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I'm running 11.3-STABLE in the kernel LINT file I see options GEOM_LINUX_LVM options COMPAT_LINUXKPI options COMPAT_LINUX32 but COMPAT_LINUX no longer is a recognized symbol. .... Hmmm... On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:44 PM Kevin P. Neal wrote: > On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 01:58:28PM -0700, Michael Sierchio wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 12:06 PM Polytropon wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, the Linux ABI is still present in the kernel. With pkg, > > > you can install the compatibility tools; it uses CentOS 7 to > > > populate the /compat/linux subtree, and there are several > > > Linux applications in the ports tree that run fine on FreeBSD. > > > I have even tried this for games - it works! :-) > > > > > > > > Forgive my ignorance, but the last time I seriously looked at Linux > > compatibility, it was strictly 32-bit. Has that changed? > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/linuxemu.html > "Note: Support for 64-bit binary compatibility with Linux=C2=AE was added= in > FreeBSD 10.3." > > -- > Kevin P. Neal http://www.pobox.com/~kpn/ > On the community of supercomputer fans: > "But what we lack in size we make up for in eccentricity." > from Steve Gombosi, comp.sys.super, 31 Jul 2000 11:22:43 -0600 > --=20 "Well," Brahm=C4=81 said, "even after ten thousand explanations, a fool is = no wiser, but an intelligent person requires only two thousand five hundred." - The Mah=C4=81bh=C4=81rata