From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 30 03:06:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04789 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 03:06:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ti01a23-0033.dialup.online.no (ti01a23-0033.dialup.online.no [130.67.10.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04768 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 03:06:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zerium@webindex.no) Received: from localhost (zerium@localhost) by ti01a23-0033.dialup.online.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA00825; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:03:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from zerium@webindex.no) X-Authentication-Warning: ti01a23-0033.dialup.online.no: zerium owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:03:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Hans Petter Bieker X-Sender: zerium@ti01a23-0033.dialup.online.no To: Jose Marques cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86 3.3.2 permissions? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 Aug 1998, Jose Marques wrote: > A long long time ago I tried Xdm but the "login.conf" stuff did not appear > to work with it. Has this changed? If so, I'll give it a go. the xdm in the port collection does everything except setting the environment variables as you defined in login.conf. kdm (KDE xdm) doesn't have this problem. -bieker- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 30 16:55:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23619 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 16:55:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outcast.media-net.net (outcast.media-net.net [206.52.136.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23605 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 16:55:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisj@outcast.media-net.net) Received: from localhost (chrisj@localhost) by outcast.media-net.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA27850 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 18:58:18 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chrisj@outcast.media-net.net) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 18:58:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: wuftp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG after installing wu_ftpd today i've noticed that the logging doesn't seem to be working. i've started the ftpd from inetd.conf with the -l -l options and restarted with no luck. Also the ftpwho command isn't showing people as logged in when i know poeple are. Have i missed an option that must be specifed in inetd? I've tried the -a option that is mentioned in the INSTALL file, but with this option all login attempts fail and show a error of -a illegle address. Thanks chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 30 17:59:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00226 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 17:59:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from SchematiX.net (schematix.net [24.234.31.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00216 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 17:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Received: from localhost (scott@localhost) by SchematiX.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA00284; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 17:55:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 17:55:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott To: Chris cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wuftp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am having the exact same problems. I even spent 12 hours yesterday investigating any problems but i was unable to find anything. I have recompiled wu-ftpd several times and installed the binary from the ports, without success. The system worked fine when i was using 2.2.6-R but since i moved to -stable, it hasn't been working. On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Chris wrote: > after installing wu_ftpd today i've noticed that the logging doesn't seem > to be working. i've started the ftpd from inetd.conf with the -l -l > options and restarted with no luck. Also the ftpwho command isn't showing > people as logged in when i know poeple are. Have i missed an option that > must be specifed in inetd? I've tried the -a option that is mentioned in > the INSTALL file, but with this option all login attempts fail and show a > error of -a illegle address. > > > > Thanks > > > chris > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 30 19:31:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07973 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 19:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from natsoft.com.au (natsoft.com.au [203.39.138.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07961 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 19:31:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@natsoft.com.au) Received: from Win95.natsoft.com.au (Win95 [203.39.138.131]) by natsoft.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA00437 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:33:51 GMT Message-ID: <35EA0A4B.7744@natsoft.com.au> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:28:27 +1000 From: Craig Wilson Organization: National Software Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CAM For 2.2.7-RELEASE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have 2.2.7-RELEASE CDROM and a computer with an Adaptec AIC-7895P on the mother board. From looking at the mailing lists etc I found that CAM is required to use this chip. I found ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/2.2CAM-19980716-SNAP.diffs Could anyone please tell me if this can be applied safely to the 2.2.7-RELEASE. Thanking you in advance. Regards Craig Wilson National Software Pty Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 30 21:29:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21217 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:29:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mynet.ml.org (cr612197-a.wlfdle1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.74.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21198 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:29:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ihuang@mynet.ml.org) Received: from localhost (ihuang@localhost) by mynet.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id AAA20234; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 00:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 00:32:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Ian Huang To: Scott cc: Chris , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wuftp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check to see if you have these lines in your /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess. Check the man page for more infomation on the 'log' option. log commands real,anonymous,guest log transfers anonymous,real,guest inbound,outbound -- Ian Huang ihuang@mynet.ml.org On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Scott wrote: > I am having the exact same problems. I even spent 12 hours yesterday > investigating any problems but i was unable to find anything. I have > recompiled wu-ftpd several times and installed the binary from the ports, > without success. The system worked fine when i was using 2.2.6-R but since > i moved to -stable, it hasn't been working. > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Chris wrote: > > > after installing wu_ftpd today i've noticed that the logging doesn't seem > > to be working. i've started the ftpd from inetd.conf with the -l -l > > options and restarted with no luck. Also the ftpwho command isn't showing > > people as logged in when i know poeple are. Have i missed an option that > > must be specifed in inetd? I've tried the -a option that is mentioned in > > the INSTALL file, but with this option all login attempts fail and show a > > error of -a illegle address. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > chris > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 30 21:44:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23031 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:44:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from SchematiX.net (schematix.net [24.234.31.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22998 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:44:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Received: from localhost (scott@localhost) by SchematiX.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA05157; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 21:40:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott To: Ian Huang cc: Chris , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wuftp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mine has both of those lines. The biggest/most annoying problem i am having is the fact that it doesn't see logged in users and therefore i can't set an enforced userlimit. Any ideas? On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Ian Huang wrote: > Check to see if you have these lines in your /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess. > Check the man page for more infomation on the 'log' option. > > log commands real,anonymous,guest > log transfers anonymous,real,guest inbound,outbound > > -- > Ian Huang ihuang@mynet.ml.org > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Scott wrote: > > > I am having the exact same problems. I even spent 12 hours yesterday > > investigating any problems but i was unable to find anything. I have > > recompiled wu-ftpd several times and installed the binary from the ports, > > without success. The system worked fine when i was using 2.2.6-R but since > > i moved to -stable, it hasn't been working. > > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Chris wrote: > > > > > after installing wu_ftpd today i've noticed that the logging doesn't seem > > > to be working. i've started the ftpd from inetd.conf with the -l -l > > > options and restarted with no luck. Also the ftpwho command isn't showing > > > people as logged in when i know poeple are. Have i missed an option that > > > must be specifed in inetd? I've tried the -a option that is mentioned in > > > the INSTALL file, but with this option all login attempts fail and show a > > > error of -a illegle address. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 30 22:29:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26117 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:29:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outcast.media-net.net (outcast.media-net.net [206.52.136.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26112 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 1998 22:29:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisj@outcast.media-net.net) Received: from localhost (chrisj@localhost) by outcast.media-net.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA00634; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 00:32:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chrisj@outcast.media-net.net) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 00:32:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris To: Ian Huang cc: Scott , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wuftp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yes i do have these entries in /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess. this is the same config file that was in use under 2.2.1-release On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Ian Huang wrote: > Check to see if you have these lines in your /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess. > Check the man page for more infomation on the 'log' option. > > log commands real,anonymous,guest > log transfers anonymous,real,guest inbound,outbound > > -- > Ian Huang ihuang@mynet.ml.org > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Scott wrote: > > > I am having the exact same problems. I even spent 12 hours yesterday > > investigating any problems but i was unable to find anything. I have > > recompiled wu-ftpd several times and installed the binary from the ports, > > without success. The system worked fine when i was using 2.2.6-R but since > > i moved to -stable, it hasn't been working. > > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Chris wrote: > > > > > after installing wu_ftpd today i've noticed that the logging doesn't seem > > > to be working. i've started the ftpd from inetd.conf with the -l -l > > > options and restarted with no luck. Also the ftpwho command isn't showing > > > people as logged in when i know poeple are. Have i missed an option that > > > must be specifed in inetd? I've tried the -a option that is mentioned in > > > the INSTALL file, but with this option all login attempts fail and show a > > > error of -a illegle address. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 08:34:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05745 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:34:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mynet.ml.org (cr612197-a.wlfdle1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.74.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05740 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:34:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ihuang@mynet.ml.org) Received: from localhost (ihuang@localhost) by mynet.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA21754; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:37:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Ian Huang To: Scott cc: Chris , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wuftp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You also have to add the '-a' option to the line in inetd.conf. According to the man page: If the -a option is specified, the use of the ftpaccess(5) configuration file is enabled. -- Ian Huang ihuang@mynet.ml.org On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Ian Huang wrote: > Check to see if you have these lines in your /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess. > Check the man page for more infomation on the 'log' option. > > log commands real,anonymous,guest > log transfers anonymous,real,guest inbound,outbound > > -- > Ian Huang ihuang@mynet.ml.org > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Scott wrote: > > > I am having the exact same problems. I even spent 12 hours yesterday > > investigating any problems but i was unable to find anything. I have > > recompiled wu-ftpd several times and installed the binary from the ports, > > without success. The system worked fine when i was using 2.2.6-R but since > > i moved to -stable, it hasn't been working. > > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Chris wrote: > > > > > after installing wu_ftpd today i've noticed that the logging doesn't seem > > > to be working. i've started the ftpd from inetd.conf with the -l -l > > > options and restarted with no luck. Also the ftpwho command isn't showing > > > people as logged in when i know poeple are. Have i missed an option that > > > must be specifed in inetd? I've tried the -a option that is mentioned in > > > the INSTALL file, but with this option all login attempts fail and show a > > > error of -a illegle address. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 10:53:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26497 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:53:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26491 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 10:53:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jer@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA17301; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:52:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:52:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: Yoav Cohen-Sivan cc: Scott , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.7 and user PPP lockups In-Reply-To: <35E2E8EB.1A0F5405@netvision.net.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You should have posted this to the -questions list. Brian (the maintainer) always jumps to answer user ppp questions. He'll probably ask you to turn on logging and include the result in a follow-up post. :) On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: > Scott wrote: > > > > Check the timeout portion of the ppp.conf file. Its possible that you are > > hitting the time limit and its booting you off. Just make sure timeout is > > set to 0. > > > > I explicitly set my timeout to 0. I just experienced this again, only > this time it was something like 2-3 minutes after connecting. ps -ax > shows that PPP is S+. This is wierd, since at the same time one window > shows it at S state I can type in commands to the PPP program in > another. > I am going to try kernel PPP as someone suggested and see if this makes > a difference. > > I have also received a few e-mails from other people experiencing this. > If anyone else is seeing this, send me a note and I'll try to get > something ready for the maintainer. > > Yoav > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -===================================================================- Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet Senior Technical Support Northwest Indiana's Premium jer@jorsm.com Internet Service Provider support@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com -===================================================================- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 15:08:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12692 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12672; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:08:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id PAA18113; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:07:04 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199808312207.PAA18113@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver To: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (Bill Paul) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:07:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: chad@dcfinc.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199808291923.PAA01095@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> from Bill Paul at "Aug 29, 98 03:23:48 pm" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Okay people, it's been some time since I put the xl0 driver in > -current and -stable. I need to know if people are having problems > with the driver or not. So far I've gotten startlingly little > feedback. This either means that it's working so well that nobody has > had any trouble with it, or you guys are all just slackers and are too > lazy to speak up. Well, this was interesting. Bill talked me into trying to build his driver into my kernel. But first (taking baby steps) I cvsup'd -stable again, and rebuilt the world. Then I build a new kernel. Just to make sure that if anything broke, I wouldn't be blaming Bill. Glorioski! No network! The new kernel, supped as of Aug 25, no longer saw my vx0 device. In fact, it didn't even probe for it. The date on ../sys/pci/if_vx_pci.c is Aug 24th. Coincidence? So my choice was to try to fall back to a prior kernel and figure out what got broken, or to march onward. I chose the latter. I edited my kernel config file to change "device vx0" to "device xl0", edited /etc/rc.conf to change "vx" references to "xl". Then rebuilt the kernel and rebooted. As you can tell, I'm back on the net. But has anyone chased down what happened to the vx driver? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 15:44:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19819 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:44:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from SchematiX.net (schematix.net [24.234.31.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19813 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:44:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Received: from localhost (scott@localhost) by SchematiX.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA08238; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:40:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:40:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott To: Ian Huang cc: Chris , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wuftp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well that did it...all that time :) On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Ian Huang wrote: > You also have to add the '-a' option to the line in inetd.conf. According > to the man page: > > If the -a option is specified, the use of the ftpaccess(5) > configuration file is enabled. > > > -- > Ian Huang ihuang@mynet.ml.org > > On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Ian Huang wrote: > > > Check to see if you have these lines in your /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess. > > Check the man page for more infomation on the 'log' option. > > > > log commands real,anonymous,guest > > log transfers anonymous,real,guest inbound,outbound > > > > -- > > Ian Huang ihuang@mynet.ml.org > > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Scott wrote: > > > > > I am having the exact same problems. I even spent 12 hours yesterday > > > investigating any problems but i was unable to find anything. I have > > > recompiled wu-ftpd several times and installed the binary from the ports, > > > without success. The system worked fine when i was using 2.2.6-R but since > > > i moved to -stable, it hasn't been working. > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Chris wrote: > > > > > > > after installing wu_ftpd today i've noticed that the logging doesn't seem > > > > to be working. i've started the ftpd from inetd.conf with the -l -l > > > > options and restarted with no luck. Also the ftpwho command isn't showing > > > > people as logged in when i know poeple are. Have i missed an option that > > > > must be specifed in inetd? I've tried the -a option that is mentioned in > > > > the INSTALL file, but with this option all login attempts fail and show a > > > > error of -a illegle address. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 15:59:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23201 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:59:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outcast.media-net.net (outcast.media-net.net [206.52.136.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23173 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:59:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisj@outcast.media-net.net) Received: from localhost (chrisj@localhost) by outcast.media-net.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA01711; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:01:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chrisj@outcast.media-net.net) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:01:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris To: Scott cc: Ian Huang , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wuftp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG with this entry in inetd.conf ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -a -l -l and this enty for logging in the ftpaccess file log commands real log transfers anonymous,real inbound,outbound a kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid` this is what is returned from the ftpd when someone tries to log in /home/chrisj> ftp outcast.media-net.net Connected to outcast.media-net.net. ftpd: invalid address for -a ftp> ls Not connected. ftp> bye /home/chrisj> On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Scott wrote: > well that did it...all that time :) > > On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Ian Huang wrote: > > > You also have to add the '-a' option to the line in inetd.conf. According > > to the man page: > > > > If the -a option is specified, the use of the ftpaccess(5) > > configuration file is enabled. > > > > > > -- > > Ian Huang ihuang@mynet.ml.org > > > > On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Ian Huang wrote: > > > > > Check to see if you have these lines in your /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess. > > > Check the man page for more infomation on the 'log' option. > > > > > > log commands real,anonymous,guest > > > log transfers anonymous,real,guest inbound,outbound > > > > > > -- > > > Ian Huang ihuang@mynet.ml.org > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Scott wrote: > > > > > > > I am having the exact same problems. I even spent 12 hours yesterday > > > > investigating any problems but i was unable to find anything. I have > > > > recompiled wu-ftpd several times and installed the binary from the ports, > > > > without success. The system worked fine when i was using 2.2.6-R but since > > > > i moved to -stable, it hasn't been working. > > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Chris wrote: > > > > > > > > > after installing wu_ftpd today i've noticed that the logging doesn't seem > > > > > to be working. i've started the ftpd from inetd.conf with the -l -l > > > > > options and restarted with no luck. Also the ftpwho command isn't showing > > > > > people as logged in when i know poeple are. Have i missed an option that > > > > > must be specifed in inetd? I've tried the -a option that is mentioned in > > > > > the INSTALL file, but with this option all login attempts fail and show a > > > > > error of -a illegle address. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 16:01:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23754 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:01:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from SchematiX.net (schematix.net [24.234.31.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23591 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:00:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Received: from localhost (scott@localhost) by SchematiX.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA08291; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:57:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott To: Chris cc: Ian Huang , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wuftp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG try /usr/local/libexec/ftpd :) Thats where wu-ftpd puts itself by default. Your current inetd points to the default one. On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Chris wrote: > with this entry in inetd.conf > ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -a -l -l > > and this enty for logging in the ftpaccess file > > log commands real > log transfers anonymous,real inbound,outbound > > a kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid` > this is what is returned from the ftpd when someone tries to log in > > > /home/chrisj> ftp outcast.media-net.net > Connected to outcast.media-net.net. > ftpd: invalid address for -a > ftp> ls > Not connected. > ftp> bye > /home/chrisj> > > > On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Scott wrote: > > > well that did it...all that time :) > > > > On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Ian Huang wrote: > > > > > You also have to add the '-a' option to the line in inetd.conf. According > > > to the man page: > > > > > > If the -a option is specified, the use of the ftpaccess(5) > > > configuration file is enabled. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ian Huang ihuang@mynet.ml.org > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Ian Huang wrote: > > > > > > > Check to see if you have these lines in your /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess. > > > > Check the man page for more infomation on the 'log' option. > > > > > > > > log commands real,anonymous,guest > > > > log transfers anonymous,real,guest inbound,outbound > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Ian Huang ihuang@mynet.ml.org > > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Scott wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am having the exact same problems. I even spent 12 hours yesterday > > > > > investigating any problems but i was unable to find anything. I have > > > > > recompiled wu-ftpd several times and installed the binary from the ports, > > > > > without success. The system worked fine when i was using 2.2.6-R but since > > > > > i moved to -stable, it hasn't been working. > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Aug 1998, Chris wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > after installing wu_ftpd today i've noticed that the logging doesn't seem > > > > > > to be working. i've started the ftpd from inetd.conf with the -l -l > > > > > > options and restarted with no luck. Also the ftpwho command isn't showing > > > > > > people as logged in when i know poeple are. Have i missed an option that > > > > > > must be specifed in inetd? I've tried the -a option that is mentioned in > > > > > > the INSTALL file, but with this option all login attempts fail and show a > > > > > > error of -a illegle address. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 16:21:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28030 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:21:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calis.BlackSun.org (slip-ppp-4-198.escape.com [205.160.46.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28007 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:21:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA07094; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:20:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:20:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Don To: chad@dcfinc.com cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-Reply-To: <199808312207.PAA18113@freebie.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > As you can tell, I'm back on the net. But has anyone chased down what > happened to the vx driver? The vx0 driver was relegated to being the driver for the 509 and 595 series NIC's. The xl0 is the replacement driver for the 90X series cards and is to be used instead. All support for the 90X cards has been removed from the vx0 driver. The xl0 is a far superior driver and there is no reason to continue using the vx0. The only problem with this driver is that some ppl did not realize that it came out and did not know to change their kernels and rc.conf files. The performance has to date been flawless. -Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 16:25:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28969 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28948 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id QAA18249; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:24:32 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199808312324.QAA18249@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver To: don@calis.BlackSun.org (Don) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:24:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: chad@dcfinc.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Don at "Aug 31, 98 07:20:35 pm" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The only problem with this driver is that some ppl did not realize > that it came out and did not know to change their kernels and rc.conf > files. The performance has to date been flawless. > -Don You know, once you're knocked off the net, it's a lot harder to fix things. Perhaps some posting to -announce or -stable that the vx driver would suddenly stop working would have been in order. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 16:35:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00855 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:35:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00836; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:35:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01800; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:31:06 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808311631.QAA01800@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: chad@dcfinc.com cc: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (Bill Paul), stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:07:03 MST." <199808312207.PAA18113@freebie.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:31:06 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Glorioski! No network! The new kernel, supped as of Aug 25, no longer > saw my vx0 device. In fact, it didn't even probe for it. The date on > ../sys/pci/if_vx_pci.c is Aug 24th. Coincidence? > > So my choice was to try to fall back to a prior kernel and figure out > what got broken, or to march onward. I chose the latter. I edited my > kernel config file to change "device vx0" to "device xl0", edited > /etc/rc.conf to change "vx" references to "xl". Then rebuilt the kernel > and rebooted. > > As you can tell, I'm back on the net. But has anyone chased down what > happened to the vx driver? There can only be one driver claim a device; when the 'xl' driver was added, the 'vx' driver had to be changed to not claim the devices that were taken over. PCI drivers don't "probe for" devices; they are effectively passively triggered by the presence of the device. You won't see any noise at all from a PCI driver unless the device(s) it supports are present. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 16:44:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02754 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:44:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from foobar.franken.de (foobar.franken.de [194.94.249.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02663 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:44:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logix@foobar.franken.de) Received: (from logix@localhost) by foobar.franken.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id BAA17527; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:41:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19980901014104.05589@foobar.franken.de> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 01:41:04 +0200 From: Harold Gutch To: Chris Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wuftp References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Chris on Mon, Aug 31, 1998 at 06:01:28PM -0500 X-Organisation: BatmanSystemDistribution X-Mission: To free the world from the Penguin Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Aug 31, 1998 at 06:01:28PM -0500, Chris wrote: > with this entry in inetd.conf > ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -a -l -l > Thats the default location for the standard ftpd shipped with FreeBSD, not wu-ftpd (which is in the ports). wu-ftpd is installed to /usr/local/libexec/ftpd per default by the port. Are you sure you aren't mixing up ftpd and wu-ftpd ? -- bye, logix Sleep is an abstinence syndrome wich occurs due to lack of caffein. Wed Mar 4 04:53:33 CET 1998 #unix, ircnet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 17:46:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14367 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 17:46:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14297 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 17:45:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com) Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id SAA05493; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:38:42 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:38:42 -0600 (MDT) From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199809010038.SAA05493@narnia.plutotech.com> To: Craig Wilson cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CAM For 2.2.7-RELEASE Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: <35EA0A4B.7744@natsoft.com.au> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971204 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I found ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/2.2CAM-19980716-SNAP.diffs > Could anyone please tell me if this can be applied safely to the > 2.2.7-RELEASE. I cannot guarantee that it will work. You can install a full distribution from that location if you're leary of attempting the patch and fixing up any rejects. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 18:37:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23622 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:37:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from natsoft.com.au (natsoft.com.au [203.39.138.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23574 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:37:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@natsoft.com.au) Received: from Win95.natsoft.com.au (Win95 [203.39.138.131]) by natsoft.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA02212; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:38:46 GMT Message-ID: <35EB4EE0.2447@natsoft.com.au> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 11:33:20 +1000 From: Craig Wilson Organization: National Software Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Justin T. Gibbs" CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CAM For 2.2.7-RELEASE References: <199809010038.SAA05493@narnia.plutotech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > > I found ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/2.2CAM-19980716-SNAP.diffs > > Could anyone please tell me if this can be applied safely to the > > 2.2.7-RELEASE. > > I cannot guarantee that it will work. You can install a full distribution > from that location if you're leary of attempting the patch and fixing > up any rejects. > > -- > Justin Thank you for your reply. I did try the patch from the 2.2.7-RELEASE CD but I get: mt.o Undefined symbol '_stringtocomp' referenced from text segment *** Error Code 1 I have an AHA1542 controller so I think I will use that. Regards Craig Wilson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 19:04:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27879 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:04:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (passer.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.110.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27874 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:04:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.8/8.6.10) id TAA29300; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdU29298; Mon Aug 31 19:02:17 1998 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.8.8/8.6.10) id TAA01868; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809010202.TAA01868@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdcb1862; Mon Aug 31 19:02:05 1998 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: cy To: Craig Wilson cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CAM For 2.2.7-RELEASE In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:28:27 +1000." <35EA0A4B.7744@natsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:02:04 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have 2.2.7-RELEASE CDROM and a computer with an Adaptec AIC-7895P > on the mother board. From looking at the mailing lists etc I found > that CAM is required to use this chip. > > I found ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/2.2CAM-19980716-SNAP.diffs > Could anyone please tell me if this can be applied safely to the > 2.2.7-RELEASE. The patches will install with errors, however you can manually fix the errors. I've been using 2.2.7R with the CAM patches for the last four weeks without any problems. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Government of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 21:14:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12178 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:14:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles231.castles.com [208.214.165.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12166 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:14:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00398; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:11:37 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808312111.VAA00398@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: chad@dcfinc.com cc: don@calis.BlackSun.org (Don), stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:24:31 MST." <199808312324.QAA18249@freebie.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:11:35 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The only problem with this driver is that some ppl did not realize > > that it came out and did not know to change their kernels and rc.conf > > files. The performance has to date been flawless. > > -Don > > You know, once you're knocked off the net, it's a lot harder to fix > things. > > Perhaps some posting to -announce or -stable that the vx driver would > suddenly stop working would have been in order. This was done as part of the announcement. It's also in the commit logs, which are the authoratative reference. Tracking either -stable or -current without reading the logs is like anything else your mother warned you about. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 21:24:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13318 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:24:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13313 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id VAA18744; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:22:53 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199809010422.VAA18744@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:22:52 -0700 (MST) Cc: chad@dcfinc.com, don@calis.BlackSun.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199808312111.VAA00398@word.smith.net.au> from Mike Smith at "Aug 31, 98 09:11:35 pm" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > This was done as part of the announcement. It's also in the commit > logs, which are the authoratative reference. > > Tracking either -stable or -current without reading the logs is like > anything else your mother warned you about. This seems like an escalation of responsibility for the user. I've read (and agree) that tracking -stable without subscribing to the stable mailing list is asking for whatever you get. I'd never heard a requirement for reading the CVS logs before. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 21:33:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14686 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles231.castles.com [208.214.165.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14681 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:33:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00492; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:29:52 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808312129.VAA00492@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: chad@dcfinc.com cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), don@calis.BlackSun.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:22:52 MST." <199809010422.VAA18744@freebie.