From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 00:32:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B143A16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:32:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from p15140542.pureserver.info (papendorf-se.de [217.160.222.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5436943D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:32:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nagilum.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by p15140542.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD3A2F4118; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from p15140542.pureserver.info ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p15140542 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04073-09; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from cakebox.homeunix.net (unknown [217.188.224.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by p15140542.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7A52F4117; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cakebox.homeunix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E6F3028A5; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from cakebox.homeunix.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cakebox.tis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35732-07; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.1.1.4] (scorpio.tis [10.1.1.4]) by cakebox.homeunix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D423038C0; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:28:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41E98AF3.1060002@nagilum.org> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:28:19 +0100 From: Nagilum User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Macintosh/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsduser@comcast.net References: <010720051740.20483.41DEC977000C17EA0000500322070009539C0201079B010307020E@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <010720051740.20483.41DEC977000C17EA0000500322070009539C0201079B010307020E@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cakebox.homeunix.net X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at papendorf-se.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network monitoring software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:32:01 -0000 Try: systat -if for a start, regards, Alex. freebsduser@comcast.net wrote: >Hiya folks, I'm looking for some network monitoring software. I've tried zabbix and jffnms but neither of them functioned after being configured or installing. > >If anybody has any success stories I would like to hear about any of them so I can look at other packages in ports net and net-mgmt. > >Thanks. > >~Kris >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 01:15:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F19216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:15:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4A543D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:15:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0G1EW7e022183; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:14:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <41E9BE2F.3080707@scii.nl> References: <41E863D6.6040009@mac.com> <41E880A9.7010909@scii.nl> <72218405-66A0-11D9-8A15-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <41E9BE2F.3080707@scii.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-829362600" Message-Id: <0977D2B4-675C-11D9-8352-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:14:57 -0600 To: albi X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: this IMAP stuff is kicking my @$$... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:15:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-829362600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 15, 2005, at 7:06 PM, albi wrote: > Eric F Crist wrote: > > hi, > >>> afair squirrelmail depends on Maildir-format mailboxes >>> >>> if you really want to use the UW-imap (i don't, i'm happily using >>> courier-imap and squirrelmail since years), then try a webmail >>> solution >>> that works with mbox-format, i think neomail and openwebmail are some >>> alternatives >> Actually, I believe squirrelmail just depends on an imap server. > > first i thought you were right, and i though i'm some years behind (i > read that squirrelmail depended on imap some years ago), maybe > squirrelmail has changed, > > i looked up the requirements on the squirrelmail-page and saw that you > were right, uw-imap is in the list of required imap-servers, however, > i just read that uw-imap can do imap, and ... > i know that converting mbox to maildir can be a lot of work, but if i > were you i would test with a mbox-based webmail-solution, or... simply > try the imap directly with a mailclient which supports imap and/or > imap-ssl > >> I don't think it cares what (imap-uw is supported). My issue resides >> with the plain-text password issue. As per instructions, I've >> recompiled imap-uw to allow plain-text, or so I thought, and I still >> get the errors. I followed these instructions: >> http://www.squirrelmail.org/wiki/en_US/UWLoginDisabled and I'm >> concerned with these messages in /var/log/auth.log: >> Jan 14 20:15:20 grog imapd[19134]: Login disabled user=user auth=user >> host=localhost [127.0.0.1] > > i have no idea, but i know one thing for sure, the error-message is > -not - always showing the exact error > > error-messages are limited to what the programmer(s) made it to act > like > > for example, i'm setting up a ftp-server, and in a bootup-script i had > chmod 700 /home/ and i set /home/ftp to be the ftp-server base-dir > from the log-files i could not find out that the permissions where > wrong, it simply showed login-errors, and gave time-outs > > do you get my point ? i'm trying to say that perhaps squirrelmail > still demands a maildir-based imap-server (i don't know whether that's > true, google could not give me an answer to that within a reasonable > time) > > anyway, i hope you get it working soonish! > > good luck! > > ciao, > albi Actually, I know the error is correct. Actually, I know what I need to do to fix this problem, it's just not working for me... I've posted a couple links that direct me in various ways regarding this error, but my server won't accept plain-text logins. Can't figure out how to get it to do so. thanks for your help _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-1-829362600 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHpwBEACgkQRAAY9knOW+ozGwCfTVfDIhjS0L9tDFQ2IJxnny7g /UYAoIytKPr5Vb092m5GdbG88u4FDB/m =xtAf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1-829362600-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 01:31:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA5F16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB19443D49 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0G1USeS022543; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:30:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <41E98AF3.1060002@nagilum.org> References: <010720051740.20483.41DEC977000C17EA0000500322070009539C0201079B010307020E@comcast.net> <41E98AF3.1060002@nagilum.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-3-830319351" Message-Id: <43BC6BF3-675E-11D9-8352-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:30:54 -0600 To: Nagilum X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Network monitoring software X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:31:06 -0000 --Apple-Mail-3-830319351 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 15, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Nagilum wrote: > Try: > systat -if > for a start, regards, > Alex. > > freebsduser@comcast.net wrote: > >> Hiya folks, I'm looking for some network monitoring software. I've >> tried zabbix and jffnms but neither of them functioned after being >> configured or installing. >> >> If anybody has any success stories I would like to hear about any of >> them so I can look at other packages in ports net and net-mgmt. >> >> Thanks. >> >> ~Kris Kris, You aren't being very specific as to what type of monitoring you want to do. There are utilities out there such as portsentry which monitor for specific types of activity, and utilities like ethereal that sniff network packets. Perhaps more information from you would be beneficial. _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-3-830319351 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHpw84ACgkQRAAY9knOW+ppJgCggefVnIdE2i0cHgAxGCZsMU7v Wo4An2WHzUh8j4OJory48sC5aOambDyK =LOJ/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-3-830319351-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:06:19 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D522316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:06:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D2C43D3F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:06:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0G36Hs20168 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:06:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:06:17 -0600 From: John To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Subject: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:06:20 -0000 OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ, and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get how to get Java support for FreeBSD. I don't need the JDK, unless that's the only way to get a viable JRE. Can someone point me in the right direction??? -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:13:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C45316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:13:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADFD43D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:13:42 +0000 (GMT) SRS0=mh065Mvm=P7=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from anonymizer.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j0G3DfG1043362 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:13:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: domain of admin@asarian-host.net designates sender IP as SASL permitted sender) Message-Id: <200501160313.j0G3Df1s043334@asarian-host.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:13:41 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: rgfW7Zo23ANWRbZn7aEADcpqTdzvINBd6eSHupAUqnUXlLLzu4QsPSuwz8ulgJaY7/wE7jXRoe/bg3VGtlWIzw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint Organization: Asarian-host To: "'Daniel S. Haischt'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <41E9A2CE.2080006@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Auth: Asarian-host PGP signature iQEVAwUAQenb5TFqW1BleBN9AQEmJggAiPhor+6vto1taefkC3zdduqUkx4AbDCd qph6jbpm6dyMZVk9ayToOz+gkxA6MDlbySjuasgIqCmtZ4B4uf2QL8V6jviMcv63 8rvuxBF/ZFgkxD6g102uayPxczHdaVAp84I4RrCzySykUVOqAR6PTw9Hbt7pI4TW zT2YJwWaCG/DUErVenovM2DrfqmrFzugKuYqKgcvBClJWsGwHKOLbxvK1ii1AF7d ns2+1Vw65YYU4v8KF9HwlxQ+2iljUJm5UFGGN6WYAK65OdHJYxlasj0EPfYmuL2c SuwCIiF8Urv50QALoc8xpOTB5Bhpgc/0XjqoFa/eUhpvFQMwNBBATA== =v9mL cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: SOLVED (was RE: mod_ph4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:13:43 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel S. Haischt [mailto:me@stefan.haischt.name] > Sent: zondag 16 januari 2005 0:10 > To: Mark > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: mod_ph4 > > btw, try to install the autoconf/automake > ports first before php4. All is well again. :) For some bizarre reason my bsd.port.mk had become corrupted. No wonder nothing worked. Now everything compiled smoothly again. :) Thanks for the help, - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:23:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA4216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:23:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C56943D49 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:23:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0G3Nre20232; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:23:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:23:53 -0600 From: John To: "Andrew L. Gould" Message-ID: <20050115212353.A20171@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501141332.03416.algould@datawok.com> <20050114141204.A10926@starfire.mn.org> <200501141534.26119.algould@datawok.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200501141534.26119.algould@datawok.com>; from algould@datawok.com on Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 03:34:26PM -0600 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:23:57 -0000 On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 03:34:26PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > On Friday 14 January 2005 02:12 pm, John wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 01:32:03PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > > On Friday 14 January 2005 12:23 pm, John wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 06:19:20PM +0100, Benjamin Walkenhorst > wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > Andrew L. Gould wrote: > > > > > >3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 > > > > > > rather than 5.2.1. > > > > > > > > > > Just a sidenote, I did a source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3, > > > > > which basically worked okay. > > > > > Switching from XFree to X.org was really troublesome, on the > > > > > other hand... > > > > > > > > Yes, I would say that the source upgrade from 5.2.1 to 5.3-STABLE > > > > was fine, it was the xorg/XFree86 and kde issues that made me > > > > insane. It's possible that I should have just done a pkg_delete > > > > -a and started over with the packages from that point, but I also > > > > need to learn to use pkg_upgrade. I would not hesitate to do the > > > > source upgrade again for a system which is NOT running X. > > > > > > > > I have now reinstalled 5.3, just to get around the Xorg->XFree86 > > > > issue, and I have kde installed, and I have room to spare. So, > > > > I'm much farther than I was when I ran out of room, and I still > > > > have room. This is a good thing! > > > > > > Yes it is! (...and speaking as someone who is typing with 2 > > > fractured wrists, all good news is welcome!) > > > > Oh, no! I'd ask what happened, but I'll wait until you're healed > > up... > > Indoor soccer injury -- the floor is concrete. > > > > > > I hope you have lots of fun and joy with your system before the > > > next challenge (which we will gladly participate in) ! > > > > OK, well, it seems I spoke just a little bit too soon. Or, maybe I'm > > OK, but just worried. > > > > I downloaded and burned an ISO 5.3 CD. I did a minimal install, > > NFS mounted all the 5-stable packages I kept from the last time > > around (I'm not a COMPLETE idiot!) and simply did a "pkg_add > > kde-lite*". That got me a long, long ways. I also needed to do > > a "pkg_add xorg-server*" but I think nearly everything else got > > loaded up. I was in great shape in terms of disk footprint and > > everything else I can tell from here. > > > > Now, at this point, I'm running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE, but I've > > installed packages from FreeBSD 5-STABLE, but if my understanding > > is correct, that should be OK. > > > > This is the point at which things got interesting. I did the > > pkg_add for OOo - and found that I was missing four dependent > > packages. As luck would have it, all four of them have been > > updated since I started this process, so I downloaded and installed > > the newer revv'ed ones, but I got an error message that > > something (I wished I'd trapped the output) wanted libm.so.2. > > When I look around, I find that I have libm.so.3. The four > > packages were atk, pango, shared-mime-info, and gtk-2. I > > think one of the post-install scripts complained that it couldn't > > run something, > > > > Am I preparing trouble, or am I OK? Despite the warning, everything > > seems to be installing. Obviously, I wasn't able to install the > > newer packages as dependencies, but after installing them by hand, > > the things on which they depended seem to be installing OK, though > > with warnings. > > > > Anyway, I have everything installed, (except maybe a JDK - any > > suggestions?) and I'm at 80% in my combined root /usr partition, > > which feels a little tighter than I would like, but I do still have > > 270Mb free, so that's not too bad - that's larger than my first > > FreeBSD hard drive! :) > > > > OO just finished. Other than 16 packages that are newer than > > expected, it seems to have installed. I'm not actually with the > > machine, so I can't start X and kde and try it. > > > > Am I OK, or should I start over and redo something? > > If the package finished installing, everything may be okay (no > guarantees). Create a list of frequent tasks in OpenOffice; and run > OpenOffice through its paces. YIPPEE!!! Two more hurdles cleared, and I'm up and running! I learned two lessons: 1) Don't depend on dependencies 2) startx is still your friend With the first one, I was having X mess up my screen completely, and not having it be restored when I tried to return to my virtual terminal on doing an "X -configure xorg.config.new". Checking the log files revealed that the there mkfontdir wasn't loaded. I had done a "pkg_add kde-lite*" and expected it to take care of all the dependencies. That was not the case. Parts of x.org were loaded, but not all of it. That was quickly corrected by doing a "pkg_add xord-6.8*" of the meta package to get the rest of the pieces. The next one was really strange. kde would start, but in the middle of initializing, it would simply go away. Using startx to get things rolling, I captured the error message. Somehow, /tmp/.ICE was owned by my personal uid rather than root, which kde found unacceptable. Not sure how that happened. I certainly didn't create it by hand. I may have installed the package which created it when "su'ed" from my regular uid - I can't say for sure. Odd that it would have come into being that way. Or maybe when I first ran "startx" as myself. Dunno. Changed the ownership, and off it went. Now, I just have to figure out this DST thing so I can turn my power control stuff back on. Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror. On some web sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just is GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page. The CPU isn't busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is waiting for. It's so bad, it stretches credibility. Then, as I said, on other web sites, it's just fine. Sometimes is stops with 94% loaded and just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it pauses with like "12 out of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it pauses just as soon as it resolves the new URL and connects to the server. VERY odd. So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win 98. 1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD 2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD 3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working 4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY) a CD in my laptop multi-bay Those were all issues before my switch to 5.3. I have a functional laptop again! YAY! Thanks to all, especially you, Andrew, typing with your poor wrists! -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:29:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106B316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:29:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-f27.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.185.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA95943D3F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:29:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from street_chaman@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:29:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 82.252.44.138 by by15fd.bay15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:28:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [82.252.44.138] X-Originating-Email: [street_chaman@hotmail.com] X-Sender: street_chaman@hotmail.com From: "Street Chaman" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:28:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2005 03:29:00.0529 (UTC) FILETIME=[85119E10:01C4FB7B] Subject: Hardware assembly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:29:01 -0000 hi everyone, i need low level hardware control over some devices (kbd, sound, display) in an assembly soft, and 'd like to know where i can find a list of ioctl_syscall supported parameters for each device. Furthermore, if someone knows some good (more complete than developpers-handbook) gas doc/sources, it would be a great help for me. Thanks a lot. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://www.msn.fr/msger/default.asp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:38:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E7D16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:38:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEA043D4C for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:38:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0G3arO20287; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:36:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:36:53 -0600 From: John To: Street Chaman Message-ID: <20050115213653.B20171@starfire.mn.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from street_chaman@hotmail.com on Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 03:28:18AM +0000 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware assembly X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:38:11 -0000 On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 03:28:18AM +0000, Street Chaman wrote: > hi everyone, > > i need low level hardware control over some devices (kbd, sound, display) in > an assembly soft, and 'd like to know where i can find a list of > ioctl_syscall supported parameters for each device. > Furthermore, if someone knows some good (more complete than > developpers-handbook) gas doc/sources, it would be a great help for me. Well, Street, some may call this cheating, but it is probably worth your while to try it this way. Create empty routines in C to get your calling sequences down, then use the compiler to create the linkages for you (see the -S option). Then you can concentrate on your functionality, rather than trying to do the stack work that you need. If you are actually making ioctl or syscalls, then write the C for the ioctl into your framework and, again, let the compiler generate the linkages. If you actually want to make the syscalls directly, you should dig out the assembler source from the system sources of the libraries and use them as a template - just beware, the syscalls can CHANGE, which is one reason we always rebuild the "world" with the kernel. Part of the reason for using the standard libraries is to put a layer of abstraction between you and the basic OS calling sequence. Just my $0.02. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:40:41 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFDD16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:40:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA1A43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:40:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05404374pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.144.252]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20050116034040014000tsdne>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:40:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 71834 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 03:40:39 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 03:40:39 -0000 Message-ID: <41E9E374.1010004@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:45:56 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.04432a48@mail.ulster.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050115142405.04432a48@mail.ulster.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFB7BB490616033039E659166" Subject: Re: how to install samba with outdated port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:40:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFB7BB490616033039E659166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marty Landman wrote: > I gather that my samba port is too old. How can I do the make build && > make install using the latest version. You have three decent options: 1: CVSup your entire ports tree 2: CVS checkout just that port 3: Download that port as a tarball For three, you can find if at http://www.freebsd.org/ports Search for Samba and click the "download" link. Then, unzip in place of the previous samba directory. You can also try to cheat by editing the distinfo file and renaming the file to the version that you have, and editing the Makefile to that version too, but that's a bad idea, since any patches to the port are for the previous version. Sometimes, though, things like this are necessary for certain abandoned ports. --------------enigFB7BB490616033039E659166 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB6eN6mcXjc1XBrAQRAmA6AJwPhOFc3lTvRlE5o9gZMmFLo/N/6QCeMNf5 kz05ulQBhk9P1bZQbBprnP8= =pOJi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFB7BB490616033039E659166-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:43:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7213C16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:43:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531CF43D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:43:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05404374pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.144.252]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <200501160343440140013ap4e>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:43:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 72207 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 03:43:44 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 03:43:44 -0000 Message-ID: <41E9E433.4000009@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:49:07 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20050115210200.GA15535@nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20050115210200.GA15535@nagual.st> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5672B173FD9E2ED56B96A587" Subject: Re: makefile args overrule X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:43:45 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5672B173FD9E2ED56B96A587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dick hoogendijk wrote: >Is it possible to *overrule* the arguments from a Makefile in the ports? >I know you can add some options in the pkgtools.conf (portupgrade), but >I want to disable a lot of options in the Makefile of apache13 because I >want to disable a lot of modules. Can I add the options I want to the >pkgtools.conf to *overrule* the Makefile? > > When you get a menu prompt to select options, all that it does is set make variables. You can see them in the /var/db//options file, or you can see what they are in the Makefile. Either way, you can specify them on the command line as = or in pkgtools.conf the same way. You're probably better off editing the options file or removing it and running "make config" on the port. --------------enig5672B173FD9E2ED56B96A587 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB6eQzmcXjc1XBrAQRAs2jAJ9kRoYbMW84G4DWk1OHjicG8gu5xwCeN8Y0 LcuWFMjkXdct9Ok4QGHhJVo= =b2bV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5672B173FD9E2ED56B96A587-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 03:57:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D6D16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:57:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao02.cox.net (lakermmtao02.cox.net [68.230.240.