (Note: I am, relatively, a netorking novice :-() I have built the kernel with the "GATEWAY" option, but obviously have to do more than just that. (Since it still will not forward packets from one network to the other). The (to be) gateway machine can talk to systems on both networks, it just doesn't seem to want to do the forwarding Thanks for any help or pointers, -- Bob Willcox bob@luke.pmr.com (or obiwan%bob@uunet.uu.net) Austin, TX From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 10:11:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20549 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from else (root@else.net [204.92.4.245]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20542 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by else (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tVMoY-000MIZC; Thu, 28 Dec 95 13:12 EST Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:12:30 -0500 (EST) From: James FitzGibbon To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Commandline switch vty ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of a way to change the current vty from the command line ? I'd like to have a client's system I'm building have one vty, and switch to it's login prompt automatically upon bootup (there is no ttyv0, just console and ttyv1) j. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 10:13:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA20711 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20706 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:13:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-7.net7f.io.org [204.92.53.7]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA10078 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:13:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:13:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199512281813.NAA10078@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Stephen Couchman Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to setup a PPP connection from my FreeBSD system to my ISP. I am trying to use dynamic IP with either kernel PPP (pppd) or user ppp. I am not having much luck with either! :-(( When I try using pppd, my ISP and my system try to negotiate the connection, but my ISP eventually hangs up. I am using PPP and Trumpet Winsock on my PC with my ISP with no problems. I have tried the suggestions in the Handbook, but I guess I need more hand-holding! :-(( Any help, suggestions, sample FreeBSD setup files (/etc/ppp/options, et al) would be MOST appreciated. Thanks -- Stephen ______________________________ Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 10:25:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA21153 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from quip.eecs.umich.edu (dmuntz@quip.eecs.umich.edu [141.212.99.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21142 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:25:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dmuntz@localhost) by quip.eecs.umich.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2) id NAA05767; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:25:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:25:25 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Muntz Message-Id: <199512281825.NAA05767@quip.eecs.umich.edu> To: kevin@cyberport.com Subject: Re: pcmcia modem Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Would you mind posting that code, or posting an FTP URL, or > e-mailing the code? I hate the idea of going to linux just > to support my pcmcia modem. I'm sure lots of other people > feel the same way! I just posted the code to comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc. It's also available at: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~kuno/freebsd.html -Dan From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 10:57:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA22490 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:57:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-02.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22481 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 10:57:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA09613; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:00:28 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:00:24 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: Scott Iseminger cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP startup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Scott Iseminger wrote: > I'm trying to setup PPP on version 2.0 of FreeBSD but I'm running into > problems. I've tried the kermit example in the faq/ppp.doc file, for > establishing the PPP connection, but have come up empty. (I've also tried > using "chat"). > > I keep getting "PPP is not available on this system" after I successfully login > to the system providing PPP. > > I know that kermit closes the serial port when it exits, so I have tried > using "run" and "redirect" with pppd with no success. > > I'm using c-kermit 5A(190). Any suggestions??? Sounds like you kernel doesn't have PPP support compiled in. Add the line: pseudo-device ppp 1 to your kernel config file and rebuild. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 11:17:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA23569 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.ios.com (root@haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23562 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from michles@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA21717; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:09:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:09:32 -0500 (EST) From: Emil Mikhles To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3940W adaptec problem.... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have two Seagate drives, (Fast Wide), which are 4 GB's each..., and they are on seperate channels on the controller. Will it be necessary to put it on the first channel, or could FreeBSd, recognize the second one as well? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 11:26:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA24301 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24288 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:26:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01481; Thu, 28 Dec 95 13:33:55 CST Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 28 Dec 95 13:49:36 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 28 Dec 95 13:49:14 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:49:10 +600 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk | Date sent: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:14:20 -0500 (EST) | From: James FitzGibbon | To: Larry Dolinar | Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? | On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Larry Dolinar wrote: | | > | > 53C810-based SCSI controller, and treat yourself to a nice dinner on the | > | > change. The NCR chips are troopers, and perform just as well. | > | | > | I'm trying to find one of these fabled controllers. I don't see anything | > | by NCR. Are they hidden in someone else's products? | | ASUS makes them under the name SC-200 (or perhaps 2000) for about $100 CDN. | | | j. | Maybe I goofed, but none of the above looks like my prose. The ASUS card AKAIK, has *no bios*, so be quite sure the motherboard already has NCR BIOS as a feature. Found the same to be true of the DTC PCI SCSI (model# escapes me). The ASUS SC-200 also uses jumpers for some features, unlike the NCR card. regards, larry From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 11:35:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA25234 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:35:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25221 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01502; Thu, 28 Dec 95 13:42:50 CST Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 28 Dec 95 13:58:30 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 28 Dec 95 13:58:28 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:58:19 +600 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: what does NCR support look like? Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thus spake dkelly@iquest.com (David Kelly) (Thu, 28 Dec 1995): | Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? | Copies to: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au | Michael Smith said about NCR BIOS: | > | >Funny, we only have one of them in an ASUS board; the rest are in a | >variety of J-random Triton PCI motherboards, mostly Soyo and Expert (the | >Expert boards are crap, but they're relatively cheap). | > | >All of these have the NCR bios; in fact, I haven't met a PCI motherboard | >on sale here yet that doesn't. YMMV. | | What does NCR (now Symbios) bios support *look* like? My Nexgen PCI-90 as | AMI bios but nothing within its pretty graphic-windowed setup suggests | support of an NCR/Symbios SCSI card. Recently checked a PCI/VL-bus 486 w/ | AMI bios whose setup looked just like my Nexgen except for the addition of | some kind of EPA crap. You should get text with NCR and a version number (mine's 3.04.00 I think) with drive C: set to not installed, however (I'm guessing wildly) the card probably has to be installed (probably wouldn't want that stuff popping up just any old time). I can check mine at home tonite -- pull the card and fire it up to see what screaming it does. Most well behaved BIOS's should have some entry about disabling on-board support if it's incorporated. | | In another discussion elsewhere it was suggested that some | NCR/Symbios-based cards come with a bios support module (on floppy) that | can be combinded with your FLASH bios image and written into the | motherboard FLASH bios. Also hear this often trashes your FLASH bios making | the system totally unusable. Agreed; who's to say what makes for mixing binary contents and making it come out right -- that's why I never mess with non-BIOS SCSI cards. | | As for myself, found a "used" 2940 with no documentation or software (but | looked like it was new in the factory anti-static bag) for $125. | Probably the OEM version (no kit: cables, software, or docs). Good price, though. Just the plain brown wrapper. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 12:39:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA27904 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from winky.reno.nv.us (winky.reno.nv.us [140.174.194.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27898 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winky.reno.nv.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA02114; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:39:18 -0800 Message-Id: <199512282039.MAA02114@winky.reno.nv.us> X-Authentication-Warning: winky.reno.nv.us: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: ofarook <721.4992@mcimail.com> cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WINDOWS NT BOOT MANAGER & FREEBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Dec 1995 01:59:10 CST." <30E24E4E.68FA@mcimail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:39:16 -0800 From: Eric Blood Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <30E24E4E.68FA@mcimail.com>you write: >Hi, > >I recently got a FREEBSD 2.1 CDROM FROM Walnut Creek. >I have two hard disks and I have both Windows NT 3.5 >and Windows 95 with NT BOOT LOADER (dual booting). >isk 1 has only one primary partition with WIN95 >and Disk 2 one primary partition with win NT (700M). >I created another primary partition in Disk 2 for FREEBSD >and tried to install it, but hard luck. > >My questions are > >1. With above configuration, can I install FREEBSD. I have a similar configuration. Mine was two SCSI 1 gig disks. The first was all Win 95 (still the beta June release; I can't bring myself to pay for it). The second disk was all FreeBSD. Then I split the Win95 and installed Windows NT. I noticed that it's dual boot program installed its self on the first partitions boot point. So my existing boot manager (OSBS) would ask for FreeBSD or Win95 and then I would get a secondary boot menu (when I go to Win95) asking for NT or Win95. The problem I have is that I cant get rid of that stupid secondary menu even though I reclaimed the NT partition. Fdisk /MBR doesn't hack it. Any ideas? So, in short, yes it will work. >3. If am doing something wrong, How do I make FREEBSD co-exist with > NT Loader and add it as one of menu option for NT boot manager? I wouldn't trust that NT loader. Good luck. Eric Blood eblood@cs.unr.edu, http://www.cs.unr.edu/~eblood From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 12:58:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA28923 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:58:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA28918 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:58:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA02355; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:54:45 -0600 Message-Id: <9512282054.AA02355@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:54:45 -0600 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: michles@haven.ios.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3940W adaptec problem.... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I have two Seagate drives, (Fast Wide), which are 4 GB's each..., >and they are on seperate channels on the controller. Will it be necessary >to put it on the first channel, or could FreeBSd, recognize the second >one as well? I think that FreeBSD will see the 3940W as two separate controllers, so you'll probably need two ahc entries (ahc0 and ahc1) in your kernel config file. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 13:14:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA29738 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from winky.reno.nv.us (winky.reno.nv.us [140.174.194.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29728 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winky.reno.nv.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA02322; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:13:48 -0800 Message-Id: <199512282113.NAA02322@winky.reno.nv.us> X-Authentication-Warning: winky.reno.nv.us: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: James FitzGibbon cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Commandline switch vty ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:12:30 EST." Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:13:48 -0800 From: Eric Blood Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message you write: >Does anyone know of a way to change the current vty from the command line? Upon examining the source for syscons (/usr/src/sys/i386/isa/syscons.c), it recognizes ANSI character sequences. One of the codes is ESC[nz. This will change to the nth console. With this following program, you can switch to a given console at the command line: escape.c void main(int argc, char **argv) { if (argc == 2) printf("%c%s\n", '\x1b', argv[1]); } In order to switch to the second console (ttyv1) you would do "escape [1z". Good luck. Eric Blood eblood@cs.unr.edu, http://www.cs.unr.edu/~eblood From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 13:51:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA02360 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02354 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA12336; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:51:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA00685; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:51:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512282151.NAA00685@corbin.Root.COM> To: Justin Seger cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing trouble In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 27 Dec 95 16:16:41 EST." <199512272116.QAA25912@iii1.iii.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:51:42 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I have a SLIP connection (sl0), and an ethernet connection (ed0) and am trying >to route packets between the two. I am currently running FreeBSD 2.1.0. I can >ping machines on either connection from my FreeBSD machine and can ping the sl0 >device (199.232.44.242) from the internet, and I can ping both ed0 >(199.232.47.49) and sl0 (199.232.44.242) from a windows '95 (199.232.47.51). >I was assigned the following from my intenet provider: >SLIP Account IP Address: 199.232.44.242 >Subnet: 199.232.47.48 >Netmask: 255.255.255.240 >Broadcast: 199.232.47.63 >Addresses: 199.232.47.49-199.232.47.62 > >Here's the output of 'ifconfig ed0' >ed0: flags=8863 mtu 1500 > inet 199.232.47.49 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 199.232.47.63 > ether 00:40:33:30:b1:cd > >and 'ifconfig sl0' >sl0: flags=d011 mtu 552 > inet 199.232.44.242 --> 199.232.46.33 netmask 0xffffff00 > >I would REALLY appreciate any help you can give me. If we assume that your service provider is routing packets for your 199.232.47 address, then the problem might be that IP forwarding isn't enabled in your router. Do a "sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding" and see if it is set to "1". If not, then so a "sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1". Also make sure that you have a default route to your router on your ethernet connected hosts. ...and make sure you have a default route pointing to the destination address of your SLIP connection, e.g.: defaultrouter=199.232.46.33 ...in /etc/sysconfig. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 13:55:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA02645 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02639 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:55:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA12350; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:55:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA00706; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:55:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512282155.NAA00706@corbin.Root.COM> To: "Maksim Stolyarov" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help! Problem with root shell :( In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Dec 95 11:19:45 +0300." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 13:55:16 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > 2. Alarm! (or BEDA! in Russian :) Please help! > Situation: > > Accidentally I've changed root shell to *non-existent* one. > vipw honestly warned about it. I stupidly missed the event. > Evidently I can not login neither as root nor as su now. > I rebooted the box into single mode (boot -s) in oder to > correct my mistake with vipw. BUT > > In single mode / is mounted in my system as readonly! And > I can do nothing with ``writable tools'' like vipw. > > Ideas? What should I change for mounting / as RW in single mode? Do a "mount -u /" and "TERM=cons25; export TERM". You should then be able to use vipw. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 14:01:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA03183 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:01:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03175 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:01:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA12382; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:01:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA00731; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:01:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512282201.OAA00731@corbin.Root.COM> To: Justin Seger cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing trouble In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Dec 95 13:51:42 PST." <199512282151.NAA00685@corbin.Root.COM> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:01:49 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>I would REALLY appreciate any help you can give me. > > If we assume that your service provider is routing packets for your >199.232.47 address, then the problem might be that IP forwarding isn't enabled >in your router. Do a "sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding" and see if it is set to >"1". If not, then so a "sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1". Also make sure >that you have a default route to your router on your ethernet connected hosts. >...and make sure you have a default route pointing to the destination address >of your SLIP connection, e.g.: > >defaultrouter=199.232.46.33 > >...in /etc/sysconfig. ...on your router of course. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 14:08:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA03515 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:08:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from prosun.first.gmd.de (prosun.first.gmd.de [192.35.150.136]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03466 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:08:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebsd.first.gmd.de by prosun.first.gmd.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06293; Thu, 28 Dec 95 23:07:58 +0100 Received: by freebsd.first.gmd.de (VAA03360); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:53:42 +0100 From: Andreas Schulz Message-Id: <199512292053.VAA03360@freebsd.first.gmd.de> Subject: Re: 3940W adaptec problem.... To: deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org (Daniel M. Eischen) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:53:41 +0059 (MET) Cc: michles@haven.ios.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9512282054.AA02355@iworks.InterWorks.org> from "Daniel M. Eischen" at Dec 28, 95 02:54:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I have two Seagate drives, (Fast Wide), which are 4 GB's each..., > >and they are on seperate channels on the controller. Will it be necessary > >to put it on the first channel, or could FreeBSd, recognize the second > >one as well? > > I think that FreeBSD will see the 3940W as two separate controllers, so > you'll probably need two ahc entries (ahc0 and ahc1) in your kernel > config file. I don't think so. The 2742 EISA two channel controller works with ahc0 and looks at both channels. You don't need a second ahc entry in your kernel. I don't have anything on the second channel in the moment, hence the empty second probe: ahc0: at 0x4c00-0x4cff irq 11 on eisa0 slot 4 ahc0: 274x Twin Channel, A SCSI Id=7, B SCSI Id=7, 4 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc0:0:0): "FUJITSU M2694ES-512 811F" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1033MB (2117025 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:1:0): "TOSHIBA MK538FB 6030" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 1172MB (2400302 512 byte sectors) ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle ATS ( ats@first.gmd.de or ats@cs.tu-berlin.de ) Andreas Schulz GMD-FIRST 12489 Berlin-Adlershof Rudower Chaussee 5 Gebaeude 13.10 Tel: +49-30-6392-1856/+49-177-2134745 Germany/Europe From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 14:12:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA03713 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:12:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.os.com ([199.232.47.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03708 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:11:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from craigs@localhost) by venus.os.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA10469; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:12:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:12:36 -0500 (EST) From: Craig Shrimpton To: David Greenman cc: Justin Seger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing trouble In-Reply-To: <199512282151.NAA00685@corbin.Root.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, David Greenman wrote: > If we assume that your service provider is routing packets for your > 199.232.47 address, then the problem might be that IP forwarding isn't enabled > in your router. Do a "sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding" and see if it is set to No, I know this provider. You have to broadcast RIP packets for your network route to the Portmaster to get returns. -Craig From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 14:21:34 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA04435 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:21:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04421 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA12440; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:21:21 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA03498; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:21:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512282221.OAA03498@corbin.Root.COM> To: Craig Shrimpton cc: Justin Seger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing trouble In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Dec 95 17:12:36 EST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:21:26 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, David Greenman wrote: > >> If we assume that your service provider is routing packets for your >> 199.232.47 address, then the problem might be that IP forwarding isn't enabled >> in your router. Do a "sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding" and see if it is set to > >No, I know this provider. You have to broadcast RIP packets for your >network route to the Portmaster to get returns. Okay, then you'll have to also enable routed by setting: routedflags="" in /etc/sysconfig. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 14:31:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA05005 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.144]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04996 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:31:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00234; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:26:32 -0800 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:26:31 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Stephen Couchman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199512281813.NAA10078@io.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: > I am trying to setup a PPP connection from my FreeBSD system to my ISP. I am > trying to use dynamic IP with either kernel PPP (pppd) or user ppp. ok. IMHO ijppp is the way to go -- much more feedback. > I am not having much luck with either! :-(( Welcome aboard :-) > When I try using pppd, my ISP and my system try to negotiate the connection, > but my ISP eventually hangs up. I am using PPP and Trumpet Winsock on my PC > with my ISP with no problems. Hm. I haven't used kernel mode ppp much (i was luckily steered away in the final moments to ijppp), but in ijppp this would indicate a chat script problem, ie your script doesn't get you logged in enough to get ppp up and either pppd or your ISP gives up. > I have tried the suggestions in the Handbook, but I guess I need more > hand-holding! :-(( That's what we're here for :-) > Any help, suggestions, sample FreeBSD setup files (/etc/ppp/options, et > al) would be MOST appreciated. If you want I can put up my ijppp ppp.conf as an example. The 'simplesite' definition is pretty close to what I am using, with just modifications to the chat script and phone number. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 14:40:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA05434 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05428 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id OAA04993 for (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:40:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512282240.OAA04993@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:39:55 -0800 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: How to re-run sysinstall? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How do I re-run sysinstall? I shut down to single user mode, cd-ed to /stand, and ran ./sysinstall. This started a nice screen on VTY2, but the arrow and function keys don't work. F1 doesn't work either. Any docs on sysinstall available? I've checked the FAQ already... Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 14:54:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA05974 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA05968 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA06330 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:53:49 +0100 Message-Id: <199512282253.AA06330@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:53:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: Jeff Bewley "Re: Install probs: NCRc810/HP drive?" (Dec 24, 0:41) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Jeff Bewley Subject: Re: Install probs: NCRc810/HP drive? Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Dec 24, 0:41, Jeff Bewley wrote: } Subject: Re: Install probs: NCRc810/HP drive? } I managed to use the scroll-lock to get a copy of the messages } as the install disk starts up, but the messages after I select } "Quit" fly by *way* too fast to even focus on. (They're the } ones with the COMMAND ABORTED in them): } --- } ncr0 rev 2 int a irq 10 on pci:0:10 } ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle } (ncr0:0:0) "HP C3725S 4299" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 } scd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct Access } scd0(ncr0:0:0): FAST SCSI-@ 100ns (10 mb/sec) offset 8 } 2069MB (4238836 512 byte sectors) } (ncr0:1:0) "MATSHITA CD-ROM CR-504 ST22" type 5 removable SCSI 2 } cd0(ncr0:1:0): 200ns (5MB/sec) offset 8 } cd present.[308956x2048 byte records] } --- } } I'm becoming more and more convinced that this is a hardware problem } on my end, but I'm not sure where to look. The box is less than } a month, old, so a marginal NCR card or PCI bus might be to blame.(?) } You'd think, though, that Win95 or Linux would choke on either of } those two problems. Strange. (win95 scandisk found 500k of bad } blocks on the HP drive, which worries me a bit) Hmm, 500.000 bad blocks on a single drive ??? Guess you really got some hardware problem ... Can you try a more recent kernel ? A few small changes have gone into the NCR driver, and one particular fix might help in your case. I don't currently understand, why it might make a difference, but it is reported to have helped in one other case where the system didn't work reliable. I could send you a patch, or make a kernel available via FTP. Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 14:56:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA06123 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:56:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06058 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 14:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id RAA24299; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:54:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id RAA06274; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:54:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:54:53 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@espresso.eng.umd.edu To: Michael Smith cc: Peter Wemm , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nec cdrom In-Reply-To: <199512280238.NAA00576@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > I have no faith whatsoever in NEC's ability to produce SCSI CD units, so > reading about your problems doesn't surprise much 8) > > > I *hate* that drive... If the other NEC drives are like it too, I'll > > be very reluctant to touch them ever again. > > This is my experience. > > > BTW: I, too, would dearly love to know what the other jumpers are for. > > I suspect #5 or #6 is termination enable, but I'm not sure. > > My guess is termination enable terminator power to the bus; you can check > this easily enough with a beep-meter. (Just back from a couple days off) Well, I want to get this NEC CDR-210 working, it no one tells me that it's Black Death. I'm calling NEC, maybe they'll tell me about option pins 4-6. Here's the phone numbers I have: NEC ....................... Sales & Info .......... 800-632-4636 NEC ....................... T/S ................... 708-860-0335 NEC ....................... Tech Support ..BBS..... 508-635-4706 NEC ....................... Tech Support ..fax..... 708-860-5475 NEC ....................... Tech Support ..faxback. 800-366-0476 NEC ....................... Tech Support ..General. 800-388-8888 This's gonna sound stupid, but I don't know a lot about SCSI; do I want to have the cdrom actively terminated, if the option pins allow it? I have an Adaptec 2842, BTW. Thanks, guys. > > > -Peter > > -- > ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ > ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ > ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 15:09:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA06893 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:09:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06884 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id SAA24475; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id SAA06371; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:08:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:08:53 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@espresso.eng.umd.edu To: Barry Masterson cc: "freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: Locating modem in Seyon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Barry Masterson wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to configure seyon. And am having some difficulty finding > the correct place to put the modem information. I've been looking at > the seyon manual page, but have yet to see any suggestions on where > to put the modem info; ( set line /dev/cuaa1 ?). > > Also, I've found no reference to 'seyon-emu' in the documents. Is there > any difference between 'seyon-emu' & using seyon in 'xterm'? ('Falling > to `xterm'.') Just got back from a time off. Sorry if you've been stewing, but you want to put the default modem into Seyon's X11 defaults file, which is usually at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Seyon. Here's a small part of mine, where you should pay attention to the modem line: *.title: Seyon Command Center *.iconName: Seyon *modems: /dev/ttyd1 *defaultDirectory: ~/.seyon *defaultBPS: 38400 *startupFile: startup > > Listed below is a description of what happens when I try to start seyon > from an xterm window. > > % seyon > >> Warning: Could not execute `seyon-emu. > >> Notice: Falling to `xterm'. > > ('seyon terminal emulator' window opens) > > Locating modems... > >> Error: No modems specified > >> Error: No modems available > > ('initialization error' window opens) > (suggested solutions) > -- > Thanks > > Barry Masterson > jbarrm@panix.com > >--->--->--->--->--->---> > FreeBSD 2.1.0 | X11R6 > <---<---<---<---<---<---< > > > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 15:18:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07323 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07317 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA145212726; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:18:48 -0800 Message-Id: <199512282318.AA145212726@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA002782724; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:18:44 +1100 From: M C Wong Subject: [2.1R] what happens when swap is full ? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 95 10:18:44 EDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Ok, I just have a lock up of the system in X session after loading the swap space with as high as 96% and I think it's growing. In fact the whole system just hangs again. Note, this is also a follow-up with some paging errors which posted before and now I disabled the sd0s1b leaving only wd0s2b (which is smaller) to see if the previous paging errors will go away. Is this the expected behavior when the swap is (nearly) full and more pages then available needed to be paged out ? Sorry I asked since I can't see any log/trace/message, and this seems to happen overnight (while I was dreaming away ...). Looks like I just haven't had enough luck with running a stable 2.1R as my uptime now is about a week, either struck by this sudden lock-up/hang or when I also enable sd0s1b for more swap, I run into frequent paging errors and chances are if one if the critical processes like init gets killed, the system will lock up/hang as well ... Any more suggestions ? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMOMlzEmThh0X7Um5AQF0OAP/SwMK1spoqNKKN935t3lwp8WszA3kxBXH Hg2H4mp9ho/eXkfRTuEvK8RuegwK5N/HkYwInaxXcrPjpIRvFxMwS1ZiS21LGcoL OZA+xtJtyiVt1eKol2oSg4jw+76a8TGGL2zcztK9B6R6hfNcbDrYifrL+sBLoqZ6 arXmEnc2rF8= =poFS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 15:25:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA07667 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:25:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (wedge.