From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 10 0:10:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B8D37B401; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [216.187.87.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED6D43E6E; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:10:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 85002AE497; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-10-20 - 2002-11-09 Message-Id: <20021110081001.85002AE497@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 6-Nov : Postfix - virtual domains This is easier than it sounds.... http://freebsddiary.org/postfix.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 10 2:54:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966B837B401 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from 12-234-90-219.client.attbi.com (12-234-90-219.client.attbi.com [12.234.90.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABF943E3B for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:54:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DougB@FreeBSD.org) Received: from master.gorean.org (master.gorean.org [10.0.0.2]) by 12-234-90-219.client.attbi.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gAAAspmX057355; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:54:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DougB@FreeBSD.org) Received: from master.gorean.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by master.gorean.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAAAsoOG005481; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:54:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DougB@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by master.gorean.org (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id gAAAsn2T005464; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:54:49 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: master.gorean.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:54:48 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton To: Ajay Chandel Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Hi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021110025344.L76430-100000@master.gorean.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Ajay Chandel wrote: > Hi , > Actually I am new to FreeBSD earlier I used to work in Linux. SO most of the > concepts of linux kernel are clear and I am very much accoustomed to the > linux kernel's source code. > But Right now I've shifted to the FreeBSD and I am facing problems to > basically understand the kernel source code that where are files for process > management , files for drivers etc. and what ways does it differs from > linux. > I am not able to get even any kind of thorough documentation of FreeBSD. > So, can u guys help me out. There is a lot of good documentation on the website... start with reading the handbook and FAQ. Then take a good look at the bibliography. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 10 5:16:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1910037B401 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 05:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts12.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBED43E88 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 05:16:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daniel.suh@sympatico.ca) Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.231.201.133]) by tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110131631.DQTC1892.tomts12-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca>; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:16:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCE5C2D.6050509@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:16:29 -0500 From: Daniel Suh User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0rc2) Gecko/20020618 Netscape/7.0b1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ko, ko-kr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ding Lei Cc: freebsd-newbies Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation problem References: <1036471521.58f558c0leiding@myrealbox.com> <3DC7CD42.7060704@sympatico.ca> <1036512706.5044.1.camel@localhost> <200211051126.50300.nyingelay@hotpop.com> <3DC85869.2050306@sympatico.ca> <1036931074.18543.10.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ding Lei wrote: > First of all Thank you all for your help! > Just one problem, I got a slow connection here(33.6k modem)... I really > dont' want to spend 5 nights to download it. > > Any suggestion? > > > Thanks. > Hi, Ding. That's a bummer. OK, to your question, there are several choices but one I think most as favourable to you is this. Buy CD from somebody else. One I have used before and like is this: www.cheapbytes.com. I just checked and they sell FBSD 4.7 CD at 4.99 US dollars. http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070010862.html Or, other method would be to go to www.freebsdmall.com and purchase FBSD kit. If you can spare, then I would recommend you buy "The Complete FreeBSD". Other CDs include live filesystem and other goodies which might or might not needed for you. It is much pricier alternative to cheapbyte. Choice is up to you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 10 12: 0:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DB137B401 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f130.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA4243E3B for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:00:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crollins666@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:00:27 -0800 Received: from 216.19.22.118 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:00:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.19.22.118] From: "clayton rollins" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hi Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:00:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2002 20:00:27.0007 (UTC) FILETIME=[D02150F0:01C288F3] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Hi , >Actually I am new to FreeBSD earlier I used to work in Linux. SO most of >the concepts of linux kernel are clear and I am very much accoustomed to >the linux kernel's source code. >But Right now I've shifted to the FreeBSD and I am facing problems to >basically understand the kernel source code that where are files for >process management , files for drivers etc. and what ways does it differs >from linux. >I am not able to get even any kind of thorough documentation of FreeBSD. >So, can u guys help me out? BSD itself has pretty good documentation in my opinion, but if you need more documentation, try general unix documentation. General unix docs (not sys V or solaris specific docs) should be very applicable to BSD, which could be seen as the most general form of unix around. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 10 12:10: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B748137B401; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gbronline.com (mail.gbronline.com [12.145.226.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2821043E75; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:09:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from DaleCoportable [12.145.236.63] by mail.gbronline.com (SMTPD32-7.13) id AC9576ED0210; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:07:49 -0600 Message-ID: <004601c288f4$7ddc9100$fa00a8c0@DaleCoportable> From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: "Doug Barton" , "Ajay Chandel" Cc: References: <20021110025344.L76430-100000@master.gorean.org> Subject: Re: Hi Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:05:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Doug Barton" To: "Ajay Chandel" Subject: Re: Hi > On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Ajay Chandel wrote: > > > Hi , > > Actually I am new to FreeBSD earlier I used to work in Linux. SO most of the > > concepts of linux kernel are clear and I am very much accoustomed to the > > linux kernel's source code. > > But Right now I've shifted to the FreeBSD and I am facing problems to > > basically understand the kernel source code that where are files for process > > management , files for drivers etc. and what ways does it differs from > > linux. > > I am not able to get even any kind of thorough documentation of FreeBSD. > > So, can u guys help me out. > > There is a lot of good documentation on the website... start with reading > the handbook and FAQ. Then take a good look at the bibliography. > > Good luck, > > Doug > Not to mention that many folks have stated publicly that BSD manpages are superior to those of Linux. I've no interest in starting a holy war on that claim, I have no experience with the Penguin, and lots of smart folks I have known use it. However, I can clearly state this: "man, oh, man the man is deep!" $man man Cheers, Kevin Kinsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 10 16: 9:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C3F37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:09:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.alloy.com (mail.alloy.com [209.225.55.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C23943E6E for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:09:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:23:15 -0500 Message-Id: <10211101823.AA02336@mail.alloy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Postmaster" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Virus Detected X-Mailer: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A message for this address contained a virus and was not delivered. Virus detected - W32.Klez.H@mm The message was from Subject: Articles To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 10 16:50: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D0C37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccimhc01.insightbb.com (sccimhc01.insightbb.com [63.240.76.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B466343E42 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:50:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bryanc2000@insightbb.com) Received: from insightbb.com ([12.222.162.255]) by sccimhc01.insightbb.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021111005000.WAYT3682.sccimhc01.insightbb.com@insightbb.com> for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 00:50:00 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:50:00 -0600 From: Bryan Cassidy To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Apache Help Message-Id: <20021110185000.11e17fc5.bryanc2000@insightbb.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok here is the deal. I've been "trying" to get apache to work on my FreeBSD 4.6.2 box. Here is what I was told I should do to install apache/php http://lith.hn.org/apache.php I know it install this way but want to make sure it is the "correct" way to install apache/php on freebsd. The domain name I am trying to use with apache is bsdsys.dyndns.org and I just can't get it. Sorry, I've RTFM many times and just don't know what I'm doing wrong. I hope someone will help me out here. I am going to do a new install of apache/php from those instructions on that site I just provided here unless someone says I should do it different. All I want for starters is to get apache working to where when someone hits bsdsys.dyndns.org it shows the apache stuff so atleast "I" know I have things setup right then I will work on the rest to add the content. So if no one minds to help me I would really appreciate it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 10 17:10:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5376C37B401 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from 1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F117743E4A for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:10:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hamellr@heorot.1nova.com) Received: by 1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 84B9618FA; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:14:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF6518F8; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:14:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:14:01 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Bryan Cassidy Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache Help In-Reply-To: <20021110185000.11e17fc5.bryanc2000@insightbb.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You should ask these types of questions on -questions. That's what it exists for. -newbies is for helping people know where to start looking. Since you mention that you've already RTFM... you've obviously got the basics down. 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MailTo:ksnnj@yahoo.com?subject=take-out To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 11 7: 9:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DFD37B401 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (oe25.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6A243E75 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:09:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from romdhan@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:09:50 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [217.128.219.29] From: "Romdhan BEN YOUNES" To: Subject: Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:08:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c28994$4154d940$0701050a@06romdhan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2002 15:09:50.0103 (UTC) FILETIME=[6156AA70:01C28994] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bonjour, J'ai d=E9couvert depuis pas longtemps, le monde UNIX et =E7a m'int=E9resse vraiment fort, tr=E8s fort. J'aimerais bien faire quelque chose pour cette communaut=E9, alors si je peux apprendre de nouveaux trucs en aidant =E0 faire quelque chose, je suis disponible. Merci. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 11 7:29: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A6237B401 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:29:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gbronline.com (mail.gbronline.com [12.145.226.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9C843E91 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:29:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from DaleCoportable [12.145.226.116] by mail.gbronline.com (SMTPD32-7.13) id AC3F92CF01F8; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:26:55 -0600 Message-ID: <02c501c28996$56444690$fa00a8c0@DaleCoportable> From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: "Romdhan BEN YOUNES" , References: <000001c28994$4154d940$0701050a@06romdhan> Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:23:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Romdhan BEN YOUNES" To: Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:08 AM >Bonjour, > >J'ai d้couvert depuis pas longtemps, le monde UNIX >et ็a m'int้resse vraiment fort, tr่s fort. J'aimerais >bien faire quelque chose pour cette communaut้, >alors si je peux apprendre de nouveaux trucs en aidant >เ faire quelque chose, je suis disponible. >Merci. Salutations... L'one-way que j'ai plaisir 'เ aider 'l''communaut้ 'est en faisant un certain temps pour passer en revue de diverses listes d'exp้dition et en offrant l'aide เ ces gens qui pourraient avoir des questions ou des probl่mes. J'ai constat้ en g้n้ral que la discussion est utile apprend plus au sujet d'UNIX et le logiciel d'exploitation de FreeBSD en particulier. Si votre langue maternelle est Francais, vous pourriez aller voir les listes d'exp้dition disponibles เ www.freebsd-fr.org. If you wish to also work on your English, subscribe to lists from www.freebsd.org. The fact is, however, that while some readers are multilingual, and others use translators, non-English posts to the lists often go for some time without being answered..... Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 11 7:55:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0444237B401 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from server3.safepages.com (server3.safepages.com [216.127.146.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4495843E42 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:55:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phummers@iname.com) Received: from 1Cust59.tnt4.rdu1.da.uu.net (1Cust59.tnt4.rdu1.da.uu.net [63.25.192.59]) by server3.safepages.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF915E22 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:54:56 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:53:24 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hummers X-X-Sender: phummers@cakes.iguanas.org To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Languages In-Reply-To: <02c501c28996$56444690$fa00a8c0@DaleCoportable> Message-ID: <20021111104250.V6154-100000@cakes.iguanas.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, but don't be dissuaded from posting in your own language if you can't express yourself in English. That's what babelfish.altavista.com is for. And we should probably respond in our native language; that way the layer of translations will be minimized. And to the original post, I say, UNIX and its variations is great, the One True Operating System, and I believe the BSDs are the best free versions. May I recommend also the questions@FreeBSD.ORG mail list. , _ {`--. Peter HUMMERS, Production { \/`o;=3D=3D=3D=3D- {:}'-.}>, The Outer Banks Sentinel =2E----'-/`-/ {.--' )) _ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D `'-..-| / __ // /_/ http://www.obsentinel.com /\/\ \_\_((_/___ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D jgs `--` )) \_\ ASCII-Art by Joan G. Stark On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: > From: "Romdhan BEN YOUNES" > >J'ai d=E9couvert depuis pas longtemps, le monde UNIX > >et =E7a m'int=E9resse vraiment fort, tr=E8s fort. J'aimerais > >bien faire quelque chose pour cette communaut=E9, > >alors si je peux apprendre de nouveaux trucs en aidant > >=E0 faire quelque chose, je suis disponible. > > The fact is, however, that while some readers > are multilingual, and others use translators, > non-English posts to the lists often go for > some time without being answered..... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 11 20: 6:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC2537B404 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from web20101.mail.yahoo.com (web20101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B42243E6E for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:06:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bombaler@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20021112040609.38605.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.9.19.11] by web20101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:06:09 PST Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:06:09 -0800 (PST) From: bom baler Subject: sshd Bad File Descriptor warning To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings! I'm new to FreeBSD and I'm puzzled by one of our FreeBSD server emitting the following message when i try to remotely login through an ssh client on a Win98 workstation. The message is goes: -------------------------------------------------------- Warning: no access to tty (Bad file descriptor). Thus no job control in this shell. : Command not found. -------------------------------------------------------- Is this a configuration problem on sshd or is it cause by ipfw? tnx f10 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --=_NextPart_Caramail_0020001037097359_ID Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Kuzo M. Seseko Alternative Email Address: suun4us@yahoo.com My name is Kuzo Mobutu Seseko, the daughter of the late President of Republic of Zaire, now living in exile in South Africa. The circumstances that led to my living in South Africa at the moment cannot be new to you , I know you must know the history of my family. However , during the days of my father=92s reign we were into solid minerals exploration and mining which was the soul base of our family business, mostly diamond and gold. But unfortunately, before my father passed on, he was on exile in Europe which made it impossible for us to organize our businesses especially mining before the political hostility which saw him out of office began. Last year a security company in our country wrote me informing me of a deposit made by my father in my name which is still with them. I intended leaving the deposit with them sequel to my return home so that I can fall on that to start up a business ,but unfortunately, the rebel hostilities at home which have refused to stop up till this moment has made me to think otherwise. Hence I am considering asking the security company to transfer the sum to an oversea country with a stable economy and favorable political condition, so that I can find an indigenous business man / investor in that country to work with in partnership and invest this money. I know your country is an advanced democracy with a more stable economy than that of African countries. Hence I would want us to seek how to invest this sum agreeing on a working percentage.However due to my living status here in South Africa I would want you to keep this offer confidential. 