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68B343D49 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:56:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nharrison@cox.net) Received: from ip68-13-42-191.om.om.cox.net ([68.13.42.191]) by lakermmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-117-20041022) with ESMTP <20050116035657.UAAS2202.lakermmtao02.cox.net@ip68-13-42-191.om.om.cox.net> for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:56:57 -0500 From: Ned Harrison To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:57:36 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501152157.36699.nharrison@cox.net> Subject: Printer fails to work after upgrade to 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:57:00 -0000 I have a Cannon S520 printer that I had working under 5.2.1 using cups with KDE as a graphical interface. After upgrading I have not been able to get it to print. I get no error messages when I send a document to print. Even test prints bring back a message stating the test print was successfull, however the printer does not respond. I double checked my packages in case I deleted any. Ghostscrip-gnu-nox11 is still installed as well as cups. I still have a symbolic link from cups.sh.sample to cups.sh in the ~/etc/rc.d directory. The /etc/make.conf file still has CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=yes and NO_LPR=yes in it. The corresponding lp commands in /usr/bin are symbolicly linked to their counterparts in /usr/local/bin/lp. Is there something basic that I have missed or a change which needs to be added? I have created the libmap.conf file to adjust the different threading libraries. What would I need to do to try to get an error message via the command line? I'm a newbie, when I first set up the printer under 5.2.1, I followed some basic set up instructions and the KDE graphical interface took right off without problems. So I never really learned anything. :-) Any assistance will be appreciated! Ned From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 04:12:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DFF16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:12:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AB943D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:12:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05404374pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.144.252]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20050116041215011000bniee>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:12:15 +0000 Received: (qmail 75626 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 04:12:16 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 04:12:16 -0000 Message-ID: <41E9EADE.6000304@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:17:34 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200501152157.36699.nharrison@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <200501152157.36699.nharrison@cox.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigBEFA0B4A28C26E26FDDE5562" Subject: Re: Printer fails to work after upgrade to 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:12:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigBEFA0B4A28C26E26FDDE5562 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fo you have cups-pstoraster? Also, have you tried gimp-print? The drivers are excellent and work extremely well with cups, especially when you use something like kprinter --stdin instead of lpr. That way, you have a ton of configuration options that you can easily change for each file that you print. --------------enigBEFA0B4A28C26E26FDDE5562 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB6erimcXjc1XBrAQRAjoKAKCbwADdkY2FluxMyCT4JCp4B/Bo1QCeP/rF MdeW1qORyLOVGQ3ieA1325M= =kZG+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigBEFA0B4A28C26E26FDDE5562-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 04:16:28 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278BC16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:16:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C8043D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:16:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C46456470; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:16:26 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:16:26 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: John Message-ID: <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:16:28 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote: > OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed > and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ, > and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the > latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get > how to get Java support for FreeBSD. I don't need the JDK, unless > that's the only way to get a viable JRE. You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14. Cheers. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "If you wish your merit to be known, acknowledge that of other people" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 05:05:27 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD48516A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:05:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC0443D2F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:05:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 62512 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 21:05:23 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 21:05:23 -0800 Message-ID: <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:05:22 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Chen References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: John cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:05:27 -0000 Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote: > >>OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed >>and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ, >>and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the >>latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get >>how to get Java support for FreeBSD. I don't need the JDK, unless >>that's the only way to get a viable JRE. > > > You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the > JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14. > > Cheers. But make sure you have linprocfs mounted before you try to build it (and obviously linux emulation). PS- Linux emulation is for bootstrapping purposes. java/jdk14 requires java/linux-sun-jdk14 to compile, afterwards java/linux-sun-jdk14 can be safely removed. -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 05:34:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB01716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:34:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C48343D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:34:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0G5Y4620688; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:34:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:34:04 -0600 From: John To: Tabor Kelly Message-ID: <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net>; 2005 at 09:05:22PM -0800 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Jonathan Chen Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:34:34 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:05:22PM -0800, Tabor Kelly wrote: > Jonathan Chen wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote: > > > >>OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed > >>and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ, > >>and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the > >>latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get > >>how to get Java support for FreeBSD. I don't need the JDK, unless > >>that's the only way to get a viable JRE. > > > > > > You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the > > JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14. > > > > Cheers. > > But make sure you have linprocfs mounted before you try to build it (and > obviously linux emulation). > > PS- Linux emulation is for bootstrapping purposes. java/jdk14 requires > java/linux-sun-jdk14 to compile, afterwards java/linux-sun-jdk14 can be > safely removed. Oh, my word! They don't make this easy, do they??? -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 05:47:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D460C16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:47:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6132643D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:47:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@67.116.52.197 with login) by smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 05:47:14 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:47:13 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501141534.26119.algould@datawok.com> <20050115212353.A20171@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050115212353.A20171@starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501152147.13994.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: John Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:47:15 -0000 On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John wrote: > Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror. On some web > sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just is > GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page. The CPU isn't > busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is waiting for. > It's so bad, it stretches credibility. Then, as I said, on other > web sites, it's just fine. Sometimes is stops with 94% loaded and > just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it pauses with like "12 out > of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it pauses just as soon as it > resolves the new URL and connects to the server. VERY odd. Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this happens because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm not entirely sure about that, but the upshot is that the browser doesn't know what the whole page will look like until an image downloads, as there are often page elements which depend on the placement of other elements to determine their own placement. However, AFAIK this is also considered a bug, because Konqueror doesn't handle this issue gracefully, so (again AFAIR) this is something that the KDE project is working to correct. I seem to remember something about this waiting until KDE version 4, however. I don't speak for them, so apologies if this isn't entirely correct. > So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win 98. > 1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD > 2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD > 3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working > 4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY) > a CD in my laptop multi-bay Have you tried mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom You've probably been through that, but can't hurt to mention it. BTW, most of this stuff is covered extensively in the handbook, but unfortunately I've never had much luck with ACPI, mostly due to my hardware. > Those were all issues before my switch to 5.3. > > I have a functional laptop again! YAY! > > Thanks to all, especially you, Andrew, typing with your poor > wrists! It sounds like so far so good. I know the feeling. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 05:57:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E0416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:57:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607C843D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:57:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0G5vdO20818; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:57:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:57:39 -0600 From: John To: Joshua Tinnin Message-ID: <20050115235739.A20785@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501141534.26119.algould@datawok.com> <20050115212353.A20171@starfire.mn.org> <200501152147.13994.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200501152147.13994.krinklyfig@spymac.com>; from krinklyfig@spymac.com on Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:57:43 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John wrote: > > Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror. On some web > > sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just is > > GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page. The CPU isn't > > busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is waiting for. > > It's so bad, it stretches credibility. Then, as I said, on other > > web sites, it's just fine. Sometimes is stops with 94% loaded and > > just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it pauses with like "12 out > > of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it pauses just as soon as it > > resolves the new URL and connects to the server. VERY odd. > > Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some > images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this happens > because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm not entirely Thanks for your response, Joshua! Well, your answer is very reasonable given the information I supplied, but it is not what's happening. I can have my Windoze work-owned laptop next to it on the table, and it will load up these pages in a snap. Konqueror isn't getting any data - it sits there with nothing happening - no data coming across the network. > sure about that, but the upshot is that the browser doesn't know what > the whole page will look like until an image downloads, as there are > often page elements which depend on the placement of other elements to > determine their own placement. However, AFAIK this is also considered a > bug, because Konqueror doesn't handle this issue gracefully, so (again > AFAIR) this is something that the KDE project is working to correct. I > seem to remember something about this waiting until KDE version 4, > however. I don't speak for them, so apologies if this isn't entirely > correct. > > > So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win 98. > > 1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD > > 2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD > > 3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working > > 4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY) > > a CD in my laptop multi-bay > > Have you tried mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom Oh, yeah - it's not in dmesgs. 4.x used to at least have an atapi-slave ID timeout, but this doesn't even do that - the kernel just pauses and goes on without any message. It's pretty bizarre - 4.x would boot and actually INSTALL from the CD, but when you booted from the hard drive, I'd get the ID timeout message. 5.x boots from the CD, but then can't even install from it. I boot the CD, then eject it, bring it to another system, and NFS mount it to complete the installation. Kludgy, but it works. OK when I'm at home with the other systems, but not much good when I'm traveling with the laptop... ;) > You've probably been through that, but can't hurt to mention it. I appreciate thoroughness. > BTW, most of this stuff is covered extensively in the handbook, but > unfortunately I've never had much luck with ACPI, mostly due to my > hardware. Yup - I was just making a little "to do" list, in case anyone had any caveats to yell out. I've already heard from the folks on the ACPI list - I have some "to do's" to try. > > Those were all issues before my switch to 5.3. > > > > I have a functional laptop again! YAY! > > > > Thanks to all, especially you, Andrew, typing with your poor > > wrists! > > It sounds like so far so good. I know the feeling. > > - jt -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:01:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22C616A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:01:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cypherpunks.to (pakastelohi.cypherpunks.to [82.94.251.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7361C43D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:01:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shamrock@mail.cypherpunks.to) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:01:12 +0100 From: Lucky Green To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <20050116060112.9D96B114B6@mail.cypherpunks.to> Subject: DEVICE_POLLING vs. SMP kernels X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:01:15 -0000 I am contemplating using the DEVICE_POLLING kernel option with an fxp NIC on FreeBSD 5.3 using an SMP kernel. /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_poll.c clearly states that DEVICE_POLLING is incompatible with SNP kernels: #ifdef SMP #ifndef COMPILING_LINT #error DEVICE_POLLING is not compatible with SMP #endif #endif Yet there are various performance tuning FAQs floating around the Net stating that DEVICE_POLLING will work just fine with SMP kernels and that the user can safely delete the above section from kern_poll.c This may well be the case, but if this is true, why wouldn't that section have been removed from kern_poll.c by now? What are the corner cases, if any, that an admin should be aware of that keep this error message in the code? TIA, -- Lucky Green PGP encrypted email preferred. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:04:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2752116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:04:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FEF43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:04:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D91005643C; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:04:42 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:04:42 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: John Message-ID: <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:04:44 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:34:04PM -0600, John wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:05:22PM -0800, Tabor Kelly wrote: > > Jonathan Chen wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote: > > > > > >>OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed > > >>and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ, > > >>and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the > > >>latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get > > >>how to get Java support for FreeBSD. I don't need the JDK, unless > > >>that's the only way to get a viable JRE. > > > > > > > > > You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the > > > JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14. > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > But make sure you have linprocfs mounted before you try to build it (and > > obviously linux emulation). > > > > PS- Linux emulation is for bootstrapping purposes. java/jdk14 requires > > java/linux-sun-jdk14 to compile, afterwards java/linux-sun-jdk14 can be > > safely removed. > > Oh, my word! They don't make this easy, do they??? Blame Sun; they don't make it easy for organizations like FreeBSD to release a binary version of Java. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "I don't want to achive immortality through my works.. I want to achieve it through not dying" - Woody Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:21:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E53716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:21:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from spatula.dreamhost.com (spatula.dreamhost.com [66.33.205.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491A343D2D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:21:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@tntluoma.com) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (adsl-69-211-82-66.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net [69.211.82.66]) by spatula.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D324B17D014; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:21:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20050113161851.B5621@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com> <20050113161851.B5621@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Timothy Luoma Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:20:58 -0500 To: John X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:21:43 -0000 On Jan 13, 2005, at 5:18 PM, John wrote: > Yeah - thinking about that - but should I really need SEVERAL Gb to > support the environment I want? Maybe... FWIW, the day after Thanksgiving, BestBuy had a 250GB drive for $80 after $100 rebate. Even if you can't find a deal that good, your time is worth money, and if financially possible, even $50 will get you a nice large hard drive these days and you can completely segregate Windows onto another drive if you want. (Then again, I bought the drive basically on principle because it was such a good deal, then I ended up buying a new desktop to put it in, so you never know where these things will lead... but fortunately for me it led me to finally have a 100% FreeBSD box) Sounds like you've since got it working, glad to hear it. TjL From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:35:45 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B909116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:35:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A82443D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:35:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (pD9E68B73.dip.t-dialin.net [217.230.139.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A677F2EBE7; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EA0B3F.3030209@incubus.de> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:43 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041124) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Chen References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> In-Reply-To: <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: John cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:35:45 -0000 Jonathan Chen wrote: > Blame Sun; they don't make it easy for organizations like FreeBSD > to release a binary version of Java. Even Apple doesn't show up in their radar... what do you expect. Java is as proprietary as it gets. (Unfortunately many of us need it.) mkb. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:41:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B5916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:41:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092D343D54 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:41:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lyn000@fallbrook.net) Received: from XPH01 ([68.71.6.235]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with SMTP id <20050116064152.SDBW1403.mta11.adelphia.net@XPH01> for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 01:41:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> From: "Lyn Robie" To: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 22:41:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Lyn Robie List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:41:54 -0000 Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. It's = obvious you guys are hard put to find anyone competent in the user = interfaces. And after such snobbishly rave reviews for FreeBSD on the = web I was expecting better. I installed on an HP533 I386 with the X = Developer package and then discover that the kernel doesn't include the = drivers needed for the Intel 845 graphics chip. Ahem. Not exactly the = rarest beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me that you guys = are not into winning converts from the Linux camp. I suppose you can = draw some cold comfort from knowing your distro installation is so = obscure and bugridden that no one outside of the few grizzled old = graybeard unix administrators will be able to make a system run. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:54:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D102E16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:54:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783E243D49 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:54:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D61960EA; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:54:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 37942-01; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:54:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AAD660E2; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:54:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41EA0FA3.4030202@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:54:27 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lyn Robie References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> In-Reply-To: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:54:24 -0000 Lyn Robie wrote: > Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. *Stuff cut due - idiot has no clue what word wrap is etc.