From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 27 20:57:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0A416A59E for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jr@opal.com) Received: from smtp.vzavenue.net (smtp.vzavenue.net [66.171.59.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0999044654 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:09:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jr@opal.com) Received: from 118.79.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net (HELO linwhf.opal.com) ([66.171.79.118]) by smtp.vzavenue.net with ESMTP; 27 Jun 2006 11:09:14 -0400 X-REPUTATION: -0.7 X-REMOTE-IP: 66.171.79.118 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="4.06,182,1149480000"; d="scan'208"; a="39144645:sNHT18925317" Received: from linwhf.opal.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by linwhf.opal.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5RF9EkG056903; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:09:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jr@opal.com) Received: from 127.0.0.1 ([127.0.0.1] helo=linwhf.opal.com) by ASSP-nospam; 27 Jun 2006 11:09:14 -0400 Received: (from jr@localhost) by linwhf.opal.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k5RF9Dvn056902; Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:09:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jr) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:09:13 -0400 From: "J.R. Oldroyd" To: Alexander Leidinger Message-ID: <20060627150913.GD45513@linwhf.opal.com> References: <6eb82e0606091906j7d9f69aarcf1f9738c7565677@mail.gmail.com> <20060625221640.GI48766@linwhf.opal.com> <20060626014939.GA74292@over-yonder.net> <20060626160245.GM48766@linwhf.opal.com> <20060627131313.2lvy38lg08kwo008@netchild.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="t0UkRYy7tHLRMCai" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060627131313.2lvy38lg08kwo008@netchild.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unicode (was Re: Updating ncurses in base) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:57:13 -0000 --t0UkRYy7tHLRMCai Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Jun 27, 13:13, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > > - we may need to update the base fonts so that more > > iso10646 ones have more complete character support >=20 > If there's not a BSD licensed replacement with at least the same =20 > quality, this may be the hardest part. >=20 I believe our 10646 fonts are those developed my Markus Kuhn at Cambridge, UK and documented here: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs-fonts.html I'm not sure if ours are up-to-date or not. > > - utf-8 will have to be made the default character > > encoding in startup scripts for the various utilities > > and ports that are affected >=20 > Why? The start scripts are written in english and I doubt we will =20 > start to use translated ones. So all they use is/should be 7-bit =20 > clean. Wy do we need to make UTF-8 the default for them? If someone =20 > wants to use UTF-8, he can set the locale accordingly, but for the =20 > rest of the system I don't see a point in switching. >=20 Perhaps I wasn't clear with this comment. What I meant was that defaults for tools like the apache web server will need to change. Since apache can serve text and html files which users will edit with their editor and which will therefore now contain UTF-8-encoded characters, apache's default will also need to be UTF-8. Same for things like cups/groff and any other tool/server that processes files which might contain 8-bit characters and which care about the encoding. -jr --t0UkRYy7tHLRMCai Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iQDVAwUBRKFKGUkkqUax7f6FAQKtQgX9G2VTZLzwhpojUPsO4scR8D3JzuoorjZH unF+jxZiJpzMA8jK5rOFTpMt/RuhkqLEyKzFmZgBRME+sHBqSut+LEjwDZqzORG7 8/jWogl0JB554LenHKia9Qrv62j/wcqaMVEVnXq2rcYdtRz1JmPC6gXvw3zq12ui v8xdREDL6PvVuKDIPRq6Gpqs3V3kQdtImX+OJ+W+QwrNYbRzwUmWr4iTUE40sIvD ZK9EjmYVNNDcSP3fmSQf+PK0eYymAfBY =ctah -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --t0UkRYy7tHLRMCai--