From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 12 09:44:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673AE16A4CE for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:44:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFA043D3F for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:44:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) j2C9j0b76057; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 01:45:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Bart Silverstrim" Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 01:44:52 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 Importance: Normal cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: how to deal with spam for good? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:44:57 -0000 owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > On Mar 11, 2005, at 1:37 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Kirk >>> Strauser Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:42 AM >>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: how to deal with spam for good? >>> >> >>> You know, I'm no longer sure that's true. I think that spam will >>> stick around as long as stupid business owners continue to get >>> suckered into thinking that it's a legitimate means of marketing. >>> One of my associate's customers (a brick and mortar store) was >>> being sweet-talked by a spammer into sending a series of >>> broadcasts. In this situation, the spammer would profit off the >>> ignorance of that *business owner*. Even if 100% of the messages >>> were blocked, he'd still get his pay for performing the "service". >> >> Didn't anyone tell your associate's customers that spamming is now >> a felony? And, even if they hire a spammer to do it for them, the >> law still prosecutes them for the spamming? > > Add some teeth to that law and some lawyers who are willing to pursue > this in volume, and you'd be on to something. As it stands, it's like > prosecuting jaywalkers. Who bothers? > http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2004/11/03/ap1631798.html%E2%80%9D%20 target= (although while the judge did set aside the verdict for DeGroot, Jayne's appeal of his conviction went nowhere) Keep in mind these are the very first convictions on this. Once the appeals process is exhausted then we will have set some precident, which is vitally important for these to go forward on a large scale. > Even junk faxer's get away with that kind of crap despite the fines > (happened to catch Tom Martino on the radio yesterday talking about > it...) > That is only because these days most people handling received faxes for companies are lazy and dumb "administrative assistants" who don't even know it's illegal or who to complain to. Ted > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"