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07657 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id KAA22239; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:25:04 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:25:04 +1100 (EST) From: Carey Nairn To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: compiling apache_1.0.0 http server under 2.1.0-RELEASE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, just been trying to compile apache_1.0.0 and get most of the way through the make and it stalls with the following error: mod_auth.o: Undefined symbol `_crypt' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. Does this mean that I need the DES crypt libraries etc. ? If so I would be interested in a URL for a non-US version of the same for 2.1. Thanks, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 15:34:02 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA08181 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:34:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA08156 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 15:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.6.10/ISnet/14-10-91); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:33:50 GMT Received: from hlunkur.islandia.is by hummer.islandia.is (8.6.11/ISnet/12-09-94); Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:29:08 GMT Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:25:55 +0000 () From: "Gestur A. Grjetarsson" To: questions@freebsd.org cc: admin@islandia.is Subject: SMP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I would like to ask you out there, if you knew about if FreeBSD is going to support SMP motherboards. Med kvedju Sincerely -------------------------------------------------- Gestur A. Grjetarsson gestur@islandia.is kerfisstjori islandia.is sysadmin islandia.is http://www.islandia.is/~gestur http://www.islandia.is/misc/skvopn There are only three kind of people in the world ! Those who know how to count And those who don't ! ================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 16:02:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA09584 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09575 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:02:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA12638; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:01:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA00224; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:01:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512290001.QAA00224@corbin.Root.COM> To: "Gestur A. Grjetarsson" cc: questions@freebsd.org, admin@islandia.is Subject: Re: SMP In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Dec 95 23:25:55 GMT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:01:25 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I would like to ask you out there, if you knew about > if FreeBSD is going to support SMP motherboards. Yes. Work is in progress on this. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 16:32:02 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA10841 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA10813 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:31:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA30016; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:31:48 -0700 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199512290031.RAA30016@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: compiling apache_1.0.0 http server under 2.1.0-RELEASE To: cp_nairn@cc.utas.edu.au (Carey Nairn) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:31:48 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Carey Nairn" at Dec 29, 95 10:25:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Lo and behold, Carey Nairn once said: > just been trying to compile apache_1.0.0 and get most of the way through > the make and it stalls with the following error: > > mod_auth.o: Undefined symbol `_crypt' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 > Does this mean that I need the DES crypt libraries etc. ? If so I would > be interested in a URL for a non-US version of the same for 2.1. You should be able to get it to work with the MD5 crypt, though I could be wrong. Put -lcrypt in the EXTRA_LIBS field of the makefile. It may be missing. -Dave Andersen -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual/ "She totally confused all the passing piranhas" From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 16:37:02 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA11074 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii2.iii.net (root@iii2.iii.net [199.232.40.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA11069 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:36:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii2.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id TAA01938; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:36:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:36:17 -0500 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199512290036.TAA01938@iii2.iii.net> To: craigs@venus.os.com, davidg@Root.COM Subject: Re: Routing trouble Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, shorty@iii.net Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >No, I know this provider. You have to broadcast RIP packets for your network route to the Portmaster to get returns,.. How do I do that? Thanks in advance, -Justin Seger- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 16:49:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA11416 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:49:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11408 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id LAA15307 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:49:37 +1100 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:49:36 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: Carey Nairn cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: compiling apache_1.0.0 http server under 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Carey Nairn wrote: > Hi all, > > just been trying to compile apache_1.0.0 and get most of the way through > the make and it stalls with the following error: > > mod_auth.o: Undefined symbol `_crypt' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 > > Does this mean that I need the DES crypt libraries etc. ? If so I would > be interested in a URL for a non-US version of the same for 2.1. Compiled fine for me on a stock 2.1-R with the MD5 crypt stuff. Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 16:53:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA11594 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sed.cs.fsu.edu (sed.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA11583 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 16:53:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id TAA09996; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:53:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:53:37 -0500 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199512290053.TAA09996@sed.cs.fsu.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: fdc0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Dear all, I am running FreeBSD 2.1. But I am experiencing one strange happening that I didn't have with FreeBSD 2.0.5.: My system has a 250M Colorado floppy tape and a 1.44M 3.5in floppy disk drive which are connected to NEC 72065B floppy controller. Following is the kernel config file entry: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio flags 0x1 irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- During the boot time, occasionally "ft0" can not be probed!! Also I have a strange kernel syslog, even though I do not use any floppy drives: /kernel: fdc0: output ready timeout /kernel: fdc0: input ready timeout .... .... Would you explain why those happen? Thanks. Regards, Gang-Ryung Uh (uh@cs.fsu.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 17:41:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA13562 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.os.com ([199.232.47.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13554 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:41:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from craigs@localhost) by venus.os.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA12613; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 20:42:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 20:42:38 -0500 (EST) From: Craig Shrimpton To: Justin Seger cc: davidg@Root.COM, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, shorty@iii.net Subject: Re: Routing trouble In-Reply-To: <199512290036.TAA01938@iii2.iii.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Justin Seger wrote: > How do I do that? > Thanks in advance, I use bcastd to send RIP packets, but for routed I think all you need to do is to list the following in /etc/gateways and re-boot. host 199.232.your.net gateway 199.232.46.9 metric 1 passive I forgot what you said your network number was but if you broadcast the network number as if it were a host route, III's Portmaster will route all traffic for your sub-net to you. The reason for this is the Portmaster cannot understand variable sub-nets (i.e. RIP2). What III does is to apply a netmask for a range of IPs they have subnetted. That way, when you send a host route that's not really a host but a subnet number, they will send you returns for all your alloted IPs. BTW: 199.232.46.9 is the Worcester Portmaster. Double check that it's the one you call. I hope this makes sense. Craig From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 17:51:44 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA14696 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:51:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14673 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA04693; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:29:17 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512290159.MAA04693@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? To: dkelly@iquest.com (David Kelly) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:29:17 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au In-Reply-To: from "David Kelly" at Dec 28, 95 11:02:54 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk David Kelly stands accused of saying: > >All of these have the NCR bios; in fact, I haven't met a PCI motherboard > >on sale here yet that doesn't. YMMV. > > What does NCR (now Symbios) bios support *look* like? My Nexgen PCI-90 as > AMI bios but nothing within its pretty graphic-windowed setup suggests > support of an NCR/Symbios SCSI card. Recently checked a PCI/VL-bus 486 w/ > AMI bios whose setup looked just like my Nexgen except for the addition of > some kind of EPA crap. Plug in an NCR card and try it; it doesn't "look" like anything unless the PCI BIOS probes find a card; then you get a signon and a SCSI probe. If you're a little patient, dig out a tool like DOS debug and cruise through the BIOS segment (0xf000:0 - 0xffff:f) and look for "SDMS" in a text message. > motherboard FLASH bios. Also hear this often trashes your FLASH bios making > the system totally unusable. Trying to follow the vendor's instructions for flashing your BIOS usually renders it unusable anyway. I prefer to copy them with a 'real' programmer, but not everyone has that luxury 8( > David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@iquest.com -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 17:52:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA14892 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14876 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA04781; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:30:30 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512290200.MAA04781@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? To: LARRYD@bldg1.croute.com (Larry Dolinar) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:30:27 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Larry Dolinar" at Dec 28, 95 11:32:18 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Larry Dolinar stands accused of saying: > People constantly say that the best inexpensive PCI SCSI busmastering > cards are those using the NCR 53C810 (or whatever the part number is), > but even there, your're best advised to buy an original NCR card: No you're not! Over here at least they cost a _fortune_ (more than the Adaptec 2940's), and there's nothing that they do that, say, an ASUS SC200 doesn't. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 17:54:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA15033 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA15024 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA01578 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:53:22 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199512281753.RAA01578@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: ISDN card for FreeBSD To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 17:53:21 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Any recommendation on a PC based BRI ISDN with built-in NT1 and with a FreeBSD 2.x driver. TIA. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 18:05:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA16234 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:05:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwbtwo.bsi.com.br ([200.250.250.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA16228 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by cwbtwo.bsi.com.br (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA09454; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:02:39 GMT Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:02:37 +0000 () From: Sergio Lenzi To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: Stephen Couchman , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PPPD & isp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I use pppd to connect my FreeBSD system to a ISP (various). My file (/etc/ppp/options) is : modem crtscts mtu 296 asycnmap 0xffffffff I dial with kermit, with a script that logs in and starts ppp on my system with the command: /usr/sbin/pppd -silent defaultroute /dev/modem 38400 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 18:42:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA17708 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17703 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 18:42:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA04952; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:17:20 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512290247.NAA04952@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: [2.1R] what happens when swap is full ? To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com (M C Wong) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:17:20 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512282318.AA145212726@hp.com> from "M C Wong" at Dec 29, 95 10:18:44 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk M C Wong stands accused of saying: > I just have a lock up of the system in X session after loading > the swap space with as high as 96% and I think it's growing. In fact > the whole system just hangs again. Note, this is also a follow-up with > some paging errors which posted before and now I disabled the sd0s1b > leaving only wd0s2b (which is smaller) to see if the previous paging > errors will go away. Sorry, I don't recall your paging errors message; could you repost the bare details? > Is this the expected behavior when the swap is (nearly) full and > more pages then available needed to be paged out ? I don't think the system is allowed into overcommit anymore, so you should get processes killed off or not starting in the first place as you run out of swap. > Sorry I asked since I can't see any log/trace/message, and this > seems to happen overnight (while I was dreaming away ...). That's unusual, unless you have something running overnight with a memory leak. You're not running xperfmon by any chance are you? -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 19:24:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA20182 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:24:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from bambi.pomona.edu (bambi.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20173 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #12356) id <01HZCOLPHJF48WWE50@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:24:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:24:38 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card (Thanks) To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HZCOLPITKI8WWE50@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thanks everyone for all the suggestions for a SCSI card. The topic did get a little beyond me, being a newbie, but... :) John From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 19:45:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA21638 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:45:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA21630 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA073118721; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:45:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199512290345.AA073118721@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA011788719; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:45:19 +1100 From: M C Wong Subject: Re: [2.1R] what happens when swap is full ? To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 95 14:45:18 EDT Cc: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com, freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512290247.NAA04952@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>; from "Michael Smith" at Dec 29, 95 1:17 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > M C Wong stands accused of saying: > > I just have a lock up of the system in X session after loading > > the swap space with as high as 96% and I think it's growing. In fact > > the whole system just hangs again. Note, this is also a follow-up with > > some paging errors which posted before and now I disabled the sd0s1b > > leaving only wd0s2b (which is smaller) to see if the previous paging > > errors will go away. > Sorry, I don't recall your paging errors message; could you repost the > bare details? lespoir:/local/home/wongm 124 > Dec 26 13:56:50 lespoir last message repeated 126 times Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence Dec 26 13:56:50 lespoir last message repeated 126 times Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vnode_pager_input: I/O read error Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vnode_pager_input: I/O read error Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 1553 failure Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: vm_fault: pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 1553 failure Dec 26 13:56:53 lespoir /kernel: Linux-emul(1204): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) Dec 26 13:56:53 lespoir /kernel: Linux-emul(1204): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) As pointed in my earlier postings, sometimes some processes get killed, this is most obvious when you switch between virtual screen in the same vt session using fvwm, and when you try to access, say, an xterm after leaving it alone for long time, you can hear that the disk is paging by the noise, and as soon as when you try to type something in the xterm shell, it disappears and I can see on the console the above errors plus others saying things like process id gets killed. In the most unfortunate instances, I have processes like init gets killed which subsequently results in a system hang soon after it gets killed, or instance when you are puzzled why the mail you sent out is sitting in the queue with message saying server timeout, which in fact the local sendmail has been killed ... > That's unusual, unless you have something running overnight with a > memory leak. You're not running xperfmon by any chance are you? Yes, I have 2 BSDI of Netscape 2.0b3 running, and 1 Linux version of Netscape running plus other stuff like xearth, cxterm, top, vmstat, istat, nfsstat, xterm, tin etc. Oddly enough not xperfmon. > -- > ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ > ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ > ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 9210 5568 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 9210 5550 P.O. Box 221, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMONkQEmThh0X7Um5AQG/IwP/Yg67PAb111umENPHgyDZNLbJM2sgebO9 ESpXIRvECMpUzgj/T7bAEUuTo6zQnleI/h2SmboirVY+p1pSVOImriHjTFIEWOb2 wFLuDtjixMnZlS0/seIyY7zfGm8L6WA/mVgEYFlcr1k4/CR36NJrK7VFIotM3pof cf9E5b2BnC4= =K3g3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 19:51:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA21963 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:51:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [199.166.238.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA21955 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA27391; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:51:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:51:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: system monitoring tools for X Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I've been looking around, and haven't found anything particularly impressive in the way of System Monitoring tools. I got disktools 2.0 compiled, which is great for monitoring your disk space usuage, but the closest I've come to stuff like CPU usuage/swap/memory/etc is sysstats (which, quite frankly, is a drab black and white little box on teh screen that tells nothing), or top, which isn't really what I'm looking for... ..mainly, something that produces a constantly updating graph of actiivity...individual processes are not required. Oh, and something that is reasonably accurate in the information it gives (toops numbers seem to be a bit off) I don't mind compiling several utilities to try them out, so any recommendations would be appreciated... Thanks... Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 19:58:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA22298 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA22290 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 19:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA05166; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:34:03 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512290404.OAA05166@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: [2.1R] what happens when swap is full ? To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com (M C Wong) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:34:02 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com, freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512290345.AA073118721@hp.com> from "M C Wong" at Dec 29, 95 02:45:18 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk M C Wong stands accused of saying: > > Sorry, I don't recall your paging errors message; could you repost the > > bare details? > > lespoir:/local/home/wongm 124 > Dec 26 13:56:50 lespoir last message > repeated 126 times > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence > Dec 26 13:56:50 lespoir last message repeated 126 times > Dec 26 13:56:52 lespoir /kernel: aha0: Invalid bus phase/sequence aha0, so this is a 1542? Which revision (a/b/c)? What's the disk on it? (Include the boot probe details...) Talk to us about your cabling and termination arrangements; what sort of cable, what sort of termination, who provides terminator power, etc. > Dec 26 13:56:53 lespoir /kernel: Linux-emul(1204): syslog() not supported (BSD sigreturn) This is Linux Netscape being stupid. > As pointed in my earlier postings, sometimes some processes get killed, this Do you still get similar errors when you're not swapping to the SCSI disk? > Yes, I have 2 BSDI of Netscape 2.0b3 running, and 1 Linux version of Netscape > running plus other stuff like xearth, cxterm, top, vmstat, istat, nfsstat, > xterm, tin etc. Oddly enough not xperfmon. Leave the system idle for a while and watch the process sizes. Something is leaking. It sounds like you're really thrashing this machine - how much memory do you actually have? > M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 22:14:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA29950 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29945 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:14:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from deasey@localhost) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) id BAA06322; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 01:14:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 01:14:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199512290614.BAA06322@server1.netpath.net> To: questions@FreeBSD.org X-URL: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 X-Personal_name: Geoffrey Deasey From: deasey@netpath.net Subject: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is freebsd 2.1 an ELF or a.out system ? thanks Happy Holidays --Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 22:36:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA00848 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:36:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00819 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:35:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA29318; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:32:16 -0600 Message-Id: <9512290632.AA29318@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:32:16 -0600 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: michles@haven.ios.com, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 3940W adaptec problem.... Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I have two Seagate drives, (Fast Wide), which are 4 GB's each..., > > >and they are on seperate channels on the controller. Will it be necessary > > >to put it on the first channel, or could FreeBSd, recognize the second > > >one as well? > > > > I think that FreeBSD will see the 3940W as two separate controllers, so > > you'll probably need two ahc entries (ahc0 and ahc1) in your kernel > > config file. > > I don't think so. The 2742 EISA two channel controller works with ahc0 > and looks at both channels. You don't need a second ahc entry in your kernel. > I don't have anything on the second channel in the moment, hence the > empty second probe: ... The 274x cards only have one controller (aic7770) and the twin channel 274xT has two SCSI busses (channels). The 3940 adapters have two physically separate controllers (aic7870) which should be found as separate devices by the PCI probe. Thus, the two "channels" on the 3940 is like having two 2940 cards in your box. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 22:37:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA00918 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00913 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:37:57 -0800 (PST) From: gpalmer@westhill.cdrom.com Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA02208 ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:36:46 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: deasey@netpath.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Dec 1995 01:14:04 EST." <199512290614.BAA06322@server1.netpath.net> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:36:45 -0800 Message-ID: <2206.820219005@westhill.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk deasey@netpath.net wrote in message ID <199512290614.BAA06322@server1.netpath.net>: > Is freebsd 2.1 an ELF or a.out system ? FreeBSD uses a.out and we currently have no (immediate) plans to move to ELF. Yours Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 22:43:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA01153 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:43:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (wedge.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01147 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:43:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id RAA22706; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 17:43:35 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 17:43:35 +1100 (EST) From: Carey Nairn To: Dave Andersen cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: compiling apache_1.0.0 http server under 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199512290031.RAA30016@terra.aros.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Dave Andersen wrote: > Lo and behold, Carey Nairn once said: > > > just been trying to compile apache_1.0.0 and get most of the way through > > the make and it stalls with the following error: > > > > mod_auth.o: Undefined symbol `_crypt' referenced from text segment > > *** Error code 1 > > > Does this mean that I need the DES crypt libraries etc. ? If so I would > > be interested in a URL for a non-US version of the same for 2.1. > > You should be able to get it to work with the MD5 crypt, though I > could be wrong. Put > > -lcrypt in the EXTRA_LIBS field of the makefile. It may be missing. looks like that was the magical incantation I needed... thanks for the hint (and thanks to all who replied). Now all I have to do is configure the server... > > -Dave Andersen > > -- > angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented > system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) > http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual/ > "She totally confused all the passing piranhas" > ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 22:52:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA01524 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01516 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:52:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA05693; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 17:30:09 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512290700.RAA05693@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org To: deasey@netpath.net Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 17:30:08 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199512290614.BAA06322@server1.netpath.net> from "deasey@netpath.net" at Dec 29, 95 01:14:04 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk deasey@netpath.net stands accused of saying: > > Is freebsd 2.1 an ELF or a.out system ? No. A hint, you're asking the wrong question. Stop thinking Linux and ask what you mean. > --Jeff -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 28 23:58:05 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA05835 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from linux.csie.nctu.edu.tw (linux.csie.nctu.edu.tw [140.113.235.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA05822 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 1995 23:57:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jdli@localhost) by linux.csie.nctu.edu.tw (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA20617 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:54:21 +0800 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:54:21 +0800 From: Chien-Ta Lee Message-Id: <199512290754.PAA20617@linux.csie.nctu.edu.tw> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: system monitoring tools for X Newsgroups: mailing.freebsd.questions Organization: ¥æ¤j¸ê¤u Linux Server Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > I've been looking around, and haven't found anything particularly > impressive in the way of System Monitoring tools. > > I got disktools 2.0 compiled, which is great for monitoring > your disk space usuage, but the closest I've come to stuff like > CPU usuage/swap/memory/etc is sysstats (which, quite frankly, is a drab > black and white little box on teh screen that tells nothing), or > top, which isn't really what I'm looking for... > > ..mainly, something that produces a constantly updating graph of > actiivity...individual processes are not required. Oh, and something that > is reasonably accurate in the information it gives (toops numbers seem > to be a bit off) > I wrote this long ago, and even sent it to port-list, but no one noticed it. :( It could be found at ftp.freebsd.com:/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/ or NCTUCCCA.edu.tw:/OS/FreeBSD/packages/jdli/source/xsysinfo-1.0.tgz -- §õ «Ø ¹F (Adonis) ¥æ¤j¸ê¤u Mail: jdli@csie.nctu.edu.tw From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 01:10:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA08704 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 01:10:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoover.stanford.edu (hoover.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA08698 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 01:10:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01HZD0H2TOPS008RES@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 01:11:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 01:11:24 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Installation Problem To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <01HZD0H2U80I008RES@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" X-VMS-Cc: ANDRSN MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I installed (or I think I did) FreeBSD 2.1 from the cdrom, on a second SCSI hard drive. OS2's boot manager (along with DOS/WIN 3.1) was on the first SCSI hd. In any case the installation was a breeze--very clear info on what to do next etc. I chose the option not to make any changes to the MBR, and not to install boot manager. Now when I attempt to boot (after the options to use setup, to use the SCSI utility, and to do something with the GSI 11 floppy controller), the next message (in big letters) is NO ROM BASIC, SYSTEM HALTED. It boots fine from a floppy, but of course the boot manager doesn't come up. Would anyone know what "no rom basic" means and how I can fix this? Thanks very much-- Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 02:25:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA13311 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 02:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (root@oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA13304 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 02:25:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell02.ozemail.com.au (rlyon@shell02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.163]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA07227 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:24:56 +1100 (EST) Received: (from rlyon@localhost) by shell02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) id VAA18678; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:24:51 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:24:51 +1100 (EST) From: Richard Lyon To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: popclient Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I remember seeing some mention that popclient was not working correctly. What is the current status of the popclient port? Are there any alternatives? My ISP does not support IMAP so POP is the only way I can go. Regards ... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 04:25:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA17701 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 04:25:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mis.ashrae.org (mis.ashrae.org [204.7.184.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA17687 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 04:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bill@localhost) by mis.ashrae.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) id HAA13475 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 07:27:02 GMT Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 07:27:02 GMT From: User Bill Message-Id: <199512290727.HAA13475@mis.ashrae.org> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SCO Emulation Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I put a YES at the end of the sysconfig file for SCO emulation but an not havingmuch luck at executing any SCO programs. Is there something else I have to do ie type sco first ?????????? Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 05:07:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA19475 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 05:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from iaehv.IAEhv.nl (root@iaehv.IAEhv.nl [192.87.208.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA19470 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 05:07:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by iaehv.IAEhv.nl (8.6.12/1.63) id OAA18901; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:07:17 +0100 X-Disclaimer: iaehv.nl is a public access UNIX system and cannot be held responsible for the opinions of its individual users. Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nietzsche.bowtie.nl (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA15920; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:57:44 +0100 Message-Id: <199512291157.MAA15920@nietzsche.bowtie.nl> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system monitoring tools for X In-reply-to: scrappy's message of Thu, 28 Dec 1995 22:51:09 -0500. Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:57:42 +0100 From: Marc van Kempen Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi... > > I've been looking around, and haven't found anything particularly > impressive in the way of System Monitoring tools. > Take a look at xsysinfo, I think you can find it in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming Marc. ---------------------------------------------------- Marc van Kempen BowTie Technology Email: marc@bowtie.nl WWW & Databases tel. +31 40 2 43 20 65 fax. +31 40 2 44 21 86 http://www.bowtie.nl ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 06:28:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA22039 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:28:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus.os.com ([199.232.47.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA22033 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from craigs@localhost) by venus.os.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA20494; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:28:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:28:53 -0500 (EST) From: Craig Shrimpton To: Michael Smith cc: deasey@netpath.net, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199512290700.RAA05693@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > > A hint, you're asking the wrong question. Stop thinking Linux and ask > what you mean. > ELF is not specific to Linux. Craig From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 06:38:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA22362 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from xs1.xs4all.nl (root@xs1.xs4all.nl [193.78.33.