From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 10 17:03:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223631065672 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C818FC34 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n7AH2mEQ066890; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:02:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 599C5BA8A; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:02:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:02:48 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: jalmberg@identry.com Message-ID: <20090810170248.GB49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:03:04 -0000 --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:38:54AM -0400, Identry wrote: > As part of my server recovery operation, I want to split off my mail > server onto it's own server. I've never built a mail server before, so > I'm debating how to go about it. >=20 > The old mail server was built with a toaster, and frankly, I knew how > to use it, but never understood how it worked. I'm in a hurry to get > it up, so I'm tempted to use a toaster again, but I'm worried that > I'll spend a lot of time on it, and it won't work because I don't > understand what it has installed, etc. What exactly do you mean with a toaster? I thought toasters only ran NetBSD= :=20 [http://www.embeddedarm.com/software/arm-netbsd-toaster.php] ;-) Or perhaps you mean Mail::Toaster (which is based on FreeBSD and uses qmail= )? [http://www.tnpi.net/wiki/Mail_Toaster] The people who wrote Mail::Toaster can also provide assistance for a fee: [http://www.tnpi.net/cart/index.php?crn=3D207] > I need to use qmail because that's what was used on the old > mailserver, and all my backups are in Maildir format. I don't have > time to mess around converting all that mail to another format, so > that's my one fixed requirement. A lot of mail servers can handle maildir format. Postfix can use maildir natively. Sendmail+procmail can also handle it. On my own machine I use Postfix (with procmail for mail delivery and bogofilter for spam filtering) because it is so easy to set up. Qmail has a reputation of being quirky. But if you need qmail, it is in ports. Have a look which ports are installed on your current machine. If you install all those ports on the new machine, copy the configuration files and mail data from the old machine and you are ready to go. _Assuming_ that all software on the old machine was installed =66rom ports! > My first goal is to just get mail working, but ultimately, I'll want > spam filtering, a web interface, etc. >=20 > So, my question: should I use a toaster? And if so, which one? Whatever you buy should have enough oomph to handle whatever you want to add to it later. Especially if you want to run a webserver with php for webmai= l. There are several webmail apps available in ports. E.g. mail/squirrelmail, which has a lot of plugins available.=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkqAUrgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyXMpgCfdKuEY7aDMPUbSeqVFgVIhwFt gQ8AnRLao0+/bB9gVQv0xN/zY4G/Jk+Q =fMNO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE--