From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Aug 17 7:40:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from web1005.mail.yahoo.com (web1005.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABEBE14E60 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:40:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvmcg@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990817143812.20033.rocketmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.71.110.100] by web1005.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:38:12 PDT Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:38:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian McGroarty Reply-To: brian@pobox.com Subject: Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite To: Warner Losh Cc: Terry Lambert , Vince Vielhaber , Hackers@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Warner Losh wrote: > In message > <19990816164048.28824.rocketmail@web1001.mail.yahoo.com> > Brian McGroarty writes: > : So do the old and new Playstation models. The MIPS core is > : being manufactured by several companies: IDT alone has > : something like a dozen variants available with and without > : MMU, FP, 5000 vs 10000 core, etc. and is in far wider use > : than in just PCs and gaming consoles. I doubt if SGI > : machines abandoning MIPS processors would put much of a dent > : in MIPS' profitability. > > NEC also makes about a dozen. Although they aren't stupid > enough to make any without MMUs :-) I really don't like the > IDT 4650, can you tell... If you think that's bad, try writing 3D games on the MIPS without a MMU, FPU or a data cache. Welcome to Playstation programming. Admittedly it's got a direct-mapped scratchpad where you can drop temporary data and some really esoteric low-precision fixed-point matrix operators, but it's never -quite- what you're looking for. My last Playstation title saw upward of fifteen hundred lines of tightly tuned assembly before all the special effects were up to 60fps again. The Lego Racers team have had an average of one and a half programmers tuning their rendering engine for over a year now. I think at this point they're assembly from the BSP traversal on down. Next project's Windows, Playstation 2 and FreeBSD/Linux internally at the least. I'm finally a happy camper. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message