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Date:      Tue, 14 Jan 2014 05:27:58 -0800
From:      Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-pkg@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Does pkg check signatures?
Message-ID:  <52D53B5E.9020705@rawbw.com>
In-Reply-To: <20140114125830.GB77567@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
References:  <52D5269A.5090803@rawbw.com> <52D52926.5090104@infracaninophile.co.uk> <52D530CE.4090908@rawbw.com> <20140114125830.GB77567@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>

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On 01/14/2014 04:58, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> What is signed is the catalog which contains the hash of all the available
> packages.

How is this fingerprint on the local system updated when the remote 
catalog file changes?

>
> So the signature is only checked during pkg update in case the database is being
> updated not during package installation because it the not needed, the fetched
> packages are tested agains their hash.

I think this process is very weak.
Normal procedure goes like this:
* During system installation, public key of the distributor is installed 
on the local system. One key per repository. Should be verified by admin 
if this is a concern.
* Every downloaded file should be downloaded together with its 
signature. Signature is computed on the server using the private key of 
the distributor.
* Signature of every single downloaded file should be checked. No 
exceptions. NSS https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/NSS has all 
such procedures.

Current procedure is flawed for the following reasons:
1. No clear automated process of fingerprint update is defined. (In 
fact, no secure automated way of its update is possible)
2. Security is opt-in. And it should be opt-out. (There is a big difference)

I don't think this fingerprinting scheme can survive a security review.
pkgng without proper package signing can't be recommended to users 
because it is a clear security threat.

Yuri



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