* Where are we getting these 'tards from as of late. Hmm, could be just the one that keeps plastering essance of the same post. -- Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 06:58:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E6716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:58:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9868C43D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:58:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j0G6wC906489 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:58:12 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:58:11 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41EA0FA3.4030202@makeworld.com> Message-ID: References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> <41EA0FA3.4030202@makeworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 06:58:16 -0000 On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Chris wrote: > > Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. > *Stuff cut due - idiot has no clue what word wrap is etc.* > > Where are we getting these 'tards from as of late. Hmm, could be just > the one that keeps plastering essance of the same post. Either that, or they've figured out how to breed... -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 07:11:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0B416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:11:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from outside.taborandtashell.net (sub18-33.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.18.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B134A43D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:11:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net) Received: (qmail 62715 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 23:11:47 -0800 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.9?) (tkelly@192.168.0.9) by 192.168.0.2 with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 23:11:47 -0800 Message-ID: <41EA13B3.8010708@taborandtashell.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:11:47 -0800 From: Tabor Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041230) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lyn Robie References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> In-Reply-To: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:11:49 -0000 Lyn Robie wrote: > Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. It's obv- > ious you guys are hard put to find anyone competent in the user > nterfaces. And after such snobbishly rave reviews for FreeBSD on the > web I was expecting better. I installed on an HP533 I386 with the X > Developer package and then discover that the kernel doesn't include > the drivers needed for the Intel 845 graphics chip. Ahem. Not exactly the > rarest beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me that you guys > are not into winning converts from the Linux camp. I suppose you can draw > some cold comfort from knowing your distro installation is so obscure > and bugridden that no one outside of the few grizzled old graybeard unix > administrators will be able to make a system run. 1. Please break your lines around 72 characters. 2. I am using an i845 as I type to compose this message. 3. There is no "kernel driver" for the i845, I assume you want X? 4. X lives in user land, not kernel land, and the i845 is well supported by both XFree86 4.4.0 and XOrg 6.8.1 (as well as XOrg 6.7.0 for that matter). 5. FreeBSD is focused more at servers than desktops, as suck "we" aren't trying to win over the Linux crowd. 6. I am running FreeBSD on my Dell Inspiron 1100 laptop because I have found it more stable and secure than Linux or Windows. Also, I prefer the port system to the packages systems found on most Linux distros (I came from Debian). -- Tabor Kelly tkelly-freebsd-questions@taborandtashell.net http://tabor.taborandtashell.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 07:35:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F8E16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD3C943D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@spymac.com) Received: from unknown (HELO smogmonster.com) (jtinnin@pacbell.net@67.116.52.197 with login) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 07:35:49 -0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: John Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:35:49 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501152147.13994.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <20050115235739.A20785@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050115235739.A20785@starfire.mn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501152335.49531.krinklyfig@spymac.com> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:35:50 -0000 On Saturday 15 January 2005 09:57 pm, John wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John wrote: > > > Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror. On some web > > > sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just > > > is GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page. The CPU > > > isn't busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is > > > waiting for. It's so bad, it stretches credibility. Then, as I > > > said, on other web sites, it's just fine. Sometimes is stops > > > with 94% loaded and just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it > > > pauses with like "12 out of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it > > > pauses just as soon as it resolves the new URL and connects to > > > the server. VERY odd. > > > > Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some > > images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this > > happens because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm > > not entirely > > Thanks for your response, Joshua! > > Well, your answer is very reasonable given the information I > supplied, but it is not what's happening. I can have my Windoze > work-owned laptop next to it on the table, and it will load up > these pages in a snap. Konqueror isn't getting any data - it sits > there with nothing happening - no data coming across the network. You may have an issue with DNS. You should have DNS servers listed in your /etc/resolv.conf, like this: nameserver 888.888.888.888 (the number is an example - you should use your ISP's nameserver or your internal one, if you've set it up) Is this also an issue with other browsers or network software? If you haven't done so already, you should try Firefox or Opera and see if Konqueror is the problem. > > sure about that, but the upshot is that the browser doesn't know > > what the whole page will look like until an image downloads, as > > there are often page elements which depend on the placement of > > other elements to determine their own placement. However, AFAIK > > this is also considered a bug, because Konqueror doesn't handle > > this issue gracefully, so (again AFAIR) this is something that the > > KDE project is working to correct. I seem to remember something > > about this waiting until KDE version 4, however. I don't speak for > > them, so apologies if this isn't entirely correct. > > > > > So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win > > > 98. 1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD > > > 2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD > > > 3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working > > > 4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY) > > > a CD in my laptop multi-bay > > > > Have you tried mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom > > Oh, yeah - it's not in dmesgs. 4.x used to at least have an > atapi-slave ID timeout, but this doesn't even do that - the kernel > just pauses and goes on without any message. > > It's pretty bizarre - 4.x would boot and actually INSTALL from the > CD, but when you booted from the hard drive, I'd get the ID timeout > message. 5.x boots from the CD, but then can't even install from it. > I boot the CD, then eject it, bring it to another system, and > NFS mount it to complete the installation. Kludgy, but it works. > OK when I'm at home with the other systems, but not much good > when I'm traveling with the laptop... ;) That's strange. It appears to mount the CD and then unmount it, though I'm not sure. Do you have the correct drivers for your CD? > > You've probably been through that, but can't hurt to mention it. > > I appreciate thoroughness. > > > BTW, most of this stuff is covered extensively in the handbook, but > > unfortunately I've never had much luck with ACPI, mostly due to my > > hardware. > > Yup - I was just making a little "to do" list, in case anyone had > any caveats to yell out. I've already heard from the folks on > the ACPI list - I have some "to do's" to try. Good luck. There be dragons. - jt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 08:07:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1ED16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:07:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587E343D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:07:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 6A252285EA; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:07:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id E5F35285E8; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:07:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289A96232; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:07:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0G87KTV037366; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:07:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:07:18 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <41E7F5B3.7050408@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: <20050116085104.R802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050114131018.68217.qmail@web15703.mail.cnb.yahoo.com> <41E7CBFB.1090603@infracaninophile.co.uk> <41E7D5A0.2090004@mail.ru> <41E7F5B3.7050408@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: DNS: querying route DNS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:07:39 -0000 On Jan 14 at 16:39, Matthew Seaman patiently explained: > Andrew P. wrote: >> Matthew Seaman wrote: >> >> I'm sure it won't be difficult for anyone to find a named(8) how-to, >> but I'd be very glad to see your post, please. I currently use djbdns, >> but I'm not very happy with it and I'd like to try something else. > > Sure. Assuming you're using 5.3-RELEASE, 5.3-STABLE or better, then setting > up a recursive-only nameserver is really very simple. > > The system comes with BIND-9.3.0 as standard, and it has all of the > chroot-ing functionality available just by default. All you need do is add > the following to /etc/rc.conf: > > named_enable="YES" Your "howto" was characteristically thorough Matthew. I followed it myself - almost to the letter. At some point I think I had to refer to the Handbook howto as well, but having the Handbook open to the relevant section when doing something new is/should_be mandatory. Upon completion of the process I noted something which I assume to be normal behavior, a new beast has been created /var/named/dev which seems to contain some rather odd creatures indeed. crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 2, 2 Jan 16 08:55 null crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 6, 8 Jan 15 16:28 ptyp8 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 249, 0 Jan 12 12:11 random crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 5, 8 Jan 15 16:28 ttyp8 I (instinctively) assume all this constitutes a rather rugged part of the "jail". All told, and yet again Matthew, thanks for contributing excellent "useable" info. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - "There can be only One" 9:06AM up 3 days, 21:54, 7 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.01, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 08:10:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2BD16A4CE; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:10:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCFA43D1F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:10:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F090D558F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73313-09; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D2B0557D; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20050116081003.4D2B0557D@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-12-26 - 2005-01-15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:10:18 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 09:26:15 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D0816A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:26:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE72E43D64 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:26:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0G9PZR0055441; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:25:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-1-858825360" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:26:00 -0600 To: Lyn Robie X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:26:15 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-858825360 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 16, 2005, at 12:41 AM, Lyn Robie wrote: > Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. It's > obvious you guys are hard put to find anyone competent in the user > interfaces. And after such snobbishly rave reviews for FreeBSD on the > web I was expecting better. I installed on an HP533 I386 with the X > Developer package and then discover that the kernel doesn't include > the drivers needed for the Intel 845 graphics chip. Ahem. Not > exactly the rarest beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me > that you guys are not into winning converts from the Linux camp. I > suppose you can draw some cold comfort from knowing your distro > installation is so obscure and bugridden that no one outside of the > few grizzled old graybeard unix administrators will be able to make a > system run. Looks like you're destined for the same 550 file on my server as mr/ms/it freebsd0101@aol.com... Have a nice day! _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-1-858825360 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHqMygACgkQRAAY9knOW+oEZgCfSDNLZhdOf+x5ei+onV34Dqn7 ZhoAni8KbqsEfkWOitGPPfiLjJm+7rzS =g+7m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-1-858825360-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 09:33:48 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E78D16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:33:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CF243D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:33:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 1BD75285E6; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:34:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 392A428557; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:34:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733696232; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:33:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0G9Xgqi038171; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:33:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:33:40 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Eric F Crist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050116102829.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:33:48 -0000 On Jan 16 at 03:26, Eric F Crist arrived at this conclusion: > On Jan 16, 2005, at 12:41 AM, Lyn Robie wrote: >> beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me that you guys are not into >> winning converts from the Linux camp. I suppose you can draw some cold >> comfort from knowing your distro installation is so obscure and bugridden >> that no one outside of the few grizzled old graybeard unix administrators >> will be able to make a system run. > > Looks like you're destined for the same 550 file on my server as mr/ms/it > freebsd0101@aol.com... [RHETORICAL_MODE=ON] Where, I wonder, are all these folks suddenly coming from? [SUPREME_IRONY_MODE=ON] Well anyway, it's nice to know I'm a grizzled old graybeard unix admin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 09:38:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9A216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:38:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms006msg.fastweb.it (ms006msg.fastweb.it [213.140.2.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F123E43D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:38:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from support@comox.it) Received: from xxx-x24dv.comox.it (37.255.168.94) by ms006msg.fastweb.it (7.2.052) id 41D18E9B0020C6F9 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:48 +0100 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.0.20050117105039.024698b8@pop.comox.it> X-Sender: mail4.comox.it@pop.comox.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:52:46 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Comox_Support Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: permission denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:38:50 -0000 Hi, I'm login as root and trying to start Xserver and Xwindows, how can I go about this ? Do I need to install something first ? How can I test if all files needed to installed are on my system. Thanks, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:38:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B399116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E3743D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tardiss.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.30.82.93]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005011610382201500cme52e>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:23 +0000 Message-ID: <41EA4418.3030406@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:38:16 -0500 From: Sean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: very annoying sound! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsh.lists@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:23 -0000 I am running kde 3.3 and there is one very annoying sound that I cannot find where to turn off. Whenever the system bell beeps there is also a sound of someone trying to clear their throat. It is driving me crazy! I have tried turning all sound on, all sounds off, going through sounds one by one, resets and default options. I cannot turn this sound off. Can anyone help before insanity takes over? Thanks Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:47:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDFF16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:47:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AA143D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:47:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C33960F3; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:47:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42115-09; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:47:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A7760F0; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:47:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41EA4649.7070907@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:47:37 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsh.lists@comcast.net References: <41EA4418.3030406@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <41EA4418.3030406@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: very annoying sound! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:47:33 -0000 Sean wrote: > I am running kde 3.3 and there is one very annoying sound that I cannot > find where to turn off. > Whenever the system bell beeps there is also a sound of someone trying > to clear their throat. It is driving me crazy! > > I have tried turning all sound on, all sounds off, going through sounds > one by one, resets and default options. > I cannot turn this sound off. > > Can anyone help before insanity takes over? > > Thanks > Sean When you finally realize you don't have a sound card and speakers - you'll then know it's the other voices in your head. Next - try posting to the KDE list if you're having issues within KDE. Now, will whomever is doing all this nonsensical postings either get a life or end it? Are you in that much misery? I'm fairly certain this is just a flux of pissed-off Linux users having fun. -- Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:52:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4AA16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:52:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from orbit.kuwaitnet.net (orbit.kuwaitnet.net [216.40.249.67]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB5C43D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:52:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hamad@kuwaitnet.net) Received: from [62.150.223.52] (helo=[127.0.0.1]) by orbit.kuwaitnet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cq81H-0007sw-Co for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:52:32 +0300 Message-ID: <41EA4772.7020104@kuwaitnet.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:52:34 +0300 From: "Hamad M." User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080505020302060907040907" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - orbit.kuwaitnet.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kuwaitnet.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: buildkernel fails with 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:52:38 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080505020302060907040907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-6; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have been trying to build a custom kernel, but I kept getting this error: ===> bktr/bktr cc -O -pipe -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -include /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/shabab/opt_global.h -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -I@/../include -finline-limit=8000 -fno-common -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/shabab -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -c /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c: In function `vbi_read': /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c:1261: error: `FNDELAY' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c:1261: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c:1261: error: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr. *** Error code 1 Any clue on how to get rid of this? -- Regards, Hamad --------------080505020302060907040907 Content-Type: text/plain; name="kernelconfig" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="kernelconfig" machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident shabab options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=15000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. options IPFIREWALL # finger the net options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE # log the net options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT # just what it says options QUOTA # quota options SMP # SMP device apic # I/O APIC device isa device pci device fdc device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support device sc device agp # support several AGP chipsets device npx device pmtimer device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card device loop # Network loopback device mem # Memory and kernel memory devices device io # I/O device device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device bpf # Berkeley packet filter device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) --------------080505020302060907040907-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:53:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1676416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:53:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DD043D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:53:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tardiss.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.30.82.93]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20050116105350011000c3ade>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:53:51 +0000 Message-ID: <41EA47B9.2000802@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:53:45 -0500 From: Sean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris References: <41EA4418.3030406@comcast.net> <41EA4649.7070907@makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <41EA4649.7070907@makeworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: very annoying sound! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsh.lists@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:53:52 -0000 Chris wrote: > Sean wrote: > >> I am running kde 3.3 and there is one very annoying sound that I >> cannot find where to turn off. >> Whenever the system bell beeps there is also a sound of someone trying >> to clear their throat. It is driving me crazy! >> >> I have tried turning all sound on, all sounds off, going through >> sounds one by one, resets and default options. >> I cannot turn this sound off. >> >> Can anyone help before insanity takes over? >> >> Thanks >> Sean > > > When you finally realize you don't have a sound card and speakers - > you'll then know it's the other voices in your head. > > Next - try posting to the KDE list if you're having issues within KDE. > > Now, will whomever is doing all this nonsensical postings either get a > life or end it? Are you in that much misery? > > I'm fairly certain this is just a flux of pissed-off Linux users having > fun. > Finally repeating the same steps over and over again with the sound system managed to turn this damn sound off, so it was not the voices in my head. They tend to more agreeing! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:55:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464EF16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF11543D3F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC3260F3; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:55:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42613-01; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:55:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4592460F0; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:55:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41EA4828.7030101@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:55:36 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsh.lists@comcast.net References: <41EA4418.3030406@comcast.net> <41EA4649.7070907@makeworld.com> <41EA47B9.2000802@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <41EA47B9.2000802@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: very annoying sound! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:32 -0000 Sean wrote: > Chris wrote: > >> Sean wrote: >> >>> I am running kde 3.3 and there is one very annoying sound that I >>> cannot find where to turn off. >>> Whenever the system bell beeps there is also a sound of someone >>> trying to clear their throat. It is driving me crazy! >>> >>> I have tried turning all sound on, all sounds off, going through >>> sounds one by one, resets and default options. >>> I cannot turn this sound off. >>> >>> Can anyone help before insanity takes over? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Sean >> >> >> >> When you finally realize you don't have a sound card and speakers - >> you'll then know it's the other voices in your head. >> >> Next - try posting to the KDE list if you're having issues within KDE. >> >> Now, will whomever is doing all this nonsensical postings either get a >> life or end it? Are you in that much misery? >> >> I'm fairly certain this is just a flux of pissed-off Linux users >> having fun. >> > Finally repeating the same steps over and over again with the sound > system managed to turn this damn sound off, so it was not the voices in > my head. > They tend to more agreeing! Again - if this is in KDE, post to the KDE list. Then again - I'm sure you don't have sound compiled in your kernel either. -- Best regards, Chris The ratio of time involved in work to time available for work is usually about 0.6 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:55:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E921116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4B743D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsh.lists@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tardiss.ne.client2.attbi.com[66.30.82.93]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <200501161055240130092230e>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:34 +0000 Message-ID: <41EA4815.4030607@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 05:55:17 -0500 From: Sean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050106) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Comox_Support References: <6.1.2.0.0.20050117105039.024698b8@pop.comox.it> In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20050117105039.024698b8@pop.comox.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: permission denied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsh.lists@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:55:35 -0000 Comox_Support wrote: > Hi, > > I'm login as root and trying to start Xserver and Xwindows, how can I go > about this ? > Do I need to install something first ? > How can I test if all files needed to installed are on my system. > > Thanks, > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Try 'startx' if it is installed and configured. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 10:59:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1091C16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:59:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBD543D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:59:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2652560F3; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:59:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 42617-02; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:59:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B4360F0; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:59:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41EA4923.3070402@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:59:47 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Colin J. Raven" References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> <20050116102829.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> In-Reply-To: <20050116102829.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:59:43 -0000 Colin J. Raven wrote: > On Jan 16 at 03:26, Eric F Crist arrived at this conclusion: > > >>On Jan 16, 2005, at 12:41 AM, Lyn Robie wrote: > > > >>>beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me that you guys are not into >>>winning converts from the Linux camp. I suppose you can draw some cold >>>comfort from knowing your distro installation is so obscure and bugridden >>>that no one outside of the few grizzled old graybeard unix administrators >>>will be able to make a system run. >> >>Looks like you're destined for the same 550 file on my server as mr/ms/it >>freebsd0101@aol.com... > > > [RHETORICAL_MODE=ON] > Where, I wonder, are all these folks suddenly coming from? Folks? You sir, are being way to kind. > [SUPREME_IRONY_MODE=ON] > Well anyway, it's nice to know I'm a grizzled old graybeard unix admin. Indeed. -- Best regards, Chris The ratio of time involved in work to time available for work is usually about 0.6 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 11:08:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85DA16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp03.eresmas.com (asmtp03.eresmas.com [62.81.235.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BD743D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ea1abz@wanadoo.es) Received: from [192.168.108.52] (helo=mx01.eresmas.com) by asmtp03.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cq8Gu-0001z5-SU; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:08:40 +0100 Received: from [80.103.10.64] (helo=[80.103.10.64]) by mx01.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1Cq8Gu-0001XM-1B; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:08:40 +0100 Message-ID: <41EA4BD2.2030407@wanadoo.es> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:11:14 +0100 From: Ramiro Aceves User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lyn Robie References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> In-Reply-To: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:08:43 -0000 Lyn Robie wrote: >Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. It's >obvious you guys are hard put to find anyone competent in the user >interfaces. And after such snobbishly rave reviews for FreeBSD on the >web I was expecting better. I installed on an HP533 I386 with the X >Developer package and then discover that the kernel doesn't include the >drivers needed for the Intel 845 graphics chip. Ahem. Not exactly the >rarest beast in the jungle. It's perfectly clear to me that you guys >are not into winning converts from the Linux camp. I suppose you can >draw some cold comfort from knowing your distro installation is so >obscure and bugridden that no one outside of the few grizzled old >graybeard unix administrators will be able to make a system run. Never heard such a stupid e-mail! If you do not like the installer, learn how to fix it and do it! I came from Linux and found the installer different to Debian installer, but as soon as I understood it I think it is great! You are the amateurish, not the installer. Your card is well supported in X window, it has nothing to do with kernel driver. You need to read the manual first, you can find it in the install CD, or in the /usr/share/doc/ directory. Good luck. Ramiro. EA1ABZ (ham radio call, is there any radio ham there?). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 11:28:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F15916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:28:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq2.home.nl (smtpq2.home.nl [213.51.128.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CF343D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:28:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roblahaye@home.nl) Received: from [213.51.128.136] (port=35732 helo=smtp5.home.nl) by smtpq2.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cq8aQ-0002TY-26 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:28:50 +0100 Received: from [10.100.3.14] (port=41732 helo=mail.home.nl) by smtp5.home.nl with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cq8aO-000661-Qi for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:28:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.12 (webedge20-101-197-20030912) X-Originating-IP: [147.47.254.184] From: Rob Lahaye To: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:28:48 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Message-Id: <20050116112851.62CF343D1F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Realplayer cannot find libraries, after upgrade from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: lahaye@romeo.snu.ac.kr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:28:52 -0000 Hi, I've just upgraded all my software from recent ports. Now realplayer (10.0.2_1) doesn't run anymore, because it cannot find its libraries: $ ldd /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin | grep "not found" libX11.so.6 => not found libXrandr.so.2 => not found libXi.so.6 => not found libXext.so.6 => not found libXft.so.2 => not found libXrender.so.1 => not found libX11.so.6 => not found libXft.so.2 => not found libXrender.so.1 => not found libX11.so.6 => not found $ ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 Any idea what's the problem here? Thanks, Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 12:14:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800BE16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:14:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dave.horsfall.org (mrdavi2.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.75.233]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A07443D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:14:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by dave.horsfall.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j0GCEQH07024 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:14:26 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:14:26 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050116102829.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> Message-ID: References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> <20050116102829.E802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:14:30 -0000 On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: > [RHETORICAL_MODE=ON] > Where, I wonder, are all these folks suddenly coming from? > [SUPREME_IRONY_MODE=ON] > Well anyway, it's nice to know I'm a grizzled old graybeard unix admin. I'll bet my beard's greyer than yours! Edition 5, on a PDP-11/40, in 1975. -- Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 12:36:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D7216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:36:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from codegurus.org (cpc2-stoc7-3-0-cust147.midd.cable.ntl.com [81.104.76.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABEF043D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:36:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) Received: from codegurus.org (codegurus.org [192.168.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by codegurus.org (8.13.2/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0GCag4D018374 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:36:42 GMT (envelope-from mwalker@codegurus.org) From: Mick Walker To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:36:41 +0000 Message-Id: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Set up of Wireless on laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:36:24 -0000 Hi all, I have bought myself a wireless network card (Linksys WPC11 VER 3), it is detected by the kernel and it shows up in ifconfig as wi0. However I cant seem to get it to work, I have followed the instructions in the hand book, it works fine if I disable wep on the wireless access point, however with it enabled it doesn't work at all. Could someone give me a brief outline of how to get wep working? If you need any other data, I would be happy to help. Thanks Mick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 12:47:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F124B16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:47:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nagual.st (cc20684-a.assen1.dr.home.nl [217.122.132.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF5543D49 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:47:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dick@nagual.st) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1000) by nagual.st with local; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:47:15 +0100 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:47:15 +0100 To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20050116124715.GA524@pooh.nagual.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i From: Dick Hoogendijk Subject: php.ini X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:47:34 -0000 I installed php4 from ports. In /usr/local/etc are two files, php.ini-recommended and php.ini-dist. I have two questions: (a) I understand the recommended file is the most secure (?) (b) To what location do I have to copy one of them as php.ini? I read somewhere that I need to copy the file to /usr/local/lib. Is that right? The manual does not mention it ;-( Any help would be appreciated. -- dick -- http://www.nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.10 ++ Debian GNU/Linux (Woody) + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 12:57:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3050416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:57:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9697443D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:57:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 7FDDF2841F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:57:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 0ACE528419; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:57:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4340C6252; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:57:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0GCvHNV065923; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:57:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:57:15 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Dave Horsfall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050116133237.G802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:57:32 -0000 On Jan 16 at 23:14, Dave Horsfall launched this into the bitstream: > On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Colin J. Raven wrote: > >> [RHETORICAL_MODE=ON] >> Where, I wonder, are all these folks suddenly coming from? >> [SUPREME_IRONY_MODE=ON] >> Well anyway, it's nice to know I'm a grizzled old graybeard unix admin. > > I'll bet my beard's greyer than yours! Edition 5, on a PDP-11/40, in > 1975. Done, you win. Unconditionally! I've only been *nix'ing (?) for a few years. I first *saw* a Unix server in 1994..and that was a BSD oddly enough. IIRC I *think* it was BSDI. I thought it was some form of black magic. I had no contact whatsoever from an admin point of view for a number of years, except as a shell account user which was handy enough to learn the basics (and become addicted to shell). Then around '99 I started periodically installing some Linux or BSD version on a Frankenputer occasionally to see what was what. I got serious about BSD in 2003 when a colleague installed it on a shared datacenter based server. Then recently I installed 5.3 at home and that's it...I'm hooked...there's no going back now :) Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One 1:57PM up 4 days, 2:45, 8 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.01, 0.00 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 13:03:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C958216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:03:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB6343D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:03:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CqALV-000Lij-Ly for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:21:33 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:03:45 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <1105761003.669.17.camel@owl2> <200501151058.42031.ian@codepad.net> <20050115151721.0db98c5c@vixen42.local.lan> In-Reply-To: <20050115151721.0db98c5c@vixen42.local.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501161303.45688.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: Software mirgration from Windows for my friend X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:03:49 -0000 On Saturday 15 January 2005 21:17, Vulpes Velox wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:58:41 +0000 > > Xian wrote: > > On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:50, Sergei Gnezdov wrote: > > > > > > - WinAMP > > > > Xmms (only under FeeSBIE), it even looks and feels like WinAMP > > I am confused by this comment, I thought it looked like winamp and > worked a lot like it under any system it ran on? > > I meant I've only used it under FreeSBIE. It does look and work like WinAMP everywhere it runs. -- /Xian "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move in the opposite direction." Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 13:17:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEF716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:17:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB1043D4C for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:17:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CqAHg-000Jbk-09 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:17:36 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:17:35 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050116124715.GA524@pooh.nagual.st> In-Reply-To: <20050116124715.GA524@pooh.nagual.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501161317.35235.ian@codepad.net> Subject: Re: php.ini X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:17:39 -0000 On Sunday 16 January 2005 12:47, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > I installed php4 from ports. In /usr/local/etc are two files, > php.ini-recommended and php.ini-dist. I have two questions: > (a) I understand the recommended file is the most secure (?) > (b) To what location do I have to copy one of them as php.ini? I read > somewhere that I need to copy the file to /usr/local/lib. Is that right? > The manual does not mention it ;-( > Any help would be appreciated. I installed PHP from the source code not ports, but my php.ini file is /usr/local/lib/php.ini -- /Xian "You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist" Golda Meir From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 13:29:46 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0080516A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:29:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.celeritystorm.com (mail.celeritystorm.com [213.247.62.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8676F43D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:29:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from user@celeritystorm.com) Received: from [192.168.0.1] (unknown [81.84.175.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.celeritystorm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7933D74B9 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:29:16 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EA6BE1.5090205@celeritystorm.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:28:01 +0000 From: - User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (X11/20040724) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD with ProPolice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:29:46 -0000 Hey, I'd like to know if this patch ( http://www.research.ibm.com/trl/projects/security/ssp/ ) still applies on 5.3-RELEASE. I know some apps need to write to the stack, and these will fail with this patch on.. Anyone knows of such commonly used applications ? Thanks in advance! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 13:43:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BF416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:43:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-07.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2B5143D2F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:43:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com) Received: (qmail 19811 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 13:43:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.100.6.10?) (203.206.229.203) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 13:42:54 -0000 From: Warren To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:40:35 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501162340.35311.shinjii@virusinfo.rdksupportinc.com> Subject: 5.3 prob reading 4.11 hdd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:43:04 -0000 I recently took my primary hdd running FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE out of my main machine leaving my 2ndry hdd in the machine and installing FreeBSD5.3-STABLE on it to use as the new primary. When everything was done and i plugged in the 2nd hdd that priginally had 4.11-STABLE on it, i was unable to find the individual partitions/slices on there to mount so i could access all the old data i had. I have a basic understanding of FreeBSD but am still not quite proficent when it comes to this sort of thing. Below is the dislabel output of the drive im wanting to get all the data from.. # /dev/ad1s1c: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 234436482 63 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit e: 234436482 63 4.2BSD 2048 16384 89 partition c: partition extends past end of unit disklabel: partition c doesn't start at 0! disklabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard system utilities partition e: partition extends past end of unit ========== Any help in recovering the copius amounts of data would be greatly appreciated. -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 13:52:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0237516A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:52:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cheyenne.wixb.com (cheyenne.wixb.com [65.43.82.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7BE43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:52:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116075053.00bf6a98@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:52:47 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: upgrading from 5.3 to current X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:52:49 -0000 This is rather a nubee question.. I am used to OBSD and how to update my sources...but seem to be missing something with FREEBSD. I installed 5.3 release and all I want to do now is update the source files on the disk to current. Does someone have a web page that can show these steps? I read up on CVS, but OBSD seems very straight forward - this seems a bit more challenging... any assistance will be appreciated. -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:02:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A183616A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:02:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D0D43D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:02:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CqAz6-000PgQ-En; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:02:28 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:02:00 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <15752.80.127.55.226.1105826198.squirrel@80.127.55.226> In-Reply-To: <15752.80.127.55.226.1105826198.squirrel@80.127.55.226> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501161402.00282.ian@codepad.net> cc: maarfree@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: KDM, KDE 3.3 and xmodmap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:02:29 -0000 On Saturday 15 January 2005 21:56, Maarten wrote: >Does anyone know how to configure KDM or KDE so that is uses xmodmap? > >The configuration is pretty much out of the box, 5.3. > >For some reason using "custom" from the KDM menu with .xsession: > >#!/bin/sh >xmodmap -e 'keycode 203=F13' >exec startkde > >Does start kde but ignores the xmodmap entry. > >If i do 'sh .xsession' after login xmodmap is processed and I get a >message KDE is already running :-) > >Thanks, > >Maarten I think KDM completely ignores ~/.xsession and ~/.xinit files out of the box. I don't know how to change this. If you want to test your ~/.xsession and ~/.xinit files you can type startx -- :1 to start up another Xserver. Also I can't seem to find any logic to what uses ~/.xsession and what uses ~/.xinit so I hard linked them to the same file. -- /Xian "If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the seriousness of the situation" unknown author From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:06:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25AD16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:06:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mato.luukku.com (mato.luukku.com [193.209.83.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A90743D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:06:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from localhost (mta3-o.i.luukku.com [10.0.1.132]) by mta3-o.i.luukku.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4165100117; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:06:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from rekon (92a7.dsl.mtv3.fi [82.203.167.146]) by mato.luukku.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A8EEF22EE8B; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:06:07 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <012801c4fbd4$8dc3e280$92a7cb52@rekon> From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116075053.00bf6a98@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:06:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Re: upgrading from 5.3 to current X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:06:09 -0000 > This is rather a nubee question.. > > I am used to OBSD and how to update my sources...but seem to be > missing something with FREEBSD. > > I installed 5.3 release and all I want to do now is update the source > files on the disk to current. Very easy, all explained in the handbook. If on Intel, cvsup is your friend. Are you sure you'll want to install CURRENT, by the way? - In the FreeBSD context CURRENT is more like development alpha version, STABLE branch is more like beta, and RELENG branches are the bug and security fix branches of the original release. All explained in the handbook. > Does someone have a web page that can show these steps? http://www.freebsd.org/handbook, See chapter 19 and appendix A. -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:15:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4F216A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:15:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpq1.home.nl (smtpq1.home.nl [213.51.128.