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Date:      Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:29:04 -0400
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        Achim Patzner <ap@bnc.net>
Cc:        "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" <unixmania@gmail.com>, Dag-Erling =?UTF-8?B?U23DuHJncmF2?= <des@des.no>, freebsd-hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Laptop suggestions?
Message-ID:  <20080731112904.52255aac@mbook.local>
In-Reply-To: <3A7C430E-AA1C-4CF3-88F5-F7A0EBE3273A@bnc.net>
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:17:54 +0200 Achim Patzner <ap@bnc.net> wrote:
> Getting X to run on the *censored* *even more censorship*? No problem,

Like you say, it depends on what you want from X. Leopard's X was
tolerable. Tiger broke full screen mode, and Apple doesn't have the
resources to fix it. Running X tools in a Mac WM means you get the
worst features of both, and I gave up on that after about 20 minutes.

So I now run FreeBSD in VMWare - to get a usable X server and window
manager. The apps - mostly from macports - all run under OSX. The
application selection isn't as good as FreeBSD, but the results are
about as close as you're going to get with full hardware support.

FWIW, it looks like VirtualBox will have client-side tools support for
FreeBSD in the next release (as in, it looks like it's in their
repository), at which point that will become my preferred VM solution
for FreeBSD clients.

    <mike
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