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Envoie un SMS avec le code PS au 61166 (0,35€ Hors co=FBt du SMS) --=_NextPart_Caramail_0020001037097359_ID-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 13 14:26:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E5B37B401 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:26:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from groucho.candhsoftware.com (www.candhsoftware.com [67.41.24.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6255843E3B for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:26:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from awc@groucho.candhsoftware.com) Received: from localhost (awc@localhost) by groucho.candhsoftware.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gADKgiC25100; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:42:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from awc@groucho.candhsoftware.com) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:42:44 -0700 (MST) From: Andy Clements To: Pablo Morales Cc: Subject: Re: sendmail In-Reply-To: <012101c287f0$79526920$0229c80a@abtec412> Message-ID: <20021113133615.Q25059-100000@groucho.candhsoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had the same problem, the solution I used to get it to work was to change the following line in the sendmail.cf file from: #Dj$w.Foo.COM to: Dj$w.yourdomainname.com since sendmail cannot find your DNS, you need to specify to sendmail the domain name. If you do not have a domain name, you may not be able to sendmail to/from outside your network (that I know of). hope that helps. --Andy Andy Clements C & H Software LLC awc@candhsoftware.com On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Pablo Morales wrote: > Hi there. > I installed freesd 4.5 , and the prolem I've got is that I can receive mail, > but cannot send, the error I receive is > My unqualified domine name (FreeBSD), slpeeing for retry. FreeBSD is the > host name. > > What I have to set up?, I connect using an external modem, and it's not > part af a network, so, there is no firewall, or gatweway . > > Thanks > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 14 5:25:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC94537B401 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:25:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mg.novocon.net (ns3.novocon.net [64.80.15.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7C543E6E for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:25:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webdesigners@novocon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mg.novocon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8372B1305B9 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:24:52 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "David Radovanovic" To: Subject: ftp problems Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:41:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=7.0 tests=HOT_NASTY,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OUTLOOK version=2.42 X-Spam-Level: * X-Virus-Scanned: by mailDefender (AMaViS snapshot-20020531) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I recently made my FreeBSD laptop the gateway for my small office network. Prior to that I used my Windows 98SE machine as the gateway and found it to be a bit problematic. However, since I switched to FreeBSD as my gateway I am unable to successfully ftp into another FreeBSD web server which before was no problem. My FreeBSD gateway laptop: FreeBSD 4.7-PRERELEASE #0. The FreeBSD web server: FreeBSD 4.6-RC #0. I am able to log in via ftp, though when I execute any command that allows me to view the files, the server just sits there eventually timing out. It doesn't matter whether I'm in passive or active mode as you can see from the sample below: $ ftp rsci.com Connected to rsci.com. 220 rsc-web1.rsci.com FTP server (Version 6.00LS) ready. Name (rsci.com:XXXX): XXXX 331 Password required for XXXX. Password: 230 User dpaule logged in. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp> passive Passive mode off. ftp> ls 200 PORT command successful. 425 Can't build data connection: Operation timed out. ftp> Is there a firewall in my FreeBSD gateway machine that could be causing this problem? Any help is appreciated. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 14 18:34: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C928D37B404 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:34:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from yahoo.samart.co.th (tidkeaw.samart.co.th [203.149.0.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7956B43E3B for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:34:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iddi@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 19432 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2002 02:42:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ardency.samart.co.th) ([10.0.0.11]) (envelope-sender ) by 10.0.0.22 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Nov 2002 02:42:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 15925 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2002 02:43:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO yahoo.samart.co.th) ([203.149.32.130]) (envelope-sender ) by yahoo.samart.co.th (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Nov 2002 02:43:15 -0000 Message-Id: <1037327638.382@samart.co.th> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:33:58 0700 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org From: "getrich" Subject: มีของดีมาบอก.... 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It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 16 21:10:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001FE37B401; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 21:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [66.11.168.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B144643E6E; Sat, 16 Nov 2002 21:10:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@m20.unixathome.org) Received: by m20.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8CDEE7A69; Sun, 17 Nov 2002 00:10:03 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-10-27 - 2002-11-16 Message-Id: <20021117051003.8CDEE7A69@m20.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 00:10:03 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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