From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Apr 1 14:24:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07363 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 14:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07342 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 14:24:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA27317; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 14:21:45 -0800 (PST) To: proff@suburbia.net cc: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert), joe@pavilion.net, gbeach@cybernet.com, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Internal clock In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Apr 1997 04:34:42 +1000." <19970401183442.3989.qmail@suburbia.net> Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 14:21:45 -0800 Message-ID: <27313.859933305@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The sad reality is if these things are not incorporated in -current > then they fall by as the original authors move onto other projects. The problem is that we need more committer/reviewers who are capable of bringing stuff in at this scale without also breaking everything. That's not as easy as it sounds, and even some of our best current people still break the tree now. :-) Breaking the tree is also a problem because of the amount of tech support it generates. It might not bother the end-user to have to stay away from -current for a few days, but as one of the developers who gets subjected to an endless stream (many messages a day!) of mail saying "current is broken!" "did you know current is broken?" "hey, I just thought I'd let you know that current is broken again. Get your act togther, guys!" every time current is broken, I mind it very very much. Break the tree for 3 days and you've just guaranteed about 200 messages in my inbox (sent to me *directly*, not even through the mailing lists - those account for another 300 or so). If people have begun to wonder at our conservatism, that's one very big reason for it. Jordan