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:29:51 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > This was done as part of the announcement. It's also in the commit > > logs, which are the authoratative reference. > > > > Tracking either -stable or -current without reading the logs is like > > anything else your mother warned you about. > > This seems like an escalation of responsibility for the user. I guess that depends on what counts as escalation. There's a tradeoff between how much you're willing to risk vs. how much work you're willing to do to avoid it. As I mentioned, I'm fairly certain that Bill mentioned in his announcement about the xl driver that it replaced the vx driver for the hardware it supports. > I've read (and agree) that tracking -stable without subscribing to the > stable mailing list is asking for whatever you get. I'd never heard a > requirement for reading the CVS logs before. It depends on how detailed and explicit you want your change notifications. Some people would argue that you should be reading the diffs as well. Otherwise, I'd have to say that you have to accept a few wrinkles. For sure, it would be nice if there was a way of making sure that everyone reading -stable paid attention to everything that was being done and said; it just doesn't seem to happen. I was just making the point that if you haven't availed yourself of all the information, you really don't have much of a case for complaining. Regardless, the traditional recourse seems to have you back on your feet, and I expect we'd like to know more about how well it's working for you than whether or not we ought to be holding peoples' hands. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 21:45:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16687 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:45:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16682 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:45:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id VAA18816; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:44:19 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199809010444.VAA18816@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:44:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: chad@dcfinc.com, mike@smith.net.au, don@calis.BlackSun.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199808312129.VAA00492@word.smith.net.au> from Mike Smith at "Aug 31, 98 09:29:51 pm" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Tracking either -stable or -current without reading the logs is like > > > anything else your mother warned you about. > > > > This seems like an escalation of responsibility for the user. > > I guess that depends on what counts as escalation. There's a tradeoff > between how much you're willing to risk vs. how much work you're > willing to do to avoid it. As I mentioned, I'm fairly certain that > Bill mentioned in his announcement about the xl driver that it replaced > the vx driver for the hardware it supports. As I mentioned in mail to Bill, I subscribe to and read the -stable mailing list. Nothing in it jumped out and said, "after Aug 24, if you build a new kernel your existing network interface will quit working." As you pointed out in earler e-mail, PCI device drivers imply a mutual exclusion, which means the upgrade was not optional. I'm probably thick, but I claim that was not obvious to a more-than-casual user. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 21:55:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17700 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:55:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles231.castles.com [208.214.165.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17695 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:55:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00636; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:51:46 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808312151.VAA00636@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: chad@dcfinc.com cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), don@calis.BlackSun.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:44:19 MST." <199809010444.VAA18816@freebie.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:51:45 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > I guess that depends on what counts as escalation. There's a tradeoff > > between how much you're willing to risk vs. how much work you're > > willing to do to avoid it. As I mentioned, I'm fairly certain that > > Bill mentioned in his announcement about the xl driver that it replaced > > the vx driver for the hardware it supports. > > As I mentioned in mail to Bill, I subscribe to and read the -stable > mailing list. Nothing in it jumped out and said, "after Aug 24, if you > build a new kernel your existing network interface will quit working." > > As you pointed out in earler e-mail, PCI device drivers imply a > mutual exclusion, which means the upgrade was not optional. > > I'm probably thick, but I claim that was not obvious to a > more-than-casual user. No - I think I've not managed to make the point I was trying to, which was that no matter *how* hard you try, people will still not pay attention to things. In this case, it may not have terribly obvious, in others it's been both worse and better. The current situation is a tradeoff, one that keeps the obligations on our voluteer developers down, and balances that with a nominal but non-zero workload supporting people that have missed/not understood/ignored things. The flipside of this is that because we don't have the structure or support in place to produce formalised "heads up" documentation, the user community has to be willing to tolerate a certain degree of surprise. I'm sorry if I managed to accuse you of being thick; that wasn't part of the plan. 8( -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 22:43:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA23282 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 22:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23277 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 22:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22027; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 22:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: chad@dcfinc.com cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), don@calis.BlackSun.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:22:52 PDT." <199809010422.VAA18744@freebie.dcfinc.com> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 22:42:11 -0700 Message-ID: <22024.904628531@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > This seems like an escalation of responsibility for the user. > > I've read (and agree) that tracking -stable without subscribing to the > stable mailing list is asking for whatever you get. I'd never heard a > requirement for reading the CVS logs before. If it's not a documented requirement, I agree that it should be. Running -current or -stable for the uninitiated is just too dangerous and I definitely forsee a day when cvsup won't even touch your source tree until it's verified that you performed all the requisite steps. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 31 23:29:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28216 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:29:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles231.castles.com [208.214.165.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28210 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:29:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01271 for ; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:26:34 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808312326.XAA01271@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Bob Vaughan Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Aug 1998 22:54:15 MST." <199809010554.WAA04982@tantivy.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:25:22 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (Bob, please forgive me for copying -stable on this; you raise a couple of points that are worth responding to in public as they're applicable to the discussion in general.) > I guess the other half of the point isn't quite making it thru.. > > Bill's request for feedback was the FIRST time I had heard anything about > a change in the vx driver, other than the fact that a new driver for the > 3c90x series was being written. In case you didn't notice, this notice came > a week after the change had been committed. You're quite correct, and my recollection is wrong; there wasn't an announcement on -stable. I'm sorry for the error there. > I don't expect to be talked down to like a schoolboy, especially when I > have been doing everything that it was suggested I do. So you've been reading the commit messages, then? I'm sure many people have recommended this before. Seriously; if you really want 100% coverage, you have to watch *everything*. As I tried to point out before, it's quite difficult to ensure that all of the possible consequences of a series of changes are explained *before* the changes are made, and that people will understand the explanations. For a good example of this in action, see the ELF transition process as it's currently being discussed on -current. Despite literally weeks of pre-release testing, exhaustive instructions, documentation out the wazoo, there are still problems being encountered across a range of cases from "user ignored instructions" to "everyone scratching their heads". To do better than we try to do now would involve forcing developers to hold back for some period (which would never be long enough) between deciding to commit something and actually doing it, so that the effects of the change could be documented, disseminated, explained, etc. This is something that can be done inside a formal development framework, but it's much harder to impose this sort of discipline and management-level control on a group of volunteers. Instead, we encourage committers to try to assess the effects of their changes, and to publicise these where appropriate. This is always the commit messages for the code in question, and generally also the list corresponding to the branch (current, stable, small, etc.). Sometimes this doesn't happen, and we get a situation like now. > I don't expect anybody to hold my hand, but I do expect at least some > notification of major changes, before I run into them. I think it's clear now that we slipped on this. What can I say? > we got plenty of warning when the slice code changed, it would be nice to Don't make me laugh; I flubbed that one too. 8( -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 02:39:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18555 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 02:39:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA18550 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 02:39:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 1 Sep 98 10:38:19 +0100 (BST) To: Mike Smith cc: Bob Vaughan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 Aug 1998 23:25:22 -0000." <199808312326.XAA01271@word.smith.net.au> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 10:38:18 +0100 From: David Malone Message-ID: <9809011038.aa05059@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I don't expect to be talked down to like a schoolboy, especially when I > > have been doing everything that it was suggested I do. > > So you've been reading the commit messages, then? I'm sure many people > have recommended this before. Seriously; if you really want 100% > coverage, you have to watch *everything*. To be fair, I've never seen reading the commit logs listed as a requirement for running stable. Not announcing changes that break stuff makes a nonsense of telling people they should subscribe to -stable before running -stable. Why bother when you're just going to be told to read the commit logs and diffs? (I do read the diffs - but I don't consider it reasonable that everyone should have to - people ftping CTM deltas don't even get the commit logs). As you say, for 100% coverage read everything available. OTOH a message to -stable wouldn't have gone amis. If someone forgot to post this message fine - but it seems unfair to move the goal posts and tell people it was completly their fault for not reading every available bit of info. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 04:19:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA29907 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 04:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA29871; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 04:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from olvaldi.ifi.uio.no (2602@olvaldi.ifi.uio.no [129.240.65.43]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id NAA26778; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:17:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by olvaldi.ifi.uio.no ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:17:50 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Paul Cc: bright@hotjobs.com (Alfred Perlstein), stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver References: <199808300141.VAA01492@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which I am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 01 Sep 1998 13:17:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: Bill Paul's message of "Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:41:32 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id EAA29891 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Paul writes: > This is probably a bit much considering that the only thing that really > needs to be done is to set the RX filter bits to allow reception of all > frames. I think I inherited this behavior from the fxp driver, which is > what I used as a reference when I got started with driver writing. I'll > look into changing this. Hmm, if you fix it in xl, could you pretty please with tons of sugar on top and a cherry fix fxp too? :) DES (EtherExpress for ever) -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 06:32:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12652 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:32:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calis.BlackSun.org (slip-ppp-4-198.escape.com [205.160.46.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12632 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA08006 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:31:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:31:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Don To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-Reply-To: <22024.904628531@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What is the big deal with the new driver folks? I cvsup'd the other day, made world and made a new kernel. The ethernet driver wasnt picking up my card so i checked all my files remade the kernel and still no luck. I bailed to a previous kernel jumped onto #freebsd for a quick question and was immediately told about the new driver. In 5 minutes i was running with the new driver. It didnt take but an extra 15 minutes to find the problem and correct it. I think there should have been a little more fanfare about the new driver but it wasnt the end of the world :) Besides if we didnt have these little hangups now and then what fun would system administration be? :) -Don ps: The slice problem was a lot more fun. The first kernel I made there didnt work (my fault) and when i had to bail to the previous kernel the slice info was wrong so i had to change it all back (fun when it doesnt want to mount root rw) and then try again :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 06:44:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14586 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:44:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cristal.cristal.asso.fr (www.cristal.asso.fr [194.98.116.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14564 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 06:44:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from damien@cristal.cristal.asso.fr) Received: (from damien@localhost) by cristal.cristal.asso.fr (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA00821 for FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:44:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Damien DIXSAUT Message-Id: <199809011344.PAA00821@cristal.cristal.asso.fr> Subject: Questions about building the world To: FreeBSD-Stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:44:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everyone, I'm now in the process of upgrading a system from 2.2.2-RELEASE to -STABLE to be able to use this great new xl driver on it ! I've used CTM to get the latest available sources (up to src-2.2.0848.gz) and unpacked them in /usr/src. Now for the questions : I've customized parts of my system, especially installed Perl 5 and Sendmail 8.9.1 as a replacement for Perl and Sendmail provided with FreeBSD. If I "make world", will these be replaced by other versions, and if yes, how can I avoid it ? When I "make buildworld" for a test, I get some weired messages. I'm not sure if they indicate errors or car be just ignored : When building the C library, which is, I beleive, an important part of the system :-) >building shared c library (version 3.1) >--- libc.so.3.1 --- >nm: bt_debug.so: no name list. >building special pic c library >--- libc_pic.a --- >ranlib libc_pic.a >--- libc.a --- >--- libc.so.3.1 --- >nm: euc.so: no name list. >building standard c library >nm: mskanji.so: no name list. >nm: utf2.so: no name list. >--- libc.a --- >nm: bt_debug.o: no name list. >nm: euc.o: no name list. >nm: mskanji.o: no name list. >nm: utf2.o: no name list. At the end of the compile : >--- umap_vfsops.o --- >/usr/src/lkm/umapfs/../../sys/miscfs/umapfs/umap_vfsops.c:434: warning: no >previous prototype for `umap_mod' >--- umap_vnops.o --- >/usr/src/lkm/umapfs/../../sys/miscfs/umapfs/umap_vnops.c: In function >`umap_rename': >/usr/src/lkm/umapfs/../../sys/miscfs/umapfs/umap_vnops.c:467: warning: >passing arg 1 of `umap_bypass' from incompatible pointer type ... and many more warnings like these ... Compile seems to proceed to its end, though. Can these "no name list" and warnings be ignored, or do I have to check something before I "make installworld" ? Thanks in advance for your answer, and I would also greatly appreciate any pointer to documentation about the "make world" process. I only have http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html for now. --- Damien DIXSAUT Computer science student Paris, France To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 09:13:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02902 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:13:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02840 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:12:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15613; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:10:21 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199809011610.NAA15613@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: CAM For 2.2.7-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199809010038.SAA05493@narnia.plutotech.com> from "Justin T. Gibbs" at "Aug 31, 98 06:38:42 pm" To: gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com (Justin T. Gibbs) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:10:21 -0300 (EST) Cc: craig@natsoft.com.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG // > I found ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/2.2CAM-19980716-SNAP.diffs // > Could anyone please tell me if this can be applied safely to the // > 2.2.7-RELEASE. You're lucky ! I've modified the CAM patches for -stable just yesterday. I could send you a copy, if you're still interested. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro "There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and Unix. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 09:41:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07792 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:41:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from B1FF.nas.nasa.gov (b1ff.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.34.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07783 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:41:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rone@B1FF.nas.nasa.gov) Received: (from rone@localhost) by B1FF.nas.nasa.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09654 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rone) From: Ron Echeverri Message-Id: <199809011640.JAA09654@B1FF.nas.nasa.gov> Subject: Requisite steps for tracking -stable In-Reply-To: <22024.904628531@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Aug 31, 98 10:42:11 pm" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:40:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > This seems like an escalation of responsibility for the user. > I've read (and agree) that tracking -stable without subscribing to the > stable mailing list is asking for whatever you get. I'd never heard a > requirement for reading the CVS logs before. If it's not a documented requirement, I agree that it should be. Running -current or -stable for the uninitiated is just too dangerous and I definitely forsee a day when cvsup won't even touch your source tree until it's verified that you performed all the requisite steps. So, to make things as clear as possible, what are all the requisite steps? I, too, was under the impression subscribing to freebsd-stable would be enough to keep track of vital information regarding the -stable tree. If there is something else that must be done, this should be detailed somewhere obvious, like the Handbook. rone -- Ron Echeverri Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation Facility DSS/Usenet Administrator NASA Ames Research Center Internet Sysop Mountain View, CA x42771 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 10:03:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10928 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.kersur.net (mail.kersur.net [199.79.199.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10920 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:03:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from druber@mail.kersur.net) Received: from localhost (druber@localhost) by mail.kersur.