Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 15:17:37 -0500 From: alexmcwhirter@triadic.us To: Sean Bruno <sbruno@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-sparc64 <freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sparc64 doesn't care about you, and you shouldn't care about Sparc64 Message-ID: <59db1eecc713a9af58342f41b700dfd3@triadic.us> In-Reply-To: <563CB6FC.209@freebsd.org> References: <563A5893.1030607@freebsd.org> <20151104214451.GF47630@server.rulingia.com> <CAJ-VmokSfg_iuNP-MBT9VxHoxVbhGEkWtN6Oiy_ezbmhVMeteg@mail.gmail.com> <20151105232431.GE31432@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <CAJ-Vmo=kQgQMH5Fgrpgp6GZtAg4w-0tvAbeCEa%2Bweq8eu9pSsA@mail.gmail.com> <6189d48d3a178c4ebf501361c75de23f@triadic.us> <563CB6FC.209@freebsd.org>
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On 2015-11-06 09:19, Sean Bruno wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On 11/06/15 01:18, alexmcwhirter@triadic.us wrote: >> So is the problem in question the lack of being able to use >> clang/llvm? Or that newer hardware is unsupported? sparc64 supports >> sun4u which is most boxes, Fujitsu Sparc64 boxes also work quite >> well. The only thing really missing is sun4v and a few drivers here >> and there. OpenBSD has support for almost all of the newer >> Sun/Oracle boxes, which shouldn't bee too hard to port over. >> >> http://www.openbsd.org/sparc64.html >> >> Because of the lack of sun4v support i have moved over to a custom >> illumos distro, but one of the things im working on there is to >> replace gcc with clang/llvm. If it means saving the sparc64 port i >> will gladly move some of my work over to freebsd. > > problem 1. the base clang/llvm doesn't support the FreeBSD sparc64 > target. This needs work, and hey, if someone wants to spend the time > to get things working, great. Let's move on it and modernize the > target. > > problem 2. lack of development hardware in the FreeBSD project. I'm > not asking for people to buy the FreeBSD project 10-15 year old sparc > hardware and send it to us. We don't want it. If there is a push to > modernize support for Sparc machines, we can talk about aquiring new > machines and racking them up as reference boxes. If there are people > interested in modernizing CPU support, by all means, move forward and > do it. Don't let me stop you. > > sean > > p.s. if someone wants to take a stab at resurrecting qemu-user-static > support for sparc64 so portmgr can build tier-2 packages like we do > for mips/arm, please take a look at > https://github.com/seanbruno/qemu-bsd-user/tree/bsd-user > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2 > > iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJWPLb5XxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w > ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRCQUFENDYzMkU3MTIxREU4RDIwOTk3REQx > MjAxRUZDQTFFNzI3RTY0AAoJEBIB78oecn5kaf4H/0C3rHmnFv3dtAyYwEzX4vLy > erkQ1MD42czuLuSCcywO/P82u4ytV4Tsc/4A7uJvabQfanZF4s8rBPDdGoodIslO > gZhvtMxhojueqtcvZjcLCBX5v3iu0aDL8w6PAafm0QvUUUNft42jbw+nD8l6xF+5 > pPpKB0OK6KS3beuSqRGqfLIwAGSSXKjkktm3WaPEHu6N+WNCnA/kPMdLl2VTD7fU > SOwkeoE5ItWgeHwQ1V6fr/kbRxJ+QYUxSeN5XeFzkQGM58GlkT2dhjL/y6feU6AO > MlvOJhax03+uOGR4sxQOJ+F5ndWPbuZ+Lk64eVQiHoW6nbpKtuAwrAzehD9lg0w= > =jW6R > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" As for the first issue, ill take a look a see what im actually dealing with. Like i said, i'm working clang/llvm for illumos but that's an entirely different beast. I have access to quite a lot of sparc gear. V215, T1000, T5120, M4000, E6K, Netra X1, and a few more. I don't mind hosting a couple of them if anyone in interested in doing some work on them.
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