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA22356 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from asd05-10.dial.xs4all.nl by xs1.xs4all.nl with SMTP id AA15743 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:38:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:38:49 +0100 Message-Id: <199512291438.AA15743@xs1.xs4all.nl> X-Sender: paulg@xs4all.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: paulg@xs4all.nl (paul/rob) Subject: IBM Xstation X-Mailer: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'am running freebsd 2.1.0 and have a IBM Xstation 120 without software or manuals. Could somebody please tell me where to get the software so I can boot the IBM from my bsd host. Bootpd, tftpd and X are not the problem but a bootfile for the xstation is. Greetings, Paul. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 06:50:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA22863 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dyson@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA22857 Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:50:29 -0800 (PST) From: John Dyson Message-Id: <199512291450.GAA22857@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org To: craigs@venus.os.com (Craig Shrimpton) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:50:28 -0800 (PST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, deasey@netpath.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Craig Shrimpton" at Dec 29, 95 09:28:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > A hint, you're asking the wrong question. Stop thinking Linux and ask > > what you mean. > > > > ELF is not specific to Linux. > I think that the question that he asked is probably regarding both the ELF format and the potential advantages. FreeBSD already has a dynamic shared lib scheme similar to the SunOS method (for nearly a couple of years now.) Note that Linux is just now getting a dynamic shared lib scheme at the same time as ELF. As far as the binary format itself, it appears that a.out will continue to be the FreeBSD native format until multiplatform support demands a change (or a langauge or feature forces it.) FreeBSD will most likely be able to run linux ELF soon. The FreeBSD development tools will still produce a.out until the FreeBSD format changes. (Hope that this clarifies the situation.) Also, I sure wish that we would learn to be more tolerant of apparently innocent questions being asked. John Dyson dyson@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 06:51:38 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA22920 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA22914 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02046; Fri, 29 Dec 95 08:59:21 CST Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 29 Dec 95 9:15:20 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 29 Dec 95 9:14:59 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:14:52 +600 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Larry Dolinar" X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Michael, Michael, if you're going to quote me please quote the whole thing. The comments you attribute to me are actually those of Michel Joly de Lotbiniere; that was the reason for the "begin/end snip". I'll admit the cards may not be the most economical Down Under, but speaking from personal experience, the NCR card cost me $125, the equivalent Adaptec (software/docs/etc) would be closer to $300. Obviously disparities exist, and Adaptec has an overinflated idea of its worth in the States. Perhaps the same is true of NCR in Australia. I'll include the _whole_post_ again for the curious; sorry for the extra bandwidth.... Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 23:48:44 -0400 From: Michel Joly de Lotbiniere Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk X-PMFLAGS: 33554560 Larry, The FutureDomain card you mentioned in your post to questions@freebsd.org is a non-busmastering type SCSI controller; you'll be sacrificing some of the efficiencies of SCSI since I/O transfers will require the attention of the OS, not merely the setting-up & results. People constantly say that the best inexpensive PCI SCSI busmastering cards are those using the NCR 53C810 (or whatever the part number is), but even there, your're best advised to buy an original NCR card: Symbios Logic PCI Host Bus Adapter SYM8150S (with BIOS) or SYM8100S (without BIOS, for MBs with the SDMS bios) NCR Microelectronics is now independant: Symbios Logic 1-800-334-5454 | From: Michael Smith | Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? | To: LARRYD@bldg1.croute.com (Larry Dolinar) | Date sent: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:30:27 +1030 (CST) | Copies to: questions@FreeBSD.ORG | Larry Dolinar stands accused of saying: | > People constantly say that the best inexpensive PCI SCSI busmastering | > cards are those using the NCR 53C810 (or whatever the part number is), | > but even there, your're best advised to buy an original NCR card: | | No you're not! Over here at least they cost a _fortune_ (more than the | Adaptec 2940's), and there's nothing that they do that, say, an ASUS SC200 | doesn't. | To quote the ASUS manual for the P54SP4, P55TP4, and P55TP4XE: "This card works with the SCSI BIOS on the mainboard. Together, they provide a complete PCI Fast SCSI-2 interface." An ASUS card has no BIOS; without motherboard support you'd be stuck with booting off a floppy. Fortunately many motherboards beside ASUS have just such a feature, but that's bit of a stretch to saying they are interchangeable. The 2940 has onboard BIOS, by contrast. best regards, larry From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 06:53:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA23035 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA23025 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 06:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10799 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 07:53:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from westhub (westhub.mnet.uswest.com [148.156.21.6]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA05483 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 08:01:11 -0700 (MST) Received: by westhub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Message-Id: Date: 28 Dec 1995 20:47:52 -0700 From: "Owen Newnan" Subject: HTML & ATAPI part 3 To: "questions about FreeBSD" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 GM Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Subject: Time:8:40 PM OFFICE MEMO HTML & ATAPI part 3 Date:12/28/95 Thanks for the tip on lynx, which is now part of my plan. I still have a catch 22: need the documentation to get the drive working, but need the drive to install the package to read the documentation. Since I have no direct internet connection, I can't download the package to FreeBSD. My only option presently is to stage it from DOS. But that results in different file naming from what the package makefiles expect. I conclude from the lack of advice on ATAPI that I have an unsupported device. So I need a work around installing packages by way of DOS. Needed is a utility that takes a package subtree copied over from DOS and applies the tables, restoring the long file names. Does such a thing exist? Otherwise, I'll write one. Thanks. Cheers! From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 08:18:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA28462 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 08:18:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28454 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 08:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA13682; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 08:18:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA02715; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 08:18:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512291618.IAA02715@corbin.Root.COM> To: John Dyson cc: craigs@venus.os.com (Craig Shrimpton), msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, deasey@netpath.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Dec 95 06:50:28 PST." <199512291450.GAA22857@freefall.freebsd.org> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 08:18:19 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >(Hope that this clarifies the situation.) Also, I sure wish that we >would learn to be more tolerant of apparently innocent questions being >asked. I'd like to second this notion. The -questions mailing list has become very hostile recently to new users, and this is exactly what *should not* happen. The -questions mailing list was designed and created specifically for new users who have "new user" questions. If you are on this list and have a low threshold for these types of questions, please do all of us (and most importantly our new users) a favor and either unsubscribe or answer the questions politely and with high "new user" tolerance. We have many other mailing lists which are not new-user oriented (such as -hackers, -current, -bugs, etc) where your energy can be much better spent. -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 08:55:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA00469 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 08:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii1.iii.net (root@iii1.iii.net [199.232.40.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00459 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 08:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii1.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA20710 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:52:42 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:52:42 -0500 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199512291652.LAA20710@iii1.iii.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Microsoft exchange and qpop Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I don't know whether I should be asking this is a windows '95 newsgroups or on this list, but anyway, I have a machine (scds1.scds.com) which has a cname of tsteele.scds.com. I am running qpop on this machine, and have setup a POP account for another machine on the LAN running Windows '95. It is using Microsoft Exchange for email. I have told it to use the server tsteele.scds.com, but whenever I send email, it appears to come from scds1.scds.com, is there anyway I can fix this? If not, is it a problem with exchange, or qpop? Thanks in advance, -Justin Seger- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 09:14:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA01226 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from nise-ch.nosc.mil (nise-ch.nosc.mil [198.253.27.46]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01221 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from slartibartfast by nise-ch.nosc.mil (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M) id AA15670; Fri, 29 Dec 95 12:14:18 -0500 Received: by slartibartfast.nosc.mil (NX5.67f2/NX3.0S) id AA06720; Fri, 29 Dec 95 12:14:17 -0500 From: Craig Huckabee Message-Id: <9512291714.AA06720@slartibartfast.nosc.mil> Subject: pty limit of 64 To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:14:15 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there a way to increase the number of ptys beyond 64? I'm currently using several machines to run some expect scripts which will simulate telnet sessions to another host (we are trying to simulate activity on the other host for load testing). I'd like to have more than 64 ptys active at one time (closer to 128 or more) The LINT kernel config file lists a limit of 64 ptys, but the MAKEDEV scripts show that you can make a whole lot more devices than that, up to 256 if I remember correctly. So, why the limit of 64 or is there something special to increase this number? Thanks, Craig huck@nosc.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 09:20:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA01652 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:20:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from hillae.com (hillae.hillae.com [204.213.232.57]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01643 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from haehub by hillae.com with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tVjNT-00013lC; Fri, 29 Dec 95 13:18 EST Received: by hillae.com; Fri, 29 Dec 95 11:48:08 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Dec 95 11:48:08 From: Yankura David To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: More info on install problem X-Mailer: UGate [Ver. 2.02] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've been making some more attempts to install FreeBSD v2.1 on my AMD 486/DX4 100MHz system and have come across something which might be part or all of the problem. I tried a <> installation instead of the <> one and followed this path: boot from floppy select custom installation select allocate disk space from menu select sd1(no existing partitions) for use by FreeBSD(Seagate st3283N 237MB drive w/1691 cyl, 5 hds, and 57 sectors/track avg). select option "A" - use entire disk for FreeBSD(leaving a true partition) This process creates a freebsd partition @ offset 57, size 485298, named sd1s1 w/flag "C" I then execute option "W" to save these changes. I select installation of the booteasy boot mgr. get msg that fdisk partition info written successfully. select label allocated disk partitions from menu select option "A" - Auto defaults for all: this creates partitions: sd1s1a / 32MB UFS Y sd1s1b 27MB SWAP sd1s1e /var 30MB UFS Y sd1s1f /usr 147MB UFS Y select option "W" to save these changes - are you sure - YES get the following msg: "WARNING! unable to swap to /dev/sd1s1b: device not configured" "this may cause the installation to fail at some point" "if you don't have a lot of memory." I then get another msg: "Unable to make new root filesystem on /dev/rsd1a!" "command returned status 1." Since my machine only has 8MB ram I wonder if this might be the cause of my installation problems. If I continue on with the installation I get the error that I have reported before during the creation of /bin: on the console session: "panic: bad dir" and on the 2nd screen: "/mnt: bad dir ino 157 at offset 677: mangled entry" As I mentioned before the ino# and offset# are different every time I try an installation. I have never seen any msgs like these when I use the <> installation. Any help or just insight as to what might be going on would be greatly appreciated. David Yankura dgy@hillae.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 09:45:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA02733 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:45:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02728 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id JAA06717 for (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:45:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512291745.JAA06717@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:45:11 -0800 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Tutorial on partitioning, disklabel, newfs? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have just added a new HD to my 2.1 system. As it's the kind of thing that I only do once in awhile, I'm very shaky about the esoterics of fdisk, diskpart, disklabel, newfs, etc. Is there any good documentation available about how BSD organizes and names partitions, rules for partitioning HDs, etc? I have several questions. I'd like to read up on this so that I don't have to hack around next time to get things working. I found one helpful entry in the FAQ about disklabel, but this still didn't give an overview of the requirements. Similarly, I have "Essential System Administration" by Frisch, but it isn't specific enough to FreeBSD. Any info would be appreciated, Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 09:56:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA03214 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from condor.physics.montana.edu (condor.physics.montana.edu [153.90.240.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03208 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from handy@localhost) by condor.physics.montana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA10636; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:55:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:55:24 -0700 (MST) From: Brian Handy To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Arrgh! I'm trying to follow this discussion and getting completely shut down. Too many part numbers, BIOS names and MB manufacturers have been bantered about and I've gotten completely lost. I'm also about to put together a couple of systems. I'm sort of planning on a P-100 with some sort of SCSI; the onboard NCR was highly recommended to me as inexpensive and quite sufficient for my needs. Now...Larry just recapped things with the following: >[...] > People constantly say that the best inexpensive PCI SCSI busmastering > cards are those using the NCR 53C810 (or whatever the part number is), > but even there, your're best advised to buy an original NCR card: > Symbios Logic PCI Host Bus Adapter SYM8150S (with BIOS) > or SYM8100S (without BIOS, for MBs > with the SDMS bios) >[...] These part numbers are lost on me. I've been trying to get an ASUS MB *and* get the NCR on-board SCSI. I've heard arguments about how the BIOS won't deal with it and I'll have to boot off a floppy, and (sigh) I even had a dealer tell me I couldn't do it. At the same time...if I look at the ASUS www page, I see that the PCI-SC2000 controller comes with the following claim: "Works with ANY ASUS Mb." Now, I wanted 512KB cache w/ Pipeline burst. I don't know if that's somehow the cause of my problems. To wrap things up...can someone explain to me where I'm completely off in left field? basically, how do I solve this problem and get a nice MB with the cheap SCSI interface? Thanks for your help, and THANKS for your patience. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 10:02:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA03521 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from jhome.DIALix.COM (root@jhome.DIALix.COM [192.203.228.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03511 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from julian@localhost) by jhome.DIALix.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA01067; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 02:01:39 +0800 (WST) From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199512291801.CAA01067@jhome.DIALix.COM> Subject: Re: More info on install problem To: DGY@hillae.com (Yankura David) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 02:01:37 +0800 (WST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Yankura David" at Dec 29, 95 11:48:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > I've been making some more attempts to install FreeBSD v2.1 on > my AMD 486/DX4 100MHz system and have come across something > which might be part or all of the problem. ok what type of adapter do you have? > > I tried a <> installation instead of the <> one > and followed this path: > > boot from floppy use -c and -v -c to get the right ports etc, and -v to see what the BIOS thinks is the geometry of the drives.. > > select custom installation probably better to select novice or express > > select allocate disk space from menu > > select sd1(no existing partitions) for use by FreeBSD(Seagate > st3283N 237MB drive w/1691 cyl, 5 hds, and 57 sectors/track > avg). > is this a 2.0.5 or a 2.1 CD? > select option "A" - use entire disk for FreeBSD(leaving a true > partition) > > This process creates a freebsd partition @ offset 57, size > 485298, named sd1s1 w/flag "C" ah here could be one problem.. offset 57? unlikely to be the right number.. you should find what the BIOS geometry is, and use teh 'G' geometry option to set the same geometry as teh BIOS probably 64 heads x 32 sectors. > > I then execute option "W" to save these changes. no you shouldn't do this yet.. it get's done later this is for when you need to write if you're 'fiddling' things.. you aren't.. don't do the 'W' yet.. it shouldn't be there.. > > I select installation of the booteasy boot mgr. > > get msg that fdisk partition info written successfully. > > select label allocated disk partitions from menu > > select option "A" - Auto defaults for all: > > this creates partitions: > > sd1s1a / 32MB UFS Y > > sd1s1b 27MB SWAP > > sd1s1e /var 30MB UFS Y > > sd1s1f /usr 147MB UFS Y > > > > select option "W" to save these changes - are you sure - YES NO don't do this.. you'll get an oportunity later to 'commit' the changes.. THIS 'W' might have a bug. > > get the following msg: > > "WARNING! unable to swap to /dev/sd1s1b: device not configured" > > "this may cause the installation to fail at some point" > > "if you don't have a lot of memory." > > > > I then get another msg: > > "Unable to make new root filesystem on /dev/rsd1a!" At This point all is failed... no point in continuing.. > > > > julian > > > dgy@hillae.com > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 10:03:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA03610 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:03:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03604 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from buffnet3.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa14671; 29 Dec 95 13:05 EST Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:05:43 -0500 (EST) From: steve hovey To: Craig Huckabee cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pty limit of 64 In-Reply-To: <9512291714.AA06720@slartibartfast.nosc.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Craig Huckabee wrote: > > > Is there a way to increase the number of ptys beyond 64? Id like to know this too - if you try for more than 64 and recmopile the kernal you get a warning - is there something someplace which uses only so many bits thus capping it at 64? ------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Hovey -- shovey@buffnet.net root@buffnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 10:07:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA03801 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:07:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from jthome.jthome.com (jthome.jthome.com [199.232.37.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03791 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:07:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by jthome.jthome.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA03142 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:07:16 -0500 From: Jeff Tyler Message-Id: <199512291807.NAA03142@jthome.jthome.com> Subject: Micronics JX 30WB motherboard To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:07:14 -0500 (EST) Organization: Never touch the stuff ... Location: Eight miles from the rude bridge that arched the flow ... Phone: (508)-440-8624 System: FreeBSD jthome.jthome.com 2.0.5-RELEASE X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking at upgrading to a Micronics JX 30WB a486DX4-100, anyone have any experiance with this board and CPU combo, good or bad ? TIA -- ======================================================================== |Jeff S. Tyler Pencom System Administration| |PSA all the way ! [At Digital] 508-486-5369 | |jeff@jthome.com [Home phone/fax] 508-440-8624/8625 | |jtyler@pencom.com [Pager] 1-800-759-8888 249-5568 | | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | |Tis better to have hacked and crashed than never to have hacked at all| ======================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 10:31:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA04897 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:31:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04892 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:31:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA13832; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:31:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA02819; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:31:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512291831.KAA02819@corbin.Root.COM> To: steve hovey cc: Craig Huckabee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pty limit of 64 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Dec 95 13:05:43 EST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:31:37 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> Is there a way to increase the number of ptys beyond 64? > >Id like to know this too - if you try for more than 64 and recmopile the >kernal you get a warning - is there something someplace which uses only >so many bits thus capping it at 64? Are you refering to the maxusers "> 64" warning? I just changed this in -current to 512 users. It's never caused anything more than a warning that can be ignored, but 512 is a more reasonable "max". Actually, the maximum should probably be increased to the maximum that FreeBSD can support given size limits of certain kernel data structures. ...but since I don't what all of the limits are, I can't really pick a real max value. As for ptys, 32 units are fully supported for each of ttyp, q, r, and s, and if you're not using xterms, another 32 ptys each are supported for P, Q, R, and S...for a total of 256 ptys. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 11:34:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA08250 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nise-ch.nosc.mil (NISE-CH.NOSC.MIL [198.253.27.46]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08235 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:34:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by nise-ch.nosc.mil (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M) id AA16932; Fri, 29 Dec 95 14:33:43 -0500 From: Craig Huckabee Message-Id: <9512291933.AA16932@nise-ch.nosc.mil> Subject: Re: pty limit of 64 To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:33:41 -0500 (EST) Cc: shovey@buffnet.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512291831.KAA02819@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Dec 29, 95 10:31:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > >> Is there a way to increase the number of ptys beyond 64? > > As for ptys, 32 units are fully supported for each of ttyp, q, r, and s, > and if you're not using xterms, another 32 ptys each are supported for P, Q, R, > and S...for a total of 256 ptys. So how does this relate to the option pseudo-device pty 16 #Pseudo ttys - can go as high as 64 found in the kernel config? I made the ttyp, q, r, s, and P devices and added them to /etc/ttys before posting - I had overlooked the above line in my kernel config. After posting the question, I went out on a limb and built a new kernel with 'pseudo-device pty 160' which would match what I had put in /etc/ttys & what I had done in /dev. It built OK and is running OK, but config generated a pty.h file that contained something like '#define NPTY 1606', so I gotta be doing something wrong. Does that make the question any clearer or am I misunderstanding the meaning of the pseudo-device line? BTW, this is with ver. 2.1 Thanks, Craig huck@nosc.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 11:36:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA08519 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:36:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08514 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:36:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA10874; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:33:03 -0500 From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199512291933.OAA10874@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: Tutorial on partitioning, disklabel, newfs? To: mcquiggi@sfu.ca (Kevin McQuiggin) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:33:03 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512291745.JAA06717@ferrari.sfu.ca> from "Kevin McQuiggin" at Dec 29, 95 09:45:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there folx, > > I have just added a new HD to my 2.1 system. As it's the kind of thing that > I only do once in awhile, I'm very shaky about the esoterics of fdisk, > diskpart, disklabel, newfs, etc. Those ones can drive average person crazy ... I remember the last time when used them on FreeBSD 151 ... :) I use the following method to add extra HDD to FreeBSD system ( God, please forgive me !): install new HD into the system prepare the bool floppy boot of it mark the boot HD and the NEW ONE as the ones to be used. in the partition screen be sure to specify mount points for the boot(old) HD and !!! NO NEWFS OPTION !!! - its default option - so just don't touch it , but be sure its OFF. Partition the new HD in the way you want/need Specify the media from which to install to be UFS ( local filesystem), type something like /weqfewfef for the location - I bet you don;t have this folder :) commit the install ( be sure to tell it not to touch the boot manager !) The system will fsck BOOT DISK's partition, partition and newfs new HD and fail trying to get the distribution from the USF partition. That's it - quit install, reboot , mount the new HD's partitions under the desired mount points ( probably you'll have to create the corresponding directories by hand) Looks lengthy , sounds scary - but it's very fast (~8 minutes average for 4 Gb Barracuda ) and guaranteed to work. If you have extra PC you can use - the run the whole process on that one and later just move the HD into the destination box. Rashid. Have a great New Year all :)) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 11:55:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA09545 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:55:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09532 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id LAA05369; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:55:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA27766; Fri, 29 Dec 95 11:54:37 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9512291954.AA27766@tera.com> Subject: Re: system monitoring tools for X To: jdli@linux.csie.nctu.edu.tw (Chien-Ta Lee) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 11:54:51 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512290754.PAA20617@linux.csie.nctu.edu.tw> from "Chien-Ta Lee" at Dec 29, 95 03:54:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to Chien-Ta Lee: > > > > > I've been looking around, and haven't found anything particularly > > impressive in the way of System Monitoring tools. > > [[ ... ]] > > > > I wrote this long ago, and even sent it to port-list, but no one > noticed it. :( > > It could be found at ftp.freebsd.com:/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/ or > NCTUCCCA.edu.tw:/OS/FreeBSD/packages/jdli/source/xsysinfo-1.0.tgz > > -- > > §õ «Ø ¹F (Adonis) ¥æ¤j¸ê¤u > Mail: jdli@csie.nctu.edu.tw Yet another X- toy, er, tool! xsysinfo sounds like it would be very useful. Also that I'm going to need a second gig drive pretty soon. ``So much src, so little time... .'' gary > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 12:03:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA10167 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:03:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10162 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:03:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA10977; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:59:26 -0500 From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199512291959.OAA10977@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: pty limit of 64 To: shovey@buffnet.net (steve hovey) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:59:26 -0500 (EST) Cc: huck@slartibartfast.nosc.mil, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "steve hovey" at Dec 29, 95 01:05:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there folx, > > On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Craig Huckabee wrote: > > > > > > > Is there a way to increase the number of ptys beyond 64? > > Id like to know this too - if you try for more than 64 and recmopile the > kernal you get a warning - is there something someplace which uses only > so many bits thus capping it at 64? Not sure for the earlier versions , but at least starting with 205 one can safely ignore this warning - system does perfectly work with more that 64 ptys - personally I have 256 of 'em on most systems - works fine.. The other Q is that probably some application will not go so far searching for the next available pty master - the old screen was an example - but it pretty easy to fix in any given case( they usually define kinda static char array with first letters for the ptys). The other solution could be clone device - but this will kill even more applications - all those with #ifdef BSD work exclusively via old mechanism and it's not the SVR4 based one :( Rashid From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 12:31:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA11837 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:31:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11827 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:31:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02488; Fri, 29 Dec 95 14:38:55 CST Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 29 Dec 95 14:54:58 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 29 Dec 95 14:54:29 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:54:23 +600 CDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: more SCSI thrashing-about Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thus spake Brian Handy (Fri, 29 Dec 1995): | Arrgh! I'm trying to follow this discussion and getting completely shut | down. Too many part numbers, BIOS names and MB manufacturers have been | bantered about and I've gotten completely lost. | | I'm also about to put together a couple of systems. I'm sort of planning | on a P-100 with some sort of SCSI; the onboard NCR was highly recommended | to me as inexpensive and quite sufficient for my needs. | | Now...Larry just recapped things with the following: | | >[...] | > People constantly say that the best inexpensive PCI SCSI busmastering | > cards are those using the NCR 53C810 (or whatever the part number is), | > but even there, your're best advised to buy an original NCR card: | > Symbios Logic PCI Host Bus Adapter SYM8150S (with BIOS) | > or SYM8100S (without BIOS, for MBs | > with the SDMS bios) | >[...] | | These part numbers are lost on me. I've been trying to get an ASUS MB | *and* get the NCR on-board SCSI. I've heard arguments about how the BIOS | won't deal with it and I'll have to boot off a floppy, and (sigh) I even | had a dealer tell me I couldn't do it. If properly implemented, the BIOS _will_ deal with it. I think the confusion stems from the "on-board" terminology. If the SCSI card has the controller BIOS on-board, there's an EPROM that will take care of the SCSI probing at boot-up and enables the card to attempt booting from whatever lves at the start of the first physical drive. Such a card should work in most any PCI motherboard, unless the motherboard itself has other things that FreeBSD won't like. The NCR/Symbios 8105S is such a card. The Adaptec 2940 is another (usually more expensive) one. If the card doesn't, but is NCR-compatible, then the motherboard BIOS takes responsibility for doing what an EPROM-less (sic) card can't do for itself: handle the normal hard drive "ok, let's boot something" sequence. Particularly important when you've told your setup program that drive 0 is "not installed" (basically required for a SCSI drive as C:). The controller chip is still on the card, but the program to run it, isn't. The ASUS SC200 is such a card. It may go by different names if in fact ASUS doesn't roll their own jelly babies (obscure Python humor). If the motherboard itself has a SCSI connector, then _all_ the smarts are on the system board, and it comes down to whether FreeBSD likes the controller chip (it always comes down to that, anyway). This baby is probably somewhat expensive, however. I think the FreeBSD team started implementations with OEMs that would reveal the secrets of their controllers and not bitch about the source code being published, which is why the NCR stuff is perhaps further along than Adaptec and some of the newer cards. Only my opinion. | | At the same time...if I look at the ASUS www page, I see that the | PCI-SC2000 controller comes with the following claim: | | "Works with ANY ASUS Mb." As true as anything is, but ASUS seems to shun contact with ordinary mortals, just dealers -- their voice mail is the pits. Or maybe I need to change aftershave. | | Now, I wanted 512KB cache w/ Pipeline burst. I don't know if that's | somehow the cause of my problems. | | To wrap things up...can someone explain to me where I'm completely off in | left field? basically, how do I solve this problem and get a nice MB with | the cheap SCSI interface? Sorry if I've confused things: I just had to answer something to M.Smith for attributing Michel's comments to me. But for best performance, a supported PCI SCSI card should do busmastering: it cuts down on processor overhead, and makes the box that much more responsive. AFAIK, the ASUS, NCR, and Adaptec cards all fit this bill (listed in increasing order of $$ based on US prices). Others are supported, too. Other people make SCSI cards based on the NCR chip. From what I've seen on the list, Acculogic and Modular Circuit Technology cards also work. I can dig up the posts of people that claim this if you like. | | Thanks for your help, and THANKS for your patience. | Not at all -- sorry that I made the thing harder than it should be. Something like the ASUS P55TP4 motherboard and SC200 card should do just fine. Add XE to the ASUS board to get an even higher performance model. My budget doesn't permit this yet (a 486PCI and Symbios card now), but I'll probably get the ASUS XE board later. Corrections welcomed, as always. And this list is still less confrontational than the Novell or Sun groups, as a rule. hth, larry From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 12:32:52 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA11966 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:32:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.dsu.edu (ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu [138.247.32.