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18012; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:01:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:01:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Swartzendruber To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" , craig@natsoft.com.au, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CAM For 2.2.7-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <199809011610.NAA15613@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Me too, if you wouldn't mind! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 11:01:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23993 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:01:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23987 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:01:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id LAA19633; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:00:18 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199809011800.LAA19633@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:00:18 -0700 (MST) Cc: chad@dcfinc.com, mike@smith.net.au, don@calis.BlackSun.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199808312151.VAA00636@word.smith.net.au> from Mike Smith at "Aug 31, 98 09:51:45 pm" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The flipside of this is that because we don't have the structure or > support in place to produce formalised "heads up" documentation, the > user community has to be willing to tolerate a certain degree of > surprise. > > I'm sorry if I managed to accuse you of being thick; that wasn't part > of the plan. 8( This is perhaps taking up more bandwidth than it's worth. The point =I= was trying to make is that the Handbook and other "good practices" documentation says if you're gonna track -stable or -current, you should read the associated mailing list. I did/do read -stable religiously and yet got caught out when my monthly update killed my machine. I think announcements on the mailing list are sufficient for "heads up", but however this one was phrased, it didn't make it clear that the vx to xl upgrade was not an option and that it was gonna happen as part of a CVSup. Nor did it say that unless you changed your kernel config file concurrent with a kernel build after Aug 24, you'd be off the net. I guess what I'm saying is I think adequate process is in place; we don't need another notification method. But this one failed (at least) me. As an aside, I hope this lengthy exchange opened at least one other person's eyes before they got caught. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 12:05:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04579 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:05:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04571 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:05:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id MAA19740; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:03:57 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199809011903.MAA19740@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable To: rone@B1FF.nas.nasa.gov (Ron Echeverri) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:03:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199809011640.JAA09654@B1FF.nas.nasa.gov> from Ron Echeverri at "Sep 1, 98 09:40:05 am" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > This seems like an escalation of responsibility for the user. > > I've read (and agree) that tracking -stable without subscribing to the > > stable mailing list is asking for whatever you get. I'd never heard a > > requirement for reading the CVS logs before. > If it's not a documented requirement, I agree that it should be. > Running -current or -stable for the uninitiated is just too dangerous > and I definitely forsee a day when cvsup won't even touch your source > tree until it's verified that you performed all the requisite steps. > > So, to make things as clear as possible, what are all the requisite > steps? I, too, was under the impression subscribing to freebsd-stable > would be enough to keep track of vital information regarding the > -stable tree. If there is something else that must be done, this > should be detailed somewhere obvious, like the Handbook. I'd offer another (perhaps obvious) suggestion. The requirements to track -current might include reading the CVS logs while tracking -stable probably shouldn't. Keep in mind that the differences in -stable users and -current users. The current guys are happy to be bleeding edge, want the latest-n-greatest and/or are actively working on code (and reading -hackers, we'd hope). The -stable guys aren't necessarily able to spend a lot of time keeping up. They're running production on their boxes, not entertaining themselves with O/S development. That's =why= they're running -stable. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 13:01:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14588 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:01:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from laker.net (jet.laker.net [205.245.74.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14580 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfriedri@laker.net) Received: from nt (digital-pbi-151.laker.net [208.0.233.51]) by laker.net (8.9.0/8.9.LAKERNET.NO-SPAM.SPAMMERS.AND.RELAYS.WILL.BE.TRACKED.AND.PROSECUTED.) with SMTP id QAA10966; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:00:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199809012000.QAA10966@laker.net> From: "Steve Friedrich" To: "chad@dcfinc.com" Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 15:59:05 -0500 Reply-To: "Steve Friedrich" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.00.1500) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:03:57 -0700 (MST), Chad R. Larson wrote: >> Jordan K. Hubbard writes: >> > This seems like an escalation of responsibility for the user. >> > I've read (and agree) that tracking -stable without subscribing to the >> > stable mailing list is asking for whatever you get. I'd never heard a >> > requirement for reading the CVS logs before. >> If it's not a documented requirement, I agree that it should be. >> Running -current or -stable for the uninitiated is just too dangerous >> and I definitely forsee a day when cvsup won't even touch your source >> tree until it's verified that you performed all the requisite steps. >> >> So, to make things as clear as possible, what are all the requisite >> steps? I, too, was under the impression subscribing to freebsd-stable >> would be enough to keep track of vital information regarding the >> -stable tree. If there is something else that must be done, this >> should be detailed somewhere obvious, like the Handbook. > >I'd offer another (perhaps obvious) suggestion. The requirements to >track -current might include reading the CVS logs while tracking -stable >probably shouldn't. > >Keep in mind that the differences in -stable users and -current users. >The current guys are happy to be bleeding edge, want the >latest-n-greatest and/or are actively working on code (and reading >-hackers, we'd hope). > >The -stable guys aren't necessarily able to spend a lot of time keeping >up. They're running production on their boxes, not entertaining >themselves with O/S development. That's =why= they're running -stable. What he said !! (I'm seconding the motion). I'd like to see daily or weekly summaries from the logs posted to -stable. I wan't to build -stable as infrequently as I can, but I don't have the time to wade thru cvs-logs and read/answer -questions. I'd hate to stop answering -questions, just to have the time to keep myself -stable... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 13:45:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21260 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:45:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rrz.Hanse.DE (rrz.Hanse.DE [193.174.9.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21242 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:45:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stb@hanse.de) Received: from daemon.Hanse.DE (daemon.Hanse.DE [193.174.9.17]) by rrz.Hanse.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12969; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 21:51:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stb@hanse.de) Received: from transit.hanse.de (transit.Hanse.DE [193.174.9.161]) by daemon.Hanse.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05474; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:45:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stb@hanse.de) Received: from localhost (stb@localhost) by transit.hanse.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA00171; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:43:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: transit.hanse.de: stb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:43:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Bethke To: Bill/Carolyn Pechter cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netatalk corrupts atalkd.conf In-Reply-To: <199808071531.LAA04246@shell.monmouth.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Bill, On Fri, 7 Aug 1998, Bill/Carolyn Pechter wrote: > I've got netatalk running in 2.2.7-STABLE and I've been trying > to install it in 2.2.7-RELEASE at work. > > The problem is that the system seems to hang at netatalks's startup > and the atalk.d gets corrupted with what looks like data from the > dictionary. or a punch of nulls. Do you still have the problem? Sorry, I just forgot to even think about the problem further. If it persist, please let me; I have a few item to work on for the netatalk port this weekend, and maybe I can find a solution if there still is a problem. Cheers, Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Muehlendamm 12 Phone: +49-40-256848, +49-177-3504009 D-22087 Hamburg Hamburg, Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 14:55:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02335 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:55:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lafcol (lafcol.lafayette.edu [139.147.8.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02328 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from knollm@lafcol.lafayette.edu) Received: from localhost by lafcol (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA00710; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:38:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:37:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Knoll To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make buildworld fails Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After a few months of neglect, I tried to upgrade my box to -stable. When compiling, I got the errors attached at the end of this email. I understand cvsup holds changes, and comments on what was changed. Is there any way to get a list of all changes when cvsup'ing? Like, if lpr was changed, have it tell me lpr was changed because it didn't do something correctly. Thanks, Mike --- umap_subr.o --- /usr/src/lkm/umapfs/../../sys/miscfs/umapfs/umap_subr.c: In function `umap_mapid s': /usr/src/lkm/umapfs/../../sys/miscfs/umapfs/umap_subr.c:390: warning: passing ar g 2 of `umap_findid' from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/lkm/umapfs/../../sys/miscfs/umapfs/umap_subr.c:416: warning: passing ar g 2 of `umap_findid' from incompatible pointer type --- umap_vnops.o --- /usr/src/lkm/umapfs/../../sys/miscfs/umapfs/umap_vnops.c: In function `umap_geta ttr': /usr/src/lkm/umapfs/../../sys/miscfs/umapfs/umap_vnops.c:280: warning: passing a rg 1 of `umap_bypass' from incompatible pointer type --- umap_vfsops.o --- /usr/src/lkm/umapfs/../../sys/miscfs/umapfs/umap_vfsops.c:434: warning: no previ ous prototype for `umap_mod' --- umap_vnops.o --- /usr/src/lkm/umapfs/../../sys/miscfs/umapfs/umap_vnops.c: In function `umap_rena me': /usr/src/lkm/umapfs/../../sys/miscfs/umapfs/umap_vnops.c:467: warning: passing a rg 1 of `umap_bypass' from incompatible pointer type --- umap_mod.o --- ld -r -o tmp.o umap_subr.o umap_vfsops.o umap_vnops.o symorder -c symb.tmp tmp.o mv tmp.o umap_mod.o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 16:02:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13490 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:02:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13485 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04046; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:01:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Ron Echeverri cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 01 Sep 1998 09:40:05 PDT." <199809011640.JAA09654@B1FF.nas.nasa.gov> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 16:01:42 -0700 Message-ID: <4042.904690902@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > So, to make things as clear as possible, what are all the requisite > steps? I, too, was under the impression subscribing to freebsd-stable > would be enough to keep track of vital information regarding the > -stable tree. If there is something else that must be done, this > should be detailed somewhere obvious, like the Handbook. I think it's basically "read -stable if you track stable, read -current if you track -current" - we just need to get people to make important announcements to them with a bit more reliability and I think that'll happen now in the future. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 16:03:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13578 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:03:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13573 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04059; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:02:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: "Steve Friedrich" cc: "chad@dcfinc.com" , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 01 Sep 1998 15:59:05 CDT." <199809012000.QAA10966@laker.net> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 16:02:13 -0700 Message-ID: <4055.904690933@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What he said !! (I'm seconding the motion). I'd like to see daily or > weekly summaries from the logs posted to -stable. I wan't to build That won't happen, but I think we'll get people who make important changes to note this in -stable from now on. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 18:19:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04914 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:19:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lafcol (lafcol.lafayette.edu [139.147.8.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA04896 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from knollm@lafcol.lafayette.edu) Received: from localhost by lafcol (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA23388; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 21:16:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 21:16:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Knoll To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Ron Echeverri , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable In-Reply-To: <4042.904690902@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I track -stable, and am "limitedly" interested in it. I try to keep up with it, but school and work sometimes halt all efforts. I have found myself several times without an answer to compile problems in -stable. I was recently introduced to the version comments cvsup keeps(http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi). I was wondering, after cvsup'ing, is there anyway to get that information emailed, or stored on only those files that have changed? So, I get that information mailed to me after I cvsup, including all new changes. I think that would be a great way to track -stable. I could read all about the little changes. Also, maybe those comments could scream at you more if it's a critical change that needs attention, like messages that require attention before 'make buildworld'ing. Just my thoughts, not sure on the capablity of this, feel free to shoot it down. On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > So, to make things as clear as possible, what are all the requisite > > steps? I, too, was under the impression subscribing to freebsd-stable > > would be enough to keep track of vital information regarding the > > -stable tree. If there is something else that must be done, this > > should be detailed somewhere obvious, like the Handbook. > > I think it's basically "read -stable if you track stable, read > -current if you track -current" - we just need to get people to make > important announcements to them with a bit more reliability and I think > that'll happen now in the future. > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 19:43:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA18865 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:43:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from coal.sentex.ca (coal.sentex.ca [209.112.4.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18858 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:43:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by coal.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA01176 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:42:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980901224546.00fb3100@sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 22:45:46 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable In-Reply-To: <4055.904690933@time.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:02 PM 9/1/98 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >That won't happen, but I think we'll get people who make important >changes to note this in -stable from now on. With the amount of work that goes into FreeBSD and the shear size and complexity of it all, its a wonder it doesnt break more often! I recall the first time I discovered cvsup and began to contemplate the whole process, I was quite amazed by it all...imagine, downloading the deltas to the source code to an entire OS. I was pretty blown away by the fact that it worked. Considering that its done on a daily basis and out of the 365 days a year that changes get made, I think I can count on one hand the amount of times there were actual source code problems, and not many more times where there wasnt some form of 'heads up' posted somewhere about important changes. In short, it rocks! ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 20:25:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23758 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 20:25:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sonata.hh.kew.com (kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.94.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23751 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 20:25:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from software@kew.com) Received: from ffactory.uucp.kew.com (ffactory.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.131]) by sonata.hh.kew.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA12930 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kew.com by ffactory.uucp.kew.com (UUPC/extended 1.13d) with UUCP for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 01 Sep 1998 23:24:02 -0500 Received: from kew.com by ffactory.uucp.kew.com (UUPC/extended 1.13d) with ESMTP for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 01 Sep 1998 23:24:00 -0500 Message-ID: <35ECBA50.D3146ED2@kew.com> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 23:24:00 -0400 From: Drew Derbyshire Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks, Stoneham, MA 02180 (http://www.kew.com) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable References: <199809011903.MAA19740@freebie.dcfinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The reason I gave up my commit privs without ever having committed anything is all the time I would have spent hacking FreeBSD I spent reading the CVS logs. Unfortunate, and perhaps a requirement, but true. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 "He wants to dream like a young man With the wisdom of an old man He wants his home and security He wants to live like a sailor at sea. . ." - Bob Seger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 21:21:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01453 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 21:21:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from angmar.mel.cybec.com.au (angmar.mel.cybec.com.au [203.103.154.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01430 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 21:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lodea@angmar.mel.cybec.com.au) Received: from localhost (lodea@localhost) by angmar.mel.cybec.