From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 6 21:03:16 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29AB1065676 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6408FC18 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o56L3C1Z025864; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:03:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A62FCBA9E; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:03:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:03:11 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20100606210311.GA20105@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100606203416.GF46089@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20100606223826.62a42f7a.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100606223826.62a42f7a.freebsd@edvax.de> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Chip Camden , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: office apps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:03:17 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:38:26PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > > This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap > > me over to the right one. > >=20 > > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? > > OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a > > spreadsheet. Indeed. =20 > There are office conglomerates both for KDE and Gnome, KOffice and > GOffice. If you already have either of them installed, you may try > this. >=20 > An acceptable stand-alone word processor is Abiword. =20 Don't forget LaTeX! Especially since it is quite easy for scripting languag= es to generate LaTeX code (automation). > > Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supp= orts > > complex formulas and charting?=20 >=20 > Gnumeric. Second that. Especially for quick & dirty jobs. > > If it could also be used without X11 when > > charting isn't needed, that would make my day. >=20 > CVS for data, C or awk for processing, gnuplot for plotting. :-) For real data munching, programming languages do a much better job indeed. = May I also suggest Perl, Lua and Python al alternatives to C and awk? And 'make' to tie everything together. Unless your machine is severely underpowered or your datasets are _huge_, scripting languages tend to be fast enough for da= ta processing, IMHO. The general weakness of office suites is _automation_, something that progr= ams following the UNIX philosophy excel at. (pardon the pun). Quoting Doug McIl= roy: This is the Unix philosophy: Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text st= reams, because that is a universal interface. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkwMDQ8ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWc3QCcCWamMtTkPdH6JQr5EdUbwyag YAsAn1BSumeyfqBeNXQY1259Rz8gSxtJ =IDiS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA--