From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 23:07:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85194106566B for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 23:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A588FC0A for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 23:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbrp2 with SMTP id rp2so10622097pbb.13 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:07:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=m07UIjzWRfvOiMBGvXTeCpiOqy/VRhbJHX46QvLLSLk=; b=YuUg+BAFLbni+A4MDBBlrx29dhzja2VPbZ25uyIK04eNDnq1oCQu+jkhJsHUTIYfxx RHKrFoQu004Vf6JKJq1nbJF+FL8N/iH5frGk/Lh/XSJol5nGPL6d2Mwkqa4T8XrBKYYE SwW1tvszG/2tynhImyrcPrjOFk33qWmkOb0mCCVn4rF61ISOBZ5t3nRUBsN3PJSD2ioe FnpQp1m2ROawc0jkmrJEnus0c8cfGnQ5IDfHx+xBX7EZ33BUu3Co2XfS+ZqSAnYdkee6 55LFzCdIsPvMSswJIYi5sHqXMQzUPHIIto2Tzfk7tN40GLg4zXEEvm1xjOjL1EzAivhZ pxSQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.72.197 with SMTP id f5mr22475899pav.20.1347923236169; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.36.106 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:07:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5057906C.9090002@madpilot.net> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:07:16 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c_mYWzOC3PdzGrJa21EIk5VdJ-w Message-ID: From: Adrian Chadd To: Zhihao Yuan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , Guido Falsi Subject: Re: My explanation to "a default DE" (was "Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD") X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 23:07:17 -0000 Again, I think the best thing you can do is find a few people who are aligned with what you're trying to achieve, sketch together something, write up a few applets/applications, and get them into a port. I then think the best thing to do is talk/work with the PCBSD people to get this stuff integrated into what they're doing. I think it's great that you're trying to do this. I think it's better to target something like PCBSD (where the idea of a "desktop environment" default makes sense, as they're already writing GUI toolkits) versus having FreeBSD try to choose an "environment". :) Adrian