Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 08:50:22 -0400 From: Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> To: Chris Knipe <savage@savage.za.org> Cc: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>, FreeBSD - <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Mailing List Etiquette was freebsd vs. netbsd Message-ID: <CAGBxaX=AG7gi_2B0srPdJ6hGxaO%2B61APREHOL8WmUKvO8s%2Bt%2Bg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CA%2B4TWFvf7w=4djQfWLtXhqmip0Rb72Js6BbOW=F_gUkufXuQFw@mail.gmail.com> References: <20200613154409.GA89618@neutralgood.org> <13115.1592302784@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <20200616071153.00006f4d@seibercom.net> <CA%2B4TWFuWN1BV=FftC1xNCYRgqwX%2BCb=wMg_L9MxFHx17Nzjm5Q@mail.gmail.com> <20200616075548.000066f1@seibercom.net> <20200616140416.bd7b8bf2.freebsd@edvax.de> <CA%2B4TWFtgaMkJWAOuvEpSg2TOo2hrG-P7EHJUigCQwgQw3iXtWQ@mail.gmail.com> <20200616142043.7d599458.freebsd@edvax.de> <CA%2B4TWFvf7w=4djQfWLtXhqmip0Rb72Js6BbOW=F_gUkufXuQFw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 8:28 AM Chris Knipe <savage@savage.za.org> wrote: > https://imgur.com/a/eW01Zc2 Your own message - a very good example of > what's wrong with it. Straight from gmail. In outlook (for example, which > has a narrower reading plane), it will be even worse, as even -more- > scrolling would be required. > Reading the original message on gmail was no problem for me nor unreadable in any way (you must have your gmail configured in some f'ed up way!). > We don't use 640x480 monitors anymore (hell, not even our SSH sessions run > at these low resolutions and 80 col / 25 rows anymore) - we're way past > that as well... Whilst I now have to scroll up and down to read your > message, I could have seen your entire message in one screen without the > need to scroll up and down. > Maybe if you have *perfect* eyesight you could see it on one screen! (Not everyone is 18 and has vision better than most fighter pilots). And you might be wrong about the row/col count of some/most SSH (X based terminal apps) for example on a 1920x1080 monitor (27") my 50 year old eyes need 37x135 (not that much larger than 25x80) when using a xfce terminal, the default font size is unreadable even with 1.75 diopter reading glasses (which are not needed if I use the above resolution). Before you go crazy about how everything can be done via a GUI I have one question: are you a programmer or a sysadmin? (if not then you have no idea of how useful a command line is vs. the GUI). > What's the most efficient? I guess that's a matter of opinion too. > If it is unreadable then it is clearly no efficient. > I hear what you are saying, and I am by no means suggesting sending a 200kb > email, with 10mb of HTML embedded in it either, but we are WAY past, 80 > col, 25 rows... It would be interesting to see how 80x25 actually looks > on today's say, 34" monitors (or whatever the entry level monitors are > these days) > Entry level from my local computer superstore (microcenter) is 25" and I am sure I would have an even lower resolution there. So no we are *NOT* way past 25x80, you are just being dense and an elitist to say otherwise. > -- > > Regards, > Chris Knipe > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org
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