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Date:      Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:13:54 +0100
From:      Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net>
To:        Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu>
Cc:        Bill Moran <wmoran@mail.iowna.com>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: This is not a re-opening of the shell wars.. :)
Message-ID:  <20010119221354.D964@raggedclown.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.10.10101191112480.7762-100000@breakout.gpcc.itd.umich.edu>; from timcm@umich.edu on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 11:23:56AM -0500
References:  <3A6854F2.56FAD573@mail.iowna.com> <Pine.SOL.4.10.10101191112480.7762-100000@breakout.gpcc.itd.umich.edu>

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On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 11:23:56AM -0500, Tim McMillen wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Bill Moran wrote:
> 
> > Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> > > It occurred to me that everyone uses the shell to a greater
> > > or lesser extent and since it is such a fundamental tool maybe
> > > it is worth saying in the front page blurb on FreeBSD that it supports
> > > all popular shells, sh,ksh,csh,tcsh,bash..even zsh.
> > 
> > Wouldn't hurt.
> 
> I think putting it on the main page would.  That's precious space!  :)
> 
> > > The first thing I did when I loaded BSD was to find "bash", I just
> > > assumed it would have it. People with a Linux background will certainly
> > > miss it; and maybe not have the investigative zeal to find it.
> > 
> > That's amazing to me. Because:
> > 1. Anyone with any UN*X experience whatsoever would know that you can
> > install other shells.
> > 2. Anyone who wouldn't know they could install other shells wouldn't
> > know they were missing anything.
> > 
> > Apparently there are a few people in the middle. I would suppose that
> > there's very few. 
> 
> 	I would have to agree here.  I can't believe that there are more
> than 2-3 people a month that know enough about their favorite shell to
> need it, but not to know how to install or run it on whatever system they
> are on.  Or many that would even know or be able to tell the
> differences between the shells, and not know that or be able to find it.
> 	I think there is especially too few people in that situation to
> warrant putting something on the main page.  Besides it's in the FAQ at:
> http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/book.html#MINIMAL-SH
> Now that could certainly be improved with instructions for how to install
> bash (or any other shell in /usr/port/shells).   And maybe there could be
> a FAQ entry for how to run other shells.
> 	Cliff, since you have expressed an interest, you may just be the
> person to write that FAQ entry.  :-)  I think a FAQ entry would be the
> perfect place to explain this.
> 
Mmm.. I asked for that didn't I .. lol.
I always wanted my name in lights.
We will see.

Cliff
> 						Tim
> 
> 
> I'd be more inclined to assume that he was making up
> > an excuse not to like FreeBSD. I've seen people do this a lot, it's just
> > an excuse to cover up the fact that they didn't want to like it to begin
> > with 
> 
> agreed.
> 
> > - somebody probably pushed him into trying it when he didn't want
> > to, and he used it just long enough to find an excuse to report back to
> > the pusher.
> > If I'm right, the solution is to not push people into things they don't
> > want to try. If I'm wrong, then just ignore my babbling.
> > 
> > just my $.02
> > 
> > -Bill
> > 
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