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Date:      Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:59:03 -0500
From:      "Aryeh M. Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
To:        Ade Lovett <ade@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [RFC/P] Port System Re-Engineering
Message-ID:  <475451F7.2030003@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <05565EA0-357D-42AC-BEA1-A9F7A9796B40@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <200712030308.32301.david@vizion2000.net> <3BC04A18-86CD-4A93-831A-691EBD8D4A43@FreeBSD.org> <47543109.3050303@gmail.com> <7957A7E2-3ADA-4BD5-934C-F10A1F08F72F@FreeBSD.org> <47544020.5090605@gmail.com> <ADB6E4A8-DDA2-4C0A-A5E1-EF9A45A53753@FreeBSD.org> <47544727.9030209@gmail.com> <34531C67-A2F9-48DB-8161-34593AC0C481@FreeBSD.org> <475449B9.1010002@gmail.com> <05565EA0-357D-42AC-BEA1-A9F7A9796B40@FreeBSD.org>

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Ade Lovett wrote:
>
> On Dec 03, 2007, at 10:23 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>> Only 2 are self-reported maintainers and at least 5 admit to not
>> being maintainers... I think your main issue is you are 100% in
>> "there is nothing wrong" camp and for what ever reason want to
>> convience everyone else any effort to say/do differently is
>> misguided.
>
> Please cite where I stated that, or post a retraction.
>
> I'll thank you for not putting words into my mouth.

The fact you have not made a single constructive contribution and that
all your replies are negative and doomsday'ish is enough evidence.
>
> You seem unable to grasp even basic statistical fundamentals of
> what a survey entails, and have repeatedly worked on the basis that
>  somehow anyone who even points out the simplest of flaws is part
> of the "them" camp.

Not at all there are plenty of responible replies (both public and
privately) that have helped focus the discussions... yours are
negative just to be negative.
>
> This is not "us vs them".  You've decided to take on, as countless
> others before you have done, an attempt at changing status quo
> without providing even the basics, let alone prototypes, as to how
> it *might* be done.

You just admitted you bias so why are you now attempting say that your
not in the "there is nothing wrong" camp.
>
> Quite frankly, this appears to be nothing more than random
> thoughts, with not even an iota of concrete information to back it
> up.

All intial attempts at gathering data are by definition highly
subjective and by definition somewhat random.... the main goal of the
survey is to assist in making a better set of more focused questions.

>
> Naturally, I can't speak for the FreeBSD community at large, but
> from this keyboards perspective, you're doing nothing other than
> wasting time.
>
> Prove me wrong.  Consider it a challenge.
>

Trivial... Just did in less then 10 lines of text.


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Aryeh M. Friedman
FloSoft Systems
Developer, not business, friendly
http://www.flosoft-systems.com
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