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA11959 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ghelmer@localhost) by alpha.dsu.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA00965; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:32:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:32:33 -0600 (CST) From: Guy Helmer To: Scott Northcutt cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gateway? In-Reply-To: <199512280701.CAA27262@nameserver.1stresource.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Scott Northcutt wrote: > Howdy folks, > Off hand, does anyone know about the FreeBSD track record of systems > from Gateway 2000. I've got a Gateway Pentium 75 (40M RAM, 300M partition > for BSD, PCI, unsure of exact graphics card) at work which is fairly > successfully running 2.1 but not X yet. If anyone else has gotten a Gateway > to go (particularly X with the ps2 type mouse), please pass along any do's, > don'ts, hints and caveats. Thanks! > virtual regards, > --J. Scott Northcutt I have had good luck with a couple of GW2K's. I have a P4D-66 with 64MB RAM & 2 Adaptec 2940 SCSI controllers as a news server and a P5-90 with 64MB RAM and 1 2940 as our site's main timesharing system. FreeBSD 2.0.5 installed on both without problems. Both systems have been solid -- the 486 has been running for over a year now, and the Pentium has been running since July -- except for a problem I created on the 486 due to an apparent incompatibility between two different SCSI drives on the same SCSI bus. With both systems, I was able to run X with a kernel configured to recognize the PS/2-style mouse without any problems. I did have trouble with keyboard lockups on the 486 when I was using FreeBSD 1.1.5.1, but I haven't noticed the problem under 2.x. Unfortunately, we don't have any better luck with Gateway tech support than anyone else even though we're only a couple hours up I-29 from the factory... (We have a lot of GW2K machines for our Windows users) Guy Helmer, Dakota State University Computing Services - ghelmer@alpha.dsu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 12:43:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA12596 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:43:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12591 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:43:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id MAA07508; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA29362; Fri, 29 Dec 95 12:42:36 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9512292042.AA29362@tera.com> Subject: Re: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:42:49 -0800 (PST) Cc: dyson@freefall.freebsd.org, craigs@venus.os.com, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, deasey@netpath.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512291618.IAA02715@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Dec 29, 95 08:18:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to David Greenman: > > > I'd like to second this notion. The -questions mailing list has become very > hostile recently to new users, and this is exactly what *should not* happen. > The -questions mailing list was designed and created specifically for new > users who have "new user" questions. If you are on this list and have a low > threshold for these types of questions, please do all of us (and most > importantly our new users) a favor and either unsubscribe or answer the > questions politely and with high "new user" tolerance. We have many other > mailing lists which are not new-user oriented (such as -hackers, -current, > -bugs, etc) where your energy can be much better spent. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > Well said. void * soapbox() { ``Old-timers'' should have patience, certainly, and so should all the newcomers to this list; to the Project as a whole. If someone answers my questions brusquely I consider the source rather than explode. I've been into uNix going on 20 years--in fact at Berkeley where this began. But I've been away in System5-land for so long that the BSD model is a whole new ballgame. It's quite a (re-)learning curve. The whole movement is valid: *BSD, Linux, GNU, the Andrew Project, Project Gutenberg, and vastly more. If the whole globe got along as well as most of the net does, most problems would disappear. Maybe after a few hundred more millennia of evolution... . Meanwhile, people, remember the hallmarks of cooperation: patience, tolerance, kindness. } gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 12:55:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA13123 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [199.166.238.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13112 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 12:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA05890; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:52:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:52:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: David Greenman cc: steve hovey , Craig Huckabee , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pty limit of 64 In-Reply-To: <199512291831.KAA02819@corbin.Root.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, David Greenman wrote: > As for ptys, 32 units are fully supported for each of ttyp, q, r, and s, >and if you're not using xterms, another 32 ptys each are supported for P, Q, R, > and S...for a total of 256 ptys. > Okay, simple question...is there a way of telling xterms to use particular ptys, namely those in the ttyP+ range? Freeing up the 128 from p-s? Since, from your statement above, I assume that P-S are not available for such things as telnet/rlogin/etc? Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 13:07:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA13675 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:07:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM ([198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13669 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA11235; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:04:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:04:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system monitoring tools for X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > I got disktools 2.0 compiled, which is great for monitoring > your disk space usuage, but the closest I've come to stuff like > CPU usuage/swap/memory/etc is sysstats (which, quite frankly, is a drab > black and white little box on teh screen that tells nothing), or > top, which isn't really what I'm looking for... try xperfmon++ its a port and a package. shows user,sys,idle cpu free memory, disk transfers, interrupts, packets in, packets out, collisions, and nfs client,server calls. Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 13:17:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA14249 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [199.166.238.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14232 Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA06121; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:16:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:16:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-Sender: scrappy@hub.org To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: system monitoring tools for X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > I got disktools 2.0 compiled, which is great for monitoring > > your disk space usuage, but the closest I've come to stuff like > > CPU usuage/swap/memory/etc is sysstats (which, quite frankly, is a drab > > black and white little box on teh screen that tells nothing), or > > top, which isn't really what I'm looking for... > > try xperfmon++ its a port and a package. shows user,sys,idle cpu > free memory, disk transfers, interrupts, packets in, packets out, > collisions, and nfs client,server calls. > Got it, works beautifully and give exactly what I've been looking for. Hadn't thought to look in sysutils for an x11 package though :( Thanks.. Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 13:21:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA14492 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from winky.reno.nv.us (winky.reno.nv.us [140.174.194.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14487 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winky.reno.nv.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA00944 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:20:48 -0800 Message-Id: <199512292120.NAA00944@winky.reno.nv.us> X-Authentication-Warning: winky.reno.nv.us: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NETBSD ccd driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Dec 1995 09:55:47 PST." <199512291755.JAA07411@mofo.emergent.com> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:20:47 -0800 From: Eric Blood Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk What is the NetBSD ccd driver? Eric Blood eblood@cs.unr.edu, http://www.cs.unr.edu/~eblood From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 13:21:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA14521 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM ([198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14504 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA11270; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:20:19 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:20:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Richard Lyon cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: popclient In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Richard Lyon wrote: > I remember seeing some mention that popclient was not working correctly. > What is the current status of the popclient port? Are there any alternatives? > > My ISP does not support IMAP so POP is the only way I can go. use popclient release 3.0b5. an earlier version 2.12, i think is badly broken and will throw your mail away....thats what it did to me. ;( Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 14:29:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA18522 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:29:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.104]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18517 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:29:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00218; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:29:49 -0800 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:29:49 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Annelise Anderson cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Installation Problem In-Reply-To: <01HZD0H2U80I008RES@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Annelise Anderson wrote: > Now when I attempt to boot (after the options to use setup, to use > the SCSI utility, and to do something with the GSI 11 floppy controller), > the next message (in big letters) is NO ROM BASIC, SYSTEM HALTED. > > It boots fine from a floppy, but of course the boot manager doesn't > come up. You need to use FDISK to reset the active partition back to the Partition Manager slice. Classic problem with the active partition getting reset back to FreeBSD's (or nothing), and the system halting. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 14:32:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA18823 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:32:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper101151.iafrica.com [196.7.101.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18818 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00287 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:25:54 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199512292225.AAA00287@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: PPP glitches To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:25:53 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I set up user PPP a few days ago and have been having a few problems. Basically, everything works fine during the first dial-in. But reconnecting later sometimes results in one of two error messages: 1) SIOCAIFADDR: File exists 2) rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf0509d00) was (0xf0506980) (the hex numbers vary) I think the first error can be prevented by using 'route' to delete stuff left over from the previous session, but the second error isn't as predictable. One difficulty is that neither my IP address nor the address of the ISP gateway is fixed. The gateway IPs are 196.7.101.66 (usually) and 192.96.88.112 (sometimes). My own assigned IPs are all over the place.... The main stuff changed to get PPP running was: [/etc/hosts] 127.0.0.0 localhost 10.0.0.0 eac.iafrica.com eac [/etc/sysconfig] ifconfig_tun0="inet eac.iafrica.com 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00" [/etc/ppp/ppp.conf] set ifaddr 0/0 0/0 Maybe I shouldn't complain: this all works fine if I keep rebooting before reconnecting to my ISP. But my my guess is this _isn't_ as good as it gets.... If anyone has any light to throw on all of this, I'd appreciate it. TIA From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 15:09:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA20877 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from eztravel.com (eztravel.com [205.179.24.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20872 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ez@localhost) by eztravel.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00453 for questions@Freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:05:41 -0800 From: EZ Travel Message-Id: <199512292305.PAA00453@eztravel.com> Subject: test:please disregard To: questions@Freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:05:40 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@Freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Please ignore this test. thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 15:10:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA20930 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [199.166.238.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20924 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA06938; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:09:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:09:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-Sender: scrappy@hub.org To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: CPU question (%ages) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I'm running xperfmon++ over here to watch the systems, and am a little confused. Its reporting stuff like 21% for user, 44% for System and 90% idle... I realize that what its reporting is the peaks, and not what it is currently at, but how accurate is this? What exactly is 'System'? Is that mainly kernel functions? root processes? And User? Just trying to get a full understanding of how exactly I should be interpreting these stats... Thanks... Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 15:14:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA21089 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21083 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA14315; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:14:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA02874; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:14:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512292314.PAA02874@corbin.Root.COM> To: Eric Blood cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NETBSD ccd driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Dec 95 13:20:47 PST." <199512292120.NAA00944@winky.reno.nv.us> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:14:10 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >What is the NetBSD ccd driver? It's the "concatenated disk" driver. It give you the ability to combine multiple physical disks into one logical volume. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 15:17:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA21204 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21199 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:17:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA14324; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:17:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA02889; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:17:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512292317.PAA02889@corbin.Root.COM> To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: steve hovey , Craig Huckabee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pty limit of 64 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 29 Dec 95 15:52:39 EST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:17:07 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, David Greenman wrote: > >> As for ptys, 32 units are fully supported for each of ttyp, q, r, and s, >>and if you're not using xterms, another 32 ptys each are supported for P, Q, R, >> and S...for a total of 256 ptys. >> > Okay, simple question...is there a way of telling xterms to use >particular ptys, namely those in the ttyP+ range? Freeing up the 128 from >p-s? The problem is that xterm as written does not know about P-S. It only knows about p-s. There's no way to work around this except by modifying the xterm source to teach it about P-S. > Since, from your statement above, I assume that P-S are not available >for such things as telnet/rlogin/etc? Just the other way around - P-S can only be used for telnet/rlogin/etc; they can't be used for xterms. If you're not using xterms, then you need not worry. :-) -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 15:36:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA22749 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:36:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from yoda.fdt.net (root@yoda.fdt.net [205.229.48.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22742 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:36:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn003-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.4]) by yoda.fdt.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA31894; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:36:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:35:45 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: Robert Nordier cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP glitches In-Reply-To: <199512292225.AAA00287@eac.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Robert Nordier wrote: > I set up user PPP a few days ago and have been having > a few problems. > > Basically, everything works fine during the first > dial-in. But reconnecting later sometimes results in > one of two error messages: > > 1) SIOCAIFADDR: File exists > 2) rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf0509d00) was (0xf0506980) When I get this error message (rtinit etc), I type deny pred1 and it goes away. Don't know why it works, as there is very limited documentation, but it does. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 15:41:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA23312 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:41:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23307 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00652; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:54:15 GMT Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:54:14 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Stephen Couchman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199512281813.NAA10078@io.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: > When I try using pppd, my ISP and my system try to negotiate the connection, > but my ISP eventually hangs up. I am using PPP and Trumpet Winsock on my PC > with my ISP with no problems. Try changing tcp_extensions from YES to NO in /etc/sysconfig. James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 15:41:46 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA23372 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23353 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:41:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00711; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:53:58 GMT Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:53:58 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Justin Seger cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing trouble In-Reply-To: <199512272116.QAA25912@iii1.iii.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Justin Seger wrote: > BTW-Can anyone recommend a good book on IP routing, etc...? TCP/IP Illustrated Volume 1 by W. Richard Stevens, published by Addison-Wesley, is probably the best introduction to TCP/IP. When (if? 8-) you've mastered this and if you like reading lots of source code, Vol. 2 walks through the entire BSD4.4 implementation of TCP/IP (the one from which FreeBSD's implementation derives). Apparently there's another volume about to be released, but I don't know what's in it yet. James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 15:41:57 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA23421 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:41:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23410 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:41:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00698; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:42:33 GMT Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:42:31 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Dominic Russell <102556.543@compuserve.com> cc: Help! Subject: Re: Problems with installation of FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <951227200844_102556.543_HHV62-1@CompuServe.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On 27 Dec 1995, Dominic Russell wrote: > Intel 486/33MHz CPU > Mother Board SIS with VLB bus > AMI BIOS (no support for LBA mode) > 128KB chache > 4MB of memory > 540MB Quantum hard disk (master) > 100MB Teac hard disk (slave) > EIDE controler > > Is it possible that my computer don't have enough memory to run FreeBSD? Is my > hard disk incompatible? If you find anything, please let me know. Yes, I'm afraid you will need a minimum of 5MB of memory to install 2.1.0, although it will run in 4MB once installed (perhaps you can borrow some from somewhere for the installation?). The hard disk should work, but only as IDE (ie without taking full advance of the 'Enhanced' features). James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 15:42:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA23474 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23457 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00752; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:32:42 GMT Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:32:42 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Emil Mikhles cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Emil Mikhles wrote: > Hi, it appears that I have a Matsushita/Panasonic CR-504, and FreeBSD > does not support it. Please send me the instructions on how to do it > through DOS, since the CD-ROM is an unsupported type. That's strange, I have a Matshita CR-504 ST22 CD-Rom working here with no problems. Does it get detected when you boot the installation floppy? (This is a SCSI device - are we talking about the same thing here?) Anyway, to install from a DOS hard disk, copy the files off the CD. At a minimum, you'll need the bin.?? files, and the ssys.??, manpages.?? and info.?? are strongly recommended. Note you must keep the directory structure, something like c:\freebsd\bin c:\freebsd\src c:\freebsd\manpages c:\freebsd\info James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 15:44:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA23751 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23641 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00662; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:57:14 GMT Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:57:13 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: htmlpro@htmlpro.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A few Questions (PS/2 mice, INETD) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Doug White wrote: > See the FreeBSD Handbook, section 5, "Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel". I > assume you have Web access...:-) Or, if not, it's in /usr/share/doc/handbook in both plain text and HTML formats 8-) James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 15:44:32 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA23812 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23803 Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:44:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00735; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:15:01 GMT Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:15:01 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Larry Dolinar cc: questions@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cmdtool scrolling, owplace(1)... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Larry Dolinar wrote: [discussion re cmdtool and ol[v]wm snipped] > Now I want to get at the source for this little beast. I know, > I'll be sorry later, but I'm a programmer among my other dubious > abilities. Even funnier, the man page for cmdtool mentions textedit (so > they borrowed the manpage from Sun -- no surprise). And check the info > pages in $OPENWINHOME/lib/help: workspace.info talks about the entire Sun > package: filemgr, mailtool -- this is driving me nuts. > > OK, so what gives? Where should I take my tragic tale, XFree-questions? > Is there such a thing? Hmm. I was going to suggest contacting the port maintainer, but for some reason he/she seems to have been overcome by a fit of shyness and omitted to put their email address in the Makefile. I hope you don't mind, but I've CC'd this to ports in case anyone there can help tracker down the elusive porter 8-) Cheers James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 16:23:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA28282 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:23:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [199.166.238.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28243 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:22:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA07564; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:21:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:21:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-Sender: scrappy@hub.org To: David Greenman cc: steve hovey , Craig Huckabee , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pty limit of 64 In-Reply-To: <199512292317.PAA02889@corbin.Root.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, David Greenman wrote: > >On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, David Greenman wrote: > > > >> As for ptys, 32 units are fully supported for each of ttyp, q, r, and s, > >>and if you're not using xterms, another 32 ptys each are supported for P, Q, R, > >> and S...for a total of 256 ptys. > >> > > Okay, simple question...is there a way of telling xterms to use > >particular ptys, namely those in the ttyP+ range? Freeing up the 128 from > >p-s? > > The problem is that xterm as written does not know about P-S. It only knows > about p-s. There's no way to work around this except by modifying the xterm > source to teach it about P-S. > Ack, sorry about that...I misread your original...I thought it said 'if you're using...', totally blinded to the 'not' part of it. Sincerest apologies...:( Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 16:27:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA28800 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from jthome.jthome.com (jthome.jthome.com [199.232.37.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA28793 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by jthome.jthome.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA06386 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:27:17 -0500 Received: from beatnic.iii.net (beatnic.iii.net [199.232.40.4]) by jthome.jthome.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA03712 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:01:35 -0500 Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [192.216.222.4]) by beatnic.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA11797 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:38:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03822 Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:07:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA03801 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:07:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from jthome.jthome.com (jthome.jthome.com [199.232.37.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03791 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 10:07:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by jthome.jthome.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA03142 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:07:16 -0500 From: Jeff Tyler Message-Id: <199512291807.NAA03142@jthome.jthome.com> Subject: Micronics JX 30WB motherboard To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 13:07:14 -0500 (EST) Organization: Never touch the stuff ... Location: Eight miles from the rude bridge that arched the flow ... Phone: (508)-440-8624 System: FreeBSD jthome.jthome.com 2.0.5-RELEASE X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking at upgrading to a Micronics JX 30WB a486DX4-100, anyone have any experiance with this board and CPU combo, good or bad ? TIA -- ======================================================================== |Jeff S. Tyler Pencom System Administration| |PSA all the way ! [At Digital] 508-486-5369 | |jeff@jthome.com [Home phone/fax] 508-440-8624/8625 | |jtyler@pencom.com [Pager] 1-800-759-8888 249-5568 | | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | |Tis better to have hacked and crashed than never to have hacked at all| ======================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 16:30:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA29168 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoover.stanford.edu (hoover.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA29142 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01HZDWP73VJ40088PF@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:30:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:30:40 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: 2.1 Problem To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <01HZDWP74ETU0088PF@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@FreeBSD.org" X-VMS-Cc: ANDRSN MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The OS2 boot manager is now running again....the second SCSI drive has two primary partitions, one unformatted and one on which FreeBSD resides; the first identified as the D drive, but FreeBSD has no letter assigned to it. It still boots, so I guess it doesn't matter. However, FreeBSD freezes up--a surprise to me, as 2.0.5 (on my office machine) never does this. 2.1 is freezing up on exit (e.g., if I do shutdown -r now, the discs sync, but nothing else happens) and on some commands, e.g. if I ask for lsdev. I have to turn the machine off--Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't do anything. Any suggestions about what might be wrong would be appreciated. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 16:35:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA29878 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from diamond.sierra.net (root@diamond.sierra.net [204.94.39.235]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA29873 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from carlton.sierra.net by diamond.sierra.net with SMTP id AA21122 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:35:03 -0800 Message-Id: <199512300035.AA21122@diamond.sierra.net> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 95 16:35:08 -0800 From: Carlton Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: OK, so I'm doing something stupid... X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook145.html#264 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I'm trying to get my FreeBSD machine to accept dialup, and I've gotten the modem to pick up the line. My DTR light is on, and I can't seem to get my FreeBSD server to respond to the call. Is there something I still need to do, to tell FreeBSD to look for incoming calls once the modem picks them up? Maybe this is some kind of network configuration? I do have a terminal (Windows Telnet) on the local area network, that FreeBSD seems to accept connections from, just fine... Help! I must be doing something incredibly stupid! carlton@sierra.net From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 16:40:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA00172 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA00141 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 16:39:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from holodeck.cc.vt.edu (holodeck.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.28]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA12823 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:39:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199512300039.TAA12823@quackerjack.cc.vt.edu> Received: from jonathon.va.us by holodeck.cc.vt.edu with SMTP (8.6.12/16.2) id TAA29083; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:39:52 -0500 X-Sender: dswain@mail.bev.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:42:56 +0500 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: dswain@bev.net (Jim Swain) Subject: Ver. 2.1 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I have a Gateway2000 P5-133 on which I run Win95 and FreeBSD 2.1. Recently, I had to reinstall Win95. Now I no longer have the boot manager that would boot me up to FreeBSD. How can I reinstall one or write one? Any help is appreciated. Jim Swain From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 17:30:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA02678 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 17:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from madison.tdsnet.com (root@madison.tdsnet.com [204.246.