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91CD43D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:15:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from roblahaye@home.nl) Received: from [213.51.128.134] (port=45490 helo=smtp3.home.nl) by smtpq1.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CqBBY-0005OR-JW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:15:20 +0100 Received: from [10.100.3.10] (port=63124 helo=mail.home.nl) by smtp3.home.nl with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CqBBX-0000Ql-8i for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:15:19 +0100 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.12 (webedge20-101-197-20030912) X-Originating-IP: [147.46.44.181] From: Rob Lahaye To: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:15:19 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Neem contact op met support@home.nl voor meer informatie X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Message-Id: <20050116141521.B91CD43D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Realplayer cannot find libraries, after upgrade from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: lahaye@romeo.snu.ac.kr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:15:22 -0000 Rob Lahaye wrote: > Hi, > > I've just upgraded all my software from recent ports. > Now realplayer (10.0.2_1) doesn't run anymore, because it cannot > find its libraries: > > $ ldd /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin | grep "not found" > libX11.so.6 => not found > libXrandr.so.2 => not found > libXi.so.6 => not found > libXext.so.6 => not found > libXft.so.2 => not found > libXrender.so.1 => not found > libX11.so.6 => not found > libXft.so.2 => not found > libXrender.so.1 => not found > libX11.so.6 => not found > $ ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 > /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 Meanwhile I've solved the problem with a: # portupgrade -frRv linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1 Sorry for the noise. Rob. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:19:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B37216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:19:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cheyenne.wixb.com (cheyenne.wixb.com [65.43.82.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2306143D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:19:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116081854.00c00d60@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:19:27 -0600 To: "Reko Turja" , From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <012801c4fbd4$8dc3e280$92a7cb52@rekon> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116075053.00bf6a98@cheyenne.wixb.com> <012801c4fbd4$8dc3e280$92a7cb52@rekon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: upgrading from 5.3 to current X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:19:29 -0000 At 08:06 AM 1/16/2005, Reko Turja wrote: >>This is rather a nubee question.. >> >>I am used to OBSD and how to update my sources...but seem to be missing >>something with FREEBSD. >> >>I installed 5.3 release and all I want to do now is update the source >>files on the disk to current. > > >Very easy, all explained in the handbook. If on Intel, cvsup is your >friend. Are you sure you'll want to install CURRENT, by the way? - In the >FreeBSD context CURRENT is more like development alpha version, STABLE >branch is more like beta, and RELENG branches are the bug and security fix >branches of the original release. All explained in the handbook. > >>Does someone have a web page that can show these steps? > >http://www.freebsd.org/handbook, See chapter 19 and appendix A. > >-Reko thanks. I am going to track STABLE...you are right. I am installing cvsup without GUI and then I will try to set this up... -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:19:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C2316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:19:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from t-x.dignus.nl (t-x.dignus.nl [83.219.88.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA7B43D2D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:19:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost.dignus.nl [127.0.0.1]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 4E70428559 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:20:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (cjr-home [62.251.72.148]) by t-x.dignus.nl (Safehouse) with ESMTP id 7B0A428423 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:20:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (localhost.kozy-kabin.nl [127.0.0.1]) by kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62EB6250 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:19:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (colin@localhost)j0GEJoSP067011 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:19:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from colin@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:19:46 +0100 From: "Colin J. Raven" To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050116145444.M802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by RemSPAMd at ph230.plushosting.nl Subject: Samba3/CUPS printing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:19:57 -0000 It would seem as if my HP psc2105 printer is recognised under FreeBSD-5.3, but of course there are some minor issues. Without reopening old wounds lpd(?) vs CUPS, this is what I'm getting from /var/log/messages: Jan 16 14:54:13 kenmore smbd[65656]: [2005/01/16 14:54:13, 0] printing/print_cups.c:cups_queue_get(844) Jan 16 14:54:13 kenmore smbd[65656]: Unable to connect to CUPS server localhost - Connection refused That is what heppened when I tried to print a test page from an XP workstation. (Samba configured using SWAT BTW) I'm half way there (or not depending on how you choose to look at it) can anyone help out in getting the printer to actually [gasp] *print* something?? Regards & TIA, -Colin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:21:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC8D16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:21:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 9.hellooperator.net (cpc3-cdif2-3-0-cust202.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.103.32.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6AE43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:21:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rasputin@hellooperator.net) Received: from rasputin by 9.hellooperator.net with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CqBHX-000456-9d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:21:31 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:21:31 +0000 From: Dick Davies To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20050116142131.GF26970@lb.tenfour> References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> <41EA4BD2.2030407@wanadoo.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41EA4BD2.2030407@wanadoo.es> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: Dick Davies Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dick Davies List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:21:32 -0000 * Ramiro Aceves [0109 11:09]: > Lyn Robie wrote: > > >Rarely have I found such an amateurish installation procedure. It's > >obvious you guys are hard put to find anyone competent in the user > >interfaces. > Never heard such a stupid e-mail! > > If you do not like the installer, learn how to fix it and do it! Sorry, but that's nonsense, it smacks of 'where's the doc'/'read the source' attitude of a decade ago. People are allowed to say 'your installer sucks' without having to learn C. I don't need to sign an NDA to be able to hate Outlook Express. Although I agree that some constructive suggestions would be useful, rather than flamebait. Incidentally, next time one of these guys posts a 'you suck,bye bye' mail, can we try to avoid mailing the list about it for two weeks? If you want to send a 'piss off back to linux' message, you can do it off list. -- 'My life, and by extension everyone else's, is meaningless.' -- Bender Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:28:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEB016A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC1843D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ian@codepad.net) Received: from [80.229.159.44] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CqBO1-000GzP-3O; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:13 +0000 From: Xian To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:12 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> In-Reply-To: <000601c4fb96$79575810$640aa8c0@XPH01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501161428.12272.ian@codepad.net> cc: Lyn Robie Subject: Re: 5.3 Install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:14 -0000 On Sunday 16 January 2005 06:41, Lyn Robie wrote: >grizzled old graybeard unix administrators will be able to make a system run. I'm old and going grey at age 17 am I? That would be due to M$ stuff I used before I went FreeBSD! ;-) -- /Xian "No, this trick won't work...How on earth are you ever going to explain in terms of chemistry and physics so important a biological phenomenon as first love?" Albert Einstein From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 14:28:49 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FD316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (73.Red-213-97-200.pooles.rima-tde.net [213.97.200.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57C443D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org) Received: from scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org (scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org [192.168.100.1]) by mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA4293567D; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:28:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:28:28 +0100 From: Miguel Mendez To: "Colin J. Raven" Message-Id: <20050116152828.78abcc5a.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20050116145444.M802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> References: <20050116145444.M802@kenmore.kozy-kabin.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0-gtk2-20041224 (GTK+ 2.4.14; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__16_Jan_2005_15_28_28_+0100_UGBwKO2rtFfFaqe7" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba3/CUPS printing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:28:49 -0000 --Signature=_Sun__16_Jan_2005_15_28_28_+0100_UGBwKO2rtFfFaqe7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:19:46 +0100 "Colin J. Raven" wrote: Hi, > It would seem as if my HP psc2105 printer is recognised under > FreeBSD-5.3, but of course there are some minor issues. > Without reopening old wounds lpd(?) vs CUPS, this is what I'm getting > from /var/log/messages: > > Jan 16 14:54:13 kenmore smbd[65656]: [2005/01/16 14:54:13, 0] > printing/print_cups.c:cups_queue_get(844) > Jan 16 14:54:13 kenmore smbd[65656]: Unable to connect to CUPS > server localhost - Connection refused > > That is what heppened when I tried to print a test page from an XP > workstation. (Samba configured using SWAT BTW) Is cupsd running? Did you copy cups.sh.sample in /usr/local/etc/rc.d to cups.sh? Sounds like cups is either not started or not properly configured yet. You can access the CUPS setup interface by pointing a browser to http://localhost:631 Cheers, -- Miguel Mendez http://www.energyhq.es.eu.org PGP Key: 0xDC8514F1 --Signature=_Sun__16_Jan_2005_15_28_28_+0100_UGBwKO2rtFfFaqe7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6noPnLctrNyFFPERAv0LAKC9aVeFfEmWS6UIcnsIcEy9FIIsjwCbB/3W c2T4oHGCDgN5dYKgDikh5oA= =Cu26 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__16_Jan_2005_15_28_28_+0100_UGBwKO2rtFfFaqe7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 15:35:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E4716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:35:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from viefep20-int.chello.at (viefep12-int.chello.at [213.46.255.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205BD43D54 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:35:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu) Received: from hyperduron ([80.99.33.169]) by viefep20-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with ESMTP id <20050116153513.WNGG29966.viefep20-int.chello.at@hyperduron> for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:35:13 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?S/Z2ZXNk4W4gR+Fib3I=?=" To: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:35:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Thread-Index: AcT74QSh40vg6NcwQ5mRvlFWQ9WU/g== Message-Id: <20050116153513.WNGG29966.viefep20-int.chello.at@hyperduron> Subject: IPF firewalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:35:16 -0000 Hi, I have some trouble with the ipf configuration. I made the following ruleset: pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 68 keep state pass in quick proto udp from any to any port =3D 53 keep state keep = frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port =3D 42 keep = state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 22 flags S keep = state pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 25 keep state pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 21 keep state pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 20 keep state pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 80 keep state block return-rst in log quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log quick on rl0 proto udp from = any to any block in quick on rl0 all pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all Everything seems okay, but the named. Neiher the ISP's nameserver (set = by the dhcp) nor the local nameserver works. BIND 9 wrote this to /var/log/messages: Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: starting BIND 9.3.0 -u named -t /usr/local/named -c /etc/named.conf Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: = address in use Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface re0 failed; interface ignored Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: = address in use Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: not listening on any interfaces Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: /etc/named.conf:14: couldn't add = command channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in use Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: permission denied Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface re0 failed; interface ignored Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: permission denied Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; interface ignored The rndc doesn't matter, I'm not going to use it, but the neither named = can listen on the network and the loopback interface. Could You suggest me = any solution for this trouble? Btw, this machine is going to be a web, dns, mail, etc. server and is being tested on an ordinary cable connection, that's why I'm using dhcp. Best regards, G=E1bor K=F6vesd=E1n From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 16:08:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD71E16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:08:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [198.92.228.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5827E43D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:08:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEC060F3; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:08:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 43751-09; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:08:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from [198.92.228.34] (racerx.makeworld.com [198.92.228.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6148B60F0; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:08:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <41EA918E.1080609@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:08:46 -0600 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20050101) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mick Walker References: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org> In-Reply-To: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Set up of Wireless on laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:08:40 -0000 Mick Walker wrote: > Hi all, > I have bought myself a wireless network card (Linksys WPC11 VER 3), it > is detected by the kernel and it shows up in ifconfig as wi0. > However I cant seem to get it to work, I have followed the instructions > in the hand book, it works fine if I disable wep on the wireless access > point, however with it enabled it doesn't work at all. > Could someone give me a brief outline of how to get wep working? > If you need any other data, I would be happy to help. > > Thanks > Mick Mick, Try something like this in /etc/rc.conf ifconfig_wi0="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.xxx ssid SOMESSID wepmode on wepkey 0xXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Where SOMESSIS is the name of your WAP and where the 0xXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX is the wep key (128 in this case) -- Best regards, Chris A $300.00 picture tube will protect a 10c fuse by blowing first. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 16:35:59 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A46816A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:35:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D138043D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:35:58 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0GGZHNH063202; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:35:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org> References: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-2-884606088" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:35:41 -0600 To: Mick Walker X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Set up of Wireless on laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:35:59 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2-884606088 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 16, 2005, at 6:36 AM, Mick Walker wrote: > Hi all, > I have bought myself a wireless network card (Linksys WPC11 VER 3), it > is detected by the kernel and it shows up in ifconfig as wi0. > However I cant seem to get it to work, I have followed the instructions > in the hand book, it works fine if I disable wep on the wireless access > point, however with it enabled it doesn't work at all. > Could someone give me a brief outline of how to get wep working? > If you need any other data, I would be happy to help. > > Thanks > Mick For example, try something similar to this: ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.0.20 netmask 0xffffff00 ssid my_net wepmode on wepkey 0x8736639624 For more information, see man 4 wi HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-2-884606088 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHql90ACgkQRAAY9knOW+pKlACgjX1+kH6onK76BnIcLmMCK8He I3YAnAxeYBDH7K2xJ0nX1acLkd1vz0TL =Z7O0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-2-884606088-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 16:38:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED1716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:38:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shadow.wixb.com (shadow.wixb.com [65.43.82.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215F843D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:38:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:53 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:38:55 -0000 I am having random reboots on my 5.3 system even using GENERIC. I am wondering, what do I have to do to enable some sort of debug/crash log...I dont want the thing to just reboot w/o telling me why. When this happens, there are no logs...just a reboot and then the FSCK. I believe I need to compile some options into a kernel to trap this, but dunno...where... Thanks in advance guys :) -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 16:50:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9339B16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:50:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DD843D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:50:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0GGnSTe063547; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:49:28 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-3-885457279" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:49:52 -0600 To: "J.D. Bronson" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:50:03 -0000 --Apple-Mail-3-885457279 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 16, 2005, at 10:38 AM, J.D. Bronson wrote: > I am having random reboots on my 5.3 system > even using GENERIC. > > I am wondering, what do I have to do to enable some sort of debug/crash > log...I dont want the thing to just reboot w/o telling me why. > > When this happens, there are no logs...just a reboot and then the FSCK. > > I believe I need to compile some options into a kernel to trap this, > but dunno...where... > > Thanks in advance guys :) If you enable debugging in the kernel, IIRC, you should have a dump file in the system root directory when the system crashes. If you tell us a little more about the system you're using, such as hardware, specific services you're running, we might be able to tell you why it's crashing. Also, the output of uname -a would be beneficial. HTH _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-3-885457279 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHqmzAACgkQRAAY9knOW+onGQCfRxplgb/gV69cmr8h/sBiB6lV VB4An3ORpFLoNPhF1YLwQjO4wg169rLj =uMjv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-3-885457279-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:01:40 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3DE16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:01:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shadow.wixb.com (shadow.wixb.com [65.43.82.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD34643D2F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:01:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116105704.00c08218@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:01:38 -0600 To: Eric F Crist From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:01:40 -0000 At 10:49 AM 1/16/2005, you wrote: >If you enable debugging in the kernel, IIRC, you should have a dump file >in the system root directory when the system crashes. If you tell us a >little more about the system you're using, such as hardware, specific >services you're running, we might be able to tell you why it's >crashing. Also, the output of uname -a would be beneficial. > >HTH I was running 5.3 RELEASE. I just updated to 5.3-STABLE to see how things go. FreeBSD shadow 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 16 09:47:10 CST 2005 root@shadow:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/SHADOW i386 This is a Pentium 4 3.06(HTT) and I have enabled SMP. it runs very well, but anywhere from an hour to a week and the machine reboots. Last time this happened, I had disconnected the LAN from the machine in case something was causing this from the network. (nope). I then thought it was related to SCSI, so I installed a new 5.3 on IDE. Still reboots. I have 2 identical machines and they both exhibit this. So I doubt its faulty hardware. These machines can run any other OS for weeks on end. Just freebsd 5.3 causes issues. 5.2.1 was rock solid for months and no reboots. (I dont do upgrades, but fresh installs..) so when I installed 5.3 the trouble started. last week I had a panic which caused the machine to halt and I posted it here. No dump file though and no reply. All I did was telnet into the machine and it panicked. So...before I give up on 5.3, I wanted to see if there was anything I could do to help the developers track down this reboot_at_random troubles. PS - these machines have less than 10 users and virtually no load. All they do is run DNS and SMTP. -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:07:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF8616A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:07:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8109143D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:07:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marko@freebsd.org) Received: from [80.229.231.20] (helo=[192.168.254.25]) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1CqDro-000Du8-EH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:07:08 +0000 Message-ID: <41EA9F3B.9000806@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:07:07 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (X11/20050115) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Ctrl+Shift not working in KDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:07:09 -0000 KDE 3.3.2 Any key combination that includes Ctrl+Shift doesn't work, e.g. Ctrl+Shift+C to MArk All Read in Thunderbird or Ctrl+Shift+D to Uncomment a line in KWrite. It is the combination that is ignored; Ctrl+ and Shift+ work as expected. I've looked at all the keyboard stuff in Regional 7 Accessibility but can't find anything. Anyone got any ideas? TIA Regards, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:15:16 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A7116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from anarchy.primalinsanity.com (anarchy.primalinsanity.com [207.44.197.147]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682D743D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from villain@anarchy.primalinsanity.com) Received: from anarchy.primalinsanity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by anarchy.primalinsanity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A41623500 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from villain@localhost) by anarchy.primalinsanity.com (8.13.1/8.13.0/Submit) id j0GHF5VB011049 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:05 GMT Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:02 +0000 From: villain To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050116171502.GA8764@anarchy.primalinsanity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: My 'ls' is all messed up?