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA25620; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:22:16 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:22:16 +1000 (EST) From: "Lachlan O'Dea" Reply-To: "Lachlan O'Dea" To: Mike Tancsa cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980901224546.00fb3100@sentex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 04:02 PM 9/1/98 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >That won't happen, but I think we'll get people who make important > >changes to note this in -stable from now on. > > With the amount of work that goes into FreeBSD and the shear size and > complexity of it all, its a wonder it doesnt break more often! I recall > the first time I discovered cvsup and began to contemplate the whole > process, I was quite amazed by it all...imagine, downloading the deltas to > the source code to an entire OS. I was pretty blown away by the fact that > it worked. Considering that its done on a daily basis and out of the 365 > days a year that changes get made, I think I can count on one hand the > amount of times there were actual source code problems, and not many more > times where there wasnt some form of 'heads up' posted somewhere about > important changes. In short, it rocks! It certainly does. -stable is great for tracking things like security fixes. Cvsup just brings them down along with everything else. Security fixes on NT are an incredible pain: first install Service Pack 3, and then install about a dozen "hot-fixes" (which you have to download individually). Of course, if you later decide to install another OS feature, you have to redo the whole process again, and it must be done manually on each machine. FreeBSD is so much better it's just not funny. Just my 2c on tracking -stable: I think a good example of how it should work was the removal of compatibility slice names. In that instance, reading the commit logs probably wouldn't have resulted in a "heads up", but anyone following the -stable list would have been fully aware of what was happening. Of course, following the commit logs will reduce the chance that you'll be surprised by something, but I've certainly never felt the need for it (I've been tracking -stable for about a year now I think). I guess YMMV. =================================================================== Lachlan O'Dea FreeBSD rocks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 21:30:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02936 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 21:30:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hilda.sci.usq.edu.au (hilda.sci.usq.edu.au [139.86.144.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA02928 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 21:30:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vance@usq.edu.au) Received: (qmail 507 invoked by uid 205); 2 Sep 1998 04:29:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19980902042906.506.qmail@usq.edu.au> Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG To: Bill Paul Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 14:29:06 +1000 From: Christopher JS Vance Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Paul wrote: | Okay people, it's been some time since I put the xl0 driver in | -current | and -stable. I need to know if people are having problems with the | driver | or not. So far I've gotten startlingly little feedback. This either | means | that it's working so well that nobody has had any trouble with it, or | you guys are all just slackers and are too lazy to speak up. I get a kernel panic. I didn't actually try the new kernel till several days after the discussion started... | - What kind of adapter you have. Note that a 3c905-TX is NOT THE SAME | as a 3c905B-TX. (See the 'B'? It makes a difference.) Double and | triple | check the model. Don't tell me you have a 3c905B when you actually | only | have a 3c905. If you want to be really nice, do 'dmesg | grep xl' | and | show me the output. My handwritten copy of what the 2.2.7-STABLE kernel (with -dv) gives on reboot just before the panic is: xl0 <3Com 3c900 Etherlink XL 10BaseT Combo> rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:9:0 mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000e000 size=0040. xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:97:a4:18:de xl0: media options word: e138 xl0: found 10BaseT xl0: found AUI xl0: found BNC xl0: unknown XCVR type: 14 ifmedia_set: no match for 0x100026/0xffffffff panic: ifmedia_set No dmesg information recorded, so it's a paper job. The card says 3c900 when I look at it. Previous tries without -dv told me no match for `0x20/0xffffffff', but I can't remember if the previous line appeared. (I did get something about autoneg not supported.) | - The driver version you're using. If you obtained the driver by | cvsup'ing -current or -stable, then you have the latest one. If you | downloaded the driver from www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/3Com within the | last week, then you also have the latest one. If you're not sure, | show me the rcsid strings from if_xl.c and if_xlreg.h. Got by cvsup of -stable. | - Does the driver detect all of the adapter's media types correctly? Yes. | - Is the system stable? Have you had problems with kernel panics since | you started using the driver? Is mbuf usage normal or does it look | like there's an mbuf leak? (use netstat -m to monitor mbuf usage) I had no problems with vx since 2.2.5-stable. | - Type of system (CPU type/speed). Are you using a slower system like | a 486 or older Pentium (P75, P90, P1xx, etc...)? If so, are there | problems with performance? Are you using SCSI disks or IDE disks? Pentium Pro 200, IDE Quantum Fireball 4.3G disk, 64M memory. The rest of your questions are probably not relevant until it boots... Is there any way of telling the driver the media type (like the vx driver)? I tried using the W95 utility from 3Com to set the media type, but them Winblows stopped working. So reinstalled with `auto' Yes I do need to run MS and Linux occasionally on the same machine. -- Christopher To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 22:33:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14387 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:33:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lafcol (lafcol.lafayette.edu [139.147.8.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA14369 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:33:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from knollm@lafcol.lafayette.edu) Received: from localhost by lafcol (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA29309; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:30:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:30:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Knoll To: "Lachlan O'Dea" cc: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Atleast in my case, possibly others, reading -stable's list constantly, and sorting out the important stuff is not always possible. Ocationally, I'll leave for a few months, come back wanting to update, but building fails. If magic could occur, I'd wish cvsup to take my current source tree's version, compare it to the latest, and generate a list of critical changes that need to be done. I'm not that fimilar with this process, so, I don't know if there is a wizard out there capable of this magic. Mike On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Lachlan O'Dea wrote: > On Tue, 1 Sep 1998, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > At 04:02 PM 9/1/98 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > >That won't happen, but I think we'll get people who make important > > >changes to note this in -stable from now on. > > > > With the amount of work that goes into FreeBSD and the shear size and > > complexity of it all, its a wonder it doesnt break more often! I recall > > the first time I discovered cvsup and began to contemplate the whole > > process, I was quite amazed by it all...imagine, downloading the deltas to > > the source code to an entire OS. I was pretty blown away by the fact that > > it worked. Considering that its done on a daily basis and out of the 365 > > days a year that changes get made, I think I can count on one hand the > > amount of times there were actual source code problems, and not many more > > times where there wasnt some form of 'heads up' posted somewhere about > > important changes. In short, it rocks! > > It certainly does. -stable is great for tracking things like security > fixes. Cvsup just brings them down along with everything else. Security > fixes on NT are an incredible pain: first install Service Pack 3, and then > install about a dozen "hot-fixes" (which you have to download > individually). Of course, if you later decide to install another OS > feature, you have to redo the whole process again, and it must be done > manually on each machine. FreeBSD is so much better it's just not funny. > > Just my 2c on tracking -stable: I think a good example of how it should > work was the removal of compatibility slice names. In that instance, > reading the commit logs probably wouldn't have resulted in a "heads up", > but anyone following the -stable list would have been fully aware of what > was happening. > > Of course, following the commit logs will reduce the chance that you'll be > surprised by something, but I've certainly never felt the need for it > (I've been tracking -stable for about a year now I think). I guess YMMV. > > =================================================================== > Lachlan O'Dea > FreeBSD rocks! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 22:36:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA14987 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:36:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14975 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Received: from san.rr.com (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12993; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@san.rr.com) Message-ID: <35ECD91A.6A0F07D@san.rr.com> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 22:35:22 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0827 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Knoll CC: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Ron Echeverri , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Knoll wrote: > > I track -stable, and am "limitedly" interested in it. I try to keep up > with it, but school and work sometimes halt all efforts. I have found > myself several times without an answer to compile problems in -stable. I > was recently introduced to the version comments cvsup > keeps(http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi). I was wondering, after > cvsup'ing, is there anyway to get that information emailed, or stored on > only those files that have changed? When you cvsup you get a list of files that have changed. I can't think of any possible way that you could automate the process of pulling down the commit logs for the changes, but you could look them up on your own if you wish. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** At Barry (a small town in south Wales) hidden cameras have had to be installed to keep watch on the town's CCTV [Closed Circuit Television] to record acts of vandalism against the CCTV. - Privacy Forum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 22:56:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18235 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:56:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18230 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:56:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05316; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 22:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Drew Derbyshire cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 01 Sep 1998 23:24:00 EDT." <35ECBA50.D3146ED2@kew.com> Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 22:55:22 -0700 Message-ID: <5312.904715722@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >The reason I gave up my commit privs without ever having committed anything is >all the time I would have spent hacking FreeBSD I spent reading the CVS logs. > Unfortunate, and perhaps a requirement, but true. Gosh, I wonder how the other 100+ committers seem to manage it. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 23:28:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA23217 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:28:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA23116 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:28:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA16658; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:56:32 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 15:56:32 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Mike Knoll Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Mike Tancsa , "Lachlan O'Dea" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 02-Sep-98 Mike Knoll wrote: > If magic could occur, I'd wish cvsup to take my current source tree's > version, compare it to the latest, and generate a list of critical changes > that need to be done. I'm not that fimilar with this process, so, I don't > know if there is a wizard out there capable of this magic. Well.. you could get CVS to generate the log of those changes (between 2 dates) easily.. Seperating important from non-important would be kind of hard tho :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 23:32:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA23917 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:32:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA23909 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@washington.edu) Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu (root@saul4.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.2]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id XAA12036 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:31:32 -0700 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id XAA31622 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:27:16 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Compatibility Naming Was: Requisite steps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Lachlan O'Dea wrote: >Just my 2c on tracking -stable: I think a good example of how it should >work was the removal of compatibility slice names. In that instance, Please don't chuckle. I do not recall the term "compatibilty slice name". I just supped my first sources last week. What does "compatibility slice name" mean? I did notice that the scsi drive was named differently than the ide back when I upgraded to 2.2.6 a while ago. Nothing was broke so I didn't worry about it. I am curious to know if there is something egregiously wrong with my system that I never picked up on. $ mount /dev/wd0s2a on / (local) /dev/sd0f on /usr (local) /dev/sd0e on /var (local) procfs on /proc (local) (In case you were wondering, my bios won't boot scsi. This was a pain in the butt to get working right.) Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 1 23:46:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26595 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:46:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA26566 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:45:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA16823; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:14:40 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5312.904715722@time.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 16:14:39 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Drew Derbyshire Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 02-Sep-98 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Unfortunate, and perhaps a requirement, but true. > Gosh, I wonder how the other 100+ committers seem to manage it. :-) No sleep I though =) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 01:36:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15205 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:36:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15200 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:36:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@best.com) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with SMTP id BAA10308 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:35:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 01:35:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jan B. Koum " X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: make world died Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Just did CVSup on a fresh (2.2.7) system. Running make world died: cc -O -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../lib/libcom_err -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/compile_et.c cc -O -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../lib/libcom_err -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c error_table.c In file included from /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:72: error_table.h:8: conflicting types for `YYSTYPE' /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:10: previous declaration of `YYSTYPE' error_table.h:9: conflicting types for `yylval' error_table.c:121: previous declaration of `yylval' /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y: In function `char_to_num': /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:198: `ERRCODE_RANGE' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:198: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:198: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y: In function `set_table_num': /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:230: `BITS_PER_CHAR' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:234: `ERRCODE_RANGE' undeclared (first use this function) error_table.c: In function `yygrowstack': error_table.c:325: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type error_table.c:326: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type error_table.c: In function `yyparse': error_table.c:390: incompatible types in assignment error_table.c:431: incompatible types in assignment *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Odd thing is.. Going throug my CVSup logs I find: c src/usr.bin/compile_et/et_name.c,v RELENG_2_2 . 2#871#19#8688036454#21503#444 c src/usr.bin/compile_et/init_et.c,v RELENG_2_2 . 2#871#19#8688036464#27243#444 C src/usr.bin/compile_et/mit-sipb-copyright.h,v RELENG_2_2 . 2#871#19#9010270884#15053#444 1.1 95.01.14.22.29.34 2#871#19#7901225743#7693#644 c src/usr.bin/compile_et/perror.c,v RELENG_2_2 . 2#871#19#8688036464#27073#444 D src/usr.bin/compile_et/test etc.. However, most of those files are not in /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et now. What does c, C, D letter at the beginign mean? I guess I should rtfm that cvsup man page now. :) -- Yan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 09:07:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13977 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:07:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13969 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:07:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22821; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199809021606.JAA22821@austin.polstra.com> To: jkb@best.com Subject: Re: make world died In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 09:06:33 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Jan B. Koum wrote: > Odd thing is.. Going throug my CVSup logs I find: > > c src/usr.bin/compile_et/et_name.c,v RELENG_2_2 . > 2#871#19#8688036454#21503#444 > c src/usr.bin/compile_et/init_et.c,v RELENG_2_2 . > 2#871#19#8688036464#27243#444 > C src/usr.bin/compile_et/mit-sipb-copyright.h,v RELENG_2_2 . > 2#871#19#9010270884#15053#444 1.1 95.01.14.22.29.34 > 2#871#19#7901225743#7693#644 > c src/usr.bin/compile_et/perror.c,v RELENG_2_2 . > 2#871#19#8688036464#27073#444 > D src/usr.bin/compile_et/test That's not a log, it's CVSup's checkouts file. It's not really meant for human consumption. > etc.. However, most of those files are not in > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et now. What does c, C, D letter at the beginign > mean? I guess I should rtfm that cvsup man page now. :) See "doc/Checkouts" in the CVSup source distribution if you really want to understand it. But it's entirely subject to change in the future. I will probably move toward a DBM database for better performance. By the way, the lower-case 'c' lines are for files that are dead, i.e., files that should not be present in your checked-out version. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 09:51:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21452 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21442 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08665; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phoenix.phoenixos.com (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26178; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 12:51:31 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Virginia Tech From: John Baldwin To: Mike Knoll Subject: RE: make buildworld fails Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 01-Sep-98 Mike Knoll wrote: > After a few months of neglect, I tried to upgrade my box to -stable. > > When compiling, I got the errors attached at the end of this email. > > I understand cvsup holds changes, and comments on what was changed. Is > there any way to get a list of all changes when cvsup'ing? > > Like, if lpr was changed, have it tell me lpr was changed because it > didn't do something correctly. > > Thanks, > Mike Use a script to run cvsup and redirect the output to a file that you can look at later. I use the script below to update my sources: #!/bin/csh # #Uses CVSup to update the /usr/src tree cd /root set logfile='cvsup-src_'`date "+%y%m%d"`'.log' echo "--------------------------------------" | tee $logfile echo "CVSup started at "`date "+%T on %D"` | tee -a $logfile echo "--------------------------------------" | tee -a $logfile echo " " | tee -a $logfile /usr/local/bin/cvsup stable-supfile -g -L 2 $* |& tee -a $logfile echo "--------------------------------------" | tee -a $logfile echo "CVSup finished at "`date "+%T on %D"` | tee -a $logfile echo "--------------------------------------" | tee -a $logfile Then I can look at the log file and see what files where changed. - --- John Baldwin - -- jobaldwi@vt.edu -- jbaldwin@freedomnet.com -- ---- http://www.