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02663 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 17:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from .tdsnet.com (waun0-a05.waun.tdsnet.com [204.246.2.38]) by madison.tdsnet.com (8.6.12/CICNet) with SMTP id TAA26612 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:29:02 -0600 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 95 16:18:05 PST From: Bill Taylor Subject: Strange 2.1 build fail, WC CDROM To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Chameleon V0.05, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This is very puzzling. I have a packard bell pentium(133) with a double ide controler. I have a floppy and a Colorado/HP t1000 tape unit on the floppy controller. The first half of the ide cntrl(wdc0) has two drives which get reported as a conner perpherals 2114 meg disk. The matushita cdrom and a seagate 850meg disk are on wdc1. I have svga, 16 meg ram, packard bell modem/sounnd card, and a PCI 8432 ethernet card. The floppy build (atapi) runs just fine for the 850 meg drive wd3. It loads up fine annd both wdc0 at 14 irq and 0xwhatever is there AND wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 at irq 15. When I boot from the hard disk after the build, it can not find wdc1 and the world comes to a screeching halt. If I build using a 850 meg partition on this conner peripherals double/single disk thing. The system locks after building the file systems and starting to transfer system image. The fellow I talk to at Walnut Creek could not understand why the geneic kernel would have any more trouble than the floppy kernel at finding both parts of the controller. Help please....... ------------------------------------- Name: Bill Taylor E-mail: Bill Taylor Date: 12/29/95 Time: 16:18:05 This message was sent by Chameleon ------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 18:05:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA03914 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03909 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id VAA03963; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:05:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:05:37 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson To: "freebsd.questions" Subject: ppp from shell, & starting X Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I hope this is a simple question. When I'm in the shell (csh text display), and run iijppp from a freshly booted system, I get the following message (below is a sample from past log entries): Dec 17 08:59:50 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf054e500) was (0xf04dee00) Dec 18 11:22:24 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf051fe00) was (0xf04dee00) Dec 28 21:12:12 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf04ebc80) was (0xf04dee00) Dec 29 17:06:01 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf053f680) was (0xf04dee00) At this point I simply close & quit PPP, and restart PPP. Then all is well. ncftp, lynx, pine, gopher, irc, rlogin, telnet, archie, all work. In fact, I can close & quit, & restart ppp again & again. Its not until I reboot the system and run ppp that the 'rtinit' message appears again. Any processes I try to run while in this 'first-run' ppp mode Won't work. This is not really a problem by itself (simply Close & Quit & restart ppp) But, when I finish with ppp (csh text shell), and try to 'startx', I get the following message: TRANS(SocketUNIXConnect) () can't connect: errno = 61 waiting for X server to begin accepting connections . TRANS(SocketUNIXConnect) () can't connect: errno = 61 .. TRANS(SocketUNIXConnect) () can't connect: errno = 61 ..TRANS(SocketCreateListener): failed to bind listener TRANS(SocketINETCreateListener): TRANS(SocketCreateListener) () failed TRANS(MakeAllCOTSServerListeners) failed to create listener for tcp Fatal server error: Failed to establish all listening sockets TRANS(SocketUNIXConnect) () can't connect: errno = 61 giving up. xinit: Connection refused (errno 61): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. Xwindows won't run After I've run ppp (from csh text shell). To run X, I have to reboot, Then startx works without any problems. Again, this is not really a problem, just annoying, having to reboot everytime I want to startx after a ppp session. ( 'kill -1 1' & 'kill -HUP 1' doesn't solve this problem ) So my first question is, Does the rtinit message have anything to do with my Not being able to startx after running ppp from the text shell? And of course, how can I solve this problem? My second question has to do with running ppp from Xwindows. Currently I have the ppp files in /usr/sbin, so, to run ppp, I run it as root. Not a problem from the shell, I've got all of those vc's. However, I want to run X, ppp & netscape as a normal user. (ppp & netscape work fine if I startx as root). Question 2: Can I simply place the ppp files: /usr/sbin -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 86016 Nov 16 04:57 ppp -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 61440 Nov 16 04:57 pppd -r-xr-sr-x 1 bin kmem 12288 Nov 16 04:57 pppstats in my ~/home/bin directory, and expect it to run without any complaints. Thank you Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0 486DX2/66 - 1gig IDE drive - 8meg ram <---<---<---<---<---< From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 18:12:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA04089 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04084 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id SAA28412 for (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:12:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512300212.SAA28412@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:12:11 -0800 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Sysinstall Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How can I restart sysinstall once FreeBSD has been installed? Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 19:18:03 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA07649 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:18:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from wireless.Stanford.EDU (wireless.Stanford.EDU [36.10.0.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA07632 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lightning.Stanford.EDU (tip-mp9-ncs-16.Stanford.EDU [36.173.0.175]) by wireless.Stanford.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA01368 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:17:48 -0800 Message-ID: <30E4AF60.41C67EA6@wireless.stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:17:52 -0800 From: Bora Akyol Organization: Stanford University X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Boot Loader when both IDE and SCSI present. How to Install? X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, I have just installed FreeBSD 2.1 on my Intel Pentium System. I have an NCR SCSI controller and IDE controllers both on the PCI bus and the BIOS supports the NCR. Now I have two IDE drives (one on each controller) and a SCSI drive and FreeBSD is on my SCSI drive. When I installed FreeBSD I chose to install the boot manager but that did not work apparently. Can someone please tell me how to make this boot loader work. I can now boot FreeBSD via the floppy but that is kind of awkward and requires me to be very alert. By the way I type hd(2,a)/kernel at the install floppy boot prompt. Thanks Bora akyol@leland.stanford.EDU ps. Basically I want to know how to install a bootloader on wd0 so that it will boot either dos which is on wd0 or sd0. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 20:01:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA25444 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from flinch.io.org (flinch.io.org [198.133.36.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA25435 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from taob@localhost) by flinch.io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02344; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:59:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:59:08 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@flinch To: James FitzGibbon cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Commandline switch vty ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, James FitzGibbon wrote: > > Does anyone know of a way to change the current vty from the command > line ? I'd like to have a client's system I'm building have one vty, > and switch to it's login prompt automatically upon bootup (there is no > ttyv0, just console and ttyv1) If you are using the pcvt console driver, you can use the scon(1) utility and its -c switch to change consoles. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 20:09:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA25652 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA25647 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:08:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA01413 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:07:46 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199512292007.UAA01413@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: can't shutdown To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:07:45 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Due to some applications problems, I have to automatically reboot my BSD 2.0.5 system every 4 hours. I have setup a /bin/sh script to do "shutdown -r +1". The following messages were displayed after 1 minutes: Dec 27 20:31:32 sysx shutdown: reboot by root: Dec 27 20:31:35 sysx syslogd: exiting on signal 15 and then the system just hung there. It did not go into disk resync and reboot at all. I have also tried various ways shown below: - reboot - su << EOF /sbin/shutdown -r +0 EOF - etc And, all ends up with the same result - hung without going into disk resync and reboot. However, if I enter on the console, the system will go into disk ...resync.... and then reboot ! Why ? Do the reboot and shutdown command need some kind of "tty" operation? I want to be able to reboot my system remotely. What do I have to do ? I have no problem doing halt, reboot and shutdown on the console, or in a rlogin or telnet session. but I can't use a script or system() call to do the same. Why ? Thank you for your help. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 20:16:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA25945 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:16:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA25940 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:16:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id UAA02234 (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:16:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512300416.UAA02234@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:16:06 -0800 To: Jaye Mathisen From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Re: Sysinstall Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 06:30 PM 95.12.29 -0800, you wrote: > >/stand/sysinstall > > This starts the program on VTY2, but the function keys and arrow keys don't work. The menu appears but I cannot access any of the items. Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 20:30:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA26657 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from flinch.io.org (flinch.io.org [198.133.36.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA26643 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from taob@localhost) by flinch.io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA02392; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 23:28:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 23:28:33 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@flinch To: Yuri Gindin cc: Frank Kelly , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quotas on v2.1? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 15 Dec 1995, Yuri Gindin wrote: > > It works for me. Recompile the kernel with options QUOTA > see man pages for quotaon (edit /etc/fstab) > reboot and use edquota to edit quotas. I've heard rumblings that quotas are only honoured on the root filesystem, and not on other mounted filesystems. I hope this is outdated information. :) I need to export seven 4-gig filesystems to NFS clients, all with quotas enabled for about 10000 users in total. Any known problems with that (especially concerning the large fs size, NFS export and number of users)? -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 20:42:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA27744 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from flinch.io.org (flinch.io.org [198.133.36.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA27722 Fri, 29 Dec 1995 20:41:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from taob@localhost) by flinch.io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA02491; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 23:40:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 23:40:33 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@flinch To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: "Marc G. Fournier" , FREEBSD-PORTS-L , FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: Re: system monitoring tools for X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > try xperfmon++ its a port and a package. shows user,sys,idle cpu > free memory, disk transfers, interrupts, packets in, packets out, > collisions, and nfs client,server calls. xperfmon-1.1.tgz from the packages-2.1 collection gives me a "xperfmon++: undefined symbols: _total" error when I attempt to run it on a 2.1.0-RELEASE/XFree86 3.1.2 system. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 21:02:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA28746 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:02:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA28741 Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-15.net7e.io.org [204.92.52.15]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA24114; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:02:06 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:02:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199512300502.AAA24114@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Stephen Couchman Subject: ijppp cannot talk to modem (/dev/cuaa1) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, jmb@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to get ijppp (user ppp) to work, but I am running into one problem after another. I have taken the advice given to me lately concerning my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file. This seems to setup my modem, etc. properly since the 'show modem' command within ijppp displays the expected results. The problem, however, is that ijppp cannot seem to talk to my modem. The modem is connected to /dev/cuaa1. I can use 'tip' to connect to the modem, and dial out. When I try to use the 'term' command from within ijppp, I get no response from the modem. The RD/SD lights on my modem do not flash. I get the same response if I use the 'dial' command from within ijppp (after starting the program with an ISP name found in my ppp.conf file. BTW, when I use the 'term' or 'dial' command to access the modem using /dev/cuaa1, a 'LCK..cuaa1' file is created in '/var/spool/lock'. Any ideas?? Thanks -- Stephen ______________________________ Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 21:15:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29402 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:15:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [199.166.238.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29364 Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:14:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA11630; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:14:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:14:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-Sender: scrappy@hub.org To: Brian Tao cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , FREEBSD-PORTS-L , FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: Re: system monitoring tools for X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Brian Tao wrote: > On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > > try xperfmon++ its a port and a package. shows user,sys,idle cpu > > free memory, disk transfers, interrupts, packets in, packets out, > > collisions, and nfs client,server calls. > > xperfmon-1.1.tgz from the packages-2.1 collection gives me a > "xperfmon++: undefined symbols: _total" error when I attempt to run it > on a 2.1.0-RELEASE/XFree86 3.1.2 system. I'm running it currently on both 2.1.0R (where it was compiled) as well as 2.2-CURRENT (compiled under 2.1.0R...which might account for why nfs-client stats aren't coming up *hrmmm*...have to recompile that puppy, me thinks) Want to grab a copy of my binary and see if it works over there? Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 21:42:45 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA00685 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:42:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.178]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA00679 Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:42:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00455; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:42:15 -0800 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 21:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Stephen Couchman cc: questions@freebsd.org, jmb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ijppp cannot talk to modem (/dev/cuaa1) In-Reply-To: <199512300502.AAA24114@io.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: > I am trying to get ijppp (user ppp) to work, but I am running into one > problem after another. I recall it taking me some time before I could get ppp to work right. Keep at it... > I have taken the advice given to me lately concerning my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf > file. This seems to setup my modem, etc. properly since the 'show modem' > command within ijppp displays the expected results. OK.. > The problem, however, is that ijppp cannot seem to talk to my modem. > > The modem is connected to /dev/cuaa1. I can use 'tip' to connect to the > modem, and dial out. > When I try to use the 'term' command from within ijppp, I get no response > from the modem. The RD/SD lights on my modem do not flash. I get the same > response if I use the 'dial' command from within ijppp (after starting the > program with an ISP name found in my ppp.conf file. Now this is a strange one. MAKE SURE that ppp is pointing to /dev/cuaa1. Scrutinize everything closely. > BTW, when I use the 'term' or 'dial' command to access the modem using > /dev/cuaa1, a 'LCK..cuaa1' file is created in '/var/spool/lock'. That should be happening, to keep other apps (ie uucp, seyon) from using the modem at the same time you are. Can't help much here, I'm no wiz when it comes to unix communications. I have enough problems getting my laptop to recognize my PC :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 22:24:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA02204 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from retcam.snu.ac.kr (retcam.snu.ac.kr [147.46.69.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA02195 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:24:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by retcam.snu.ac.kr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA05449; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:21:53 +0900 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:21:53 +0900 From: Jun Gyu-Chang Message-Id: <199512300621.PAA05449@retcam.snu.ac.kr> To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, there.. I have encountered some trivial problem during setting up of anonymous ftp. I think I made all the directories and necessary files properly. But, when I connect as anonymous, "ls" does not shows proper ownership. (user does not appear but group does..) d--x--x--x 2 0 operator 512 Dec 15 07:40 bin d--x--x--x 2 0 operator 512 Dec 30 03:38 etc drwxrwxrwx 2 0 operator 512 Dec 28 05:59 incoming dr-xr-xr-x 3 0 operator 512 Dec 13 12:38 pub What shall I do? PS. followings are the content of passwd and group file. retcam# more passwdo root:*:0:0::/:/usr/bin/false bin:*:2:2::/:/usr/bin/false ftp:*:500:1:Anonymous FTP user:/usr/ftp:/usr/bin/false retcam# more group operator:*:0: anonymous:*:1: bin:*:2: other:*:3: From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 22:25:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA02260 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:25:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from retcam.snu.ac.kr (retcam.snu.ac.kr [147.46.69.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA02249 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:25:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by retcam.snu.ac.kr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA05463 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:22:49 +0900 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:22:49 +0900 From: Jun Gyu-Chang Message-Id: <199512300622.PAA05463@retcam.snu.ac.kr> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: [Q] anonymous FTP setup Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, there.. I have encountered some trivial problem during setting up of anonymous ftp. I think I made all the directories and necessary files properly. But, when I connect as anonymous, "ls" does not shows proper ownership. (user does not appear but group does..) d--x--x--x 2 0 operator 512 Dec 15 07:40 bin d--x--x--x 2 0 operator 512 Dec 30 03:38 etc drwxrwxrwx 2 0 operator 512 Dec 28 05:59 incoming dr-xr-xr-x 3 0 operator 512 Dec 13 12:38 pub What shall I do? PS. followings are the content of passwd and group file. retcam# more passwdo root:*:0:0::/:/usr/bin/false bin:*:2:2::/:/usr/bin/false ftp:*:500:1:Anonymous FTP user:/usr/ftp:/usr/bin/false retcam# more group operator:*:0: anonymous:*:1: bin:*:2: other:*:3: From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 22:59:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA03504 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:59:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03498 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:59:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com ([128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id WAA06477 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:59:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA19311; Fri, 29 Dec 95 22:58:28 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9512300658.AA19311@tera.com> Subject: audio To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:58:27 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk A bit more on my trying to get the nas-1.2 suite working. I rebooted and, upon setting the driver in the bg (au -aa&) got the warning that ``the PCM device'' isn't installed. I've got my SoundBlaster working (sb0 or irq 10). The files in i386/conf say something about ``sb'' being the PCM device. Now I'm lost. Glad to have the sound card working, but it would be nice to have the network audio stuff to give me some control; let me do conversions; see the shapes of waves, and so on. Anybody out there who knows about this stuff?? gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Dec 29 23:33:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA04922 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 23:33:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (wedge.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04905 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 23:33:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id SAA24265; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:33:08 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:33:07 +1100 (EST) From: Carey Nairn To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: mSQL under 2.1.0-RELEASE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk has anyone compiled msql-1.0.10 under 2.1 yet ? I just tried and got about halfway through the msql directory when it blew up with the following messages: --> [makedepend] directory <-- [makedepend] done --> [regexp] directory <-- [regexp] done --> [common] directory <-- [common] done --> [msql] directory *** Signal 10 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. when I run make with a -dA switch it looks like the make is failing where yacc should make msql_yacc.c from msql_yacc.y. This is what I get... SuffFindDeps (msql_yacc.o) trying msql_yacc.c...got it msql_yacc.o:@ = msql_yacc.o msql_yacc.o:* = msql_yacc using existing source msql_yacc.c applying .c -> .o to "msql_yacc.o" SuffFindDeps (msql_yacc.c) trying msql_yacc.y...got it msql_yacc.c:@ = msql_yacc.c msql_yacc.c:* = msql_yacc using existing source msql_yacc.y applying .y -> .c to "msql_yacc.c" SuffFindDeps (msql_yacc.y) msql_yacc.y:@ = msql_yacc.y msql_yacc.y:* = msql_yacc Searching for msql_yacc.y...in '.' msql_yacc.y:@ = msql_yacc.y msql_yacc.y:* = msql_yacc msql_yacc.c:< = msql_yacc.y Examining msql_yacc.y...modified 23:11:27 Oct 2, 1995...up-to-date. msql_yacc.o:< = msql_yacc.c Examining msql_yacc.c...non-existent...modified before source...out-of-date. msql_yacc.c:> = msql_yacc.y msql_yacc.c:? = msql_yacc.y *** Signal 10 since I am no expert on yacc I thought someone might be able to help... thanks, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 00:41:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA07220 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:41:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07215 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:41:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA05309; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:41:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA00642; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:49:49 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199512300749.IAA00642@mordillo> Subject: Re: Quotas on v2.1? To: taob@io.org (Brian Tao) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:49:48 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Tao" at Dec 29, 95 11:28:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hasn't Brian Tao said ? ... > > On Fri, 15 Dec 1995, Yuri Gindin wrote: > > > > It works for me. Recompile the kernel with options QUOTA > > see man pages for quotaon (edit /etc/fstab) > > reboot and use edquota to edit quotas. > > I've heard rumblings that quotas are only honoured on the root > filesystem, and not on other mounted filesystems. I hope this is > outdated information. :) I need to export seven 4-gig filesystems to > NFS clients, all with quotas enabled for about 10000 users in total. > Any known problems with that (especially concerning the large fs size, > NFS export and number of users)? i think quota over nfs is'nt supported in FreeBSD (and in some other unices too - for instace Digital UNIX) - i'll add the rpc.rquotad from NetBSD in the next days to -current - but this will currently only be used for _displaying_ the quota over nfs - but maybe there's someone who will hack the kernel nfs code to support quota via nfs and rpc.rquotad (i think linux has it - either in the latest kernels - or in extra patches) t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 00:41:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA07255 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07235 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA05333; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:41:12 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA00667; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:51:30 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199512300751.IAA00667@mordillo> Subject: Re: system monitoring tools for X To: taob@io.org (Brian Tao) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:51:30 +0100 (MET) Cc: jmb@freebsd.org, scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Tao" at Dec 29, 95 11:40:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hasn't Brian Tao said ? ... > > On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > > try xperfmon++ its a port and a package. shows user,sys,idle cpu > > free memory, disk transfers, interrupts, packets in, packets out, > > collisions, and nfs client,server calls. > > xperfmon-1.1.tgz from the packages-2.1 collection gives me a > "xperfmon++: undefined symbols: _total" error when I attempt to run it > on a 2.1.0-RELEASE/XFree86 3.1.2 system. i got this using the 2.0.5 package t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 00:41:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA07277 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07266 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA05317; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:41:18 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA00580; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:44:31 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199512300744.IAA00580@mordillo> Subject: Re: pty limit of 64 To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:44:30 +0100 (MET) Cc: scrappy@hub.org, shovey@buffnet.net, huck@slartibartfast.nosc.mil, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512292317.PAA02889@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Dec 29, 95 03:17:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hasn't David Greenman said ? ... > >> > > Okay, simple question...is there a way of telling xterms to use > >particular ptys, namely those in the ttyP+ range? Freeing up the 128 from > >p-s? > > The problem is that xterm as written does not know about P-S. It only knows > about p-s. There's no way to work around this except by modifying the xterm > source to teach it about P-S. > wouldn'nt it be a good idea to add P-S support to the XFree86 xterm for FreeBSD - so that the xterm coming with XFree86 may also use these pty's - i think this should be a simple #ifdef __FreeBSD__ - or am i wrong ? t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 00:53:33 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA07660 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA07638 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA16944; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:51:52 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA03028; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:51:51 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id JAA24958; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:50:15 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199512300850.JAA24958@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: system monitoring tools for X To: taob@io.org (Brian Tao) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:50:14 +0100 (MET) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.org, scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Brian Tao" at Dec 29, 95 11:40:33 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Brian Tao wrote: > > > try xperfmon++ its a port and a package. shows user,sys,idle cpu > > free memory, disk transfers, interrupts, packets in, packets out, > > collisions, and nfs client,server calls. > > xperfmon-1.1.tgz from the packages-2.1 collection gives me a > "xperfmon++: undefined symbols: _total" error when I attempt to run it > on a 2.1.0-RELEASE/XFree86 3.1.2 system. Huh? This has been fixed long since! Are you sure it's the 2.1R package? (It was known to be broken in 2.05R.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 01:00:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA07953 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 01:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA07930 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 01:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA17024; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:58:57 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA03066; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:58:56 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id JAA25400; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:57:58 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199512300857.JAA25400@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: system monitoring tools for X To: scrappy@ki.net (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:57:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: taob@io.org, jmb@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Marc G. Fournier" at Dec 30, 95 00:14:34 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > I'm running it currently on both 2.1.0R (where it was compiled) > as well as 2.2-CURRENT (compiled under 2.1.0R...which might account for > why nfs-client stats aren't coming up *hrmmm*...have to recompile that > puppy, me thinks) Want to grab a copy of my binary and see if it works > over there? Yup, you have to recompile it on -current. This is due to the NFSv3 code in -current. I've done the best to automate the decision between pre-NFSv3 and NFSv3 system, but you need to recompile. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 03:57:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA14269 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 03:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA14262 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 03:57:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA09973; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:35:13 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512301205.WAA09973@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org To: craigs@venus.os.com (Craig Shrimpton) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:35:13 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, deasey@netpath.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Craig Shrimpton" at Dec 29, 95 09:28:53 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Craig Shrimpton stands accused of saying: > > ELF is not specific to Linux. Never suggested that it was (or even thought it was, for that matter). ELV vs. a.out, on the other hand, is (most recently) a Linux issue. > Craig -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 04:00:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA14382 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA14374 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA09984; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:38:28 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512301208.WAA09984@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org To: dyson@freefall.freebsd.org (John Dyson) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:38:28 +1030 (CST) Cc: craigs@venus.os.com, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, deasey@netpath.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199512291450.GAA22857@freefall.freebsd.org> from "John Dyson" at Dec 29, 95 06:50:28 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Dyson stands accused of saying: > > > > A hint, you're asking the wrong question. Stop thinking Linux and ask > > > what you mean. I said this because I meant it. > (Hope that this clarifies the situation.) Also, I sure wish that we > would learn to be more tolerant of apparently innocent questions being > asked. I was attemting to elucidate the true question, rather than merely supply the answer to the question as asked. Sorry for trying too hard 8) > John Dyson -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 04:11:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA16291 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:11:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA16286 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:11:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA10007; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:50:16 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512301220.WAA10007@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? To: LARRYD@bldg1.croute.com (Larry Dolinar) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:50:15 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Larry Dolinar" at Dec 29, 95 09:14:52 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Larry Dolinar stands accused of saying: > > Michael, Michael, if you're going to quote me please quote the whole > thing. The comments you attribute to me are actually those of > Michel Joly de Lotbiniere; that was the reason for the "begin/end > snip". *gack* Please accept my humble apologies. I was somewhere in the middle of a 600-message backlog, and really wasn't paying enough attention. 8( > I'll admit the cards may not be the most economical Down Under, but > speaking from personal experience, the NCR card cost me $125, the If we are talking US$, a noname NCR-based card should be about $60. > equivalent Adaptec (software/docs/etc) would be closer to $300. > Obviously disparities exist, and Adaptec has an overinflated idea of its > worth in the States. Perhaps the same is true of NCR in Australia. IIRC, we were quoted upwards of AUS$400 for the genuine NCR article, so that would appoear to be the case. In either situation though, if price is an issue (as it always is 8( ), it's worth knowing that the lower-priced card works just as well as the premium article, providing (as you've observed) that it's supported. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 04:48:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA17035 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:48:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hobbit.tubank.msk.su (hobbit.tubank.msk.su [194.58.146.97]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA16972 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by hobbit.tubank.msk.su (IP Labs/BSDI/386 1.0) id PAA07685; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:41:23 +0300 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:41:23 +0300 (GMT+0300) From: Alex Kluev To: Stefan Esser cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 294x problem In-Reply-To: <199512281606.AA02954@Sysiphos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk OK, here comes two verbose boot logs. First one is GENERIC, second one is a fixed kernel. Sorry, the AHA board was taken from me, but I will get it back after the NewYear's celebrations. I hope this will help. [CUT HERE] FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Fri Dec 29 12:37:47 MSK 1995 root@dio.tubank.msk.su:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x494 real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14733312 (14388K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 ed1 not found at 0x300 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 not found at 0x2f8 sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found at 0xffffffff lpt2 not found at 0xffffffff mse0: wrong signature ff mse0 not found at 0x23c fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 609MB (1247904 sectors), 1238 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 not found at 0x170 bt0 not found at 0x330 uha0 not found at 0x330 ahc1 not found ahb0 not found aha0 not found at 0x330 aic0 not found at 0x340 nca0 not found at 0x1f88 nca1 not found at 0x350 sea0 not found wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0: timeout getting status mcd0 not found at 0x300 mcd1: timeout getting status mcd1 not found at 0x340 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ie0 not found at 0x360 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: aui/bnc/utp[*UTP*] address 00:a0:24:28:7d:97 irq 10 ix0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 le0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 lnc1 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 ze0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 zp0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcibus_setup(1): mode1res=0x8000000c (0x80000000), mode2res=0x0c (0x0e) BIOS Geometries: 0:02681f3f 0..616=617 cylinders, 0..31=32 heads, 1..63=63 sectors 0 accounted for wd0s1: type 0x6, start 63, end = 76607, size 76545 : OK wd0s2: type 0xa5, start 76608, end = 689471, size 612864 : OK wd0s3: type 0x5, start 689472, end = 1243871, size 554400 : OK wd0s4: type 0xa, start 1243872, end = 1247903, size 4032 : OK wd0s5: type 0x7, start 689535, end = 1243871, size 554337 : OK [CUT HERE] [CUT HERE] FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Dec 28 13:00:49 MSK 1995 root@dio:/usr/src/sys/compile/ADAPTEC CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x494 real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14733312 (14388K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 ed1 not found at 0x300 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 not found at 0x2f8 sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found at 0xffffffff lpt2 not found at 0xffffffff mse0: wrong signature ff mse0 not found at 0x23c fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 609MB (1247904 sectors), 1238 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 not found at 0x170 bt0 not found at 0x330 uha0 not found at 0x330 ahc1 not found ahb0 not found aha0 not found at 0x330 aic0 not found at 0x340 nca0 not found at 0x1f88 nca1 not found at 0x350 sea0 not found wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0: timeout getting status mcd0 not found at 0x300 mcd1: timeout getting status mcd1 not found at 0x340 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ie0 not found at 0x360 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: aui/bnc/utp[*UTP*] address 00:a0:24:28:7d:97 irq 10 ix0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 le0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 lnc1 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 ze0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 zp0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with ep0 at 0x300 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcibus_setup(1): mode1res=0x8000000c (0x80000000), mode2res=0x0c (0x0c) pcibus_setup(2): mode1res=0x00000000 (0x80000000) pcibus_setup(3): mode1res=0x80000000 (0xff000001) pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=20000e11) Probing for devices on the PCI bus: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. pci0:0: Compaq, device=0x2000, class=old (misc) [no driver assigned] map(10): mem32(170f10) map(14): mem32(30f98) map(18): mem32(30fa8) map(1c): mem32(1f918) map(20): io(20000e10) vga0 rev 252 on pci0:10 mapreg[10] type=0 addr=40000000 size=1000000. pci0:15: Compaq, device=0x0002, class=bridge (isa) [no driver assigned] pci0: uses 16777216 bytes of memory from 40000000 upto 40ffffff. BIOS Geometries: 0:02681f3f 0..616=617 cylinders, 0..31=32 heads, 1..63=63 sectors 0 accounted for wd0s1: type 0x6, start 63, end = 76607, size 76545 : OK wd0s2: type 0xa5, start 76608, end = 689471, size 612864 : OK wd0s3: type 0x5, start 689472, end = 1243871, size 554400 : OK wd0s4: type 0xa, start 1243872, end = 1247903, size 4032 : OK wd0s5: type 0x7, start 689535, end = 1243871, size 554337 : OK [CUT HERE] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- + Alex Kluev ..."The life is a short warm moment, + + Internet: alex@tubank.msk.su And the death is a long cold rest..."