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:16 -0000 This happened today for unknown reasons: root# cd /etc ; ls X11/ disktab localtime netstart* phones remote aliases@ dumpdates locate.rc network.subr ppp/ resolv.conf aliases.db fbtab login.access networks printcap rmt@ amd.map fstab login.conf newsyslog.conf profile rpc apmd.conf ftpusers login.conf.db nsmb.conf protocols services auth.conf gettytab mac.conf nsswitch.conf pwd.db shells bluetooth/ gnats/ mail/ ntp.conf* rc skel/ crontab group mail.rc opieaccess rc.conf spwd.db csh.cshrc host.conf make.conf opiekeys rc.d/ ssh/ csh.login hosts manpath.config pam.d/ rc.firewall ssl/ csh.logout hosts.allow manpath.config.bak passwd rc.firewall6 sysctl.conf cvsupfile* hosts.equiv master.passwd pccard_ether* rc.resume* syslog.conf defaults/ hosts.lpd motd periodic/ rc.sendmail termcap@ devd.conf inetd.conf mtree/ periodic.conf* rc.shutdown ttys devfs.conf isdn/ namedb@ pf.conf rc.subr usbd.conf dhclient.conf issue.net netconfig pf.os rc.suspend* wall_cmos_clock What happened to the orderly fashion everything used to be displayed in? I haven't done anything to ls, nor anything else worth mentioning! Thanks, chris mv @ http://anarchy.primalinsanity.com/~villain/madvillain.jpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:15:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A6316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mato.luukku.com (mato.luukku.com [193.209.83.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2C043D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from localhost (mta3-o.i.luukku.com [10.0.1.132]) by mta3-o.i.luukku.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10ACCFFAD1; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:15:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from rekon (92a7.dsl.mtv3.fi [82.203.167.146]) by mato.luukku.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DB3B122EE89; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:15:27 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <025001c4fbef$01942ca0$92a7cb52@rekon> From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116105704.00c08218@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:15:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:15:33 -0000 > last week I had a panic which caused the machine to halt and I posted > it here. No dump file though and no reply. All I did was telnet into > the machine and it panicked. > > So...before I give up on 5.3, I wanted to see if there was anything I > could do to help the developers track down this reboot_at_random > troubles. See the developers hanbook from the FreeBSD website: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ Section III chapter 11. FreBSD is quite well documented once you know where to find the information - and most of it can be found in the FreeBSD website. By the way did you only update the kernel, or did you do buildworld/installworld as well? -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:19:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEAD16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:19:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from shadow.wixb.com (shadow.wixb.com [65.43.82.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4EE43D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:19:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116111733.00c20ed8@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:18:24 -0600 To: "Reko Turja" From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <025001c4fbef$01942ca0$92a7cb52@rekon> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116105704.00c08218@cheyenne.wixb.com> <025001c4fbef$01942ca0$92a7cb52@rekon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:19:26 -0000 At 11:15 AM 1/16/2005, you wrote: >See the developers hanbook from the FreeBSD website: >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ >Section III chapter 11. FreBSD is quite well documented once you know >where to find the information - and most of it can be found in the FreeBSD >website. > >By the way did you only update the kernel, or did you do >buildworld/installworld as well? > >-Reko for the moment, I only did the kernel. I dont want to spend alot of time on this if its still unstable. Looks like as long as I add DDB to the kernel and make it, I should get some crash dump ? -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:26:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D7D16A4CF for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:26:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mato.luukku.com (mato.luukku.com [193.209.83.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D61643D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:26:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from reko.turja@liukuma.net) Received: from localhost (mta3-o.i.luukku.com [10.0.1.132]) by mta3-o.i.luukku.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49878FF87F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:26:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from rekon (92a7.dsl.mtv3.fi [82.203.167.146]) by mato.luukku.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D7C922EE8C; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:26:25 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <026901c4fbf0$895490c0$92a7cb52@rekon> From: "Reko Turja" To: References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116105704.00c08218@cheyenne.wixb.com> <025001c4fbef$01942ca0$92a7cb52@rekon> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116111733.00c20ed8@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:26:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:26:26 -0000 > for the moment, I only did the kernel. I dont want to spend alot of > time on this if its still unstable. > > Looks like as long as I add DDB to the kernel and make it, I should > get some crash dump ? Yes, but you'll need to define the dump device and place to save the dump from the swap in the next reboot. In addition makeoptions DEBUG=-g is needed in the kernel config as well (symbols!) and options DDB_UNATTENDED can be a good idea. I think that separate kernel and userland is a bad idea, especially now, when you have 5.3_STABLE kernel, and 5.3_RELENG userland. There are small and subtle changes in both which make the correct userland/kernel combination vital and following the correct procedure of compiling/installing them. -Reko From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:32:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E3316A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:32:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEA943D2D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:32:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DC458519F0; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:32:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:32:26 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: - Message-ID: <20050116173226.GA70453@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41EA6BE1.5090205@celeritystorm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41EA6BE1.5090205@celeritystorm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD with ProPolice ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:32:29 -0000 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 01:28:01PM +0000, - wrote: > Hey, >=20 > I'd like to know if this patch (=20 > http://www.research.ibm.com/trl/projects/security/ssp/ ) still applies=20 > on 5.3-RELEASE. I know some apps need to write to the stack, and these=20 > will fail with this patch on.. Anyone knows of such commonly used=20 > applications ? A few years ago when I tried, XFree86 wouldn't work properly (probably the module loader). This is out of date information though. Kris --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6qUqWry0BWjoQKURAkDpAKDtKJ0C7WRgFOqUwaNMBm0fWrr8ewCfYju7 O/pliBEU7wl4Lg55Xo1hpfU= =StfJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:36:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1536716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:36:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBA343D2F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:36:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from bsdbox.farid-hajji.net (bsdbox [192.168.254.3]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AA54B932; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:36:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:36:57 +0100 From: cpghost@cordula.ws To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050116173657.GA68560@bsdbox.farid-hajji.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: Steganographic FS for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:36:03 -0000 Hello, is there some equivalent to StegFS [1] on FreeBSD; preferably in combination with GBDE? Yes, I'm aware of the problem with StegFS cited in paragraph 4.1 of [2] by Poul-Henning Kamp: "If we include the attacker in the analysis, she will soon know that the facility used is STEGFS, and consequently that multiple levels of keys are not only a possibility but to be expected." However, having StegFS as an optional part of GBDE would be a good idea anyway. If everyone has a StegFS-capable GBDE by default in the OS, wouldn't that help increase the deniability of it being *used* in the first place? 1: http://www.mcdonald.org.uk/StegFS/ 2: http://phk.freebsd.dk/pubs/bsdcon-03.gbde.paper.pdf Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:44:03 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A8516A4D0 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:44:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1F343D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:44:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-160-208-232.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.160.208.232]) by pi.codefab.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0GHhwC3054170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:44:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41EAA854.1040500@mac.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:45:56 -0500 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Buelow References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41EA0B3F.3030209@incubus.de> In-Reply-To: <41EA0B3F.3030209@incubus.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.90.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.5 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=disabled version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on pi.codefab.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:44:03 -0000 Matthias Buelow wrote: > Jonathan Chen wrote: >> Blame Sun; they don't make it easy for organizations like FreeBSD >> to release a binary version of Java. > > Even Apple doesn't show up in their radar... what do you expect. This is untrue. The Mac Runtime for Java is a high-priority environment for both Apple and Sun. Apple has been creating and pushing back some pretty significant improvements in how to share JVM's between processes more efficiently in terms of shared memory usage, and reduce the dynamic loading startup costs. > Java is as proprietary as it gets. (Unfortunately many of us need it.) Nonsense. While Java isn't OSI Open Source compliant, it's more open than anything which *doesn't* come with the sources included. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 17:57:07 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAF016A4E6 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:57:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3897A43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:57:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from subhro.kar@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so241620rne for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:57:04 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:message-id; b=JsY96gaXG3pAhrNfAmi9IJxJFVTdtm1bLCVBmyahYeHnsI/4X9lArJZ7SXoI2E8zPWKgDYPQDCY3JBuATHaYjgKcAOGQrPHSbGlZWpsjYS/oEG9k38+zS+O9xMe2JP3koPWqK/Q8BS9YINw/K1i/gnAmFyjLNs2HZbqhTEToeQ4= Received: by 10.38.70.9 with SMTP id s9mr241372rna; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:57:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from Firebox ([220.225.80.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTP id 71sm693rnb.2005.01.16.09.57.02; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:57:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Subhro" To: Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:26:43 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C4FC22.D621BF40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcT79LxFfIIA+uj8Tqmm7AG/XC8PUA== Message-ID: <41eaaaf0.5c5fbd82.574c.0014@smtp.gmail.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Data Limiting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:57:07 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C4FC22.D621BF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello folks, I need your suggestion about limiting the data that can be transferred by each of the hosts on a LAN. Let me explain my setup. The hosts get internet access from a box running as a gateway (NAT). This box can't be touched as my boss won't allow me to do so. I have decided to run a FreeBSD box as a bridge between the NAT and the rest of the hosts of the LAN. Is it possible to limit the amount of Data transferred per month by each of the hosts of the LAN? If yes then how? It would also be nice if I could allow the users to see how much data they have already transferred. Thanks S. 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16 Jan 2005 12:13:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:13:31 -0600 From: John To: Jonathan Chen Message-ID: <20050116121331.A23356@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050115210617.A20158@starfire.mn.org> <20050116041626.GB13042@osiris.chen.org.nz> <41E9F612.5030901@taborandtashell.net> <20050115233404.B20530@starfire.mn.org> <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20050116060442.GA847@osiris.chen.org.nz>; from jonc@chen.org.nz on Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 07:04:42PM +1300 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I need a cuppa... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:13:41 -0000 On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 07:04:42PM +1300, Jonathan Chen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:34:04PM -0600, John wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:05:22PM -0800, Tabor Kelly wrote: > > > Jonathan Chen wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:06:17PM -0600, John wrote: > > > > > > > >>OK, I must be dumb as a rock, because this has to have been discussed > > > >>and documented 16 ways from Sunday, but I've looked in the FAQ, > > > >>and looked in the Handbook, and I've gone through my copy of the > > > >>latest edition of _The Complete FreeBSD_, but I simply do NOT get > > > >>how to get Java support for FreeBSD. I don't need the JDK, unless > > > >>that's the only way to get a viable JRE. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't get a separate 1.4+ JRE for FreeBSD, you need to install the > > > > JDK; the JDK is available as a port in java/jdk14. > > > > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > > But make sure you have linprocfs mounted before you try to build it (and > > > obviously linux emulation). > > > > > > PS- Linux emulation is for bootstrapping purposes. java/jdk14 requires > > > java/linux-sun-jdk14 to compile, afterwards java/linux-sun-jdk14 can be > > > safely removed. > > > > Oh, my word! They don't make this easy, do they??? > > Blame Sun; they don't make it easy for organizations like FreeBSD > to release a binary version of Java. Yes - that was the "they" I meant... -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 18:14:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817F116A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:14:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B1E43D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:14:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE08FFD01F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:14:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EAAEEE.8000100@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:14:06 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Subhro References: <41eaaaf0.5c5fbd82.574c.0014@smtp.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <41eaaaf0.5c5fbd82.574c.0014@smtp.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Data Limiting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:14:09 -0000 Subhro wrote: > I need your suggestion about limiting the data that can be transferred by > each of the hosts on a LAN. Let me explain my setup. The hosts get internet > access from a box running as a gateway (NAT). This box can't be touched as > my boss won't allow me to do so. I have decided to run a FreeBSD box as a > bridge between the NAT and the rest of the hosts of the LAN. Is it possible > to limit the amount of Data transferred per month by each of the hosts of > the LAN? If yes then how? It would also be nice if I could allow the users > to see how much data they have already transferred. Yes, you can consider two options, limiting bandwith - this can be done with pf or doing traffic accounting. pf traffic accounting unfortunately does not support distinction between up and download, I tried once to ask how to do this on the misc@openbsd.org list but got no usefull answer. You can also use ipfilter which has easier accounting IMO. I have done this with ipfilter - the problem is that accounting is not per user but per host, so you must assume that each user uses only the same host(s). Also, you need to register each host - this has the good benefit that you can combine it with a hardware list which is usefull in case of theft. The solution I created was to count download for each host pr day and sum up for the last 7 days, if this exeeded the acceptable limit the host would be blocked untill the sum for the last 7 days were again below the limit. A user could decide to "spend all quota" in one day or distribute evenly. Also, I created a web interface to let the user see the statistics for the last 7 days. I have been redeveloping this, and currently I can't give you anything close to stable :-( but really, it's all about scripting once you have the numbers out. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 18:14:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B686916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:14:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3468843D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:14:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0GIEpp23377; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:14:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:14:51 -0600 From: John To: Timothy Luoma Message-ID: <20050116121451.B23356@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501131608.53735.algould@datawok.com> <20050113161851.B5621@starfire.mn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from lists@tntluoma.com on Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 01:20:58AM -0500 cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:14:54 -0000 On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 01:20:58AM -0500, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2005, at 5:18 PM, John wrote: > > > Yeah - thinking about that - but should I really need SEVERAL Gb to > > support the environment I want? Maybe... > > FWIW, the day after Thanksgiving, BestBuy had a 250GB drive for $80 > after $100 rebate. Even if you can't find a deal that good, your time > is worth money, and if financially possible, even $50 will get you a > nice large hard drive these days and you can completely segregate > Windows onto another drive if you want. > > (Then again, I bought the drive basically on principle because it was > such a good deal, then I ended up buying a new desktop to put it in, so > you never know where these things will lead... but fortunately for me > it led me to finally have a 100% FreeBSD box) > > Sounds like you've since got it working, glad to hear it. Thanks for the info. I bet those weren't LAPTOP hard drives at those prices, though... On my servers, I have a couple of 73Gb (SCSI) drives... -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 18:21:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C838A16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:21:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4841143D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:21:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0GIKuq23409; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:20:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:20:56 -0600 From: John To: Mick Walker Message-ID: <20050116122056.C23356@starfire.mn.org> References: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <1105879001.2431.16.camel@codegurus.org>; from mwalker@codegurus.org on Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 12:36:41PM +0000 cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Set up of Wireless on laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:21:00 -0000 On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 12:36:41PM +0000, Mick Walker wrote: > Hi all, > I have bought myself a wireless network card (Linksys WPC11 VER 3), it > is detected by the kernel and it shows up in ifconfig as wi0. > However I cant seem to get it to work, I have followed the instructions > in the hand book, it works fine if I disable wep on the wireless access > point, however with it enabled it doesn't work at all. > Could someone give me a brief outline of how to get wep working? > If you need any other data, I would be happy to help. You need to issue a command like ifconfig wi0 ssid "whatever it is" wepmode on wepkey 0xsomehexstring then wait about 15 seconds (the docs say 5, but that's too short in my experience) and then dhcpclient wi0 unless you are hardcoding the IP address, in which case, include that on the ifconig line with "inet oct1.oct2.oct3.oct4 netmask oct5.oct6.oct7.oct8" in addition to the other parameters above. I don't know how to use Wep pass phrases, 'cause I don't use them. I think the pass phrases just provides data to munge to generate the keys. I use it - I love it - I'll be glad to help any way I can. -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 18:27:12 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C5016A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:27:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A04C43D45 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:27:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7EBFD01F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:27:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EAB1FD.1030508@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:27:09 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu References: <20050116153513.WNGG29966.viefep20-int.chello.at@hyperduron> In-Reply-To: <20050116153513.WNGG29966.viefep20-int.chello.at@hyperduron> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPF firewalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:27:12 -0000 Kövesdán Gábor wrote: > pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port = 68 keep state > pass in quick proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state keep frags First I see that you have left out "on rl0" in this line. > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port = 42 keep state keep > frags you don't need this. dns uses port 53, both tcp and udp. > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 22 flags S keep state > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 keep state > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 keep state > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 20 keep state > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 keep state use flags S for all tcp rules for your security. > block return-rst in log quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any > block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log quick on rl0 proto udp from any > to any > block in quick on rl0 all > > pass in quick on lo0 all > pass out quick on lo0 all > > Everything seems okay, but the named. Neiher the ISP's nameserver (set by > the dhcp) nor the local nameserver works. BIND 9 wrote this to > /var/log/messages: > > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: starting BIND 9.3.0 -u named -t > /usr/local/named -c /etc/named.conf > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: address > in use > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface re0 failed; > interface ignored > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: address > in use > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; > interface ignored > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: not listening on any interfaces > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: /etc/named.conf:14: couldn't add command > channel 127.0.0.1#953: address in > use > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: > permission denied > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface re0 failed; > interface ignored > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: could not listen on UDP socket: > permission denied > Jan 16 13:59:35 server named[1028]: creating IPv4 interface lo0 failed; > interface ignored > > > The rndc doesn't matter, I'm not going to use it, but the neither named can > listen on the network and the loopback interface. Could You suggest me any > solution for this trouble? Btw, this machine is going to be a web, dns, > mail, etc. server and is being tested on an ordinary cable connection, > that's why I'm using dhcp. First, the named problem does not seem to relate with the firewall ruleset - try take the host off line, flush all rules and see if you can start named or get the same error. For your security, I suggest you use groups to organize the rules and write a default action explicitly, first lines: block in all block out all (no quick here). Then split according to interface, first let lo0 loose: pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all follow with groups for each interface. Groups really helps you tracking down filter problems and staying sane. See the ipf-howto. Also be consistent using "keep state keep frags" and "flags S" everywhere. I see you have tried to setup ftp also in the above ruleset, ftp won't work with this, but it really requires understanding of ftp to get it right. Maybe keep it simple and remove ftp for a start. