Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:51:52 -0500 From: "Jeff Lawton" <jeff@idealso.com> To: "Server Admin" <admin@sage-one.net>, <linux-user@egr.msu.edu>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: RE: [GLLUG] Re: apcups Message-ID: <NFBBJDLNADNIPCNOAPMHKEJBCFAA.jeff@idealso.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20020314215200.01178868@mail.sage-one.net>
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Is there a better package or port I could use I am not personally attached
to acpupsd
-----Original Message-----
From: Server Admin [mailto:admin@sage-one.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:52 PM
To: jeff@idealso.com; linux-user@egr.msu.edu;
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: RE: [GLLUG] Re: apcups
Jeff: No, sio0 is not the device. You should be using this:
"DEVICE /dev/ttyd0" # For com 1
Then make sure you have the right cable number which is found on the flat
side of the connector. I gather that is where you got the number used.
Otherwise your configuration looks correct.
When starting the daemon, look at #tail -f /var/log/apcupsd.events and see
what is happening. If it shows no errors and that "startup succeeded" then
you have the right device assigned. It will not start with the wrong com
port device and show an error in the log.
I'm afraid with a "dumb UPS" you are not going to see much more.... maybe
some one else has some tricks I don't know about... I'd like to learn about
them too because I have several "dummies" here.
I've overcome the problem as said before by using a APC smartups as a
master on one machine and the dummies as "slaves" on the other machines. The
master can signal the other machines on the network to shut down after a
designated amount of time (well within the limits of the battery of course).
Thus, the dummies (through the apcupsd daemons on them) do what they are
told to do by the master. You can set the timeouts on each machine.
At 10:29 PM 3.14.2002 -0500, Jeff Lawton wrote:
>>>>
Yes i looked throught the apcupsd site and most of the documentation is
about smart ups and the backups is a dumb one. I checked the bios and
everything there is fine. can i access sio0 directly or will that not work?
-----Original Message-----
From: Server Admin [mailto:admin@sage-one.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:42 PM
To: jeff@idealso.com; linux-user@egr.msu.edu;
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: RE: [GLLUG] Re: apcups
Jeff: First, have you visited the very thorough website at:
http://www.apcupsd.org/
It has almost everything you want to know.
BUT, I have tried many different types of UPSes and I could only get the
APC Smart-UPS models to actually "talk" to the system and give out data
about the battery. If you have the Backups, I think it is among the "dumb
UPSes" that are described in the documentation and very limited on the cable
signals. If you pull off the cable, you *may* be told it sensed a break, but
as far as any useful data...???
Again, I will never buy anything BUT an APC Smart-UPS.... if I want to
communicate with it. The so-called "dumb UPSes" are okay IF you have a
smart-ups running on the network to monitor things and tell the ones without
ability to shut down. At least the dumb ones will sense a power outage and
run the machines long enough to save files and shut down.... I may be wrong
about your model, but don't think so....
At 05:55 PM 3.14.2002 -0500, Jeff Lawton wrote:
>>>>
I am using apcupsd from the ports collection on comm 1 and with APC,s
serial cable 940-0020C that came with the unit and freebsd 4.5. I have tried
both cuaa0 and ttyd0 without success. the ups is feeding a lightbulb and
when I unplug the ups I get no messages, any ideals?
Here is a copy of the conf file.am I missing something ?
## apcupsd.conf v1.1 ##
UPSCABLE 940-0020C
UPSTYPE backups
DEVICE /dev/ttyd0
LOCKFILE /var/apcups/lock
UPSCLASS standalone
UPSMODE disable
ANNOY 10
ANNOYDELAY 20
-----Original Message-----
From: linux-user-admin@egr.msu.edu
[mailto:linux-user-admin@egr.msu.edu]On Behalf Of Server Admin
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:28 PM
To: jeff@idealso.com; linux-user@egr.msu.edu;
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: [GLLUG] Re: apcups
Try /dev/ttyd0
At 03:55 PM 3.14.2002 -0500, Jeff Lawton wrote:
>>>>
I am setting up a APC backups 650 on a freebsd box. It does not seem
to be communicating. Is there a different device I should be using other
than cuaa0?
