From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 3 00:50:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAB17AA; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 00:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erich@alogt.com) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74682CEF; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 00:50:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=F6UwbHWTfFQKXgk7+1JWaQyWBExLgoY7DnUBcSNNBHs=; b=qPxC1SZRUReqUL7fmEYHWstOUZjY450fEaMP2JicHQ+T+MkKMmqx0sxSA/cGI4+Mzdg+uo5tJbEf0dpOpJLA5CGuCqkP2UrC+85fb/vpEgvnq3A76iqA7A0WaEqGaYco; Received: from [122.129.203.50] (port=25555 helo=X220.ovitrap.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TqZ16-004HtB-Uw; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:50:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 07:50:37 +0700 From: Erich Dollansky To: Matthias Andree Subject: Re: Does / Is anyone maintaining CVS for FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20130103075037.130afa18@X220.ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <50E45A03.9080600@FreeBSD.org> References: <50E1D012.1040004@missouri.edu> <20121231175808.GA1399@glenbarber.us> <6817fb4c15659b194cc658b1dfa58a31.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> <148920333.20121231235441@takeda.tk> <50E3444D.1060307@mu.org> <6794891ed487f426d2c5d0108648f1e0.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> <20130102123148.1f493d00@X220.ovitrap.com> <50E45A03.9080600@FreeBSD.org> Organization: ALO Green Technologies X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erich@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 00:50:42 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:02:11 +0100 Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 02.01.2013 06:31, schrieb Erich Dollansky: > > Hi, > > > >> Thank God! I'd hate to think that after unwinding years accumulated > >> CVS process, to rewind it for SVN, only to have to do it again for > >> GIT, just seems a bit masochistic. > > > > do not worry. It will come. > > > > Seriously, I do not understand many changes especially when there > > is a system in place which does not affect a running system at all > > but things inside the OS still could be improved. > > The migration was made in order to get "things inside the OS ... > improved" at all. Developers were fed up wasting too much time > struggling with CVS itself rather than working on "the things inside > the OS". I hightly doubt that the efforts spent now are worth this. It would have been so much easier and smoother to make the change with 10.0. A normal user does not expect any changes of this kind in a x.1 release. But it also makes one other problem obvious. The ports tree has no version numbers. So, even if the switch would have been made with the 10.0 release, it would have been the same problem for the ports tree. Even today, the handbook states only two sites for SVN and a long list for CVS. Wouldn't it have been a bit more practical to build the infrastructure first and then pull the plug? What will happen to the two SVN servers when no others come up soon? Is the user base so small that two servers are able to handle the traffic? Erich