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Date:      Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:59:12 +1030
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Daniel O'Connor <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
Cc:        Kenneth Culver <culverk@yumyumyum.org>, Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org>, "Wilkinson,Alex" <Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Disk reliability (was: Tagged Command Queuing or Larger Cache ?)
Message-ID:  <20021030002912.GB74811@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <1035857031.77698.57.camel@chowder.localdomain>
References:  <20021028205222.G61008-100000@alpha.yumyumyum.org> <1035857031.77698.57.camel@chowder.localdomain>

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On Tuesday, 29 October 2002 at  2:03:50 +0000, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 01:54, Kenneth Culver wrote:
>>> I haven't had any trouble with the WDxxxBB drives - the WDxxxAA drives
>>> are pretty unreliable though.
>>>
>> Hrmm, I havn't tried those, but just about every WD drive I've used has
>> ended up with problems which were of course handled by the warranty, but
>> even then, I still had to reinstall the os and pull a bunch of stuff from
>> my backups which was a pain to do for each failure. Like I said, just my
>> personal experience. I don't think the new 8MB cache drives have been out
>> long enough to actually develop the problems I've seen on WD drives
>> though.
>
> Yes, but my point is that the AA drives are bad, but the BB drives seem
> good. I have been using them for a while (~1 year) without trouble.

I've had trouble with BB drives.  Given that they have (or had) a 3
year warranty, 1 year of experience isn't very much to go by.

> Personally I find that no HD manufacturer has a good reputation -
> they have all made trashy drives at one point. Give the general time
> it takes for problems to surface vs product lifetimes makes deciding
> what to buy a PITA :(

That's a more valid point.

Note that WD and Seagate have dropped their warranty on IDE drives
from 3 years to 1 year.  What does this say to you?

Greg
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