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ ---- "I waited for the Lord on high/I waited and He heard my cry." - Petra -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBNe111IjYza302vYpAQGSCwMAkvbhspgvwkCHn9GHFvkn/z/7gkP09yY/ ggMSb0akJXOnwlKqv6aZ3d05+Ac+t5IQ23qXESY9vXmCudGoEFjzdpG0+v33YPl1 AaJSC/lcXhstjt6KnU/VraSfBkDE4Seq =Ho1Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 12:29:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19129 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA18953 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:29:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA08981; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:30:45 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199809021930.PAA08981@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver To: vance@usq.edu.au (Christopher JS Vance) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980902042906.506.qmail@usq.edu.au> from "Christopher JS Vance" at Sep 2, 98 02:29:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Christopher JS Vance had to walk into mine and say: > Bill Paul wrote: > | Okay people, it's been some time since I put the xl0 driver in > | -current > | and -stable. I need to know if people are having problems with the > | driver > | or not. So far I've gotten startlingly little feedback. This either > | means > | that it's working so well that nobody has had any trouble with it, or > | you guys are all just slackers and are too lazy to speak up. > > I get a kernel panic. I didn't actually try the new kernel till > several days after the discussion started... *sigh* > | - What kind of adapter you have. Note that a 3c905-TX is NOT THE SAME > | as a 3c905B-TX. (See the 'B'? It makes a difference.) Double and > | triple > | check the model. Don't tell me you have a 3c905B when you actually > | only > | have a 3c905. If you want to be really nice, do 'dmesg | grep xl' > | and > | show me the output. > > My handwritten copy of what the 2.2.7-STABLE kernel (with -dv) gives > on reboot just before the panic is: > > xl0 <3Com 3c900 Etherlink XL 10BaseT Combo> rev 0 int a irq 11 on > pci0:9:0 > mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000e000 size=0040. > xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:97:a4:18:de > xl0: media options word: e138 > xl0: found 10BaseT > xl0: found AUI > xl0: found BNC > xl0: unknown XCVR type: 14 > ifmedia_set: no match for 0x100026/0xffffffff > panic: ifmedia_set This is not normal: 14 is not a proper transceiver selection value as far as I can tell. Why your EEPROM has this value programmed into it I can't say, but it's not right. Grr. Looks like another oddball condition I have to test for. Does it always report the same value (14) or does it change from one reboot to the next? I'd like you try a small patch for me. This will modify the xl_mediacheck() routine to also test the XCVR value for sanity and choose a proper default based on the card type. This should at least get the system booted without a panic. I think in your case it will default to 10baseT as the media; you'll need to use ifconfig xl0 media to change it, where is one of 10baseT/UTP, 10base5/AUI or 10base2/BNC (assuming you have a COMBO card, otherwise 10baseT will be right). Please let me know if this works. To apply this patch: - Save this e-mail message to /tmp/xl.diff - cd /sys/pci - patch < /tmp/xl.diff - make a new kernel and boot it -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= *** if_xl.c 1998/08/31 15:13:27 1.37 --- if_xl.c 1998/09/02 19:13:53 *************** *** 1152,1164 **** */ if (sc->xl_media & (XL_MEDIAOPT_MASK & ~XL_MEDIAOPT_VCO)) return; ! printf("xl%d: WARNING: no media options bits set in " ! "the media options register!!\n", sc->xl_unit); ! printf("xl%d: this could be a manufacturing defect in " ! "your adapter or system\n", sc->xl_unit); ! printf("xl%d: attempting to guess media type; you " ! "should probably consult your vendor\n", sc->xl_unit); /* * Read the device ID from the EEPROM. --- 1152,1178 ---- */ if (sc->xl_media & (XL_MEDIAOPT_MASK & ~XL_MEDIAOPT_VCO)) return; + else { + printf("xl%d: WARNING: no media options bits set in " + "the media options register!!\n", sc->xl_unit); + printf("xl%d: this could be a manufacturing defect in " + "your adapter or system\n", sc->xl_unit); + printf("xl%d: attempting to guess media type; you " + "should probably consult your vendor\n", sc->xl_unit); + } ! /* ! * Check the XCVR value. If it's not in the normal range ! * of values, we need to fake it up here. ! */ ! if (sc->xl_xcvr <= XL_XCVR_AUTO) ! return; ! else { ! printf("xl%d: warning: bogus xcvr value in EEPROM (%x)\n", ! sc->xl_unit, sc->xl_xcvr); ! printf("xl%d: choosing new default based on card type\n", ! sc->xl_unit); ! } /* * Read the device ID from the EEPROM. *************** *** 1171,1194 **** --- 1185,1213 ---- case TC_DEVICEID_BOOMERANG_10BT: /* 3c900-TP */ case TC_DEVICEID_CYCLONE_10BT: /* 3c905B-TP */ sc->xl_media = XL_MEDIAOPT_BT; + sc->xl_xcvr = XL_XCVR_10BT; printf("xl%d: guessing 10BaseT transceiver\n", sc->xl_unit); break; case TC_DEVICEID_BOOMERANG_10BT_COMBO: /* 3c900-COMBO */ case TC_DEVICEID_CYCLONE_10BT_COMBO: /* 3c905B-COMBO */ sc->xl_media = XL_MEDIAOPT_BT|XL_MEDIAOPT_BNC|XL_MEDIAOPT_AUI; + sc->xl_xcvr = XL_XCVR_10BT; printf("xl%d: guessing COMBO (AUI/BNC/TP)\n", sc->xl_unit); break; case TC_DEVICEID_BOOMERANG_10_100BT: /* 3c905-TX */ sc->xl_media = XL_MEDIAOPT_MII; + sc->xl_xcvr = XL_XCVR_MII; printf("xl%d: guessing MII\n", sc->xl_unit); break; case TC_DEVICEID_BOOMERANG_100BT4: /* 3c905-T4 */ case TC_DEVICEID_CYCLONE_10_100BT4: /* 3c905B-T4 */ sc->xl_media = XL_MEDIAOPT_BT4; + sc->xl_xcvr = XL_XCVR_MII; printf("xl%d: guessing 100BaseT4/MII\n", sc->xl_unit); break; case TC_DEVICEID_CYCLONE_10_100BT: /* 3c905B-TX */ sc->xl_media = XL_MEDIAOPT_BTX; + sc->xl_xcvr = XL_XCVR_AUTO; printf("xl%d: guessing 10/100 internal\n", sc->xl_unit); break; default: *************** *** 1388,1398 **** printf("xl%d: media options word: %x\n", sc->xl_unit, sc->xl_media); - xl_mediacheck(sc); - xl_read_eeprom(sc, (char *)&sc->xl_xcvr, XL_EE_ICFG_0, 2, 0); sc->xl_xcvr &= XL_ICFG_CONNECTOR_MASK; sc->xl_xcvr >>= XL_ICFG_CONNECTOR_BITS; if (sc->xl_media & XL_MEDIAOPT_MII || sc->xl_media & XL_MEDIAOPT_BTX || sc->xl_media & XL_MEDIAOPT_BT4) { /* --- 1407,1418 ---- printf("xl%d: media options word: %x\n", sc->xl_unit, sc->xl_media); xl_read_eeprom(sc, (char *)&sc->xl_xcvr, XL_EE_ICFG_0, 2, 0); sc->xl_xcvr &= XL_ICFG_CONNECTOR_MASK; sc->xl_xcvr >>= XL_ICFG_CONNECTOR_BITS; + + xl_mediacheck(sc); + if (sc->xl_media & XL_MEDIAOPT_MII || sc->xl_media & XL_MEDIAOPT_BTX || sc->xl_media & XL_MEDIAOPT_BT4) { /* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 12:37:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20807 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ls.wustl.edu (ls.wustl.edu [128.252.251.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20801 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 12:37:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drbrowns@ls.wustl.edu) Received: from localhost (drbrowns@localhost) by ls.wustl.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA05922 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:34:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from drbrowns@ls.wustl.edu) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:34:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Daniel R. Brownstone" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: error message -- scsi probs? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone tell me what the error message below is trying to tell me? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 01:00:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Root Operator Subject: ls security check output checking setuid files and devices: checking for uids of 0: root 0 toor 0 ls kernel log messages: > st0(ahc0:6:0): SCB 0x7 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, SCSISIGI == 0x0 > SEQADDR = 0x5 SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x5 SSTAT1 = 0xa > st0(ahc0:6:0): Queueing an Abort SCB > st0(ahc0:6:0): Abort Message Sent > st0(ahc0:6:0): SCB 7 - Abort Completed. > st0(ahc0:6:0): no longer in timeout > st0(ahc0:6:0): SCB 0x4 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, SCSISIGI == 0x0 > SEQADDR = 0x4 SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x5 SSTAT1 = 0xa > st0(ahc0:6:0): Queueing an Abort SCB > st0(ahc0:6:0): Abort Message Sent > st0(ahc0:6:0): SCB 4 - Abort Completed. > st0(ahc0:6:0): no longer in timeout > st0(ahc0:6:0): SCB 0x4 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, SCSISIGI == 0x0 > SEQADDR = 0x6 SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x5 SSTAT1 = 0xa > st0(ahc0:6:0): Queueing an Abort SCB > st0(ahc0:6:0): Abort Message Sent > st0(ahc0:6:0): SCB 4 - Abort Completed. > st0(ahc0:6:0): no longer in timeout > st0(ahc0:6:0): SCB 0x4 - timed out while idle, LASTPHASE == 0x1, SCSISIGI == 0x0 > SEQADDR = 0x8 SCSISEQ = 0x12 SSTAT0 = 0x5 SSTAT1 = 0xa > st0(ahc0:6:0): Queueing an Abort SCB > st0(ahc0:6:0): Abort Message Sent > st0(ahc0:6:0): SCB 4 - Abort Completed. > st0(ahc0:6:0): no longer in timeout ls login failures: ls refused connections: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 13:12:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25365 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:12:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25240 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:11:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA22161; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:10:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id WAA02062; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:10:49 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980902221048.51211@follo.net> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:10:48 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Drew Derbyshire Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable References: <35ECBA50.D3146ED2@kew.com> <5312.904715722@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <5312.904715722@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Tue, Sep 01, 1998 at 10:55:22PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 01, 1998 at 10:55:22PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >The reason I gave up my commit privs without ever having committed anything is > >all the time I would have spent hacking FreeBSD I spent reading the CVS logs. > > Unfortunate, and perhaps a requirement, but true. > > Gosh, I wonder how the other 100+ committers seem to manage it. :-) Mail filters - what else? :-) Eivind, who wonder how the people that DON'T use filters manage... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 13:37:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29568 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29544 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:37:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19339; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 13:36:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35EDAC51.E43D90EF@dal.net> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 13:36:33 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0827 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Knoll CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Knoll wrote: > > Atleast in my case, possibly others, reading -stable's list constantly, > and sorting out the important stuff is not always possible. Ocationally, > I'll leave for a few months, come back wanting to update, but building > fails. Well then nothing personal, but you shouldn't be following -Stable if that's the case. Every "few months" there is (or should be) a -Release version. If you only want to pay attention to the issues involved in upgrading every few months then that's where you should aim. There is nothing wrong with not following -Stable and using -Release, but if you don't follow -Stable and it bites you in the ass, don't look for anyone to be following you around with Bactine. :) Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** At Barry (a small town in south Wales) hidden cameras have had to be installed to keep watch on the town's CCTV [Closed Circuit Television] to record acts of vandalism against the CCTV. - Privacy Forum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 14:13:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04226 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:13:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lafcol (lafcol.lafayette.edu [139.147.8.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04219 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:13:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from knollm@lafcol.lafayette.edu) Received: from localhost by lafcol (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA07780; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:10:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:10:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Knoll To: Studded cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable In-Reply-To: <35EDAC51.E43D90EF@dal.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I drop off the edge of the earth rarely, but it happens. And still, the issues of not getting information on critical changes would still occur if I'm tracking release or stable. Mike On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Studded wrote: > Mike Knoll wrote: > > > > Atleast in my case, possibly others, reading -stable's list constantly, > > and sorting out the important stuff is not always possible. Ocationally, > > I'll leave for a few months, come back wanting to update, but building > > fails. > > Well then nothing personal, but you shouldn't be following -Stable if > that's the case. Every "few months" there is (or should be) a -Release > version. If you only want to pay attention to the issues involved in > upgrading every few months then that's where you should aim. There is > nothing wrong with not following -Stable and using -Release, but if you > don't follow -Stable and it bites you in the ass, don't look for anyone > to be following you around with Bactine. :) > > Doug > -- > *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** > > At Barry (a small town in south Wales) hidden cameras have had to be > installed to keep watch on the town's CCTV [Closed Circuit Television] > to record acts of vandalism against the CCTV. - Privacy Forum > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 14:24:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07040 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:24:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07013 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:24:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19916; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:23:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35EDB744.28F4855F@dal.net> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 14:23:16 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0827 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Knoll CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Knoll wrote: > > Well, I drop off the edge of the earth rarely, but it happens. And still, > the issues of not getting information on critical changes would still > occur if I'm tracking release or stable. I had intended to mention in my last post that we have been workign hard since 2.2.6 to include critical information about the upgrade in (for example) ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.7-RELEASE/UPGRADE.TXT. This file should contain the type of "won't work unless you do this" information that you are looking for. The other *.TXT documents include info on important changes from -Release to -Release, etc. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** At Barry (a small town in south Wales) hidden cameras have had to be installed to keep watch on the town's CCTV [Closed Circuit Television] to record acts of vandalism against the CCTV. - Privacy Forum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 14:24:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07137 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:24:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Post-Office.UH.EDU (Post-Office.UH.EDU [129.7.1.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07104 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zdenko@CS.UH.EDU) Received: from CS.UH.EDU (zeus.cs.uh.edu) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.1-12 #U2811) with SMTP id <0EYO006LZE3DQY@Post-Office.UH.EDU> for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:23:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from blackbird.CS.UH.EDU by CS.UH.EDU (COSC/UH-zeus) id AA08237; Wed, 02 Sep 1998 16:23:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: by blackbird.CS.UH.EDU (4.1/UH-4.1) id AA13134; Wed, 02 Sep 1998 16:23:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 16:23:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Zdenko Tomasic Subject: make buildworld fails, just cvsup'd 2.2.7 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: zdenko@CS.UH.EDU Message-id: <9809022123.AA08237@CS.UH.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is the bottom of make buildworld display: .... ===> data /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bison/data created for /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bison/data ===> doc /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bison/doc created for /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/bison/doc cd /usr/src/usr.bin/ar && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make depend && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPROFILE all && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPROFILE -B install cleandir obj rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/usr.bin/ar -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/append.c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/ar.c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/archive.c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/contents.c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/delete.c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/extract.c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/misc.c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/move.c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/print.c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/replace.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/ar -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/append.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/ar -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/ar.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/ar -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/archive.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/ar -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/contents.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/ar -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/delete.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/ar -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/extract.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/ar -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/misc.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/ar -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/move.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/ar -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/print.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/ar -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/ar/replace.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/ar -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -o ar append.o ar.o archive.o contents.o delete.o extract.o misc.o move.o print.o replace.o install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 ar /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/ar created for /usr/src/usr.bin/ar cd /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make depend && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPROFILE all && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPROFILE -B install cleandir obj lex -l -t /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/et_lex.lex.l > et_lex.lex.c yacc -d -o error_table.c /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../lib/libcom_err -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/compile_et.c error_table.c cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../lib/libcom_err -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/compile_et.c cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../lib/libcom_err -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c error_table.c In file included from /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:72: error_table.h:8: conflicting types for `YYSTYPE' /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:10: previous declaration of `YYSTYPE' error_table.h:9: conflicting types for `yylval' error_table.c:121: previous declaration of `yylval' /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y: In function `char_to_num': /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:198: `ERRCODE_RANGE' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:198: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:198: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y: In function `set_table_num': /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:230: `BITS_PER_CHAR' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:234: `ERRCODE_RANGE' undeclared (first use this function) error_table.c: In function `yygrowstack': error_table.c:325: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type error_table.c:326: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type error_table.c: In function `yyparse': error_table.c:390: incompatible types in assignment error_table.c:431: incompatible types in assignment *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 14:36:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09841 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-server.rccc.cc.nc.us ([198.85.212.