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Date:      Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:18:06 +0100
From:      Nils Holland <nils@tisys.org>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.ORG>, Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@blarg.net>, hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, "Brandon D. Valentine" <bandix@looksharp.net>, Hiten Pandya <hitmaster2k@yahoo.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Subject:   Re: IBM's intentions with JFS (was: IBM suing (was: RMS Suing was [SUGGESTION] - JFS for FreeBSD))
Message-ID:  <20011217201806.A48114@tisys.org>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011217092958.0299fdf0@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 09:33:29AM -0700
References:  <3C1875D6.5DE4F996@mindspring.com> <3C186381.6AB07090@yahoo.com> <20011214122837.O3448@monorchid.lemis.com> <3C19807D.C441F084@mindspring.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011214175450.02da2a90@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011215232233.00e74cc0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011216221810.031b6820@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011217001345.00e26280@localhost> <20011217185738.N14500@monorchid.lemis.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20011217092958.0299fdf0@localhost>

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On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 09:33:29AM -0700, Brett Glass stood up and spoke:
> 
> FreeBSD is in serious trouble unless it expunges ALL GPLed code from
> the distribution and especially from the kernel.

Well, I don't like the GPL any more than you do and I see the problems that
have been described. But, at this point, I guess totally removing (and
replacing) all GPL code from the *entire* distribution is impossible. Do
you have, for example, any suggestions with what we should replace GCC
*without* breaking anything (current FreeBSD sources, as well as our stuff
in the ports collection?)

I guess getting rid of all GPL stuff in the entire distribution is not
neccessary - I don't see any potential threat by us shipping GCC for
example (though I don't know of some GPL purist couldn't come up with a
reason why just shipping GCC at some point or another puts our entire
system under the GPL...). However, I think that the kernel is of more
danger here, because any GPL code would have to be linked directly into it,
thus potentially putting it under the GPL as a whole (just including gcc
into our distribution set probably doesn't have any such implications for
our system). However, generally, I would agree that we should keep
especially the kernel GPL free, and in the rest of the system try to
minimize GPL code as much as possible.

Just my $.02

Greetings
Nils


-- 
Nils Holland
Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany
http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org

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