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Date:      07 Sep 2002 14:16:18 +0100
From:      Jeremy Prior <jez@netcraft.com>
To:        "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>, Linh Pham <lplist@closedsrc.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Webmaster <webmaster@netcraft.com>
Subject:   Re: Netcraft no longer sees FreeBSD ... ?
Message-ID:  <1031404589.22782.38.camel@chagford.netcraft.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020906201048.GB77907@xor.obsecurity.org>
References:  <20020906151222.T72523-100000@earth.hub.org>  <20020906201048.GB77907@xor.obsecurity.org>

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On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 19:21, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> 	From what I've seen in posts by other FreeBSDer's, this seems to
> be a relatively common thing, with someone mentioning it had to do with a
> recent upgrade @ netcraft ...

Nope.  Our interactive OS determination machine is still running
4.3-STABLE, as is the uptime determination machine.

On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 20:03, Linh Pham wrote:
> Do you have TCP_DROP_SYNFIN or RANDOM_IP_ID compiled into your kernel
> or enabled in rc.conf and/or sysctl?
> 
> I compiled my kernel with both and NetCraft stopped recognizing the OS
> as FreeBSD and I haven't had a chance to change it back.

Setting RANDOM_IP_ID would definitely have an effect on OS determination
- a random IP ID is _one_ of the factors used in differentiating between
OpenBSD and the other *BSDs.

We've not looked in detail as to why FreeBSD-4.6+ systems are coming up
as unknown (not all of them are), but as we run FreeBSD here, it's a
fairly safe bet that FreeBSD determination will continue into the
foreseeable future...

(PS, if anyone knows what changes there are in the 4.6+ networking code,
please let us know - it'd definitely speed up getting this fixed...)

jez
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