From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Mar 15 21:18:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from funkthat.com (mg136-117.ricochet.net [204.179.136.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863BF37B719 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:18:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by funkthat.com (8.11.1/8.8.7) id f2G5GhO43101; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:16:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010315211635.03666@hydrogen.funkthat.com> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:16:35 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Mike Meyer Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2-R installer bombs because I can't turn UDMA off... References: <90398345@toto.iv> <15025.32595.37743.216651@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <15025.32595.37743.216651@guru.mired.org>; from Mike Meyer on Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 08:49:55PM -0600 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer scribbled this message on Mar 15: > [I'm sorry if this has already been covered] > > John-Mark Gurney types: > > and I should have a choice to be able to fall back to PIO mode... hell, > > I'd be happy with 3.3mb/sec PIO mode if it worked relibably... guess > > it was a bad decision to finally declare ata a fit replacement for > > wdc... > > You can. Read the ata man page (on the web site, if you have to): The [...] > If you can get to the point of launching the emergency holographic > shell, you *ought* to be able to turn that on, and continue with the > install. I did read the man page before posting, but it doesn't do me much good if I can't get to a point of running sysctl.. that's a good option if the fixit.flp contained a copy of sysctl, but it doesn't, so it's quite hard when you don't have a copy of sysctl, I guess I *COULD* manually mount the cdrom, and extract out sysctl from the bin dist, but how the hell is Joe Newbie suppose to know how to do all of this?? I've sent Soren email, and he's looking at it... hopefully it'll soon be configurable at loader time... I guess I'll do the upgrade that I'm most familar with.. the manual one... For all future reference, if you have a machine with broken IDE DMA support, you can only do an install/upgrade of 4.0 through 4.2-R (and probably 4.3-R as I believe it's due soon), if you either launch sysinstall from your old install, or find a way to run sysctl before you do any HD activity.. currently this requires the 2nd cdrom, or knowlege on how to extract sysctl from the bin dist.. and if you do launch sysinstall from your old install, make sure you update sysctl to turn OFF dma before you reboot, or reboot in single user mode, otherwise you will toast you're HD so badly you can't even boot from it... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 408 975 9651 Cu Networking "Thank God I'm an atheist, that'd just be confusing." -- cmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message