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Date:      Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:08:23 +0300
From:      Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
Cc:        cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, alfred@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, deischen@freebsd.org, yar@comp.chem.msu.su, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/gen fts-compat.c fts-compat.h
Message-ID:  <20070827150823.GO2332@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
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On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 04:26:55PM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> Quoting Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org> (from Mon, 27 Aug 2007 =20
> 15:56:25 +0200):
>=20
> >On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 08:50:19AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
>=20
> >Folks running -current are also committers that use -current to test as
> >much as they can, but also to use it for day-to-day work. Isn't it why
> >we have perforce and other policies, so that -current can be stable and
> >usable? If we have tools that can help -current users to use the system
> >smoothly, I'm all for using them. I can't imagine taking yet another two
> >days and reinstalling all ports, just because -current users are not
>=20
> Only 2 days? Lucky you, I'm just through a complete recompile of every =
=20
> port after the gcc 4.2.1 import (unluckily 4.2.1 doesn't fix all known =
=20
> bugs) just to be on the safe side, and a complete recompile after the =20
> gcc 4.2.0 import... and it takes nearly a week on my machine.
>=20
> >important. Of course -current users know how to deal with things like
> >this, but that doesn't mean they have to if there is another way.
> >The more surprises like that one, the less -current users we will have,
> >which means the less testing.
> >If there will be a need for me to reinstall all the ports I'll choose
> >not to upgrade or downgrade to 6.x...
>=20
> So the really important thing for you is: How many ports are affected =20
> by this change?
>=20
> Does anyone have an estimate for this?
>=20
> If not, does someone has an exhaustive list of affected symbols? I can =
=20
> write a short script which has a look into each installed port to =20
> determine if it is affected or not (based upon the assumption that you =
=20
> don't mind if we overlook a few things... I'm not sure if statically =20
> linked binaries contain enough information).

Statically linked binaries should be not affected. I think that the
symbols has names starting with fts_, see fts(3).

The proposed script would be very handy, I muttered myself about writing
such thing, depending on the outcome on the discussion. Anyway, I mostly
keep the RELENG_6-built ports in the chroot and use them, instead of
HEAD-built.

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