+ + Phone: +7 (095) 330-1080 Pink Floyd "Obscured by clouds" + + Fax: +7 (095) 330-6793 + + PGP Key fingerprint = 2E 46 74 FB D1 B4 E4 63 D3 9D A1 16 2B F0 F3 6B + +------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 04:50:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA17104 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA17099 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id FAA29827; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 05:49:06 -0700 From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199512301249.FAA29827@hemi.com> Subject: Re: mailto:questions@FreeBSD.org To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 05:49:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: dyson@freefall.freebsd.org, craigs@venus.os.com, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, deasey@netpath.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199512301208.WAA09984@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Dec 30, 95 10:38:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mike Smith wrote: > > > > A hint, you're asking the wrong question. Stop thinking Linux and ask > > > > what you mean. > ... > > (Hope that this clarifies the situation.) Also, I sure wish that we > > would learn to be more tolerant of apparently innocent questions being > > asked. > > I was attemting to elucidate the true question, ... Well, sometimes an email comes out the wrong way, because lack of context. It's really hard to tell the mood of the writer sometimes via electronic mail. Anyway, a lot of the recent mail from this group (including the one quoted above) sounded very condescending, whether intentional or not. Perhaps all of us could try to write more email- friendly messages, especially to -questions. Regards, -Ade -------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - www: -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 05:14:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA17551 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 05:14:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-08.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA17545 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 05:14:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id FAA18863; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 05:18:18 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 05:18:17 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: Richard Lyon , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: popclient In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Richard Lyon wrote: > > > I remember seeing some mention that popclient was not working correctly. > > What is the current status of the popclient port? Are there any alternatives? > > > > My ISP does not support IMAP so POP is the only way I can go. > > use popclient release 3.0b5. an earlier version 2.12, i think is > badly broken and will throw your mail away....thats what it did to me. ;( A warning about popmail: it does not mask its argv[]... which means that everyone doing a 'w' or 'ps' can see all of the arguments that you've passed to it... INCLUDING '-p blahblah...' to set your LOGIN PASSWORD... so beware! someone should really dig into it and have it munge up its argv so that the w and ps utilities can't view its dirty little secrets. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 05:18:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA17677 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 05:18:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-08.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA17672 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 05:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id FAA18893; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 05:22:29 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 05:22:29 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: David Greenman cc: Eric Blood , questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: NETBSD ccd driver In-Reply-To: <199512292314.PAA02874@corbin.Root.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, David Greenman wrote: > >What is the NetBSD ccd driver? > > It's the "concatenated disk" driver. It give you the ability to combine > multiple physical disks into one logical volume. Allright... lemme get this straight. Let's say I have a bunch of small hard disks lying around... let's say I had four 40 MB'ers, maybe one 100 MB... maybe even an old 250 MB or so... and eight 20 MB disks (hey, I upgraded a lot of machines)... then I can use the ccd driver and slap them all together to make a single (in this example) 670 MB logical "disk"? This would be extremely cool, since I have a similar situation. Is this available under FreeBSD yet? Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 06:11:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA19414 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 06:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from aebeard.technion.ac.il (root@aebeard.technion.ac.il [132.68.146.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA19407 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 06:11:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by aebeard.technion.ac.il (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA26989; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 16:13:06 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.4-alpha [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 16:09:22 +0200 (IST) Reply-To: yuri@aebeard.technion.ac.il From: Yuri Gindin To: Brian Tao Subject: Re: Quotas on v2.1? Cc: Frank Kelly , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, > I've heard rumblings that quotas are only honoured on the root >filesystem, and not on other mounted filesystems. I hope this is >outdated information. :) I need to export seven 4-gig filesystems to This is not true, I have quotas not on the root filesystem, and it works OK, but I heard, that it's impossible to make quotas on root filesystem. >NFS clients, all with quotas enabled for about 10000 users in total. >Any known problems with that (especially concerning the large fs size, >NFS export and number of users)? With this I think everything will be OK :) >-- >Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) >Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc. >"Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" > /-----------------------------------------------------------------\ | \\ Yuri Gindin http://www.xpert.com/~yuri | | \\ // || Home: +972-4-282475 | | \\ // ___ ___ ___||__ Work: +972-4-545259 | | \// / --\ / --\ / --||-- Internet | | //\ || \\// __/ || || S/W Development | | // \\ ||__//\\____ || \\__ Network Integration | | ==//===\\||======================= System Administration | \---------\||-------UNIX Systems LTD------------------------------/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 06:31:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA19867 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 06:31:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA19845 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 06:31:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id PAA22661 ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:31:14 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id PAA17502 ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:31:05 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.3/keltia-uucp-2.7) id KAA15235; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:35:49 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199512300935.KAA15235@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: system monitoring tools for X To: scrappy@ki.net (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:35:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: taob@io.org, jmb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Marc G. Fournier" at Dec 30, 95 00:14:34 am X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1489 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Marc G. Fournier said: > I'm running it currently on both 2.1.0R (where it was compiled) > as well as 2.2-CURRENT (compiled under 2.1.0R...which might account for > why nfs-client stats aren't coming up *hrmmm*...have to recompile that > puppy, me thinks) Want to grab a copy of my binary and see if it works > over there? FYI the -CURRENT port is working without problem here, just recompiled. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #9: Mon Dec 25 22:55:52 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 07:48:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA22603 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 07:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper119243.iafrica.com [196.7.119.243]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA22594 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 07:48:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA00385; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:47:56 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199512301547.RAA00385@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: PPP glitches To: frankd@yoda.fdt.net (Frank Seltzer) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:47:54 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Frank Seltzer" at Dec 29, 95 06:35:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Basically, everything works fine during the first > > dial-in. But reconnecting later sometimes results in > > one of two error messages: > > > > 1) SIOCAIFADDR: File exists > > 2) rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf0509d00) was (0xf0506980) > > When I get this error message (rtinit etc), I type deny pred1 and it goes > away. Don't know why it works, as there is very limited documentation, > but it does. Thanks for the suggestion, which I had the opportunity to try just now. Wish I could say it worked for me, but iij-ppp does seem to be a temperamental beast. Of course, I could also have my setup wrong. The statements disable pred1 deny pred1 are in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf, and I also typed "deny pred1" after the error, but wasn't able to ping anything. Still, I'm now just having to re-dial, instead of rebooting, so things are getting better. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 08:17:52 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA23432 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from flinch.io.org (flinch.io.org [198.133.36.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA23411 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from taob@localhost) by flinch.io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA07105; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:15:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:15:34 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@flinch To: Joerg Wunsch cc: jmb@FreeBSD.org, scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: system monitoring tools for X In-Reply-To: <199512300850.JAA24958@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, J Wunsch wrote: > > Huh? This has been fixed long since! Are you sure it's the 2.1R > package? (It was known to be broken in 2.05R.) Strange... I guess I'll go grab packages-2.1 from wcarchive again to make sure. I pulled the package out of our mirror on ftp.io.org which was just a blind mirror of everything beneath 2.1.0-RELEASE. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 08:37:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA24172 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from flinch.io.org (flinch.io.org [198.133.36.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA24167 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 08:37:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from taob@localhost) by flinch.io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA07338; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:35:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:35:16 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@flinch To: Yuri Gindin cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quotas on v2.1? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Yuri Gindin wrote: > > This is not true, I have quotas not on the root filesystem, and it works > OK, but I heard, that it's impossible to make quotas on root filesystem. Ah, maybe that's what I heard. As long as I can turn on quotas for the sd#s1a slice for all other drives, that should be fine. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 09:04:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA25026 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacchus.eng.umd.edu (bacchus.eng.umd.edu [129.2.94.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA25021 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by bacchus.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id MAA08758 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id MAA01433; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:04:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:04:08 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@espresso.eng.umd.edu To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: XFree86 address Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a mouse problem, and it seems to have nothing to do with FreeBSD. Does anyone have the address of the XFree86 mailing list (assuming I'm right, and they have one). ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 09:06:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA25117 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from flinch.io.org (flinch.io.org [198.133.36.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA25100 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:06:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from taob@localhost) by flinch.io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA07475; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:02:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:02:58 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@flinch To: Thomas Graichen cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quotas on v2.1? In-Reply-To: <199512300749.IAA00642@mordillo> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Thomas Graichen wrote: > > i think quota over nfs is'nt supported in FreeBSD (and in some other > unices too - for instace Digital UNIX) - i'll add the rpc.rquotad from > NetBSD in the next days to -current - but this will currently only be > used for _displaying_ the quota over nfs Displaying quotas on an NFS-mounted filesystem isn't as critical (BSD/OS 2.0 can't do this either), but quotas must still work. That is, I don't want nfsd overriding or ignoring a user's quota on exported filesystems. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 09:26:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA26067 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:26:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26062 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-16.net7f.io.org [204.92.53.16]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA06484; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:25:50 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:25:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199512301725.MAA06484@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Barry Masterson From: Stephen Couchman Subject: Re: ijppp cannot talk to modem (/dev/cuaa1) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Barry, Thanks for the files. These seem to match what I have, but all of the settings (except for device) are elementary if ijppp cannot talk to my modem. It may seem like a 'small' problem, but without communications with the modem, I am going nowhere fast.... :-(( tip and cu have no problems communicating with the modem...:-(( -- Stephen At 10:17 AM 12/30/95 -0500, you wrote: >This may not be of any use, but I'm including it anyway. I just >start ppp as root, 'dial panix', then switch to the vc's for the >other applications; finger, ftp, gopher.... I'm not sure as to why >your ppp program is not talking to your modem. Thats a small mystery. >I'm including portions of my ppp files. Hope it helps. > >Barry Masterson >jbarrm@panix.com > >>--->--->--->--->---> > FreeBSD 2.1.0 ><---<---<---<---<---< > >################################################################# ># ># PPP Sample Configuration File ># ># Written by Toshiharu OHNO ># ># $Id: ppp.conf.sample,v 1.3 1995/04/22 17:14:21 amurai Exp $ ># >################################################################# ># ># Default setup. Executed always when PPP is invoked. ># >default: > set device /dev/cuaa1 > set speed 38400 > set timeout 120 > set debug > disable lqr > deny lqr > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" ># ># >#simplesite: >panix: > set phone 7414455 > set login "TIMEOUT 10 ease?-\\r-ease? ppp ame: jbarrm word: password" > set ifaddr 166.84.200.109 198.7.0.124 > add 0 255.255.255.0 198.7.0.124 > > >######################################################################### ># ># Example of ppp.linkup file >## ># $Id: ppp.linkup.sample,v 1.1.1.1 1995/01/31 06:24:33 amurai Exp $ ># >######################################################################### ># >iij-demand: > delete ALL > add 0 0 HISADDR ># ># Otherwide, simply add peer as default gateway. ># >#MYADDR: >166.84.200.109: > add 0 0 HISADDR > > >################################################## ># Sysname Secret Key Peer's IP address ># ># $Id: ppp.secret.sample,v 1.2 1995/02/26 12:16:37 amurai Exp $ ># >################################################## >#oscar OurSecretKey 192.244.184.34/24 >#BigBird X4dWg9327 192.244.184.33/32 >#tama localPasswdForControl >panix passwd > > > >On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: > >> I am trying to get ijppp (user ppp) to work, but I am running into one >> problem after another. >> >> I have taken the advice given to me lately concerning my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf >> file. This seems to setup my modem, etc. properly since the 'show modem' >> command within ijppp displays the expected results. >> >> The problem, however, is that ijppp cannot seem to talk to my modem. >> >> The modem is connected to /dev/cuaa1. I can use 'tip' to connect to the >> modem, and dial out. >> >> When I try to use the 'term' command from within ijppp, I get no response >> from the modem. The RD/SD lights on my modem do not flash. I get the same >> response if I use the 'dial' command from within ijppp (after starting the >> program with an ISP name found in my ppp.conf file. >> >> BTW, when I use the 'term' or 'dial' command to access the modem using >> /dev/cuaa1, a 'LCK..cuaa1' file is created in '/var/spool/lock'. >> >> Any ideas?? >> >> Thanks -- Stephen >> ______________________________ >> Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org >> > ______________________________ Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 09:39:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA26420 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:39:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from serv05.slac.stanford.edu (SERV05.SLAC.Stanford.EDU [134.79.16.135]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA26414 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:39:11 -0800 (PST) From: tomdean@MAILBOX.SLAC.Stanford.EDU Received: from mailbox.SLAC.Stanford.EDU by SERV05.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #10979) id <01HZEWW436Z8000RVU@SERV05.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for questions@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:42:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hebe.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (HEBE.SLAC.Stanford.EDU [134.79.16.24]) by mailbox.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id JAA22735 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:39:03 -0800 Received: by hebe.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/SLAC 920508) id AA97543; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:39:03 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:39:03 +0000 (GMT) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <9512301739.AA97543@MAILBOX.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> X-Envelope-to: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have two computer systems that I want to use for FreeBSD. One is a TI 4000E notebook. The other is a 486DX2/66. I encountered some problems in installing FreeBSD on both systems. First, the notebook. I have been running FreeBSD for a couple of years on this system. 1.5.1 worked ok. I installed 2.0.5, with some difficulty in accessing the CDROM over the network on a WINNT system (yeeeeeeeetch!). However, after some playing, this worked. When I upgraded to 2.1, there was one small problem. Installing from the Walnut Creek CDROM, over the network, requires both the boot and the root floppies. This is because the path to the dists must be supplied in the URL: ftp:///dists. The kernel is at the root level on the CDROM and the install cannot find it. Creating the root floppy solved the problem. The need to do this was not clear from the documentation. Second, the uuuuuuugly system. The 486DX2 system is several years old and has several needs. It has WINNT 3.51 installed on it. It is necessary to keep this for a year, or so, to support some applications. This system has some nice, but old, hardware, other than the CPU/MB. This system has grown and been upgraded several times. The latest being the mother board after a failure... It was decided for some obscure reason to get an EISA board, possibly with the idea of using EISA peripheral cards in the future. There are several WINNT applications that need to be supported for the next year, or, so. The DOS disk is used as a back-up medium, as 'NT does not support the Irwin drive... However, some time back, FreeBSD was on this machine and it supported the drive. This was before the SCSI interface and the EISA Motherboard. Nice EISA MB 20MB RAM Intel EtherExpress network adapter Adaptec 1542 SCSI adapter Quantum Empire 1080S 0 WINNT Maxtor LXT 340S 340MB disk 1 DOS Toshiba XM-3401TA 2 CDROM Fujitsu M1606S 1GB disk 3 2111/16/63 (new) I intended to install FreeBSD 2.1 on the Fujitsu disk, SCSI ID 3. I have not been successful in getting the drive to boot. In both of the first two attempts, I selected to use all of the disk, made the partition active (with "s"), and used the auto division. I had to enter the geometry as 2111/16/63. For some reason, when I attempted the second installation, the install process thought the disk was 2115/16/63. However, I labeled the disk as (sd2 listed for sd0, the SCSI ID was the only diff): Offset Size End Name PType Desc SubType Flag 0 63 62 - 6 unused 0 63 2131857 2131919 sd2s1 3 freebsd 165 CA 2131920 72 2131991 - 6 unused 0 This resulted in: Part Mount Size NewFS sd2s1a / 32MB UFS Y sd2s1b 51MB Swap sd2s1e /var 30MB UFS Y sd2s1f /usr 927MB UFS U First, I tried the drive at SCSI ID 3. I installed os-bs135 on the Quantum disk, SCSI ID 0. After installing FreeBSD 2.1 on the disk, os-bs could not see it. I could boot from the floppy and at the boot prompt, enter sd(2,a)/kernel and get the system to boot. Then, I tried SCSI ID 0. I removed the Quantum disk. I installed FreeBSD and the boot manager. At the boot manager prompt, I seemed to hang at the F? prompt. The boot manager did see the dos disk, but, it is not bootable. The FAQ and other docs indicate that the F? problem is most likely a disk geometry problem. I checked the geometry with the manufacturer (actually sales - would they lie?) The brochure that came with the disk indicates that the geometry is 2111/16/63. NCA confirmed this. I verified that the AHA 1542 does not have the translation enabled - it does not. I tried again at SCSI ID 0. This time, I created a DOS partition on the disk and used the numbers install provided - 1041/64/32. This differs from the manufacturer's information of 2111/16/63. However, after the install completed, I could boot the drive. However, after booting with the -c switch and disabling unused devices, I still have a failure. After the fail message, the system goes into a look across the boot. The system crashed, then wanted to reboot. Again, I booted with the -c switch and after cleaning the file system, it encountered the same error: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode. fault virtual address: = 0xef0dff80 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf019f216 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 32 (ifconfig) interrupt mask = net tty panic: page fault syncing disks... 7 7 5done Automatic reboot ( Fatal Trap, and loop forever ...) Most times, I see the message: "ixintr without being inited!!" just before the message "changing root device to sd0a" Some of the boot messages go by too fast to read. The Intel Ether Express was set to IRQ 10 0x300 0xd0000 32k. Changing the Ehter Express to IRQ5 eliminated (or hid) the ixintr message, but, then received an aha0 not responding message with the remark "Frozen?" Returned the Intel board to IRQ 10. This works fine with 'NT. I transferred, via ftp, several 100MB between the notebook and 'NT, without error... Still, could the Intel Ether Express be the problem? Checked the aha0 setup. The DMA clock was set to 5.7Mhz. Reset the clock to 5Mhz. Ran Adaptec diags 20 loops - OK. Rebooted. This time, saw the same fatal trap as above, except the fault virtual address was 0xef0dff00. Cycled power on the machine. - same fatal trap! Disabled shadow ROM - reboot - same fatal trap at a similar virtual address. Disabled cache - reboot - same problem. I tried installing a small WINNT partition on the disk. This resulted in a geometry of 132/256/63. I liked this better than the DOS, because of the 63 sectors/track, but, it also failed. I tried the Fujitsu disk at SCSI ID 1, I removed the Maxtor disk - same results. I tried having a small dos partition on the disk at the same time - same problem. I tried having a small 'NT partition on the disk at the same time - same problem. I have used both Winnt 3.51 and DOS on the Fujitsu disk with no problem. I can communicate via the Intel Ether Express to FreeBSD on my notebook, both with ftp and samba. I have ran all the diags I can find - everything seems OK. More on the hardware: Motherboard Nice EISA 1.2 CPU Intel 486DX2-66 RAM 20MB 70ns IDE Controller - used for floppy only and IRWIN 4752 floppy tape controller. Serial/Parallel Diamond Stealth 64 VRAM - I know diamond company has ugly policies, but the board was existing and works if no code is needed. I notice that XFree86 seems to support this board... Adaptec 1542C 0x330 ID Device OS 0 Quantum Empire 1080S 1GB Disk Winnt 3.51 1 Maxtor LXT-340S 340MB Disk Dos support - to be removed later 2 Toshiba XM-3401TA CDROM 3 Fujitsu M1606S-512 1GB Disk FreeBSD 2.1(?) Intel Ether Express IRQ 10 0x300 Late Thin 0xd0000 I would like to convert this machine to FreeBSD. Trashing 'NT is currently out of the question, but, in a year, or so, the machine will be entirely FreeBSD, if the install problems can be worked-out. I think I need this time to convert the applications... The machine is in Fremont and can be moved for observation, if desired. Any Ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 09:46:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA26693 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:46:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.icon-stl.net (server.icon-stl.net [199.217.153.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26688 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 09:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tbrown@localhost) by server.icon-stl.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id LAA21886; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:45:15 -0600 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:45:15 -0600 (CST) From: "Timothy C. Brown" To: Stephen Couchman cc: Barry Masterson , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ijppp cannot talk to modem (/dev/cuaa1) In-Reply-To: <199512301725.MAA06484@io.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk What COM port is your modem on? Does it work alright under DOS or any other operating systems (or do you use any other operating systems?) On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: > Barry, > > Thanks for the files. These seem to match what I have, but all of the > settings (except for device) are elementary if ijppp cannot talk to my > modem. It may seem like a 'small' problem, but without communications with > the modem, I am going nowhere fast.... :-(( > > tip and cu have no problems communicating with the modem...:-(( > > -- Stephen > > At 10:17 AM 12/30/95 -0500, you wrote: > >This may not be of any use, but I'm including it anyway. I just > >start ppp as root, 'dial panix', then switch to the vc's for the > >other applications; finger, ftp, gopher.... I'm not sure as to why > >your ppp program is not talking to your modem. Thats a small mystery. > >I'm including portions of my ppp files. Hope it helps. > > > >Barry Masterson > >jbarrm@panix.com > > > >>--->--->--->--->---> > > FreeBSD 2.1.0 > ><---<---<---<---<---< > > > >################################################################# > ># > ># PPP Sample Configuration File > ># > ># Written by Toshiharu OHNO > ># > ># $Id: ppp.conf.sample,v 1.3 1995/04/22 17:14:21 amurai Exp $ > ># > >################################################################# > ># > ># Default setup. Executed always when PPP is invoked. > ># > >default: > > set device /dev/cuaa1 > > set speed 38400 > > set timeout 120 > > set debug > > disable lqr > > deny lqr > > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK > \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" > ># > ># > >#simplesite: > >panix: > > set phone 7414455 > > set login "TIMEOUT 10 ease?-\\r-ease? ppp ame: jbarrm word: password" > > set ifaddr 166.84.200.109 198.7.0.124 > > add 0 255.255.255.0 198.7.0.124 > > > > > >######################################################################### > ># > ># Example of ppp.linkup file > >## > ># $Id: ppp.linkup.sample,v 1.1.1.1 1995/01/31 06:24:33 amurai Exp $ > ># > >######################################################################### > ># > >iij-demand: > > delete ALL > > add 0 0 HISADDR > ># > ># Otherwide, simply add peer as default gateway. > ># > >#MYADDR: > >166.84.200.109: > > add 0 0 HISADDR > > > > > >################################################## > ># Sysname Secret Key Peer's IP address > ># > ># $Id: ppp.secret.sample,v 1.2 1995/02/26 12:16:37 amurai Exp $ > ># > >################################################## > >#oscar OurSecretKey 192.244.184.34/24 > >#BigBird X4dWg9327 192.244.184.33/32 > >#tama localPasswdForControl > >panix passwd > > > > > > > >On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: > > > >> I am trying to get ijppp (user ppp) to work, but I am running into one > >> problem after another. > >> > >> I have taken the advice given to me lately concerning my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf > >> file. This seems to setup my modem, etc. properly since the 'show modem' > >> command within ijppp displays the expected results. > >> > >> The problem, however, is that ijppp cannot seem to talk to my modem. > >> > >> The modem is connected to /dev/cuaa1. I can use 'tip' to connect to the > >> modem, and dial out. > >> > >> When I try to use the 'term' command from within ijppp, I get no response > >> from the modem. The RD/SD lights on my modem do not flash. I get the same > >> response if I use the 'dial' command from within ijppp (after starting the > >> program with an ISP name found in my ppp.conf file. > >> > >> BTW, when I use the 'term' or 'dial' command to access the modem using > >> /dev/cuaa1, a 'LCK..cuaa1' file is created in '/var/spool/lock'. > >> > >> Any ideas?? > >> > >> Thanks -- Stephen > >> ______________________________ > >> Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org > >> > > > ______________________________ > Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 10:15:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA27760 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27743 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from titania.physik.fu-berlin.de (titania.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.244]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id TAA08515; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:14:48 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by titania.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA06580; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:14:38 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199512301814.TAA06580@titania.physik.fu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: Quotas on v2.1? To: taob@io.org (Brian Tao) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:14:38 +0100 (MET) Cc: graichen@omega.physik.fu-berlin.de, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Tao" at Dec 30, 95 12:02:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hasn't Brian Tao said ? ... > > On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Thomas Graichen wrote: > > > > i think quota over nfs is'nt supported in FreeBSD (and in some other > > unices too - for instace Digital UNIX) - i'll add the rpc.rquotad from > > NetBSD in the next days to -current - but this will currently only be > > used for _displaying_ the quota over nfs > > Displaying quotas on an NFS-mounted filesystem isn't as critical > (BSD/OS 2.0 can't do this either), but quotas must still work. That > is, I don't want nfsd overriding or ignoring a user's quota on > exported filesystems. i agree with you but /sys/nfs/nfs_vfsops.c says (at least for 2.1): /* * Do operations associated with quotas, not supported */ /* ARGSUSED */ int nfs_quotactl(mp, cmd, uid, arg, p) struct mount *mp; int cmd; uid_t uid; caddr_t arg; struct proc *p; { return (EOPNOTSUPP); } t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 10:15:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA27856 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27846 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:15:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from else (root@else.net [204.92.4.245]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA10583 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 13:15:36 -0500 Received: by else (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tW5po-000MF2C; Sat, 30 Dec 95 13:16 EST Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 13:16:44 -0500 (EST) From: James FitzGibbon To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Backup programs? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for suggestions for backup software for use under FreeBSD with a SCSI DAT. The system in questions won't be babysat much, so if anyone knows of programs that handle failures gracefully, it would be appreciated. j. ps. 