From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 22:53:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2624E16A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:53:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU [128.205.32.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB85043D39 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:53:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU) Received: from electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8OMrmTH010522; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kensmith@localhost) by electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) id i8OMrm1p010521; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:53:48 -0400 From: Ken Smith To: Garance A Drosihn Message-ID: <20040924225348.GB9423@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <20040924050018.GA13875@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> <20040924055018.GA14539@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: Ken Smith cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg Packages on 5.3-beta5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:53:50 -0000 On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 04:43:34PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > So it might be nicer to have cvsup-without-gui on the CD's, and not > include the package for the full-blown cvsup, just to avoid the > dependency on X. Well, if you make the assumption we'd have this fixed for the release then it's only nicer if nobody actually likes or uses the GUI. I have never felt qualified to judge that, lots of other interesting things wind up having the same dependencies on X (meaning odds are high you'll wind up needing the X stuff anyway), etc. I'm not looking forward to yet another bikeshed about something like this. But... I'm inclined to leave it as-is. On the release it should be fixed and newbie users might find the picture-drawing capabilities fun/cool while more hardcore users know how to deal with getting what they want (and it's been this way for a while so they've had lots of practice). If there are strong opposing views ... -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel |