From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 19 09:51:21 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E7C1F37E4 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 09:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic306-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic306-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.189.82]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 480qnM641Fz44mk for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 09:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: t03_a2YVM1mXlSUE8CGpZOcJPB5ZztEJpdeA2w2hyBcnXIIAl8fi3S7xLYLTSkk TD_vaYTLQkUwdv1FokrHFW4V.jaIo2hDDe48Wy7QJzNjunLLp2wU9p921Cet5hxOsSBMu4DphdAK QVUkARAB.MdVicvFWPIYbaARNymJZtMOFSdWhL.zVSM3OcigrDp3OaaYt2g_9G1xqgQ.KPXd_RtU 10QSIQ9RNld6RVIHKqaSot.5TShXj1euVlmn3pcv8YcPmBw6hlgUq6sQyXPtkA31jCkfp5.WxNSj ebvdvyRLZLjQ63CsUBoeE..E1Xo1wXmnlBr1jd_iQasKhdA8wBkz9kNMOM1s6CyFelWeOZzpx6KA Ugc3lSov6c74KOwxdJmLXdd9YOJlFXguidSnxhh5sNxCpy24KxKoLxlND_TqF0H2pWZkLYTveYgf Fxbbk4z7dl0W0ZUlGUH7rv8hqke7pk6y8GxCkX3O6.ZCwRK7Has1JtGbt7tUaDWfEtj8gX6vU0w4 WOUVS1qjoCUh8_KHvqWBQAgKMbXcpymzBEDHxHkPhx9eSToBKGUAHSlX3wee23e.yyXK1nvDp7EX YIizXslo1VyzpazdHJnm8imy.VzaFMuZeVinMolvyOzdvkh0YbGIgQ.kow7LvAGnh3Bq8kFm6ULp xJQmwHr7TuktLUIiTM8RZbKWiRVQy08FTxxx1NqCix_T7lUpJVlgrbmLMek4gDLkAQVHW69n82qW Z9bcP9gcKLlFbFiBIOR6PkDIoLLKVRGVczqWu2oGDgb12Q9N0Nl1yYfeO9gbkfcFby_50teMkSE_ Se.Zm4Nqiblch65pMXVc20qGnv1fhfG8ZqiB6yvOzztKGdmflz5UvQL17Byiozyvm0D61gv18LQ1 slSPGLTyUp_4gP1s_EhD8GJA6tGK8TkHu_Jh6zXwARVEeUL_JAPO1TTnDtt3feBvSmIIurcPt70E 3NRksOFyMekVuVZ8jaINjdEw9bQm3pnLCRwIbA87H.yfefvSM78ykj7I3iN7bMZxfcsI7_GBtUdX gaQLnBdLEk2i4esAMvX9z_qQmVn0EPQyCOZoJMJLFDyGhce.HalO_h.FM5XzGtbqQObptszhPg9e R3pRG2Hd0Mw8oy3riCUVQPpIXG_E_FOzn5MPsS1PSdSVWlJeWFqUoGu96h3s_PaHuOhCsvKxbpGQ xULQ5dpG9Aw1_skamr9.Jqyj38dW1R1Kg_bLgvaTGLaKt.4T9Raa7kswMkNpUIxED9nFkeDgNtiP _3KAni3U996SB_V2HQiBcOuR6PE_VkQO7tokhpPZHhJ4NiNgf4xWwmcpHjfQ.mxJMl9LuiE5URcu aiwxBEdteT5pYSIM6hrkUBraX2.GWDqiq2zKHrueZd3oaBpj1dPUF6_25g6V2oJffkECwj0w6zOm htH0bw4LXDlL5jV6B4HqsjhKbk0o- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic306.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 09:51:17 +0000 Received: by smtp415.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 3047c3629e7050bb9497737cfbef89af; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 09:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pj1-f46.google.com with SMTP id a6so5303760pjh.2 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 01:51:15 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWSp6ZM6IO36YAHOMczzXTie0MwmGRFoFvXdRH8rIdJ8zlJDWLe hQQ2kDrBRkVXAW4s8heE4PhtHDmmlO61ksQfBNc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxp5yngokdIQIfS3MHtBDnwtqS0DufSgBwdthNZx1ATdb1ZIIqJ5sRHRVGQaXIr7HOFWWSOJwcGPlPrKAo1dDQ= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:8a8f:: with SMTP id x15mr17408414pjn.87.1579427474772; Sun, 19 Jan 2020 01:51:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4538784.31r3eYUQgx@t800> <20200119064151.7f781748.freebsd@edvax.de> <3038969.aeNJFYEL58@t800> In-Reply-To: <3038969.aeNJFYEL58@t800> From: Ottavio Caruso Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 09:50:58 +0000 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: sysctl and /sysfs To: Ihor Antonov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.15077 hermes Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/1.8.0_181) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 480qnM641Fz44mk X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.48 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.08)[-0.084,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ihor@antonovs.family]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.70)[-0.696,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[82.189.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com,pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com,pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.69), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.19), asn: 36646(0.95), country: US(-0.05)]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 09:51:21 -0000 On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 07:49, Ihor Antonov wrote: > And I must say, Benno has a point. FreeBSD definitely lacks something like > systemd (and I want to stress "like", not "exactly" ) As a Linux user, who uses the *BSDs every now and again, I think the rc.d framework is _the_ selling point. I've been looking for a Linux distro with a drop-in replacement of BSD init for ages, but I haven't found it. Arch, Gentoo and Slackware get very close, but not quite enough. http://www.mewburn.net/luke/papers/rc.d.pdf -- Ottavio Caruso