From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Mar 15 21:59: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11AE037B719 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2001 21:59:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 72669 invoked by uid 100); 16 Mar 2001 05:58:58 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15025.43938.664103.581604@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 23:58:58 -0600 To: John-Mark Gurney Cc: Mike Meyer , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2-R installer bombs because I can't turn UDMA off... In-Reply-To: <20010315215321.24862@hydrogen.funkthat.com> References: <90398345@toto.iv> <15025.32595.37743.216651@guru.mired.org> <20010315211635.03666@hydrogen.funkthat.com> <15025.43252.892357.838080@guru.mired.org> <20010315215321.24862@hydrogen.funkthat.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John-Mark Gurney types: > Mike Meyer scribbled this message on Mar 15: > > > that's a good option if the fixit.flp contained a copy of sysctl, but > > > it doesn't, so it's quite hard when you don't have a copy of sysctl, > > > I guess I *COULD* manually mount the cdrom, and extract out sysctl > > > from the bin dist, but how the hell is Joe Newbie suppose to know how > > > to do all of this?? > > > > Um - if you can mount the CDROM, you should be able to get to the > > fixit cdrom as easily as you get to the fixit floppy. > > ummm... who said I had the fixit cdrom?? I only have the first cdrom > thanks to a friend (Thanks Doug White! :) ), and even if the second > cdrom is avail, there is no way I'm downloading a 600meg+ iso image > over a 28.8kbps Ricochet.. > > > And yes, it'd be a lot easier if we could get hardware vendors to > > install FreeBSD instead of Windows, but I wouldn't hold your breath. > ummm.. who said anything about having hardware vendors loading FreeBSD? > it wouldn't of helped in this case as I built the machine myself... You mentioned newbies. That's how newbies get their OS installed - it comes with the machine. People with the gumption to try something else aren't newbies. They have to face a bit of adversity, and dealing with hardware that requires a bit of tweaking of the software is part of that. The hardware manufacturer deals with that for newbies. The fixit CDROM carries a compilation copyright. You can't legally get it without buying a distribution, or having someone give you one of the originals. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message