From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Mon Dec 11 17:58:15 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3503AE98E6F; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DF2B7084B; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id vBBHwCYU082323; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:58:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id vBBHwBlD082322; Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:58:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201712111758.vBBHwBlD082322@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: svn commit: r326758 - in head/sys/i386: conf include In-Reply-To: <20171211161839.GM2272@kib.kiev.ua> To: Konstantin Belousov Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:58:11 -0800 (PST) CC: rgrimes@freebsd.org, Conrad Meyer , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Reply-To: rgrimes@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2017 17:58:15 -0000 ... > > > > We need to break the developers model that i386 is dead and that i386 is > > not running on extremly modern hardware due to the factor of virtualization. > > > > Output from one of my VM's running inside bhyve: > > > > # uname -a > > FreeBSD filestore.dnsmgr.net 11.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE #0 r321309: Fri Jul 21 04:10:47 UTC 2017 root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > > > # dmesg | head -24 > > Copyright (c) 1992-2017 The FreeBSD Project. > > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > > FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE #0 r321309: Fri Jul 21 02:08:28 UTC 2017 > > root@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > FreeBSD clang version 4.0.0 (tags/RELEASE_400/final 297347) (based on LLVM 4.0.0) > > VT(vga): resolution 640x480 > > info: [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 > > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz (2494.39-MHz K8-class CPU) > This is quite old processor, IvyBridge is 6 generations old :). I think you missed the point, this is a i386 guest running on an amd64 host inside of a hypervisor, bottom line, your gona see advanced amd64 features in i386 running in such situations, and we should probably stop ignoreing this fact and embrace it as reality. Another words you are going to see i386 running on the 6 generation newer CPU that I dont have, and to say that this is unlikely is just a false statement. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org