Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:04:13 +0100 From: Doug Rabson <dfr@rabson.org> To: Bruce M. Simpson <bms@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.include.dist BSD.usr.dist src/include Makefile src/lib Makefile src/lib/libatm Makefile atm_addr.c cache_key.c ioctl_subr.c ip_addr.c ip_checksum.c libatm.h timer.c src/rescue/rescue Makefile src/sbin/atm Makefile ... Message-ID: <3C07B635-67F6-4EAD-A10F-D5AA4365FFEF@rabson.org> In-Reply-To: <4839F77C.60306@FreeBSD.org> References: <200805252211.m4PMBgEU052231@repoman.freebsd.org> <4839E7A8.5050205@FreeBSD.org> <alpine.LSU.1.10.0805260018250.20676@hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk> <4839F77C.60306@FreeBSD.org>
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On 26 May 2008, at 00:34, Bruce M. Simpson wrote: > Tony Finch wrote: >> On Sun, 25 May 2008, Bruce M. Simpson wrote: >> >>> ATM shows no signs of going away as a WAN access technology for >>> people in the >>> UK, although its use in the core outside of British Telecom is >>> being eroded by >>> newer technologies. >>> >> >> Doesn't BT's 21cn mean the death of ATM there too? >> > > The G.998.1 part of ADSL2+ still mandates ATM as the transport. > Given how BT tend to roll things it out I would speculate that they > are still using ATM after 21CN migration, although I have no data to > confirm this either way. > > PPPoA is not going away any time soon -- it's written into the ITU > specs for G.DMT-lite after all -- and there is a huge installed user > base for that technology. > > Whatever happens with 21CN is still going to take time to filter > down to the rest of the populace. Also, someone's going to have to > pay for it somehow. > > Of course the whole ruckus over ATM in ADSL with people in the first > place, was that it locked them into using vendor gear, effectively > denying people control over their own IP endpoint address, and > restricting the services they can use as a result. I recently was able to reclaim my IP endpoint address(es) using a cheap Netgear DM111P in PPPoE to PPPoA bridge mode. Works very nicely...
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