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Date:      Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:08:49 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
To:        "Alexander N. Kabaev" <ak03@gte.com>
Cc:        Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu>, Daniel Eischen <eischen@vigrid.com>
Subject:   Re: Rsh/Rlogin/Rcmd & friends 
Message-ID:  <200009152208.e8FM8tZ26513@cwsys.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:58:34 EDT." <XFMail.000915175834.ak03@gte.com> 

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In message <XFMail.000915175834.ak03@gte.com>, "Alexander N. Kabaev" 
writes:
> > So what!  That's the price of security.  I believe that the 
> > telnet/ftp/"r" commands shouldn't even be ports.  We need to make it 
> > difficult to install unsafe software on the system.  That way the admin 
> > would have to go to all the trouble to find the source for unsafe 
> > software somewhere on the Net, port it, and install it.  Then it's not 
> > FreeBSD's fault if that admin's system is compromised.
> 
> Disabling corresponding inetd.conf entries will serve that purpose as well.
> Some of us work in places full of Unixes of all kinds and flavours and
> out-of-the-box interoperability argument presented by Steve makes a lot of
> sense in such an environment.
> 
> "Everything is the package" idea is OK as long as we will retain the option o
> f
> complete system upgrade using CVS/buildworld path. Forcing users to deal with
> every package separately will destroy that fuzzy feeling of completeness and
> tightly OS components integration FreeBSD was always famous for and IMHO will
> do more damage than good.
> 
> Please count my voice as "strongly against" proposed code removal.

How about a compromise?  Like an option or options in make.conf?  Then 
put telnet/ftp/"r" commands into an rcmddist distribution?


Regards,                       Phone:  (250)387-8437
Cy Schubert                      Fax:  (250)387-5766
Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team   Internet:  Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca
Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA
Province of BC





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