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Date:      Sun, 3 Sep 2000 04:02:55 +0100
From:      Ben Smithurst <ben@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Galt <galt@inconnu.isu.edu>
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Why not XEmacs, after all?
Message-ID:  <20000903040255.T72445@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0009021706070.22061-100000@inconnu.isu.edu>
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John Galt wrote:

>> 4.0 is 4.0, it won't suddenly change.  Ever.  If you want to use ports,
>> cvsup the latest ports tree and you will get no such error.
> 
> And this somehow makes lynx non-deprecated then?

Yes.  Lynx *was* deprecated, if you like, in 4.0-RELEASE, but a release
is a snapshot of a single point in time, and 4.0 isn't even the latest
release.  Though I still think deprecated doesn't seem like the right
word.

> It's not available "out of the box" in a major version release, this
> is a result of a policy decision, therefore it may be said that it's
> deprecated until such a time as it can be proven that the policy no
> longer is in force: one datum is not enough proof in this case,

Check with the CVS repository.  Is that good enough proof for you?

The lynx port has existed for well over five years, and was marked as
unusable for a period of just six weeks which ended over four months
ago.  I think that's enough proof.

> So is 4.0 frozen or dynamic?

4.0-RELEASE is a single snapshot from the RELENG_4 branch, as with any
release.  So, "frozen" would seem a suitable description, although it
normally means something else in the FreeBSD world.

> Or are you not running 4.0 after the first cvs update?

Well, if you'd cvsupped RELENG_4 sometime between the times when 4.0 and
4.1 were released, and build a world and a kernel from those sources,
you would have been running a system claiming to be 4.0, but it would be
4.0-STABLE, not the 4.0-RELEASE which I presume you are talking about.

-- 
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