From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 19 14:51:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0118216A41F for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:51:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.freestylefund.com [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A301343D45 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:51:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1EdU49-000Hmz-Ni; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 07:51:46 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 07:51:45 -0700 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: [summary] Apple intel transition (was: Re: Status of 6.0 forproduction systems) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:51:47 -0000 On Nov 19, 2005, at 5:19 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chad >> Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC >> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:27 PM >> To: Free BSD Questions list >> Subject: [summary] Apple intel transition (was: Re: Status of >> 6.0 forproduction systems) >> > >> and so most upgrades >> will happen on the normal HW upgrade cycle that an particular Mac >> user follows. > > So, since your the expert on this, what is the "normal HW upgrade > cycle"? Whatever cycle people use to buy new machines. Most people or groups have cycles they follow (even if it is not something they realize they do). For some, there is a written policy. For others it is driven by budgets. For others, when the old machine starts to feel long in the tooth. For a small minority it is every new generation (the early adopters and techno geeks). > > I suppose all Mac users follow the same upgrade cycle, huh. For each person or group it may be different. Some may do it every 18 months, some every 2-3 years, some every 3-4 years. > >> Chad >> most of whose Macs are built from parts from eBay and parts shops and >> PC parts [total 3 Macs in the last 3 years -- personal and business >> owned], though he does have 3 original purchased Macs from Apple >> since 1998 [all business owned], 1 of which has been passed on to >> others. > > Hmm - so your own upgrade cycle is what, 8 years? From 1998 to 2005? ???? I upgraded to a G5, because of business and tax reasons. My personal upgrade cycle is when I can afford it. Sometimes it is 2 years, sometimes 4 or 5. Some older machines are still used for side tasks like the original Bondi Blue 233mhz iMac (running OS X now), which is used by the family for email etc. Some older technology based machines (the eBay built ones) are 5 year old motherboards etc with new PC parts because I can get a machine much less expensively than buying a new one and I have a certain need. Like needing to run OS X Server for some customers and not wanting to buy an XServe since the customers are not paying for that. > Or were you gonna keep those original Macs longer than this year? > > So, Apple is going to be supporting PPC for another 8 years, then. > OK. Could be. I would guess at least 3-4 years after the last PPC based machine stops being part of Apple's line up. We are at least a year from that point and probably more like 2. That may not quite add up to 8 years but it probably adds up to 5-7 years. We'll see... Chad > > Ted > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net