From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 8 16:18:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B906816A418; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.org) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (trang.nuxi.org [74.95.12.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F7B13C478; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.org) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id l98GIhgi054163; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:18:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id l98GIhHA054162; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:18:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:18:43 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20071008161843.GC70978@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <200710052249.l95Mn9Nb071852@repoman.freebsd.org> <20071005231538.GA24016@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2a41acea0710051705l217224b6vc705dc6139b94e3b@mail.gmail.com> <20071006004634.GA24962@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <47073AF5.1010109@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47073AF5.1010109@samsco.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Jack F Vogel , cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Jack Vogel , cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files kern.pre.mk src/sys/dev/em LICENSE e1000_80003es2lan.c e1000_80003es2lan.h e1000_82540.c e1000_82541.c e1000_82541.h e1000_82542.c e1000_82543.c e1000_82543.h e1000_82571.c e1000_82571.h e1000_82575.c ... X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:18:44 -0000 On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 01:36:21AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > Erik Trulsson wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 05:05:05PM -0700, Jack Vogel wrote: >>> On 10/5/07, Erik Trulsson wrote: >>>> On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:49:09PM +0000, Jack F Vogel wrote: .. >>>>> Log: >>>>> MFC of Intel driver version 6.6.6 .. >>>> Am I right in thinking that this code is actually newer than the >>>> code in -CURRENT (which seems to be version 6.5.3) ? If this is >>>> indeed the case, then shouldn't this code have gone into -CURRENT >>>> first? >>> >>> Yes, it is newer, the reason for this is the delta between what >>> CURRENT has and this is small, and I did not want to impact CURRENT >>> while its frozen getting ready for release. .. >>> I would actually have liked to update BOTH CURRENT and STABLE with >>> this but I was holding off on CURRENT because there are no critical >>> bug fixes it doesnt have, and its about to be made into a release. >> >> As I understand it the policy of FreeBSD is that new stuff *always* >> should go into -CURRENT first before it is allowed to go into any >> -STABLE branch. .. > What do you expect to accomplish by lecturing a vendor who has shown > very good faith over the years in supporting FreeBSD? Maybe we should > tell Intel to piss off since you obviously know how to support their > hardware much better than they do. Scott, I think you're being overly harsh. Erik was not questioning how this vendor and active FreeBSD committer was supporting their hardware. It was a question about FreeBSD practices. I think it is a fair question - and one that shows how badly our current situation of having HEAD tree frozen for an overly extended amount of time is putting a real crimp on our practices. -- David