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 18:38:34 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5EA16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:38:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0BD43D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:38:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF5F6520BA; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:38:31 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Hamad M." Message-ID: <20050116183831.GA86402@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41EA4772.7020104@kuwaitnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41EA4772.7020104@kuwaitnet.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildkernel fails with 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:38:34 -0000 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 01:52:34PM +0300, Hamad M. wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I have been trying to build a custom kernel, but I kept getting this= =20 > error: >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> bktr/bktr > cc -O -pipe -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -include=20 > /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/shabab/opt_global.h -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq=20 > -I@/../include -finline-limit=3D8000 -fno-common =20 > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/shabab -mno-align-long-strings=20 > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls=20 > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes=20 > -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=3Dc99 -c= =20 > /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c: In=20 > function `vbi_read': > /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c:1261:=20 > error: `FNDELAY' undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c:1261:=20 > error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_core.c:1261:=20 > error: for each function it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr. > *** Error code 1 >=20 > Any clue on how to get rid of this? I believed this was fixed already, so try to cvsup again. Kris --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6rSmWry0BWjoQKURAkJSAKCqjsSCvW4JhNEecv1W1Y34mWWrugCgoEiM 7+8oRtJBne/gJbP1ptqT4Kw= =rfgL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 19:01:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08A516A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:01:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.terralink.de (mail.tlink.de [217.9.16.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A7943D2F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:01:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name) Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de (daniel-s-haischt.biz [84.252.66.2]) by mail.terralink.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A85BBD609 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from abyssone.abyssworld.de (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with SMTP id BDA0417480 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from (localhost) [192.168.1.6] by abyssone.abyssworld.de with smtp (geam 0.8.4) for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:03 +0100 Received: from smtp.abyssworld.de ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 00912-01 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:03 +0100 (CET) Received-SPF: none (smtp.abyssworld.de: 192.168.1.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of daniel.stefan.haischt.name) client-ip=192.168.1.6; envelope-from=me@daniel.stefan.haischt.name; helo=[192.168.120.239]; Received: from [192.168.120.239] (smtp.abyssworld.de [192.168.1.6]) by smtp.abyssworld.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3607B1747E for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EAB9F2.8060008@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:01:06 +0100 From: "Daniel S. Haischt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: GNU Anubis v4.0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at abyssworld.de Subject: [INFO] buildworld problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:01:06 -0000 Hello, today I had two problems while/after building world. I did upgrade my FreeBSD system using CVSup against the following brachn tag ... *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5 Issue #1: --------- while compiling the kernel sources, the build process did stop after trying to build the Brooktree TV Tuner drivers. I have to mention that I did try to update a server system which does not have any builtin TV card. Anyway, the problem here was that the following line was missing in the bktr_core.c source file: #include Because of the missing line, FNDELAY was undefined. Issue #2: --------- After successfully building/installing both world and my new custom kernel I had to realize, that /etc/rc.d/ldconfig wasn't executed during the boot process. As a result I was not able to start most of the programs that I did install to /usr/local. After executing /etc/rc.d/ldconfig, anything seems to work as expected. Can you help me with issue #2? Why does the system refuse to execute /etc/rc.d/ldconfig while booting the system? -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l haischt@daniel.stefan.haischt.name From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 19:24:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DA216A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:24:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vmx10.multikabel.net (vmx10.multikabel.net [212.127.254.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E86843D53 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:24:04 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from koendewijs@gmx.net) Received: from vmx30.multikabel.net ([212.127.254.138]) by vmx10.multikabel.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CqG0E-0004ZB-7P for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:58 +0100 Received: from [10.10.10.20] (84-107-21-88.dsl.quicknet.nl [84.107.21.88]) by vmx30.multikabel.net (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j0GJNrM1028633 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:53 +0100 Message-ID: <41EABF33.1040801@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:31 +0100 From: koen de wijs User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MultiKabel-MailScanner-Information: Please contact helpdesk@quicknet.nl for more information X-MultiKabel-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MultiKabel-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MultiKabel-MX-MailScanner-Information: Please contact helpdesk@quicknet.nl for more information X-MultiKabel-MX-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MultiKabel-MX-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: koendewijs@gmx.net Subject: programming languages and visual programming under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:24:05 -0000 Hallo, I'm just new wtih unix and FreeBSD and I have a question about programming languages, I want to learn some of them but don't know where to start. I heard that C is the most powerfull language under unix and almost the complete system is written under it. You can do everything with it. Where is a good toturial? Can you read and write directly with the printer port or does the kernell block that?? I got a programm from someone that putted some assmebler in his c programm to adress the printer port. And where can I find an overview of all the *.h files that you can use under FreeBSD Are there any visual programming tools under FreeBSD, like click and drag like microsoft visual c? The only options that I found where: GTK, KDE libs and Gnome libs or directly tlak with the x server. The other languages that I know are: Perl, I could only find that it is especially for tasks for your system and that it's based on C Shell scripts, for tasks for your systems and simple programms Python. What are the advantages of these languages above C and are there more programming languages under FreeBSD? I don't want to start a war, where everybody says "What I'm doing is best", like microsoft! I just want to know what are the common advantages of those languages. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 19:33:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952B016A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:33:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from viefep11-int.chello.at (viefep11-int.chello.at [213.46.255.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E9743D46 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:33:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu) Received: from hyperduron ([80.99.33.169]) by viefep11-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with ESMTP id <20050116193347.WMON10341.viefep11-int.chello.at@hyperduron>; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:33:47 +0100 From: "=?iso-8859-2?B?S/Z2ZXNk4W4gR+Fib3I=?=" To: "'Erik Norgaard'" Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:34:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Thread-Index: AcT7+QFFRyZmAzLlSNOuZ9JpnGwlnwABwY1g In-Reply-To: <41EAB1FD.1030508@locolomo.org> Message-Id: <20050116193347.WMON10341.viefep11-int.chello.at@hyperduron> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: IPF firewalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:33:50 -0000 Hello, Thanks for your answer, I've modified my rules as You suggested, but I haven't made groups yet. Thus the new ruleset is: # I don't want to filter outgoing packets pass out quick all # The incoming packets for dhcp, dns, ssh, mail, ftp, www pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 68 keep state = keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port =3D 53 keep state = keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 53 flags S keep = state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 22 flags S keep = state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 25 flags S keep = state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 21 flags S keep = state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 20 flags S keep = state keep frags pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port =3D 80 flags S keep = state keep frags # Some advanced stuff - will be set later #block return-rst in log quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any #block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log quick on rl0 proto udp from = any to any #block in quick on rl0 all # Allow everything for the loopback interface pass in quick on lo0 all pass out quick on lo0 all I ran the ipf -Fa && ipf -f /etc/ipf.rules2 command (ipf.rules2 is this ruleset) via ssh, but then my connection closed, and I was unable to reconnect via ssh until flushing the rules and loading this ruleset: pass in all pass out all Best wishes, G=E1bor K=F6vesd=E1n From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 19:40:50 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E055716A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:40:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556D043D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:40:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b220.otenet.gr [212.205.244.228]) j0GJeiAH007379; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:40:45 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0GJej7N007355; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:40:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0GJej1U007354; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:40:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:40:44 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: koen de wijs Message-ID: <20050116194044.GA6242@gothmog.gr> References: <41EABF33.1040801@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41EABF33.1040801@gmx.net> cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: programming languages and visual programming under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:40:51 -0000 On 2005-01-16 20:23, koen de wijs wrote: > I heard that C is the most powerfull language under unix and almost > the complete system is written under it. You can do everything with > it. Where is a good toturial? Many good C resources are available online at: http://www.eskimo.com/%7Escs/C-faq/top.html You can also find some references for printed books there. The C language is not difficult to start using, but there _are_ some finer points that newcomers can grasp more easily after reading a few printed books. > Can you read and write directly with the printer port or does the > kernell block that? Accessing the hardware directly is one of the most unportable things you can do with C and UNIX. You should try using the proper device file instead, if possible. For printers that would be /dev/lpt0, /dev/lpt1, etc. > I got a programm from someone that putted some assmebler in his c > programm to adress the printer port. Very unportable, as I said above. Writing a C program that uses fopen() or open() on the /dev/lpt0 file (or any other lpt device), would be much preferable. > And where can I find an overview of all the *.h files that you can > use under FreeBSD The manpages that define the relevant APIs are usually your best bet. Then, when you are experienced enough with C you may start reading the *.h files under /usr/include directly. > Are there any visual programming tools under FreeBSD, like click and > drag like microsoft visual c? The only options that I found where: > GTK, KDE libs and Gnome libs or directly tlak with the x server. I'm sure there are some. A lot of people like using IDEs like KDevelop or Eclipse. The good thing about the compilers and other tools of FreeBSD is that you don't *have* to use an IDE though. A good editor is usually all one needs. This is why many people prefer to stay away from IDEs altogether and use vim or Emacs to edit their programs instead. > The other languages that I know are: Perl, I could only find that it > is especially for tasks for your system and that it's based on C Shell > scripts, for tasks for your systems and simple programms Python. > > What are the advantages of these languages above C and are there more > programming languages under FreeBSD? This is a very difficult question to answer without getting you to learn all the relevant languages first. Every language has its own merits, I guess. You can learn as many of them as you like, or you can pick 2-3 of them and stick with them. The choise is yours to make... - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 19:41:18 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE12416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:41:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E03843D1D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:41:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 65756 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 19:41:16 -0000 Received: from batv-01-042.dialup.netins.net (HELO Htebazile.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.43) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 19:41:16 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20050116134019.053732b0@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:40:36 -0600 To: koen de wijs From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <41EABF33.1040801@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: programming languages and visual programming under FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:41:18 -0000 At 13:23 1/16/2005, koen de wijs wrote: > >Are there any visual programming tools under FreeBSD, like click and=20 >drag like microsoft visual c? http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/ Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 20:14:17 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEBA16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:14:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from galilee.polands.org (CPE-24-208-53-189.new.rr.com [24.208.53.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6D643D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:14:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (jericho.polands.org [172.16.1.35]) by galilee.polands.org (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0GKEFRZ035729 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:14:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@polands.org) Received: from jericho.polands.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0GKEEnU081231 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:14:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp@jericho.polands.org) Received: (from djp@localhost) by jericho.polands.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0GKEEFT081230 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:14:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from djp) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:14:14 -0600 From: Doug Poland To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050116201414.GA76014@polands.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Subject: gmirror: replacing failed disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:14:17 -0000 Hello, I've got a bootable gmirror running on identical SATA drives on 5.3-STABLE. The technique I've used to build the gmirror can be found on http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/gmirror, under the heading "GEOM mirror Approach 2: Single Slice, Preferred, More Flexible". Now I'd like to experiment with replacing a "failed" drive. This particular box has hot-swappable drives, so all I need to do is pull a drive out while the box is running. The man page states: One disk failed. Replace it with a brand new one: gmirror forget data gmirror insert data da1 (My system has a provider gm0s1 with ad4 and ad6 as consumers, so I'll use those device names) Simulate ad4 failing: pull the drive put the drive back in, reboot if necessary to detect drive # gmirror forget gm0s1 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 # size=`fdisk ad6 | grep ', size ' | head -1 | sed -e 's;^.*size \([0-9]*\).*$;\1;'` (echo "p 1 165 63 $size"; echo "a 1") | fdisk -v -B -f- -i /dev/ad4 OR # fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4 # gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4s1 (Now wait two hours for the drives synchronize) That should work, yes? How does gmirror know about /dev/ad4s1 if that drive was previously unformatted or brand new? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 20:20:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3530916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:20:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web26503.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web26503.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.176.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79E6643D2F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:20:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdbod@yahoo.co.uk) Received: (qmail 82607 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jan 2005 20:20:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20050116202011.82605.qmail@web26503.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.55.150.153] by web26503.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:20:11 GMT Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:20:11 +0000 (GMT) From: BSD Bod To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: ipnat port forwarding froblem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:20:13 -0000 Hi All, I have an ADSL router with some very basic Firewall connecting my internal network to the internet. I now want to give myself greater flexibility and protection and so I have been attempting to set a 3 homed host running a firewall with nat. This host needs to route packets between 2 further networks, 1 as a dmz and the other as a protected network, layout as follows: Internet | ----------- --------------| Router |-------------- ----------- 192.168.0.1 Min protected Net | ------------ 192.168.0.2 - dc0 --------------| Firewall |------------- 192.168.1.2 - dc1 ------------ 192.168.2.2 - rl0 DMZ Net | Protected Net | I have tried using both ipfilter+ipnat and pf, and even tried OpenBSD, but always have the same problem that forwarding from the protected net and the dmz net to the internet fails (no route to host). My current configuration is using ipfilter+ipnat on FreeBSD 5.3 The firewall can reach the internet, dmz and protected net ok and sysctl -a reveals that net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 and also redirect=1. My ipnat rules are as folows: map dc0 192.168.2.0/24 -> 192.168.0.2/32 portmap tcp/udp 10000:20000 map dc0 192.168.2.0/24 -> 192.168.0.2/32 map dc0 192.168.1.0/24 -> 192.168.0.2/32 portmap tcp/udp 20001:40000 map dc0 192.168.1.0/24 -> 192.168.0.2/32 In order to get this working I have my internal firewall open, so that it does not cause an issue. For now I just want to get this working using ipfilter+ipnat and when I know what the problem is I will try implementing it using pf. In the past I have had a firewall connecting to a ADSL modem using PPPoA running ipfw and natd on FreeBSD 4.8, but this is a different configuration. I am completely out of ideas, so all are welcome. Thanks in advance. Tim Preece. ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 20:23:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E440516A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cheyenne.wixb.com (cheyenne.wixb.com [65.43.82.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D3543D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116142101.00bfef60@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:23:54 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "J.D. Bronson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: setup of Bind9 on 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:56 -0000 I have cvs'd and built world and now I want to use the native bind9 to run DNS. I am very familiar with chrooting named, but for some reason I cannot get this going.... If I use ISC's bind 9 built from scratch, it will chroot just fine. Does anyone have a sample named.conf for chrooting that shows loading of 1 zone and the hints file? (technically not needed with bind9, but doesnt hurt) In addition, the dir structure of /var/named would be nice to see. normally I setup chroot jail for named like this: /var/named: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 Aug 16 12:04 dev drwxr-xr-x 2 root named 512 Aug 16 12:04 etc drwxrwx--- 2 root named 512 Sep 1 2003 log drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 Jan 16 10:02 master drwxrwx--- 2 root named 512 Jan 16 10:04 run drwxrwxr-x 2 root named 1024 Dec 30 19:40 slave drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 Apr 7 2004 standard this approach does not seem to work with using STOCK named.... any help will be appreciated! -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 20:23:56 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B493B16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from heineken.flexi-surf.co.uk (heineken.flexi-surf.co.uk [62.41.128.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B75543D39 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nbco@screaming.net) Received: from [192.168.2.3] ([62.55.107.164])j0GIKAS23041; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:20:11 GMT From: nbco To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lahaye@romeo.snu.ac.kr; Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:43 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050116141521.B91CD43D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20050116141521.B91CD43D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501162023.43840.nbco@screaming.net> Subject: Re: Realplayer cannot find libraries, after upgrade from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: nbco@screaming.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:23:56 -0000 On Sunday 16 January 2005 14:15, Rob Lahaye wrote: > Rob Lahaye wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've just upgraded all my software from recent ports. > > Now realplayer (10.0.2_1) doesn't run anymore, because it cannot > > find its libraries: > > > > $ ldd /usr/local/lib/RealPlayer/realplay.bin | grep "not found" > > libX11.so.6 => not found > > libXrandr.so.2 => not found > > libXi.so.6 => not found > > libXext.so.6 => not found > > libXft.so.2 => not found > > libXrender.so.1 => not found > > libX11.so.6 => not found > > libXft.so.2 => not found > > libXrender.so.1 => not found > > libX11.so.6 => not found > > $ ls /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 > > /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 > > Meanwhile I've solved the problem with a: > > # portupgrade -frRv linux-realplayer-10.0.2_1 Hi, It appears as though after the recent ports/emulators/linux_base version bump ( see ports/UPDATING), that the Linux X11 libraries are not appearing in /usr/compat/linux/etc/ld.so.cache. realplayer was not the only affected port - acroread was also affected; both are linux binaries which run under emulation. Another fix is to do the following: 1) Add the following line to /usr/compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf: /usr/X11R6/lib 2) Re-run /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig. This will cause the runtime ELF linker cache for the Linuxolator to be regenerated with the location of the Linux X11 libraries added to the search path, and thus the libraries should then appear in the cache. You should then be able to run acroread, realplayer etc. without further problems, even after a reboot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 20:45:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BAA16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:45:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1B643D2D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:45:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0E21B51813; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:44:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:44:56 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Daniel S. Haischt" Message-ID: <20050116204456.GA18002@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <41EAB9F2.8060008@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41EAB9F2.8060008@daniel.stefan.haischt.name> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [INFO] buildworld problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:45:00 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 08:01:06PM +0100, Daniel S. Haischt wrote: > Anyway, the problem here was that the following > line was missing in the bktr_core.c source file: >=20 > #include >=20 > Because of the missing line, FNDELAY was undefined. At least this one, and possibly the other, were already resolved. cvsup and retry. Kris --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6tJIWry0BWjoQKURAtBZAKComITvOOMSWlWRFfI2ZFvzvl6QPgCg8TD4 Y9vbeSV0F8em8TZhkyvqtvw= =ZlBl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 20:45:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378C916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:45:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (CPE0050040655c8-CM00111ae02aac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [69.199.47.