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Date:      Mon, 11 Sep 2006 05:32:40 -0400
From:      Bill Moran <>
To:        Bob Walker <>
Subject:   Re: Newbie Experience
Message-ID:  <>
In-Reply-To: <000001c6d520$292f6700$0c01a8c0@DELL8400>
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Bob Walker <> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have always wanted to better understand Unix, and so I finally made the
> decision to switch some of my office PCs over to either a Unix or Linux
> system. With office suites like OpenOffice, I felt that I would be able to
> transition away from Windows with minimal disruption to my business. So, I
> downloaded the .iso images from FreeBSD, Suse, and Fedora. I initially
> favored FreeBSD, since it seemed to have the closest lineage to "pure" Unix,
> and that was important to me, but after many, many attempts to install both
> the OS and Gnome desktop environment, I threw up my hands.

I'm confused.  What compelled you to torture yourself, _then_ complain
about it to a list that's sole purpose in existing is to help prevent
you from torturing yourself?

If you had posted many questions and got no answers, I could understand
throwing up your hands.  As it stands, you might want to use those hands
to smack yourself for making your life more difficult than it needs to

If you have problems, ask on the list at the time the problem occurs.
Complaining after the fact (as you're doing) accomplishes nothing.

While I can't speak for the project "officially", I would wager to say:
1) We know our installation is not as pretty and easy as others, and
2) We don't care.

We are a community.  We're not Microsoft.  We're not interested in
driving users away by saying "here's everything you need, don't bother
us again."  Our limited resources are focused on developing the really
important parts of the system.  While few would complain if the
install process were made easier, nobody has the time to work on it.
Become part of the community and ask questions when you have trouble.
Find a local user's group.  But please, please don't complain about the
OS not working right when you use it wrong.  The FreeBSD community is
an integral part of the OS.  Not making use of the FreeBSD community
and then complaining that the OS is difficult to use would be like not
using a mouse then complaining that MS Windows is hard to use.

Bill Moran

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have
for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

	Benjamin Franklin

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