From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 20:42:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14D4086C for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 20:42:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from fly.radel.com (fly.radel.com [70.184.242.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D78CA3 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 20:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.18.5 (ClamAV engine v0.98.5) Received: from [2001:470:880a:4389:58ff:2215:f3fd:80e1] (account jon@radel.com HELO gravenstein.local) by radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.11 _community_) with ESMTPSA id 666454; Wed, 27 May 2015 20:42:30 +0000 Message-ID: <55662C35.4000802@radel.com> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 16:42:29 -0400 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Baho Utot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 10.1 + ZFS References: <5563939F.2070303@columbus.rr.com>, <86oal8gu30.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <5563A6E0.4010402@columbus.rr.com> <86382kgoi8.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>, <20150526030812.8e749982.freebsd@edvax.de>, <20150526034748.GA1674@WorkBox.Home>, <5564E1CE.2040700@columbus.rr.com> <5564E6F5.1090306@radel.com>, <5564EF07.2080603@columbus.rr.com> <20150527000713.GA3257@WorkBox.Home>, <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <55661AA5.9030403@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040500000207090308070309" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 20:42:33 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040500000207090308070309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/27/15 3:27 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > > I do understand how ZFS works I am using it (ZFS RAID-Z1) on three=20 > boxen but not as the root file system. > > > > You cannot do RAID-Z2 with three drives only as RAID-Z2 has two parity = > drives You either contradict yourself or you have a shaky understanding of the=20 word "cannot". Not recommended, quite possibly not the best way to use=20 3 disks, sure.... Cannot, well, not so much. Personally, I think this discussion might have gotten off to a much=20 better start if you'd started out by telling us that you couldn't use=20 the installer because you weren't in a position to use your entire=20 disks; all of which is entirely absent in your initial mail. Several people have now given you links to various cookbooks for doing=20 what I understand you want to do, or more precisely, as close as=20 anything published is likely to be to meeting your exact needs. Pick one = and see how it goes. I'd suggest really good backups first. --Jon Radel jon@radel.com --------------ms040500000207090308070309 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKrzCC BK8wggOXoAMCAQICEQDgI8sVEoNTia1hbnpUZ2shMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMG8xCzAJBgNV BAYTAlNFMRQwEgYDVQQKEwtBZGRUcnVzdCBBQjEmMCQGA1UECxMdQWRkVHJ1c3QgRXh0ZXJu YWwgVFRQIE5ldHdvcmsxIjAgBgNVBAMTGUFkZFRydXN0IEV4dGVybmFsIENBIFJvb3QwHhcN MTQxMjIyMDAwMDAwWhcNMjAwNTMwMTA0ODM4WjCBmzELMAkGA1UEBhMCR0IxGzAZBgNVBAgT EkdyZWF0ZXIgTWFuY2hlc3RlcjEQMA4GA1UEBxMHU2FsZm9yZDEaMBgGA1UEChMRQ09NT0RP IENBIExpbWl0ZWQxQTA/BgNVBAMTOENPTU9ETyBTSEEtMjU2IENsaWVudCBBdXRoZW50aWNh dGlvbiBhbmQgU2VjdXJlIEVtYWlsIENBMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKC AQEAibEN2npTGU5wUh28VqYGJre4SeCW51Gr8fBaE0kVo7SMG2C8elFCp3mMpCLfF2FOkdV2 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