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5A143D1F for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:45:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6B02651813; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:45:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:45:46 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: nbco Message-ID: <20050116204546.GB18002@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20050116141521.B91CD43D1D@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <200501162023.43840.nbco@screaming.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200501162023.43840.nbco@screaming.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: lahaye@romeo.snu.ac.kr Subject: Re: Realplayer cannot find libraries, after upgrade from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:45:47 -0000 --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 08:23:43PM +0000, nbco wrote: > It appears as though after the recent ports/emulators/linux_base version= =20 > bump ( see ports/UPDATING), that the Linux X11 libraries are not=20 > appearing in /usr/compat/linux/etc/ld.so.cache. Please report this to the maintainer (freebsd-emulation@), with as much supporting information as you can. Kris --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6tJ6Wry0BWjoQKURAl9PAJ9r6XRDSS8TUs4xs4SF4S6FjlzV/ACg85yS ZUgnY9lYZOCvUDiKcKTcHds= =eWWO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0ntfKIWw70PvrIHh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 21:00:29 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910DA16A4D0 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:00:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from top.daemonsecurity.com (FW-182-254.go.retevision.es [62.174.254.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F4943D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:00:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from [192.168.0.32] (charm.daemonsecurity.com [192.168.0.32]) by top.daemonsecurity.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B181FD01F; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:00:27 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41EAD5E8.9060100@locolomo.org> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:00:24 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20041114 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, da, it, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gabor.kovesdan@freemail.hu References: <20050116193347.WMON10341.viefep11-int.chello.at@hyperduron> In-Reply-To: <20050116193347.WMON10341.viefep11-int.chello.at@hyperduron> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPF firewalling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:00:29 -0000 Kövesdán Gábor wrote: > Thanks for your answer, I've modified my rules as You suggested, but I > haven't made groups yet. Thus the new ruleset is: But did you resolve the named problem? > # I don't want to filter outgoing packets > pass out quick all > > # The incoming packets for dhcp, dns, ssh, mail, ftp, www > pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port = 68 keep state keep > frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state keep > frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 53 flags S keep state > keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 22 flags S keep state > keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 flags S keep state > keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 21 flags S keep state > keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 20 flags S keep state > keep frags > pass in quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any port = 80 flags S keep state > keep frags > > # Some advanced stuff - will be set later > #block return-rst in log quick on rl0 proto tcp from any to any > #block return-icmp-as-dest(port-unr) in log quick on rl0 proto udp from any > to any > #block in quick on rl0 all > > # Allow everything for the loopback interface > pass in quick on lo0 all > pass out quick on lo0 all Now reading this - maybe you left out the default action at the top of the ruleset? - I only see pass rules and unless you compiled your kernel with default block, then default is pass, leaving your host with no effective firewall at all. > I ran the ipf -Fa && ipf -f /etc/ipf.rules2 command (ipf.rules2 is this > ruleset) via ssh, but then my connection closed, and I was unable to > reconnect via ssh until flushing the rules and loading this ruleset: > pass in all > pass out all Should suffice just to flush the rules, unless you compile your kernel with default block. Whatever default is, it is always a good idea for clarity to include a catch all rule. Also, make sure to add "log" and start ipmon, when something falls through or is blocked for other reasons, you have a log entry stating which rule blocked so you can debug your ruleset. - I see I left it out in the default rules I suggested, these rules should go at top of the file: block out log all block in log all Whatever falls through your ruleset will be logged so you can analyse it. When you flush your rulesets, the state table is not flushed, so you shouldn't loose your connection. Also, I recommend you reading rules into the inactive ruletable first. Then swap. This way you make sure your rules does not contain typos and you don't leave your firewall/host vulnerable. # ipf -IFa && ipf -I -f && ipf -s && sleep 60 && ipf -s lets you test the new ruleset 60 seconds, should you loose connection. If things work then # ipf -Ifa && ipf -I -f && ipf -s && ipf -IFa Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 21:47:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC1416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:47:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dexter.starfire.mn.org (starfire.skypoint.net [66.93.17.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8167943D31 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:47:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@dexter.starfire.mn.org) Received: (from john@localhost) by dexter.starfire.mn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id j0GLlQL24096; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:47:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from john) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:47:26 -0600 From: John To: Joshua Tinnin Message-ID: <20050116154726.A24033@starfire.mn.org> References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501152147.13994.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <20050115235739.A20785@starfire.mn.org> <200501152335.49531.krinklyfig@spymac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200501152335.49531.krinklyfig@spymac.com>; from krinklyfig@spymac.com on Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:35:49PM -0800 cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:47:32 -0000 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:35:49PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > On Saturday 15 January 2005 09:57 pm, John wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > > On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John > wrote: > > > > Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror. On some web > > > > sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just > > > > is GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page. The CPU > > > > isn't busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is > > > > waiting for. It's so bad, it stretches credibility. Then, as I > > > > said, on other web sites, it's just fine. Sometimes is stops > > > > with 94% loaded and just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it > > > > pauses with like "12 out of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it > > > > pauses just as soon as it resolves the new URL and connects to > > > > the server. VERY odd. > > > > > > Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some > > > images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this > > > happens because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm > > > not entirely > > > > Thanks for your response, Joshua! > > > > Well, your answer is very reasonable given the information I > > supplied, but it is not what's happening. I can have my Windoze > > work-owned laptop next to it on the table, and it will load up > > these pages in a snap. Konqueror isn't getting any data - it sits > > there with nothing happening - no data coming across the network. > > You may have an issue with DNS. You should have DNS servers listed in > your /etc/resolv.conf, like this: > > nameserver 888.888.888.888 Well, I have a local-caching DNS server running on my gateway/NAT/ firewall FreeBSD system. DHCP is correctly populating /etc/resolv.conf with the correct value. SOME web sites work great, others show this very bawky behaivor. A Windows laptop running on the same network referring to the same local DNS server has no such problem. I can set them up side-by-side, and the results are deterministic and predictable. I've seen DNS problems cause some pretty bizarre behaviors, so I hate to dismiss this out-of-hand, but I think these facts argue against a DNS configuration issue, but I could easily be missing something. > (the number is an example - you should use your ISP's nameserver or your > internal one, if you've set it up) Using the internal one, as noted above, same as the Windows laptop uses. > Is this also an issue with other browsers or network software? If you > haven't done so already, you should try Firefox or Opera and see if > Konqueror is the problem. Yes - I will load them up and try them. > > > sure about that, but the upshot is that the browser doesn't know > > > what the whole page will look like until an image downloads, as > > > there are often page elements which depend on the placement of > > > other elements to determine their own placement. However, AFAIK > > > this is also considered a bug, because Konqueror doesn't handle > > > this issue gracefully, so (again AFAIR) this is something that the > > > KDE project is working to correct. I seem to remember something > > > about this waiting until KDE version 4, however. I don't speak for > > > them, so apologies if this isn't entirely correct. > > > > > > > So - now back to where things were before my fatal load of Win > > > > 98. 1) Figure out Sound FreeBSD > > > > 2) Figure out browers and Plugins for FreeBSD > > > > 3) Try to get some of apm/acpi working > > > > 4) Figure out WHY the system won't recognize (not even IDENTIFY) > > > > a CD in my laptop multi-bay > > > > > > Have you tried mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom > > > > Oh, yeah - it's not in dmesgs. 4.x used to at least have an > > atapi-slave ID timeout, but this doesn't even do that - the kernel > > just pauses and goes on without any message. > > > > It's pretty bizarre - 4.x would boot and actually INSTALL from the > > CD, but when you booted from the hard drive, I'd get the ID timeout > > message. 5.x boots from the CD, but then can't even install from it. > > I boot the CD, then eject it, bring it to another system, and > > NFS mount it to complete the installation. Kludgy, but it works. > > OK when I'm at home with the other systems, but not much good > > when I'm traveling with the laptop... ;) > > That's strange. It appears to mount the CD and then unmount it, though > I'm not sure. Do you have the correct drivers for your CD? > > > > You've probably been through that, but can't hurt to mention it. > > > > I appreciate thoroughness. > > > > > BTW, most of this stuff is covered extensively in the handbook, but > > > unfortunately I've never had much luck with ACPI, mostly due to my > > > hardware. > > > > Yup - I was just making a little "to do" list, in case anyone had > > any caveats to yell out. I've already heard from the folks on > > the ACPI list - I have some "to do's" to try. > > Good luck. There be dragons. Yeah... you got that right! -- John Lind john@starfire.MN.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 22:15:05 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC7416A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:15:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at (chello084114137224.1.15.vie.surfer.at [84.114.137.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA1FB43D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:15:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: (qmail 4278 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 22:15:02 -0000 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net (192.168.123.10) by ns.matrix.net with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 22:15:02 -0000 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:14:48 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20050116201414.GA76014@polands.org> In-Reply-To: <20050116201414.GA76014@polands.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501162315.01954.4711@chello.at> Subject: Re: gmirror: replacing failed disks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:15:05 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 16 January 2005 21:14, Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, > > I've got a bootable gmirror running on identical SATA drives on > 5.3-STABLE. The technique I've used to build the gmirror can be found > on http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/gmirror, under the heading "GEOM > mirror Approach 2: Single Slice, Preferred, More Flexible". Now I'd > like to experiment with replacing a "failed" drive. This particular box > has hot-swappable drives, so all I need to do is pull a drive out while > the box is running. > > The man page states: > > One disk failed. Replace it with a brand new one: > > gmirror forget data > gmirror insert data da1 > > (My system has a provider gm0s1 with ad4 and ad6 as consumers, so I'll > use those device names) > > Simulate ad4 failing: > > pull the drive > put the drive back in, reboot if necessary to detect drive After you put the drive in, you can try to attach or reinit the controller channel where it's connected to with the command 'atacontrol'. If you put the same drive in, and you haven't zeroed the bootblocks and the slicetable (on ad4) geom will recognice that the missing disk has been re-attached and will start rebuilding. If you want to simulate insertion of a blank disk, run the 'gmirror forget' command before you re-attach disk ad4. Then dd the first few blocks and the last sector of the old slice, where the gmirror metadata are stored. You can do this by 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=1 skip=n', where n=number of sectors to be skipped. In your case it's better, if you check where the metadata are stored. Maybe they are stored at the end of your disk. I think of this because of your gmirror list output, where ad4 and ad6 are listed as consumers. > # gmirror forget gm0s1 > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79 You are missing the "&&" operator here. > # size=`fdisk ad6 | grep ', size ' | head -1 | sed -e 's;^.*size > \([0-9]*\).*$;\1;'` && (echo "p 1 165 63 $size"; echo "a 1") | fdisk -v -B ^^ > -f- -i /dev/ad4 > OR > # fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4 > > # gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4s1 > > (Now wait two hours for the drives synchronize) > > That should work, yes? How does gmirror know about /dev/ad4s1 if that > drive was previously unformatted or brand new? That should work, if you create the slice with 'fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4', but on the other hand, it would be very interresting, if gmirror really handles the consumers as they are displayed by your gmirror list command. I would blank disk ad4 (as I described above) and see what happens when you issue the command 'gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4'. Maybe gmirror handles drives with one slice that covers the whole drive, as disks (instead of slices)? I would give it a try. (If you try this, please could you post or pm me the 'gmirror list' output? Thank you!) Cheers, ch - -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFB6udl09WjGjvKU74RAsVAAJ4sDZKZ8qZqxVf927yQXBxK7HO/ZwCfdWnL OWuuqs6UMMjwaK/1E9Ewm/o= =0IXG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 22:16:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961F916A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:16:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from grog.secure-computing.net (grog.secure-computing.net [63.228.14.241]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CA743D41 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:16:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) Received: from [192.168.1.102] (c-66-41-157-209.mn.client2.attbi.com [66.41.157.209]) (authenticated bits=0)j0GMGMRw069204; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:16:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ecrist@secure-computing.net) In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116111733.00c20ed8@cheyenne.wixb.com> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116105704.00c08218@cheyenne.wixb.com> <025001c4fbef$01942ca0$92a7cb52@rekon> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116111733.00c20ed8@cheyenne.wixb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-4-905070250" Message-Id: <4EBE8096-680C-11D9-8D05-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric F Crist Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:16:45 -0600 To: "J.D. Bronson" X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on grog.secure-computing.net cc: Reko Turja cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:16:57 -0000 --Apple-Mail-4-905070250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Jan 16, 2005, at 11:18 AM, J.D. Bronson wrote: > At 11:15 AM 1/16/2005, you wrote: >> See the developers hanbook from the FreeBSD website: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ >> Section III chapter 11. FreBSD is quite well documented once you know >> where to find the information - and most of it can be found in the >> FreeBSD website. >> >> By the way did you only update the kernel, or did you do >> buildworld/installworld as well? >> >> -Reko > > for the moment, I only did the kernel. I dont want to spend alot of > time on this if its still unstable. > > Looks like as long as I add DDB to the kernel and make it, I should > get some crash dump ? It's always a good idea to upgrade the entire system, kernel ad userland. I would recommend doing so and see where you go from there. _______________________________________________________ Eric F Crist "I am so smart, S.M.R.T!" Secure Computing Networks -Homer J Simpson --Apple-Mail-4-905070250 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkHq580ACgkQRAAY9knOW+rwbACdEI27w8iqDfU/NmMVy5nLsuV8 LrAAn1HgHnHiimRHbZpC3G9UFuTZo9m0 =JPG8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-4-905070250-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 22:30:22 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BCE16A4D0 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:30:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cheyenne.wixb.com (cheyenne.wixb.com [65.43.82.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4261D43D48 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:30:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jbronson@wixb.com) Organization: Aurora Health Care, Milwaukee WI USA Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116162955.00c1d1b0@cheyenne.wixb.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:30:20 -0600 To: Eric F Crist From: "J.D. Bronson" In-Reply-To: <4EBE8096-680C-11D9-8D05-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20050116103645.00becec8@cheyenne.wixb.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116105704.00c08218@cheyenne.wixb.com> <025001c4fbef$01942ca0$92a7cb52@rekon> <6.2.0.14.2.20050116111733.00c20ed8@cheyenne.wixb.com> <4EBE8096-680C-11D9-8D05-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed cc: Reko Turja cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help logging a crash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:30:22 -0000 At 04:16 PM 1/16/2005, Eric F Crist wrote: >It's always a good idea to upgrade the entire system, kernel ad >userland. I would recommend doing so and see where you go from there. Yes...I did this now.....it was easy and only took an 1hr on a P4-3.06 :) -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: jd@aurora.org // Pager: 414.314.8282 AIM:lonebanditusa // MSN:lonebanditusa@msn.com // Yahoo:lonebanditusa From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 16 22:41:01 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED7E16A4CE for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:41:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from epz01.nefonline.de (epz01.nefonline.de [212.204.66.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB68A43D2D for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:40:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from J.Keil@gmx.de) Received: from sillium.dyndns.org (DSL01.83.171.151.200.NEFkom.net [83.171.151.200]) by epz01.nefonline.de (NEFkom Mailservice) with SMTP id j0GMevX18241 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:40:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 19257 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2005 22:40:57 -0000 Received: from semeon.lokal.lan (HELO ?192.168.1.7?) (192.168.1.7) by columbus.lokal.lan with SMTP; 16 Jan 2005 22:40:57 -0000 Message-ID: <41EAED79.8080504@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:40:57 +0100 From: Jochen Keil User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: different behaviour between 4.x and 5.x (ping response/disk io) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:41:01 -0000 Hi all. I got a dual Piii 800 box here with these specifications: -Supermicro 370DL3 Mainboard -Adaptec aic7892 Ultra160 SCSI adapter (onboard) -2x 256MB Micron ECC RAM (tested with memtest) -2x IBM IC35L036UWDY10-0 (SCSI Drives, only one connected for testing) -LG GSA-4040B (connected via onboard IDE Controller) (a few IDE drives which weren't connected für testing) Full dmesg output is attached to the end of this email. Now to the description of my problem. I tested various Operating systems on this box, FreeBSD 5.3, NetBSD 2.0, FreeBSD 4.11 and an elder version of the Knoppix (Linux 2.4) CD. Every installation except FreeBSD 4.11 showed almost the same behaviour when doing the following test. First i ran iozone on the SCSI drive. While the benchmark was performed i issued a ping to another host in the network. The result drove me insane. Wether with the onboard fxp0 either the em0 i was able to get a "stable" ping response time which looks like that: i get a bunch (~20-30, depends on disk io) of ping response times around 0.2ms and then there are some really long response times above 1ms (the longest took about 90ms). However FreeBSD 4.x seems to be the only exception to this as it gives me over a complete iozone test only three pings with a response time around 1ms. The other ping times are mostly around 0.2ms with some seldom peaks at 0.5-0.6ms. Due to this behaviour i figured out that this cannot be the fault of the hardware, at least i hope so. A hint from a NetBSD Mailing List pointed me to have a look at the interrupts. On disk IO the interrupt rate on ahc0 is going up to around 300/s. But this is all the same for FreeBSD 4.x and 5.x (i used vmstat -i for that). There also seems to be no difference between using SMP and a single CPU kernel (Information based on FreeBSD 5.3 and NetBSD 2.0 tests as i didn't test this with FreeBSD 4.11 yet). Now i am really puzzled because i cannot understand why 4.x behaves relatively good compared to 5.x on this specific issue. Is there a good explanation or does one have to investigate this further? The NetBSD Mailing List i'm talking about can be found here: http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2005/01/. (Discussion starts on 05.01.2005: High Load / bad response times). I'm looking forward to your answers and with kind regards, Jochen Keil Dmesg from 4.11: FreeBSD 4.11-RC2 #0: Sun Jan 2 09:47:04 GMT 2005 root@perseus.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Intel Pentium III (799.62-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x683 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 536805376 (524224K bytes) config> di pcic0 config> di psm0 config> di sio1 config> di sio0 config> di ppc0 config> di fdc0 config> di bt0 config> di ata1 config> di aic0 config> di aha0 config> di adv0 config> q avail memory = 516833280 (504720K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0556000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc055609c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00f5230 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at 3.0 irq 11 fxp0: port 0xd800-0xd83f mem 0xfe800000-0xfe8fffff,0xfe9ef000-0xfe9effff irq 9 at device 6.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:30:48:21:74:63 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xfeaff000-0xfeafffff irq 10 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib1: on motherboard pci1: on pcib1 ahc0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebff000-0xfebfffff irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci1 aic7892: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs orm0: