Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:17:07 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@sigpipe.cz> To: Antonio Carlos Venancio Junior <antonio@php.net>, freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org, Pav Lucistnik <pav@FreeBSD.org>, bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/86098: [PATCH] devel/pear-PEAR/Makefile.common: allow use by foreign packages Message-ID: <20050915211707.GE38644@isis.sigpipe.cz> In-Reply-To: <20050915201533.GG29366@graf.pompo.net> References: <200509141920.j8EJKAos071104@freefall.freebsd.org> <432892A8.20705@php.net> <20050914212901.GI19945@isis.sigpipe.cz> <4328A112.1040007@php.net> <20050914224412.GJ19945@isis.sigpipe.cz> <432964A3.9010207@php.net> <20050915122650.GC38644@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20050915201533.GG29366@graf.pompo.net>
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# thierry@FreeBSD.org / 2005-09-15 22:15:33 +0200:
> Le Jeu 15 sep 05 ? 14:26:50 +0200, Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@sigpipe.cz>
> écrivait :
> > # antonio@php.net / 2005-09-15 09:10:11 -0300:
> > > Roman Neuhauser wrote:
> > > ># antonio@php.net / 2005-09-14 19:15:46 -0300:
> > > >>Roman Neuhauser wrote:
> > > >>># antonio@php.net / 2005-09-14 18:14:16 -0300:
> > > >>>> SimpleTest isn't a PEAR package and I don't think it's a good idea
> > > >>>> have "alien" packages using Makefile.common.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Why?
> > > >>
> > > >> Because it's not part of the PEAR PHP Framework.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a *technical* reason?
> > >
> > > No. It's a semantical reason.
> >
> > Ok, putting Makefile.common aside for a while, what's everybody's
> > position on these two questions (simple yes/no will do):
> >
> > * should pear-compatible packages that don't come from pear.php.net
> > get installed under ${PEARDIR}?
>
> If by "pear-compatible" you mean that it is listed by 'pear list' after
> installation, yes, of course, it should be installed under ${PEARDIR} by
> default.
Hm, you see, I should've probably split that question:
* when a software is available in the form of a pear compatible
(read: installable with pear(1)) package besides a "normal"
tar.gz, which should be preferred, supposing all other things are
equal?
* if the pear compatible packaging is used to port such an "alien"
software, should it end up under ${PEARDIR}, or elsewhere (if so,
where)?
> If pear-compatible, it may have dependencies against "genuine"
> pear packages, and the user won't have to add another path_include.
Well, I guess we could use ${REINPLACE_CMD} to tweak php{,-cli}.ini
in pkg-install and pkg-deinstall, similar to httpd.conf or to the
mechanism used by PHP extensions.
> > * should pear-compatible packages that don't come from pear.php.net
> > get "PKGNAMEPREFIX=pear-"?
>
> IMHO, no. For example, all Horde's pear-compatible packages (i.e. those
> available under <http://cvs.horde.org/framework/>) are already prefixed
> by "Horde_".
But that's not PKGNAMEPREFIX. The Horde_ "prefix" is equivalent to
"Archive_" in Archive_Tar.
> Note: at this time, they are not installed by the FreeBSD ports system,
> but this might change with future versions.
>
> * should pear-compatible packages belong to the pear CATEGORIES?
>
> I personnaly don't care, but if we don't use "pear", a new category
> "php" would be useful.
You would need php4 and php5 IMO, and those two PKGNAMEPREFIXes are
already taken for other purposes.
> > > Keep in mind that you will have to chosse between pear-* ports
> > > structure or the PEAR CLI.
The user should IMO be able to mix pear packages installed from
ports and with pear(1) (I'm not sure I understand what you meant
above).
> > Then I wonder why we bother with installing package.xml files.
>
> I suppose that we could remove it after 'pear install', or even run
> 'pear install' from ${WRKSRC}/package.xml: it's not even used by
> 'pear info'.
Uh, I'm afraid I got a bit confused. I'd have to look to remind
myself of their use (if any).
Thanks for the feedback Thierry.
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