'tar' doesn't count, for those with a new year's sense of humour... From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 10:27:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA28963 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:27:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from haven.ios.com (root@haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA28957 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:27:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from michles@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA04754; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 13:19:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 13:19:35 -0500 (EST) From: Emil Mikhles To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Memory Problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk For some reason, FreeBSD 2.1, is not detecting the 96 megs of ram, I have. According to top, I only see 64 megs, any ideas? thanx From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 10:38:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA01690 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01674 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:38:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA15836; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:38:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA03332; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:38:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512301838.KAA03332@corbin.Root.COM> To: Emil Mikhles cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory Problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 30 Dec 95 13:19:35 EST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:38:20 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >For some reason, FreeBSD 2.1, is not detecting the 96 megs of ram, I >have. According to top, I only see 64 megs, any ideas? Add: options "MAXMEM=98304" to your kernel config file. FreeBSD can only autodetect the first 64MB of memory. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 10:43:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA02607 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from diable.upc.es (diable.upc.es [147.83.98.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA02602 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 10:43:33 -0800 (PST) From: ei36981505@quartz.upc.es Received: from efib01 (efib01.upc.es) by diable.upc.es (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19143; Sat, 30 Dec 95 19:43:57 +0100 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:43:13 +0100 Message-Id: <95123019431319@quartz.upc.es> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Commenting from file X-Vms-To: SMTP%"questions@FreeBSD.org" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk X-Personal_name: Jaume Baixeries From: ei36981505@est.fib.upc.es Subject: May I boot BSD from a floppy disk? 1 question: may I boot free BSD 2.0.5 from a floppy disk (as it can be done with linux) instead of having to use a boot manager? The problem is that if I install a boot manager I can not boot Windows NT. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 11:12:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA08826 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:12:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-06.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08803 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00958; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:14:58 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:14:57 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: James FitzGibbon cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backup programs? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, James FitzGibbon wrote: > I'm looking for suggestions for backup software for use under FreeBSD > with a SCSI DAT. The system in questions won't be babysat much, so if > anyone knows of programs that handle failures gracefully, it would be > appreciated. Check out Amanda, in the ports collection. It's a pretty sophisticated, very configurable backup system. It's primarily meant to back LARGE numbers of network hosts and network file systems to a single (or multiple) high-capacity tape drive, and as such may be a bit complex for your needs, but it might work. It's worth a look anyway, I suppose. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 11:13:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA08879 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-06.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08872 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:13:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00990; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:16:55 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:16:55 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: Emil Mikhles cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Emil Mikhles wrote: > For some reason, FreeBSD 2.1, is not detecting the 96 megs of ram, I > have. According to top, I only see 64 megs, any ideas? > thanx Because of the weird PC AT BIOS (which FreeBSD uses at the initial boot stage to read in your system's configuration), the BIOS routines only return a maximum of 64 MB of memory -- so if you have more in your system, the BIOS doesn't know about it. This can be worked around by adding this to the your kernel config file: options "MAXMEM=" where represents the amount of memory you have, in Kbytes. So, 96 MB would equal 98304. then recompile your kernel and reboot. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 11:16:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA09026 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09021 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id OAA25967; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:15:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:15:35 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson To: Stephen Couchman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ijppp cannot talk to modem (/dev/cuaa1) In-Reply-To: <199512301725.MAA06484@io.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Stephen, I can now sympathise with your situation. In an attempt to run ppp as a normal user, I've caused ppp to respond to all of my requests of 'dial panix' 'set ?' 'show modem' with a "What?". Briefly, I copyed the ppp file to my home ~/bin directory. I could 'su' & start ppp, but got the "what?" with every request. I also added the /etc/ppp.* files to my home directory: ~/ppp/.ppp.* I've since removed all of those home~/bin & ~/ppp entries, and restored everything back to its original setup. But even now as root, ppp still responds to my requests with "what?". I've even recompiled ppp from the /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp files, but no luck. I should have left it alone. Barry >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0 <---<---<---<---<---< On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: > Barry, > > Thanks for the files. These seem to match what I have, but all of the > settings (except for device) are elementary if ijppp cannot talk to my > modem. It may seem like a 'small' problem, but without communications with > the modem, I am going nowhere fast.... :-(( > > tip and cu have no problems communicating with the modem...:-(( > > -- Stephen > > At 10:17 AM 12/30/95 -0500, you wrote: > >This may not be of any use, but I'm including it anyway. I just > >start ppp as root, 'dial panix', then switch to the vc's for the > >other applications; finger, ftp, gopher.... I'm not sure as to why > >your ppp program is not talking to your modem. Thats a small mystery. > >I'm including portions of my ppp files. Hope it helps. > > > >Barry Masterson > >jbarrm@panix.com > > > >>--->--->--->--->---> > > FreeBSD 2.1.0 > ><---<---<---<---<---< From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 11:19:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA09096 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-06.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09077 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:19:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA01098; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:23:13 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:23:12 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: FreeBSD Questions cc: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Port of Linux (Slackware)-style color-ls? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone ported the Linux-style (Slackware) color ls to FreeBSD? I like it better than the FreeBSD color-ls because it is configurable (using the /etc/DIR_COLORS file or the DIRCOLORS (?) environment variable), and it suppresses the color codes if the output is going to a file or a pipe. BSD color-ls doesn't do this, which is kinda annoying. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 11:32:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA09679 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:32:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from oasis.txdirect.net (oasis.txdirect.net [204.57.120.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09674 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rsnow@localhost) by oasis.txdirect.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA14914; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 13:32:12 -0600 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 13:32:09 -0600 (CST) From: Rob Snow To: Donald Burr cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , Richard Lyon , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: popclient In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Donald Burr wrote: > On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Richard Lyon wrote: > > > > > I remember seeing some mention that popclient was not working correctly. > > > What is the current status of the popclient port? Are there any alternatives? > > > > > > My ISP does not support IMAP so POP is the only way I can go. > > > > use popclient release 3.0b5. an earlier version 2.12, i think is > > badly broken and will throw your mail away....thats what it did to me. ;( > > A warning about popmail: it does not mask its argv[]... which means that > everyone doing a 'w' or 'ps' can see all of the arguments that you've > passed to it... INCLUDING '-p blahblah...' to set your LOGIN PASSWORD... > so beware! Check the new port, It solves this problem and many more. > someone should really dig into it and have it munge up its argv so that > the w and ps utilities can't view its dirty little secrets. See above... > Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 > TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 > PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. > ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** > > > __________________________________________________________________ Rob Snow Powered by FreeBSD rsnow@txdirect.net http://www.freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 11:43:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA10135 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10130 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:43:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id LAA20997 (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:42:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512301942.LAA20997@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:42:21 -0800 To: James FitzGibbon From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Re: How to re-run sysinstall? Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 01:46 PM 95.12.30 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > >> How do I re-run sysinstall? > >Depends on what you want to do. > >Most everything I've ever needed after install (packages, DES Source, >Commerce, Experimental, etc.), i just ran /stand/sysinstall as root. > >Some sections have hard-coded calls to change the focus to ttyv0 for the >input boxes, so it's best to run it from there (and not be doing anyting >on ttyv1 either) Thanks for the reply. When I run /stand/sysinstall as root, on ttyv0, the session starts up on VTY2 (ttyv1, I believe). I switch to VTY2 using alt-f2, and find that the arrow and function keys don't work. I have to switch back to VTY1 using alt-f1, then cntl-C, then back to VTY2 to see a DEBUG message that control is passing back to VTY1, then I go back to VTY1 where a second cntl-C returns me to the # prompt. My TERM is set to cons25, the default. I tried changing this to vt100, same results. Any further suggestions? Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 11:53:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA10435 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10429 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA09127 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:52:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00723 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:35:21 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199512301935.UAA00723@mordillo> Subject: Re: Memory Problems To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:35:21 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hasn't Emil Mikhles said ? ... > > For some reason, FreeBSD 2.1, is not detecting the 96 megs of ram, I > have. According to top, I only see 64 megs, any ideas? > thanx > the bios allows only 64 :-( - but you may hardcode it using options "MAXMEM=98304" # 96*1024 t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 11:57:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA10632 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10627 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:57:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id OAA00495; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:55:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:55:46 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson To: Stephen Couchman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: This just in(Was:ijppp cannot talk) In-Reply-To: <199512301725.MAA06484@io.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Stephen, Just got ppp working again, you might try this: # ppp ppp on moonfoot> pass MyLocalRegularPasswd ppp on moonfoot> dial (yourSimpleSite_entry) I'm not sure just what I did to change the way I normally start ppp, but this new way; entering 'pass __________' , then 'dial host' seems to work. Might be worth a try. moonfoot is the name of my home system, thats the passwd entry I use as listed in ppp.secret for 'pass MyLocalRegularPasswd', then 'dial panix' starts the modem. Let me know if it works Barry -- ################################################## # Sysname Secret Key Peer's IP address # # $Id: ppp.secret.sample,v 1.2 1995/02/26 12:16:37 amurai Exp $ # ################################################## panix passwd moonfoot MyLocalRootPasswd moonfoot MyLocalRegularUserPasswd # from /etc/ppp/ppp.conf #simplesite: panix: set phone 7414455 set login "TIMEOUT 10 ease?-\\r-ease? ppp ame: jbarrm word: password" set ifaddr 166.84.200.109 198.7.0.124 add 0 255.255.255.0 198.7.0.124 >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0 <---<---<---<---<---< From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 12:44:25 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA12863 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:44:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12841 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from else (root@else.net [204.92.4.245]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA06917; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:43:38 -0500 Received: by else (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tW89C-000MF2C; Sat, 30 Dec 95 15:44 EST Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:44:52 -0500 (EST) From: James FitzGibbon To: questions@freebsd.org cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Network Card id code Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've got a system running with FreeBSD that has an unknown PCI ethernet adapter in it. It's not detected by anything in the GENERIC kernel under 2.1R or 2.2-current. The card is pretty generic, supporting BNC and 10BaseT. It has a "Runs with Novell"-type sticker on the main chip. During bootup, it's identified on the PCI bus as : pci0:20: vendor=0x10ec, device=0x8029, class=network (ethernet) [no driver assigned] map(10): io(ff80) Can someone with a generic PCI card do a boot -v and compare what they get to help me out? Thanks. j. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 12:52:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA13744 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [199.166.238.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13739 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA00637; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:52:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:52:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-Sender: scrappy@hub.org To: Thomas Graichen cc: Brian Tao , graichen@omega.physik.fu-berlin.de, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quotas on v2.1? In-Reply-To: <199512301814.TAA06580@titania.physik.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Thomas Graichen wrote: > hasn't Brian Tao said ? ... > > > > On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Thomas Graichen wrote: > > > > > > i think quota over nfs is'nt supported in FreeBSD (and in some other > > > unices too - for instace Digital UNIX) - i'll add the rpc.rquotad from > > > NetBSD in the next days to -current - but this will currently only be > > > used for _displaying_ the quota over nfs > > > > Displaying quotas on an NFS-mounted filesystem isn't as critical > > (BSD/OS 2.0 can't do this either), but quotas must still work. That > > is, I don't want nfsd overriding or ignoring a user's quota on > > exported filesystems. > > i agree with you but /sys/nfs/nfs_vfsops.c says (at least for 2.1): > > /* > * Do operations associated with quotas, not supported > */ > /* ARGSUSED */ > int > nfs_quotactl(mp, cmd, uid, arg, p) > struct mount *mp; > int cmd; > uid_t uid; > caddr_t arg; > struct proc *p; > { > > return (EOPNOTSUPP); > } > 2.2-CURRENT says the same thing still as well... But...I think the question that Brian is asking is will the NFS server allow a quota'd file system to be written to if the quota is exceeded. I believe that if quotas are established for the local file system, it would make sense that if a remote system, via the nfsd daemon, were to try to write to that file system, some sort of error should be returned, even if it were something so stupid as "permission denied"... Guess there is one way to find out...I'll go try it out and report back to the list as soon as I find out either way... Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 12:54:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA13800 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from strech.cyber-naut.com (strech.cyber-naut.com [204.118.47.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13795 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by strech.cyber-naut.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA16626 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 13:54:08 -0700 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 13:54:08 -0700 From: Blair Schmittel Message-Id: <199512302054.NAA16626@strech.cyber-naut.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: netscape XKeysymDB Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I just installed netscape. Everything works great except for the arrow, backspace, and delete keys. I installed XKeysymDB where netscape said (/usr/lib/X11), and it still gives me about 3 pages full of errors before it loads netscape. I've tried just about everything, but I can't get it to work. Any Suggestions? Blair From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 12:55:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA13848 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:55:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from wireless.wdc.net (wireless.wdc.net [204.140.136.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13842 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:55:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from pp145.wdc.net (pp145.wdc.net [198.147.73.145]) by wireless.wdc.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA28941 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:50:24 GMT Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:50:24 GMT Message-Id: <199512301250.MAA28941@wireless.wdc.net> X-Sender: buaas@wireless.wdc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: buaas@wireless.wdc.net (Robert A. Buaas) Subject: TCP connection prob in 2.1.0-REL Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Happy New Year everyone!! I've just upgraded a FreeBSD v1.0 system (wireless.net, 198.253.254.1) to 2.1.0-RELEASE. It's fed over a SLIP link from nosc.mil. Pings/DNS queries work fine from everywhere. Telnets/FTPs/POP3s/etc work fine EXCEPT from wireless.wdc.net (204.140.136.28) and n1.wdc.net (204.140.136.18). For example, and FTP from wdc.net displays the text "connected to wireless.net" and hangs. On wireless.net an ftpd process is created, and it disappears when the hung client ftp is killed off manually. Similiarly, telnet and POPs don't work in about the same way. Receiving mail is less clear: received correctly from nosc.mil, ucsd.edu, but not from aol.com, wdc.net. We thought the problem might be a mis-configuration of the DNS on wireless.net, so we killed named and removed wireless.net from /etc/resolv.conf, using only trout.nosc.mil for DNS service. No difference we could tell. We discovered a duplicate name for 198.253.254.1 in trout: wireless.nosc.mil, and this is being deleted. Running FreeBSD v1.0 continues to work fine. Anyone have any suggestions where to look next? Thanks in advance. We want very badly to stay with this new system, but we're effectively offline until we find this problem. best regards/bob From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 12:57:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA13962 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from flinch.io.org (flinch.io.org [198.133.36.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13956 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from taob@localhost) by flinch.io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00356; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:56:21 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:56:21 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Tao X-Sender: taob@flinch To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: Thomas Graichen , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quotas on v2.1? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > But...I think the question that Brian is asking is will the NFS server > allow a quota'd file system to be written to if the quota is exceeded. That's exactly it. I'm not too concerned right now whether the client system receives an EPERM or EDQUOT, just as long as a user cannot exceed their disk quota writing to an NFS filesystem. > Guess there is one way to find out...I'll go try it out and report > back to the list as soon as I find out either way... I'll be playing around with it later today too... -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org) Systems Administrator, Internex Online Inc. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 12:58:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA14012 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14007 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from titania.physik.fu-berlin.de (titania.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.244]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA09180; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:58:28 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by titania.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA07552; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:58:23 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199512302058.VAA07552@titania.physik.fu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: Quotas on v2.1? To: scrappy@ki.net (Marc G. Fournier) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:58:23 +0100 (MET) Cc: graichen@omega.physik.fu-berlin.de, taob@io.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Marc G. Fournier" at Dec 30, 95 03:52:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hasn't Marc G. Fournier said ? ... > > But...I think the question that Brian is asking is will the NFS > server allow a quota'd file system to be written to if the quota is > exceeded. I believe that if quotas are established for the local file > system, it would make sense that if a remote system, via the nfsd daemon, > were to try to write to that file system, some sort of error should be > returned, even if it were something so stupid as "permission denied"... > ok - now i understand ... > Guess there is one way to find out...I'll go try it out and report > back to the list as soon as I find out either way... > ... the fastest way :-) t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 14:04:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA20850 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate1.internet-eireann.ie (gate1.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA20781 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (networx.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.33.49]) by gate1.internet-eireann.ie (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA05075 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:08:28 GMT Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:01:56 GMT From: Michael Ryan Subject: IP firewall To: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, Where can I get documentation on the IP firewalling facility in FreeBSD 2.0? I've looked at the man pages, the samples in /usr/src/share/misc and the source in /usr/src/sbin/ipfw, but it's not clear to me what features it offers and how to install/configure it for use. Any pointers to more elaborate documentation greatly appreciated. Thanks, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 14:05:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA20922 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate1.internet-eireann.ie (gate1.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA20899 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (networx.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.33.49]) by gate1.internet-eireann.ie (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA05162 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:08:54 GMT Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:46:14 GMT From: Michael Ryan Subject: PS/2 mouse and X Windows To: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Happy New Year. Two questions regarding XFree86. (a) I'm trying to get a Logitech compatible mouse working with XFree86. (It's a Compaq-branded mouse.) I've rebuilt the kernel with the following lines in the config file: options ALLOW_CONFLICT_IOADDR device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 12 vector psmintr The rebuild went fine. The following exists in /dev: crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 21, 1 Dec 30 17:25 /dev/psm0 However, it doesn't work. The output of "dmesg" is as follows: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard psm0 at 0x60-0x63 irq 12 on motherboard I can't read from the device. "cat" gives the following error message: # cat < /dev/psm0 cat: stdin: Resource temporarily unavailable When I run "startx", the following message is among the output generated: Warning: unable to get status of mouse fd (Invalid argument) The mouse works fine under DOS/Windows. Has anybody done this successfully? What am I missing? (b) Is Motif available? Thanks for any help, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 14:11:28 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA21199 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:11:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (wedge.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA21192 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:11:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id JAA26009; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 09:11:12 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 09:11:11 +1100 (EST) From: Carey Nairn To: Barry Masterson cc: Stephen Couchman , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ijppp cannot talk to modem (/dev/cuaa1) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Barry Masterson wrote: > Stephen, > > I can now sympathise with your situation. In an attempt to run ppp > as a normal user, I've caused ppp to respond to all of my requests > of 'dial panix' 'set ?' 'show modem' with a "What?". > > Briefly, I copyed the ppp file to my home ~/bin directory. I could > 'su' & start ppp, but got the "what?" with every request. I also added > the /etc/ppp.* files to my home directory: ~/ppp/.ppp.* > > I've since removed all of those home~/bin & ~/ppp entries, and restored > everything back to its original setup. But even now as root, ppp still > responds to my requests with "what?". I've even recompiled ppp from > the /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp files, but no luck. > > I should have left it alone. > sounds like you have a password set in ppp.secret ... if this is the case you will only have access to the "pass" and "quit" commands, anything else will respond with "what?" until you use the pass command to enter the password... Incidentally the password system is the only part of iijppp I find annoying, since it displays the password in plain text you have to type pass on the command line... anyway, I hope this helps.. cheers, Carey From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 14:17:22 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA21516 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:17:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (wedge.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA21510 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id JAA26014; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 09:17:06 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 09:17:06 +1100 (EST) From: Carey Nairn To: Blair Schmittel cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netscape XKeysymDB In-Reply-To: <199512302054.NAA16626@strech.cyber-naut.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Blair Schmittel wrote: > > I just installed netscape. Everything works great except for the arrow, backspace, and delete keys. I installed XKeysymDB where netscape said (/usr/lib/X11), and it still gives me about 3 pages full of errors before it loads netscape. I've tried just about everything, but I can't get it to work. > > Any Suggestions? > > Blair > you need to set the environment variables: XKEYSYMDB=/usr/X11R6/Blib/X11/XKeysymDB XNLSPATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/nls ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 14:19:51 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA21592 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA21587 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:19:46 -0800 (PST) From: gpalmer@westhill.cdrom.com Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA10697 ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:17:54 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Michael Ryan cc: FreeBSD Support Subject: Re: IP firewall In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:01:56 GMT." Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:17:52 -0800 Message-ID: <10695.820361872@westhill.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Michael Ryan wrote in message ID : > Where can I get documentation on the IP firewalling > facility in FreeBSD 2.0? I didn't think it was in 2.0?!? > Any pointers to more elaborate documentation > greatly appreciated. Try http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/firewall.html (from memory). It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than the manpage. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 14:26:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA21925 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:26:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [199.166.238.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA21907 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 14:26:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA05215; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:00:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:00:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-Sender: scrappy@hub.org To: questions@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Quotas over NFS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi... Okay, trying to come up with a definitive answer here, or some sort of semblance of it...What happens with Quotas over NFS-mounts :) Test NFS server v2.1-STABLE machine Test NFS client v2.2-CURRENT machine With quotas turned on for my personal account, set at a value lower then what I currently have: > cp /etc/ttys . /usr/home: write failed, user disk limit reached cp: ./ttys: Disc quota exceeded The system does as it should, rejects any further writes to the drive. On the client machine: freebsd> cp /etc/ttys . freebsd> ls -l ttys -rw-r--r-- 1 scrappy wheel 0 Dec 30 16:48 ttys It truncates the file, but gives no warnings/error messages at all. This, I think, could be construed as being worse overall then leaving Quotas turned off altogether, since a user would never know his quota is exceeded. So...the answer to the question. Yes, quotas will work if someone tries to exceed their quota from an nfs mount'd drive...but, IMHO, since their are no warnings or reasons giving to the user that would be trying to write that file, at this stage, Quotas over NFS are not usuable. Is anyone working on fixing this? This is *duck* one point in favor of BSDi over FreeBSD right now...BSDi does give an error message if you attempt to exceed your quota from an NFS mounted machine (the error message eludes me at this time). Does anyone know if NetBSD has support for this? Note: I only bring up BSDi because I believe BSDi/FreeBSD and NetBSD tends to be branches from the same try...aren't they? And one of the threads that was brought up a short while ago tended to revolve around what needs to be done to FreeBSD in order to make it more palatable to ISPs...this is a major shortcoming towards that end, I think. Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 15:05:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA23232 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nieuws.IAEhv.nl (nieuws.IAEhv.nl [192.87.208.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23226 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by nieuws.IAEhv.nl (8.6.12/1.63) id AAA04457; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:05:03 +0100 X-Disclaimer: iaehv.nl is a public access UNIX system and cannot be held responsible for the opinions of its individual users. Received: by adv.IAEhv.nl (8.6.11/1.63) id AAA05669; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:01:16 +0100 From: Arjan.deVet@adv.IAEhv.nl (Arjan de Vet) Message-Id: <199512302301.AAA05669@adv.IAEhv.nl> Subject: Upcoming leap second 1996-01-01 To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:01:16 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Last year, on July 1st 1994, some accounting scripts of mine did strange things because of a leap second the previous day which made that day 86401 seconds instead of 86400. I think I was using FreeBSD 1.1 at that time. At January 1st, 1996 there will be another leap second. I started checking some things in order to avoid the same problems this time, using FreeBSD 2.0.5 now. I did some tests and it appears that FreeBSD now uses POSIX' idea of time_t values, i.e., it does not support leap seconds and the internal clock should be adjusted with -1 second on 1996-1-1 00:00:00 UTC. I understand from RFC1305 (NTP) that this will be done automatically because I'm using NTP. Am I correct? Did FreeBSD 1.1 not use the POSIX idea of time_t values, i.e., it was counting the real number of seconds since 1970-1-1 including the leap seconds? That could explain why my scripts failed then because they relied on a day being 86400 seconds and not 86401 seconds. Happy New Year! Arjan -- Arjan de Vet (IAE) Internet Access Eindhoven (IAE) (home) URL: http://www.IAEhv.nl/iae/people/devet/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 15:08:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA23376 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23366 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:08:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512302308.PAA23366@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Quotas over NFS In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:00:52 EST." Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:08:19 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Hi... > > Okay, trying to come up with a definitive answer here, or some sort >of semblance of it...What happens with Quotas over NFS-mounts :) > > Test NFS server v2.1-STABLE machine > Test NFS client v2.2-CURRENT machine > > On the client machine: > > It truncates the file, but gives no warnings/error messages at >all. This, I think, could be construed as being worse overall then leaving >Quotas turned off altogether, since a user would never know his quota is >exceeded. > > Is anyone working on fixing this? This is *duck* one point in favor >of BSDi over FreeBSD right now...BSDi does give an error message if you >attempt to exceed your quota from an NFS mounted machine (the error message >eludes me at this time). Does anyone know if NetBSD has support for this? > Any system that gives "quota exceeded" type error messages on NFS mounted filesytems has an rpc.rquotad implementation. NetBSD has one. We're about to import NetBSD's and it looks like BSDI has one already. I'm not sure about the amount of glue required in the kernel once we have the daemon in the tree, but it is WIP. > >Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 15:40:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA24754 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from theway.com ([206.2.187.