Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:44:37 -0400 From: Mikel <mikel@ocsinternet.com> To: Chris Phillips <chris@selkie.org> Cc: dotslash <dotslash@linif.org>, Matthew Emmerton <matt@gsicomp.on.ca>, Matt Barton <matt@fear.net>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD w 3C905 cannot connect to Cisco 3524XL switch Message-ID: <3AE977C5.33754CE7@ocsinternet.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0104251445160.7719-100000@shell.bchosting.com>
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Hi Chris,
Thanks for this info. Just curious if you've used the ipsec option of the card
and how well it works with fBSD....
Thanks,
Mikel
Chris Phillips wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, dotslash wrote:
>
> > > > On 4/24/01 10:28 PM, "Chris Phillips" <chris@selkie.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I would have to agree with Matthew. I have about 80 boxes sitting
> > > behind a
> > > > > 3524XL-EN all using Intel cards and have never had a problem. I avoid
> > > most
> > > > > other cards, but 3COM cards I avoid like the plague.
> > > >
> > > > What are your reasons for avoiding 3Com cards? I'm just curious to
> > know.
> > > >
> > > > In my past experience, 3Com cards seem to be very common, in both
> > servers
> > > > and workstations.
> > >
> > > Yes, but common != { reliable, co-operative }.
> > >
> >
> > i'm wondering what's the reason why. i've used 3com nics for the past 10
> > years and my experience with them are reliable. for my *nix boxes here i've
> > been using the vortex nics and they work fine.
> >
> > i think the real problem here (in this thread) is your cisco router. the
> > default config of the ports for cisco are the cause of our problems so we
> > have to reconfigure them (don't have the details right now).
>
> I've had experiences with certain 3COM revisions not being able to talk to
> each other or a 3COM switch. From memory (this was a couple years
> ago) the 905b wouldn't talk to the 905a or 905c but would talk to each
> other fine. Inconsistancies are not good and make an unsuspecting
> contractor look bad, especially when they are billing by the hour and take
> an additional four hours to diagnose the problem, get new cards and
> everything working. During that incident I replaced the 3COMs with the
> much cheaper D-Link cards and to this day those boxes are still using them
> while I donated the 3COM cards to an local UNIX users group. Poor them.
>
> The Intel 10/100 cards are pound for pound the best product in their
> class. They are only about $35 now. You can pick up the IPsec cards for
> about $5 more. I've never had a problem with any of them.
>
> It should be noted as well, that the Intel cards are even a couple bucks
> cheaper than the 3COM cards, at least where I am anyway. I would buy
> Intel cards even if they were $40 more expensive.
>
> If you are looking to save a few dollars, check out this URL.
>
> http://www.intel.com//network/offers/testdrive_adapter.htm
>
> Great prices.
>
> -Chris Phillips
>
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