Jeff Lawton
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Best regards,
Jack L. Stone
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Best regards,
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Server Admin
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Best regards,
Jack L. Stone
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Server Admin=20
[mailto:admin@sage-one.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 14, 2002 =
10:52=20
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apcups<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Jeff: No, sio0 is not the device. You =
should be=20
using this:<BR>"DEVICE /dev/ttyd0" # For com 1<BR>Then make sure you =
have the=20
right cable number which is found on the flat side of the connector. I =
gather=20
that is where you got the number used. Otherwise your configuration =
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correct.<BR><BR>When starting the daemon, look at #tail -f=20
/var/log/apcupsd.events and see what is happening. If it shows no =
errors and=20
that "startup succeeded" then you have the right device assigned. It =
will not=20
start with the wrong com port device and show an error in the =
log.<BR><BR>I'm=20
afraid with a "dumb UPS" you are not going to see much more.... maybe =
some one=20
else has some tricks I don't know about... I'd like to learn about =
them too=20
because I have several "dummies" here.<BR><BR>I've overcome the =
problem as=20
said before by using a APC smartups as a master on one machine and the =
dummies=20
as "slaves" on the other machines. The master can signal the other =
machines on=20
the network to shut down after a designated amount of time (well =
within the=20
limits of the battery of course). Thus, the dummies (through the =
apcupsd=20
daemons on them) do what they are told to do by the master. You can =
set the=20
timeouts on each machine.<BR><BR>At 10:29 PM 3.14.2002 -0500, Jeff =
Lawton=20
wrote: <BR>>>>><BR><?fontfamily><?param =
Arial><?color><?param 0000,0000,ffff><?smaller>Yes=20
i looked throught the apcupsd site and most of the documentation is =
about=20
smart ups and the backups is a dumb one. I checked the bios and =
everything=20
there is fine. can i access sio0 directly or will that not =
work?<BR><?/smaller><?/color><?/fontfamily>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Tahoma><?smaller>-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><?/smaller><?/fontfamily><B>From:</B> Server Admin=20
[mailto:admin@sage-one.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 14, 2002 =
6:42=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> jeff@idealso.com; linux-user@egr.msu.edu;=20
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [GLLUG] Re:=20
apcups<BR><BR>Jeff: First, have you visited the very thorough =
website=20
at:<BR>http://www.apcupsd.org/<BR><BR>It has almost everything you =
want to=20
know.<BR><BR>BUT, I have tried many different types of UPSes and I =
could=20
only get the APC Smart-UPS models to actually "talk" to the system =
and give=20
out data about the battery. If you have the Backups, I think it is =
among the=20
"dumb UPSes" that are described in the documentation and very =
limited on the=20
cable signals. If you pull off the cable, you *may* be told it =
sensed a=20
break, but as far as any useful data...???<BR><BR>Again, I will =
never buy=20
anything BUT an APC Smart-UPS.... if I want to communicate with it. =
The=20
so-called "dumb UPSes" are okay IF you have a smart-ups running on =
the=20
network to monitor things and tell the ones without ability to shut =
down. At=20
least the dumb ones will sense a power outage and run the machines =
long=20
enough to save files and shut down.... I may be wrong about your =
model, but=20
don't think so....<BR><BR>At 05:55 PM 3.14.2002 -0500, Jeff Lawton =
wrote:=20
<BR>>>>><BR>I am using apcupsd from the ports collection =
on comm=20
1 and with APC,s serial cable 940-0020C that came with the unit and =
freebsd=20
4.5. I have tried both cuaa0 and ttyd0 without success. the ups is =
feeding a=20
lightbulb and when I unplug the ups I get no messages, any=20
ideals?<BR><BR>Here is a copy of the conf file.am I missing =
something ?=20
<BR><BR>## apcupsd.conf v1.1 ##<BR>UPSCABLE 940-0020C<BR>UPSTYPE=20
backups<BR>DEVICE /dev/ttyd0<BR>LOCKFILE =
/var/apcups/lock<BR>UPSCLASS=20
standalone<BR>UPSMODE disable<BR>ANNOY 10<BR>ANNOYDELAY 20<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
linux-user-admin@egr.msu.edu =
[mailto:linux-user-admin@egr.msu.edu]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Server Admin<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 14, =
2002 4:28=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> jeff@idealso.com; linux-user@egr.msu.edu;=20
freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG<BR><B>Subject:</B> [GLLUG] Re:=20
apcups<BR><BR>Try /dev/ttyd0<BR><BR>At 03:55 PM 3.14.2002 -0500, =
Jeff=20
Lawton wrote: <BR>>>>><BR><BR><BR>I am setting up a =
APC=20
backups 650 on a freebsd box. It does not seem to be =
communicating. Is=20
there a different device I should be using other than=20
cuaa0?<BR><BR><BR><BR>Jeff=20
=
Lawton<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><<<<<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR=
><BR>....=20
our website: http://www.sage-one.net/<BR><BR>Best =
regards,<BR><BR>Jack L.=20
Stone<BR>Server Admin =
_______________________________________________=20
linux-user mailing list linux-user@egr.msu.edu=20
http://www.egr.msu.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-user=20
<BR><BR><BR><<<<<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>.... our =
website:=20
http://www.sage-one.net/<BR><BR>Best regards,<BR><BR>Jack L.=20
Stone<BR>Server Admin=20
=
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><<<<<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR=
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our website: http://www.sage-one.net/<BR><BR>Best regards,<BR><BR>Jack =
L.=20
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