From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 11 12:12:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D68414F33 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:11:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA07198 for hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:11:49 GMT (envelope-from joe) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:11:49 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Severe problems with softupdates. Message-ID: <19991111201148.A5748@florence.pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, I'm still trying to recover my laptop from a really severe filesystem crash using softupdates. The machine hung due to a problem with power managment so it needed a reboot. Now fsck won't clean up without complaining bitterly about 'softupdate' problems, ultimately coming to a halt with a 'can't find inode XXXX' message. I've confirmed with fsdb that the inode in question does exist, so why is fsck complaining? Clearing the inode in question allows fsck to proceed, and ultimately land on another inode that exists, but it "can't find". I've searched the lists and this message appear to reference the same problem: Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:58:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" To: Mark Powell Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to fix cant load /kernel ???? Also soft updates fs corruption. Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I'm running -current; I don't know what Mark was running. Kirk mentioned that he was confident that softupdates was 'safe', but I've had files (from a previous crash - recovered from) in lost+found that I didn't touch, and no-way should have become disconnected from the file system - they weren't even in buffercache at the time of the crash. I believe that Brian has also had the same problems (at FreeBSDCon). Can people put their hands up if they believe that they've experienced this so that we can determine whether there's a deeper softupdates problem that we're ignoring on faith? Also if anyone knows how to recover from it I'd be very grateful to know. My /usr partition is uncleanable (although I can 'mount -f' it!! nasty!!). Joe. -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message