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24749 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by theway.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA04471 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:58:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:58:26 -0500 From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <199512302358.SAA04471@theway.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Reboot on install Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have an existing FreeBSD 2.0.5 system and I am trying to upgrade to 2.1 When I boot up with the boot floppy it causes a reboot before I get the installation menu. I tried removing everything from the machine and replacing the video card, but nothing seems to change things. This problem also shows itself on another machine I have. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 15:56:29 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA25205 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25200 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id PAA28429 (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:56:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512302356.PAA28429@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 15:56:18 -0800 To: Jun Gyu-Chang From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Re: [Q] anonymous FTP setup Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 03:22 PM 95.12.30 +0900, you wrote: > > Hi, there.. > > I have encountered some trivial problem during setting up of > > anonymous ftp. > > I think I made all the directories and necessary files properly. > > But, when I connect as anonymous, "ls" does not shows proper > > ownership. (user does not appear but group does..) > > d--x--x--x 2 0 operator 512 Dec 15 07:40 bin > d--x--x--x 2 0 operator 512 Dec 30 03:38 etc > drwxrwxrwx 2 0 operator 512 Dec 28 05:59 incoming > dr-xr-xr-x 3 0 operator 512 Dec 13 12:38 pub > > What shall I do? > > PS. followings are the content of passwd and group file. > > retcam# more passwdo > root:*:0:0::/:/usr/bin/false > bin:*:2:2::/:/usr/bin/false > ftp:*:500:1:Anonymous FTP user:/usr/ftp:/usr/bin/false > > retcam# more group > operator:*:0: > anonymous:*:1: > bin:*:2: > other:*:3: Have you copied /bin/ls to /usr/ftp/bin and done a chmod on it to 111? There's an example of how to properly set up anonymous ftp in the book "TCP/IP Network Administration" from O'Reilly & Assoc. It lists all the steps necessary, and then gives an example. Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 16:04:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA25422 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 16:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from crash.ops.neosoft.com (root@crash.ops.NeoSoft.COM [206.109.4.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA25413 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 16:04:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by crash.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id SAA20144 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:05:06 -0600 From: Daniel Baker Message-Id: <199512310005.SAA20144@crash.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: SB 16 & matcd problems To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:05:06 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm having a problem with my CD-ROM not being probed. I can get it working in DOS, but apparently, it dosen't probe it in my kernel. Here's a snip from dmesg: sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa sb0: sbxvi0 at 0x0 drq 5 on isa sbxvo0: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa matcdc0 not found at 0xffffffff Thanks in advance for any help Daniel Baker -- dbaker@neosoft.com - Daniel Baker - FTP & UseNet Admin - Neosoft, Inc. Any opinions expressed are mine. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 16:06:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA25608 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 16:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA25603 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 16:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id TAA26144; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:06:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:06:36 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson To: Carey Nairn cc: "freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: ijppp cannot talk to modem (/dev/cuaa1) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Carey Nairn wrote: > sounds like you have a password set in ppp.secret ... if this is the > case you will only have access to the "pass" and "quit" commands, > anything else will respond with "what?" until you use the pass command to > enter the password... > > Incidentally the password system is the only part of iijppp I find > annoying, since it displays the password in plain text you have to type > pass on the command line... Concurred, I'm now using what is proberly the proper set up for iijppp. In the recent past, I always got password warnings, but ppp always worked without any of that 'pass' stuff. That new 'what?' response worried me. Atleast it works, but yes, the displayed password is not a good feature. My main problem was that I could only access ppp as root. Only a problem when in X. I've since fixed that by starting X as a normal user, going 'su', cd'ing to /usr/sbin, and running ppp: $ ./ppp This may me a security risk, but atleast I can run X & friends as a regular user. Thanks for writing. Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0 <---<---<---<---<---< > On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Barry Masterson wrote: > > > Stephen, > > > > I can now sympathise with your situation. In an attempt to run ppp > > as a normal user, I've caused ppp to respond to all of my requests > > of 'dial panix' 'set ?' 'show modem' with a "What?". [...] > > > > I should have left it alone. > > [...] > > anyway, I hope this helps.. > > cheers, > Carey > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 16:39:58 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA27230 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 16:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27225 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 16:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA11179; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 11:18:31 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199512310048.LAA11179@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Backup programs? To: james@else.net (James FitzGibbon) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 11:18:30 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "James FitzGibbon" at Dec 30, 95 01:16:44 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James FitzGibbon stands accused of saying: > I'm looking for suggestions for backup software for use under FreeBSD > with a SCSI DAT. The system in questions won't be babysat much, so if > anyone knows of programs that handle failures gracefully, it would be > appreciated. > > ps. 'tar' doesn't count, for those with a new year's sense of humour... I'm curious; why not? If the system is unattended, I'd suggest Amanda (see the ports collection), or an expect script and dump. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 16:45:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA27365 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 16:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (wedge.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27360 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 16:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id LAA26122; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 11:44:48 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 11:44:48 +1100 (EST) From: Carey Nairn To: Barry Masterson cc: "freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: ijppp cannot talk to modem (/dev/cuaa1) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Concurred, I'm now using what is proberly the proper set up for iijppp. > In the recent past, I always got password warnings, but ppp always > worked without any of that 'pass' stuff. That new 'what?' response > worried me. > > Atleast it works, but yes, the displayed password is not a good feature. > > My main problem was that I could only access ppp as root. Only a problem > when in X. I've since fixed that by starting X as a normal user, going > 'su', cd'ing to /usr/sbin, and running ppp: > > $ ./ppp > > This may me a security risk, but atleast I can run X & friends as a > regular user. > I don't see why you have to run ppp as root. I have always run it as a regular user. I have the appropriate config files in my home directory as .ppp.conf and .ppp.secret (which is different to the man page, but it works:-). This seems to work fine for me without having to su first. The permissions on ppp (which I have never changed) are -r-sr-xr-x 1 root bin 86016 Nov 16 09:57 /usr/sbin/ppp cheers, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 17:08:47 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA27964 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:08:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from zNET.com (sd01.znet.com [206.43.105.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27957 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:08:44 -0800 (PST) From: peterg@znet.com Received: from 165.227.40.26 (user26.znet.com [165.227.40.26]) by zNET.com (8.7.3/8.7.3-jjb) with SMTP id RAA12424 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:08:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:08:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512310108.RAA12424@zNET.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Unsubscribe From Mailing Lists To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How do I unsubscribe from freebsd-install? From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 17:26:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA28433 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:26:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA28428 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from else (root@else.net [204.92.4.245]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA16183; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:26:41 -0500 Received: by else (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tWCZA-000MFQC; Sat, 30 Dec 95 20:28 EST Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:28:04 -0500 (EST) From: James FitzGibbon To: Kevin McQuiggin cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to re-run sysinstall? In-Reply-To: <199512301942.LAA20997@ferrari.sfu.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > Thanks for the reply. When I run /stand/sysinstall as root, on ttyv0, the > session starts up on VTY2 (ttyv1, I believe). I switch to VTY2 using alt-f2, > and find that the arrow and function keys don't work. > > I have to switch back to VTY1 using alt-f1, then cntl-C, then back to VTY2 > to see a DEBUG message that control is passing back to VTY1, then I go back > to VTY1 where a second cntl-C returns me to the # prompt. Is this in single-user mode? I've never had any problems running it from any VTY in multi-user, and can't say I've even tried in single-user. j. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 17:42:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA29051 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:42:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA29043 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from else (root@else.net [204.92.4.245]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA17426 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:41:54 -0500 Received: by else (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tWCnu-000MJ9C; Sat, 30 Dec 95 20:43 EST Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:43:18 -0500 (EST) From: James FitzGibbon To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Proxy server? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there a freely available proxy server available for FreeBSD? I've more need for it than something like IPFW, but haven't been able to find anything searching around the net. j. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 17:53:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA29307 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA29302 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:53:09 -0800 (PST) From: gpalmer@westhill.cdrom.com Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA11166 ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:52:53 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: James FitzGibbon cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proxy server? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:43:18 EST." Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 17:52:51 -0800 Message-ID: <11164.820374771@westhill.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk James FitzGibbon wrote in message ID : > > Is there a freely available proxy server available for FreeBSD? I've > more need for it than something like IPFW, but haven't been able to find > anything searching around the net. What service do you want proxied? HTTP? Telnet? fwtk (ftp.tis.com ?) has a variety of proxy servers in it for firewall use. NCSA can run as a proxy http server AFIAR Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 18:01:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29620 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:01:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29615 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:01:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-17.net7c.io.org [204.92.50.17]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA18962; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:01:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:01:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199512310201.VAA18962@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Barry Masterson From: Stephen Couchman Subject: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Barry, I'm pleased to see that you figured your problem out. Unfortunately my problems with iijppp do not seem to be related to the ppp.secret file. (I can use, or not use, a password with the same result). If I try to use iijppp and the 'term' command, iijppp does not communicate with the modem (no lights flash on the modem, and no characters are echoed). Quite often, but not always, the characters that I type after the term command, e.g. 'at', are buffered and are read by the shell once kill the ppp process. If I try to use iijppp and the 'dial myisp' command, iijppp responds with 'dial failed.', presumably because the modem is not responding. Of course, the modem is not responding because it never receives any characters... Any really don't know where to go from here. Does anyone have any ideas? -- Stephen At 02:55 PM 12/30/95 -0500, Barry Masterson wrote: >Stephen, > >Just got ppp working again, you might try this: > > # ppp > > ppp on moonfoot> pass MyLocalRegularPasswd > > ppp on moonfoot> dial (yourSimpleSite_entry) > >I'm not sure just what I did to change the way I normally start ppp, >but this new way; entering 'pass __________' , then 'dial host' seems to >work. Might be worth a try. > >moonfoot is the name of my home system, thats the passwd entry I use >as listed in ppp.secret for 'pass MyLocalRegularPasswd', then 'dial panix' >starts the modem. > >Let me know if it works > >Barry >-- >################################################## ># Sysname Secret Key Peer's IP address ># ># $Id: ppp.secret.sample,v 1.2 1995/02/26 12:16:37 amurai Exp $ ># >################################################## >panix passwd >moonfoot MyLocalRootPasswd >moonfoot MyLocalRegularUserPasswd > > ># from /etc/ppp/ppp.conf >#simplesite: >panix: > set phone 7414455 > set login "TIMEOUT 10 ease?-\\r-ease? ppp ame: jbarrm word: password" > set ifaddr 166.84.200.109 198.7.0.124 > add 0 255.255.255.0 198.7.0.124 > >>--->--->--->--->---> > FreeBSD 2.1.0 ><---<---<---<---<---< > > > ______________________________ Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 18:05:07 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29777 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29772 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id VAA03402; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id VAA06422; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:04:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:04:57 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@latte.eng.umd.edu To: peterg@znet.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unsubscribe From Mailing Lists In-Reply-To: <199512310108.RAA12424@zNET.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995 peterg@znet.com wrote: > How do I unsubscribe from freebsd-install? > You send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org, with the one line message: unsubscribe [list-name] That's how you subscribed, isn't it? ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 18:47:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA01266 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:47:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA01260 Sat, 30 Dec 1995 18:47:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA13020; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:46:49 -0700 From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199512310246.TAA13020@hemi.com> Subject: Answer to /bin/ls and ftp (should be documented) To: hackers@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:46:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Someone just asked why ftp doesn't list proper usernames when an anonymous user issues 'ls'. Unfortunately I deleted the email before deciding to answer question. =) I hope whoever asked it is reading this mail (I think it was posted to -hackers, but maybe it was to -questions, so forgive me for cross posting.) Under 4.4BSD, /bin/ls caches directory entries using the pwcache(3) package, which in turn uses getpwent() and friends to find the entry in the password database. The implication being, /bin/ls never looks in /etc/passwd, so even if you have created a dummy /etc/passwd under ~ftp, `ls' still cannot resolve the user name. The solution would be to make a password database using the pwd_mkdb command. The steps are as follows: 1. Make a dummy master.passwd, either by copying your real /etc/master.passwd to a temporary directory then deleting all but the necessary entries, or by creating it by hand. Remember that the master.passwd format is more complete than the /etc/passwd format. A sample entry is as follows: ftp:*:999:1002::0:0:Ftp Account:/usr20/f/ftp:/usr/local/etc/ftpd 2. Now compile your dummy master.passwd file into the password databases. In a directory other than /etc, use: pwd_mkdb -d . master.passwd This command will make two database files, pwd.db and spwd.db. Erase the spwd.db file, especially if your dummy master.passwd file contained real passwords. 3. Copy the new pwd.db file into ~ftp/etc, and make it only readable to everyone (chmod a=r pwd.db.) You should have two files in ~ftp/etc directory: pwd.db, and group. The passwd file is not necessary. Here's an example of how the ~ftp/etc directory might look: -r--r--r-- 1 root ftp 15 Dec 18 10:38 group -r--r--r-- 1 root ftp 40960 Dec 18 19:14 pwd.db 4. Make sure you copy /bin/ls into ~ftp/bin, and make it only executable by everyone (chmod a=x ls). And you're all set. This information should be documented somewhere, but I haven't seen it anywhere. Perhaps it is in the FAQ now. Regards, -Ade Barkah -------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - www: -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 19:06:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA02084 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (wedge.cc.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02076 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:06:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.cc.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id OAA26252; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 14:05:49 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 14:05:49 +1100 (EST) From: Carey Nairn To: Daniel Baker cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SB 16 & matcd problems In-Reply-To: <199512310005.SAA20144@crash.ops.neosoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Daniel Baker wrote: > I'm having a problem with my CD-ROM not being probed. > > I can get it working in DOS, but apparently, it dosen't > probe it in my kernel. Here's a snip from dmesg: > > sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa > sb0: > sbxvi0 at 0x0 drq 5 on isa > sbxvo0: > sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa > > matcdc0 not found at 0xffffffff > > > Thanks in advance for any help > Daniel Baker > > > -- > dbaker@neosoft.com - Daniel Baker - FTP & UseNet Admin - Neosoft, Inc. > Any opinions expressed are mine. > it might be helpful to get a look at your output from dmesg. Also the messages you get in DOS when the CDROM is detected. Perhaps the CDROM is an IDE one (in which case you need the wcd drivers). I have a SoundBlaster 16 with an IDE CD interface. cheers, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 19:06:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA02127 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:06:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02120 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id TAA03526 (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:06:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512310306.TAA03526@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:06:38 -0800 To: James FitzGibbon From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Re: How to re-run sysinstall? Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 08:28 PM 95.12.30 -0500, you wrote: >On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > >> Thanks for the reply. When I run /stand/sysinstall as root, on ttyv0, the >> session starts up on VTY2 (ttyv1, I believe). I switch to VTY2 using alt-f2, >> and find that the arrow and function keys don't work. >> >> I have to switch back to VTY1 using alt-f1, then cntl-C, then back to VTY2 >> to see a DEBUG message that control is passing back to VTY1, then I go back >> to VTY1 where a second cntl-C returns me to the # prompt. > >Is this in single-user mode? I've never had any problems running it from >any VTY in multi-user, and can't say I've even tried in single-user. Yes it was, I will try it in multi-user. I can see that it may be dangerous to do so in this mode though... Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 20:36:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA06269 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06254 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id UAA18392; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:36:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA03953; Sat, 30 Dec 95 20:35:02 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9512310435.AA03953@tera.com> Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( To: scouch@io.org (Stephen Couchman) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 20:35:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: jbarrm@panix.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512310201.VAA18962@io.org> from "Stephen Couchman" at Dec 30, 95 09:01:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to Stephen Couchman: > > Barry, > > I'm pleased to see that you figured your problem out. Unfortunately my > problems with iijppp do not seem to be related to the ppp.secret file. (I > can use, or not use, a password with the same result). > > If I try to use iijppp and the 'term' command, iijppp does not communicate > with the modem (no lights flash on the modem, and no characters are echoed). > Quite often, but not always, the characters that I type after the term > command, e.g. 'at', are buffered and are read by the shell once kill the ppp > process. > > If I try to use iijppp and the 'dial myisp' command, iijppp responds with > 'dial failed.', presumably because the modem is not responding. Of course, > the modem is not responding because it never receives any characters... > > Any really don't know where to go from here. Does anyone have any ideas? > I've got an idea or two, since I just (finally) restored tip to working order. Plus, have had problems similar to yours with user-ppp. `dial failed.' I can't be sure what the trouble with tip was since I _un_-did 3 or 4 changes. But the troubles with ppp failing may well involve your modem being hosed. One of the first things I got working was cu, in the Taylor suite. If you haven't got things set up in your /etc/uucp directory, see about at least getting cu functioning. ``cu -pport1 dir'' is the syntax that willl talk directly to your modem. Try an ``AT'' and ``ATZ''. If no response, that's a good indication that nothing is talking to (or getting a response from) your modem. Check the dip switches or power-cycle the modem until you can talk to it via cu. For me, whenever ppp fails, the modem is hung. I haven't figured out yet what causes the device to hang, but after I power-cycle it, then retry cu and it works, ppp works. Anybody out there know what causes modems to hang? I'd sure like to know... Let me know if this helps. (I've got days or weeks of setup left, mostly involving news and mail, and it would be nice to have these kinds of problems documented. :-| ) gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 21:10:43 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA07745 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:10:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA07739 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-19.net7b.io.org [204.92.49.19]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA06892; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:10:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 00:10:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199512310510.AAA06892@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) From: Stephen Couchman Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( Cc: jbarrm@panix.com, questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am able to use cu and tip with this device and modem without noticeable problems. Just to be sure, I tried again. I used "cu -p port4" where port4 is setup as a direct connect to the modem. I typed 'AT' and 'ATZ' and got back 'OK' in both cases. I then exitted cu, and confirmed that the lock file had been removed. I then tried 'ppp myisp' and 'show modem' to confirm that everything was setup to talk to the correct device (/dev/cuaa1) and the modem. (BTW, outq showed 0 at this point). I then typed 'term' and typed 'AT' and ATZ' with no response. After typing '~.' to return to the ppp prompt, I typed 'show modem' again. Outq showed '7' now, which implies (to me) that no characters were sent out the device port. It seems that nothing is getting to the modem... -- Stephen At 08:35 PM 12/30/95 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >According to Stephen Couchman: >> >> Barry, >> >> I'm pleased to see that you figured your problem out. Unfortunately my >> problems with iijppp do not seem to be related to the ppp.secret file. (I >> can use, or not use, a password with the same result). >> >> If I try to use iijppp and the 'term' command, iijppp does not communicate >> with the modem (no lights flash on the modem, and no characters are echoed). >> Quite often, but not always, the characters that I type after the term >> command, e.g. 'at', are buffered and are read by the shell once kill the ppp >> process. >> >> If I try to use iijppp and the 'dial myisp' command, iijppp responds with >> 'dial failed.', presumably because the modem is not responding. Of course, >> the modem is not responding because it never receives any characters... >> >> Any really don't know where to go from here. Does anyone have any ideas? >> > > I've got an idea or two, since I just > (finally) restored tip to working order. > Plus, have had problems similar to yours > with user-ppp. `dial failed.' > > I can't be sure what the trouble with tip > was since I _un_-did 3 or 4 changes. But > the troubles with ppp failing may well > involve your modem being hosed. > > One of the first things I got working was > cu, in the Taylor suite. If you haven't > got things set up in your /etc/uucp directory, > see about at least getting cu functioning. > > ``cu -pport1 dir'' is the syntax that willl > talk directly to your modem. Try an ``AT'' > and ``ATZ''. If no response, that's a good > indication that nothing is talking to (or > getting a response from) your modem. Check > the dip switches or power-cycle the modem > until you can talk to it via cu. For me, > whenever ppp fails, the modem is hung. I > haven't figured out yet what causes the device > to hang, but after I power-cycle it, then > retry cu and it works, ppp works. > > Anybody out there know what causes modems to > hang? I'd sure like to know... > > Let me know if this helps. (I've got days or > weeks of setup left, mostly involving news and > mail, and it would be nice to have these kinds > of problems documented. :-| ) > > gary kline > > ______________________________ Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 21:42:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA08817 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ormail.intel.com (root@ormail.intel.com [134.134.192.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA08812 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:42:03 -0800 (PST) From: olsenc@ichips.intel.com Received: from ichips.intel.com (ichips.intel.com [134.134.50.200]) by ormail.intel.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA19779; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:41:50 -0800 Received: from dtt034.intel.com by ichips.intel.com (8.7.1/jeffeV2); Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by dtt034.intel.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/10.0i); Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:41:46 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:41:46 -0800 Message-Id: <9512310541.AA28004@dtt034.intel.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: weird local HD errors Cc: jhewitt@uw-isdl.ee.washington.edu, jhp@cypress.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ok folks, these types of errors caused the eventual demise of our 2.0.5 installation. I attempted a reboot when the machine was acting very strangely, and the partition table ended up getting toasted. Here is a log showing what happened within 24 hours of our 2.1 install: Dec 30 14:50:24 smokey /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 352784 of 352784-352799 (wd0 bn 352784; cn 349 tn 15 sn 47)wd0: status 50 error 0 Dec 30 14:50:28 smokey /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: Dec 30 14:50:28 smokey /kernel: wd0: status 50 error 0 Dec 30 15:02:55 smokey /kernel: stray irq 15 Dec 30 15:02:59 smokey /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: Dec 30 15:02:59 smokey /kernel: wd0: status 7e error 1 Dec 30 15:18:25 smokey /kernel: stray irq 15 Dec 30 15:28:55 smokey /kernel: stray irq 15 Dec 30 15:34:25 smokey /kernel: stray irq 15 Dec 30 16:03:26 smokey /kernel: stray irq 15 Dec 30 16:03:31 smokey /kernel: too many stray irq 15's; not logging any more Dec 30 16:50:01 smokey /kernel: wd0a: soft ecc writing fsbn 715440 of 715440-715451 (wd0 bn 715440; cn 709 tn 12 sn 12)wd0: status 7e error 1 Dec 30 19:20:11 smokey /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 352800 of 352800-352807 (wd0 bn 352800; cn 350 tn 0 sn 0)wd0: status 50 error 1 What the hell is going on? It sounds like a hardware problem, but we NEVER saw any strange behavior when we installed and were busy compiling ports on the system or beating up the network. Thanks, -Clint From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 21:44:27 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA08890 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from monolith.cis.net (monolith.cis.net [199.3.14.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA08882 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 21:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from stealth.bcl.net by monolith.cis.net (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA29412; Sat, 30 Dec 95 23:38:54 -0800 Received: by stealth.bcl.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BAD710.C68A2220@stealth.bcl.net>; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 23:44:35 -0600 Message-Id: <01BAD710.C68A2220@stealth.bcl.net> From: Kyle Neisen To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Question... Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 23:44:26 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk First of all, the system I am using is a Dell Dimension XPS P120c with = 16MB RAM, NEC CD-ROM Drive (Quad-Speed), and a #9FX Motion 771 graphics = card. The question is, will FreeBSD (the latest release) work with this = computer (like the X-Windows and will it support the CD-ROM and graphics = card)? Thanks in advance... Kyle Neisen neisen@bcl.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 22:41:18 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA10679 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts9-line7.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.88]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA10674 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:41:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00222; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:41:29 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:41:29 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Carey Nairn cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: mSQL under 2.1.0-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Carey Nairn wrote: > has anyone compiled msql-1.0.10 under 2.1 yet ? I just tried and got > about halfway through the msql directory when it blew up with the > following messages: There's been an upgrade? I got the 1.0.8 port to compile cleanly. Works great. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 22:45:04 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA10777 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts9-line7.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.88]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA10764 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00232; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:45:11 -0800 Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:45:10 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Jun Gyu-Chang cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Q] anonymous FTP setup In-Reply-To: <199512300622.PAA05463@retcam.snu.ac.kr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Jun Gyu-Chang wrote: > Hi, there.. > I have encountered some trivial problem during setting up of > anonymous ftp. > I think I made all the directories and necessary files properly. > But, when I connect as anonymous, "ls" does not shows proper > ownership. (user does not appear but group does..) Follow the instructions listed for creating an anonymous FTP site given in the ftpd(8) man page. Works great here :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major (ps: you don't have to double space :-) ) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 30 22:55:19 1995 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA10985 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from melbourne.DIALix.oz.au (uucp@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au [192.203.228.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10976 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:55:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by melbourne.DIALix.oz.au (sendmail) with UUCP id RAA08780 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 17:55:09 +1100 (EST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA00569; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 17:19:45 +1100 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 17:19:45 +1100 From: Mark Hannon Message-Id: <199512310619.RAA00569@putte.seeware.DIALix.oz.au> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cmdtool scrolling, owplace(1)... In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In article , you wrote: >Thus spake James Raynard (Wed, 27 Dec 1995): >| > 2. Attempts to save workspace by adding >| > "Save Workspace" SAVE_WORKSPACE >| > >| > to the OpenWindows system menu/submenus results in a popup basically >| > stating that owplace(1) failed to execute. Assuming it's a binary, >| > naturally it's not around. What package/port is it part of? >| > >It was owplaces (I checked last night), and it's very similar to >xlsclients (Sun manpages again), but no nice clean "write the script and >put most of the apps in background mode". I can probably work around it. > I grabbed xtoolplaces and copied some scripts from a linux distribution to get the workspace to save. Unfortunately I don't remember where I picked up the source code. Archie should help. I use the following script to complete the picture: putte:~> cat /usr/X11R6/bin/owplaces #!/bin/sh if [ -e $HOME/.openwin-init ]; then cp $HOME/.openwin-init $HOME/.openwin-init.BAK fi xtoolplaces -m /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xtoolplaces.applications \ -f $HOME/.openwin-init.TMP /mark sed 's/-w/-geom/' $HOME/.openwin-init.TMP > $HOME/.openwin-init rm $HOME/.openwin-init.TMP -- +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Mark Hannon,| FreeBSD - Free Unix for your PC| mark@seeware.DIALix.oz.au| | Melbourne, | PGP key available by fingering | epamha@epa.ericsson.se | | Australia | seeware@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au | | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+