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On Sun, 8 Mar 1998, Nate Williams wrote:

> > >According to Kirk, if someone wants to use it in a "Production ISP System"
> > >(to cite one of his examples) they need to negotiate a license from him.
> > >
> > >To use a single word Kirk: NO.
> > 
> > >That's nothing short of incredible, if you ask me.
> > 
> > It's amazing how some of the same people who decry commercializing
> > FreeBSD with donor control of funding have no objection to Kirk's
> > commercial hooks.
> 
> Sad isn't it....
> 
> > Score 1 for the GPL.
> 
> The GPL has nothing to do with this.  This is simply a commercial entity
> that has paid Kirk that would like to not having to re-integrate this
> into FreeBSD as changes are made.

  What commercial entity?  I'm guessing that you are refering to Whistle.

> Basically, this commercial entity is giving some of it's work to
> FreeBSD, and making it 'easier' for Kirk to get money since other
> 'commercial' entities who want to use Kirk's work have everything but
> the legal license.

  More are benefiting that just Kirk (money) and Whistle (not having to
re-integrate changes).

> Sort of a 'big carrot' dangling out in front that they can't legally
> obtain.

  According to my understanding of Kirk's message(s), all commercial
entities have to do is step up and buy a license, and they can use
SoftUpdates too.

> Nate

Tom


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