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09830 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:36:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd-stable@rccc.cc.nc.us) Received: from rccc.cc.nc.us (166.82.240.174) by mail-server.rccc.cc.nc.us (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Wed, 02 Sep 1998 17:38:12 -0400 Message-ID: <35EDBA95.C1ACEE39@rccc.cc.nc.us> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 17:37:25 -0400 From: FreeBSD Stable X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jan B. Koum" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world died References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jan B. Koum wrote: > Hi all, > > Just did CVSup on a fresh (2.2.7) system. Running make world died: > > cc -O -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../lib/libcom_err snip > error_table.c:121: previous declaration of `yylval' > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y: In function `char_to_num': > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:198: `ERRCODE_RANGE' undeclared > (first use this function) > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:198: (Each undeclared identifier > is reported only once > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:198: for each function it > appears in.) > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y: In function `set_table_num': > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:230: `BITS_PER_CHAR' undeclared > (first use this function) > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:234: `ERRCODE_RANGE' undeclared > (first use this function) > error_table.c: In function `yygrowstack': > error_table.c:325: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type > error_table.c:326: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type > error_table.c: In function `yyparse': > error_table.c:390: incompatible types in assignment > error_table.c:431: incompatible types in assignment > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. I seem to have a similar problem. How can I get my make world to complete? Thanks, Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 14:56:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12216 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:56:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-server.rccc.cc.nc.us ([198.85.212.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12209 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 14:56:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd-stable@rccc.cc.nc.us) Received: from rccc.cc.nc.us (166.82.240.165) by mail-server.rccc.cc.nc.us (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Wed, 02 Sep 1998 17:58:06 -0400 Message-ID: <35EDBF2A.170410EC@rccc.cc.nc.us> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 17:56:58 -0400 From: FreeBSD Stable X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jan B. Koum" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world died References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a fix for this make world failure? TIA, Jim Jan B. Koum wrote: > Hi all, > > Just did CVSup on a fresh (2.2.7) system. Running make world died: > > cc -O -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../lib/libcom_err > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/compile_et.c > cc -O -I. -I/usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/../../lib/libcom_err > -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c error_table.c > In file included from /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:72: > error_table.h:8: conflicting types for `YYSTYPE' > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:10: previous declaration of > `YYSTYPE' > error_table.h:9: conflicting types for `yylval' > error_table.c:121: previous declaration of `yylval' > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y: In function `char_to_num': > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:198: `ERRCODE_RANGE' undeclared > (first use this function) > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:198: (Each undeclared identifier > is reported only once > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:198: for each function it > appears in.) > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y: In function `set_table_num': > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:230: `BITS_PER_CHAR' undeclared > (first use this function) > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y:234: `ERRCODE_RANGE' undeclared > (first use this function) > error_table.c: In function `yygrowstack': > error_table.c:325: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type > error_table.c:326: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type > error_table.c: In function `yyparse': > error_table.c:390: incompatible types in assignment > error_table.c:431: incompatible types in assignment > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Odd thing is.. Going throug my CVSup logs I find: > > c src/usr.bin/compile_et/et_name.c,v RELENG_2_2 . > 2#871#19#8688036454#21503#444 > c src/usr.bin/compile_et/init_et.c,v RELENG_2_2 . > 2#871#19#8688036464#27243#444 > C src/usr.bin/compile_et/mit-sipb-copyright.h,v RELENG_2_2 . > 2#871#19#9010270884#15053#444 1.1 95.01.14.22.29.34 > 2#871#19#7901225743#7693#644 > c src/usr.bin/compile_et/perror.c,v RELENG_2_2 . > 2#871#19#8688036464#27073#444 > D src/usr.bin/compile_et/test > > etc.. However, most of those files are not in > /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et now. What does c, C, D letter at the beginign > mean? I guess I should rtfm that cvsup man page now. :) > > -- Yan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 15:37:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18440 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:37:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-server.rccc.cc.nc.us ([198.85.212.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA18429 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:37:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd-stable@rccc.cc.nc.us) Received: from rccc.cc.nc.us (166.82.240.124) by mail-server.rccc.cc.nc.us (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:39:13 -0400 Message-ID: <35EDC8E2.F514C4D7@rccc.cc.nc.us> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 18:38:26 -0400 From: Jim Hodges X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Polstra CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world died References: <199809022146.OAA25339@austin.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've removed /usr/obj and /usr/src. Re cvsup'ed and still have the same problem. This was a new install from 2.2.7-release, then cvsuped. Thanks, Jim John Polstra wrote: > > Hey John, would you happen to know how to fix this make world > > problem? I'm kind of in a holding pattern here. > > If I had to guess, I'd say you've got old stale stuff in your > /usr/obj tree. Remove everything there so that /usr/obj is an empty > directory. Then try the make world again. > > John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 16:39:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28927 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:39:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28921 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:39:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@best.com) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with SMTP id QAA24160; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:38:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:38:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jan B. Koum " X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: Matthew Reimer cc: rhuff@cybercom.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fixed (Was Re: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE buildworld fails) In-Reply-To: <35EDB9B1.E7A01564@vpop.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmm.. your makefile didn't work either. What I did was commented out: #include "error_table.h" on line 72 of file /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y and also added: #define ERRCODE_RANGE 8 /* # of bits to shift table number */ #define BITS_PER_CHAR 6 /* # bits to shift per character in name */ at the top of that file. Compiles fine. God only know what this breaks. -- Yan "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." Mark Twain On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Matthew Reimer wrote: >I had the same problem, but it disappeared when I copied the Makefile >from current to /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et. > >Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 17:11:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04081 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fandago.read.tasc.com (fandago.read.tasc.com [147.81.240.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04075 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from icooper@protopong.read.tasc.com) Received: from protopong.read.tasc.com (protopong.read.tasc.com [147.81.246.230]) by fandago.read.tasc.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA27558 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by protopong.read.tasc.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA10636; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:09:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:09:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199809030009.UAA10636@protopong.read.tasc.com> From: Ira Cooper To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Patch to 2.2.7-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG to the makefile in src/usr.bin/compile_et apply: --- cut here --- --- Makefile.orig Wed Sep 2 19:57:40 1998 +++ Makefile Wed Sep 2 19:57:52 1998 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ PROG= compile_et SRCS= compile_et.c error_table.y -CFLAGS+= -I. -I${.CURDIR}/../../lib/libcom_err +CFLAGS+= -I${.CURDIR}/../../lib/libcom_err -I. CLEANFILES+= et_lex.lex.c y.tab.h DPADD+= ${LIBL} LDADD+= -ll --- cut here --- I don't know if this will allow the whole system to build because my machine takes, 4hr. to build world... I'll finish it overnight. If it suffers another break of the same type... a similar fix might get it. Problem: error_table.h needed to be pulled from ${.CURDIR}/../../lib/libcom_err and yacc via the current build process was generating it, and the build using it, thus things broke. BTW: This break was documented as a POSSIBLITY in the commit logs for bsd.dep.mk/bsd.prog.mk. :( (The case of a shadowed include file.) -Ira To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 18:20:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14236 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:20:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from claret.cisco.com (claret.cisco.com [161.44.2.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14230 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:20:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fty@cisco.com) Received: (fty@localhost) by claret.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) id VAA25476 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:19:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Message-Id: <199809030119.VAA25476@claret.cisco.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 8mm tape block size max - changed? X-Face: ,fjtWiMPydUaSQl%8[eTg`u:^BXt&T)Sny(6w\*U"5D9H[Z$kG%Q/z;Z=NwrPiXf-aMF3R) Rsand$,]26-8>5@HD(A3A79gN|0%NHsdek4mT8E,>j+\w!~d2#nH;~NV!5a0"`5$Cj8d\or(Jy/JQ_ |uc;C[filmZ(~#lre*l:|O%d/PJFy`.5w8)sMZ-)QI3TaV"j'k X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks - I recently upgraded from 2.0.x where I routinely used a block size of 128b with tar and dump. Using 2.1.7 I get: st0: 64512-byte record too big when I try to read the old tapes. Now I have all these old tapes I can't read. Am I missing something? TIA - Frank \\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\ Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Cisco Systems, Inc. Cat3900 Software Team 7025 Kit Creek Road PO Box 14987 Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 fty@cisco.com voice (919)472-2101 FAX (919)472-2940 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 18:53:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19490 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:53:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.hkstar.com (cassiopeia.hkstar.com [202.82.3.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19458; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:52:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwanalex@hkstar.com) Received: from home ([202.82.192.62]) by smtp.hkstar.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA21723; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:51:31 +0800 (HKT) X-Authentication-Warning: cassiopeia.hkstar.com: Host [202.82.192.62] claimed to be home Message-ID: <000b01bdd6dd$90fa9660$0300a8c0@home> From: "Alex Kwan" To: Cc: Subject: How to add route Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:52:43 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I am building a LAN with FreeBSD, and that is no need to connect to another LAN, I alreay have setup the hosts, and I ping the loopback, it is o.k. but I can't ping the host the error is being that I have not add route I use the linux command (I was a linux user before) : route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 ed0 but it is not work with FreeBSD, how to add route in FreeBSD? Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 19:23:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24443 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:23:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calis.BlackSun.org (slip-ppp-4-198.escape.com [205.160.46.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24424 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:23:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA10090; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:22:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:22:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Don To: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 8mm tape block size max - changed? In-Reply-To: <199809030119.VAA25476@claret.cisco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I recently upgraded from 2.0.x where I routinely used a block size of > 128b with tar and dump. Using 2.1.7 Why are there so many older freebsd installations around? Isnt FreeBSD up to version 2.2.7-STABLE? -don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 19:29:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25582 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:29:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calis.BlackSun.org (slip-ppp-4-198.escape.com [205.160.46.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25577; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:29:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA10097; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:28:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:28:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Don To: Alex Kwan cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route In-Reply-To: <000b01bdd6dd$90fa9660$0300a8c0@home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I use the linux command (I was a linux user before) : > route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 ed0 the command should be: route add -net -netmask -interface or in your case: route add -net 192.168.1.0 -netmask 255.255.255.0 -interface ed0 the -interface flag is required for the route addition and netmask requires a - in front of it to signal the flag. -don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 20:03:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00948 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:03:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00932; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:03:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0zEPeg-0006uF-00; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:01:50 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:01:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Don cc: Alex Kwan , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Don wrote: > > I use the linux command (I was a linux user before) : > > route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 ed0 > the command should be: > route add -net -netmask -interface > or in your case: > route add -net 192.168.1.0 -netmask 255.255.255.0 -interface ed0 In most cases the "-net" bit is not required. "Classic UNIX" route syntax is: route add 192.168.1.0 192.168.1.1 (where 192.168.1.1 is the gateway). When UNIX went classless, the "-netmask" param was added, so the netmask of the route could be specified. Since then most Unixes have adopted (including FreeBSD) the more convienent, "/bits" syntax: route add 192.168.1.0/24 192.168.1.1 > the -interface flag is required for the route addition and netmask Interface flags is NOT required. The interface should always be implied by the gateway address anyhow. Using the "-interface" flag can do funny things. In fact, it is only recent that "-interface" even works on FreeBSD. > requires a - in front of it to signal the flag. > > -don Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 20:38:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05358 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:38:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calis.BlackSun.org (slip-ppp-4-198.escape.com [205.160.46.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05353 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:38:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA10185; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:37:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:37:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Don To: Tom cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > the -interface flag is required for the route addition and netmask > Interface flags is NOT required. The interface should always be implied > by the gateway address anyhow. Using the "-interface" flag can do funny > things. In fact, it is only recent that "-interface" even works on > FreeBSD. (I said the interface flag was required due to the syntax being used in the original question (ie specifying the interface at the end of the command), But it is not usually the format I use) I usually add routes by using the format: route add / But What about in the case of the the localnet? When adding a route for the local network I have always used: route add / -interface Should i instead be specifying the localhost as the gateway? -Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 20:58:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07705 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:58:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calis.BlackSun.org (slip-ppp-4-198.escape.com [205.160.46.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07690 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:58:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA10253; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:57:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:57:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Don To: Tom cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I usually add routes by using the format: > route add / > > But What about in the case of the the localnet? > When adding a route for the local network I have always used: > route add / -interface Forget I even asked this :) I have no idea why i was trying to add a route to the localnet. I have to stay off my system when it is late :) -Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 21:11:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09805 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from SchematiX.net (schematix.net [24.234.31.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09790 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:11:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Received: from localhost (scott@localhost) by SchematiX.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA00317; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:07:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:07:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott To: Don cc: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 8mm tape block size max - changed? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Most people don't bother to upgrade since their systems work perfectly fine using the old versions. Just a matter of personal preference or whether or not one has the luxury to rebuild the system. On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Don wrote: > > I recently upgraded from 2.0.x where I routinely used a block size of > > 128b with tar and dump. Using 2.1.7 > Why are there so many older freebsd installations around? Isnt FreeBSD up > to version 2.2.7-STABLE? > > -don > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 21:30:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11828 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:30:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11823 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09095; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:29:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Don cc: Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Sep 1998 23:37:53 EDT." Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 21:29:41 -0700 Message-ID: <9092.904796981@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks - please don't use the stable list as a repository for Q&A. That's done in the questions mailing list. When you see a question being misfiled thusly to -stable, -current or -hackers, please redirect the poster (privately) to -questions so that we can keep the signal-to-noise ratio on the aformentioned list as high as possible. Thanks. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 21:59:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14503 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:59:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hobbes.saturn-tech.com (hobbes.saturn-tech.com [207.229.19.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14497 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:58:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) Received: from localhost (drussell@localhost) by hobbes.saturn-tech.com (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA06682; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:57:35 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:57:35 -0600 (MDT) From: Doug Russell To: Jim Hodges cc: John Polstra , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world died In-Reply-To: <35EDC8E2.F514C4D7@rccc.cc.nc.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Jim Hodges wrote: > I've removed /usr/obj and /usr/src. Re cvsup'ed and still have the same > problem. This was a new install from 2.2.7-release, then cvsuped. Sheez... Is there something wrong with the lists? I have been getting hardly any mail, enough that I finally got smart and went and fetched ftp://freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/mailing-lists/archives/freebsd-stable and found that I am not the only one having this problem. Here I've been searching and cvsupping all day and night since last evening trying to build.... I just tried it on a third machine to no avail and I knew something had to be wrong. What the heck is going on here? I see recent activity in that area of the tree, but I can't make heads or tails of what is going on. Oh, gotta run... Majordomo just replied to my which command. :) At least I can try to figure my mail problem out now while I wait for someone who knows what they are doing to let us in on the secret. :) Later...... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 22:10:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15679 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hobbes.saturn-tech.com (hobbes.saturn-tech.com [207.229.19.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15674 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) Received: from localhost (drussell@localhost) by hobbes.saturn-tech.com (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA06761; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:08:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:08:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Doug Russell To: drussell@saturn-tech.com cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world died In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Doug Russell wrote: > On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Jim Hodges wrote: > > > I've removed /usr/obj and /usr/src. Re cvsup'ed and still have the same > > problem. This was a new install from 2.2.7-release, then cvsuped. > > Sheez... Is there something wrong with the lists? I have been getting > hardly any mail, enough that I finally got smart and went and fetched ... > Oh, gotta run... Majordomo just replied to my which command. :) Did something go wierd with the lists? I am now in the process of re-subscribing to the 9 lists from which I disappeared. :) If (when) there is a solution found, could someone please cc: to me in case I don't manage to get every message.... Thanks! Later...... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 22:32:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17626 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:32:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hobbes.saturn-tech.com (hobbes.saturn-tech.com [207.229.19.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17616 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:32:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) Received: from localhost (drussell@localhost) by hobbes.saturn-tech.com (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA06908; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:31:05 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:31:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Doug Russell To: Ira Cooper cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patch to 2.2.7-STABLE In-Reply-To: <199809030009.UAA10636@protopong.read.tasc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Ira Cooper wrote: > I don't know if this will allow the whole system to build because my > machine takes, 4hr. to build world... I'll finish it overnight. Hmm... On this K6 it dies 8 minutes and fifty some odd seconds into the build each time. (Granted, on the 486/120 in my bedroom it took 54 minutes before it got to that point... of course, that is with /usr/src mounted nfs.) > BTW: This break was documented as a POSSIBLITY in the commit logs for > bsd.dep.mk/bsd.prog.mk. :( (The case of a shadowed include file.) That twigged in the back of my head... I even tried updating my system's .mk files, whacking things around all over, and I still never got it to run. I was going to just do a hack to the makefile to remove the -I that goes to the obj/usr... error_table.h file so it uses the one in . (or whatever the other directory is, I can't remember off the top of my head... one of the src include dirs, wherever the main copy is...) Obviously the thing is getting yacced wrong now... I just didn't want to go doing half-assed hack patching if there was a real solution. I'm going to go fiddle some more... :) Later...... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 22:46:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19661 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:46:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lafcol (lafcol.lafayette.edu [139.147.8.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA19656 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:46:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from knollm@lafcol.lafayette.edu) Received: from localhost by lafcol (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA15143; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:43:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:43:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Knoll To: Studded cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable In-Reply-To: <35EDB744.28F4855F@dal.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay. But, the problem of not getting critical changes in -stable would still occur to someone who intends to keep up with it solidly. If someone starts with the latest release, isthere no information for them to make the initial jump to -stable? Mike On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Studded wrote: > Mike Knoll wrote: > > > > Well, I drop off the edge of the earth rarely, but it happens. And still, > > the issues of not getting information on critical changes would still > > occur if I'm tracking release or stable. > > I had intended to mention in my last post that we have been workign > hard since 2.2.6 to include critical information about the upgrade in > (for example) > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.7-RELEASE/UPGRADE.TXT. This file > should contain the type of "won't work unless you do this" information > that you are looking for. The other *.TXT documents include info on > important changes from -Release to -Release, etc. > > Doug > -- > *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** > > At Barry (a small town in south Wales) hidden cameras have had to be > installed to keep watch on the town's CCTV [Closed Circuit Television] > to record acts of vandalism against the CCTV. - Privacy Forum > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 22:49:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20225 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:49:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles138.castles.com [208.214.165.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20205 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:49:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00404; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:45:37 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809022245.WAA00404@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Don cc: Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Sep 1998 23:37:53 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 22:45:36 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I usually add routes by using the format: > route add / > > But What about in the case of the the localnet? > When adding a route for the local network I have always used: > route add / -interface > > Should i instead be specifying the localhost as the gateway? You don't add routes for directly connected networks; there's an implicit route courtesy of the existence of the interface. I think this is contra to the way Linux works (requiring an explicit route for anything). -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 2 23:28:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27687 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:28:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeus.tassie.net.au (zeus.tassie.net.au [203.19.156.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27674 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:28:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@tassie.net.au) From: freebsd-stable@tassie.net.au Received: from zeus.tassie.net.au (zeus.tassie.net.au [203.19.156.71]) by zeus.tassie.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA27128 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:26:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@tassie.net.au) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:26:16 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199809030626.QAA27128@zeus.tassie.net.au> X-Authentication-Warning: zeus.tassie.net.au: zeus.tassie.net.au [203.19.156.71] didn't use HELO protocol To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SUBSCRIBE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 00:00:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01969 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:00:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01949 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:00:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA17548; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:18:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:18:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: Mike Smith cc: Don , Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route In-Reply-To: <199809022245.WAA00404@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > Should i instead be specifying the localhost as the gateway? > > You don't add routes for directly connected networks; there's an > implicit route courtesy of the existence of the interface. > > I think this is contra to the way Linux works (requiring an explicit > route for anything). What about if the ethernet had two IP addresses, one from each Class C or CIDR/24 block, is there any way to specify default routes for the two addresses for packets outgoing so it knows which upstream provider to use if we have two T1 links? Thanks. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 00:42:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06143 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:42:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (user-37kbvs3.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.255.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06138 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:42:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost.mindspring.com [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA23255; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:42:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:42:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: Vincent Poy cc: Mike Smith , Don , Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Vincent Poy wrote: > On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Should i instead be specifying the localhost as the gateway? > > > > You don't add routes for directly connected networks; there's an > > implicit route courtesy of the existence of the interface. > > > > I think this is contra to the way Linux works (requiring an explicit > > route for anything). > > What about if the ethernet had two IP addresses, one from each > Class C or CIDR/24 block, is there any way to specify default routes for > the two addresses for packets outgoing so it knows which upstream provider > to use if we have two T1 links? Thanks. ummm...yeah...get a decent router, and learn how to configure BGP? I do it for a living... -Jon -- opinions? cat creative_criticism >/dev/ponder cat flames >/dev/null -- J.D. Mischo -- SuperTaz -- DexNation Holodream -- dex@wankers.net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 00:43:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06208 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:43:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06202 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:43:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA17738; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:01:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:01:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: Dexnation Holodream cc: Mike Smith , Don , Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Dexnation Holodream wrote: > On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Vincent Poy wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > Should i instead be specifying the localhost as the gateway? > > > > > > You don't add routes for directly connected networks; there's an > > > implicit route courtesy of the existence of the interface. > > > > > > I think this is contra to the way Linux works (requiring an explicit > > > route for anything). > > > > What about if the ethernet had two IP addresses, one from each > > Class C or CIDR/24 block, is there any way to specify default routes for > > the two addresses for packets outgoing so it knows which upstream provider > > to use if we have two T1 links? Thanks. > > ummm...yeah...get a decent router, and learn how to configure BGP? I do > it for a living... I forgot to mention that this machine is already a decent router utilizing a ET 4 Port PCI Router card.. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 00:57:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA08068 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:57:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wankers.net (user-37kbvs3.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.255.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08060 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:57:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Received: from localhost (dex@localhost.mindspring.com [127.0.0.1]) by wankers.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA23849; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:59:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dex@wankers.net) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:59:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Dexnation Holodream X-Sender: dex@localhost To: Vincent Poy cc: Mike Smith , Don , Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Vincent Poy wrote: [*sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice*] > I forgot to mention that this machine is already a decent router > utilizing a ET 4 Port PCI Router card.. That's not a decent router...that's a decent box routing...a good router is a lot more efficient than a box that's routing packets...now...there is, of COURSE an easy way, but if you have more than 1 T1 on the same ether segment, and only one interface on that segment, your box will NOT be routing between them, generally...they need to be on sep. interfaces. Now, any decent router you can add routes to do it...that's what BGP is for...you probably won't be advertising any BGP, but you'll more likely than not be seeing it. Your router will handle it from there. Assuming you REALLY want to route on the box, and ignore the routers that are sitting there, you can add a handful of static routes, but that is the WRONG way to do it. -Jon -- opinions? cat creative_criticism >/dev/ponder cat flames >/dev/null -- J.D. Mischo -- SuperTaz -- DexNation Holodream -- dex@wankers.net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 01:10:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09446 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:10:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09437 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:10:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id BAA22458; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:09:32 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199809030809.BAA22458@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: 8mm tape block size max - changed? To: scott@SchematiX.net (Scott) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:09:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: don@calis.BlackSun.org, fty@cisco.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Scott at "Sep 2, 98 09:07:25 pm" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Most people don't bother to upgrade since their systems work perfectly > fine using the old versions. Just a matter of personal preference or > whether or not one has the luxury to rebuild the system. Or if some port/package exists only for the later O/S version... -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 01:13:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09678 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:13:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09666 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:13:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA17846; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:31:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: Dexnation Holodream cc: Mike Smith , Don , Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Dexnation Holodream wrote: > On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Vincent Poy wrote: > > [*sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice*] > > > I forgot to mention that this machine is already a decent router > > utilizing a ET 4 Port PCI Router card.. > > That's not a decent router...that's a decent box routing...a good router > is a lot more efficient than a box that's routing packets...now...there > is, of COURSE an easy way, but if you have more than 1 T1 on the same > ether segment, and only one interface on that segment, your box will NOT > be routing between them, generally...they need to be on sep. interfaces. > Now, any decent router you can add routes to do it...that's what BGP is > for...you probably won't be advertising any BGP, but you'll more likely > than not be seeing it. Your router will handle it from there. Hmm, the card has 4 interfaces and the Ethernet would make it five interfaces. All incoming packets come in from the correct circuits. And each T1 is on a separate interface. What I meant to say was is there a way around the route add default to be pointing to only one interface or IP like making all packets from 208.164.68.0/24 go out of eth0 and 209.84.252.0/24 go out of eth1. Each interface does have it's own IP. And it's hard to run BGP in a area like Hawaii because the MCI side is truly MCI but the GTE circuit is GTE Internetworking/BBNPlanet but the backbone is UUNet's network and they won't even sell anything other than Frame Relay and refuse to peer with other providers in the Hawaiian islands. > Assuming you REALLY want to route on the box, and ignore the routers that > are sitting there, you can add a handful of static routes, but that is the > WRONG way to do it. Hmmm, it wouldn't really be a handful of static routes because it shouldn't be any more different than a cisco since even on a cisco 2501, you still would need to add static routes to do it. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 02:21:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA17567 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:21:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA17562 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:21:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) id CAA10387; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980903022010.A29645@nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:20:10 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Jan B. Koum " , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world died Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Jan B. Koum on Wed, Sep 02, 1998 at 01:35:15AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Just did CVSup on a fresh (2.2.7) system. Running make world died: As the one who probably broke the build :-( I'm looking into this now. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.ucdavis.edu -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 02:58:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20976 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:58:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.opencreative.com ([202.77.224.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20971 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 02:58:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spencer@gateway.com.hk) Received: from localhost (spencer@localhost) by www.opencreative.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA12602 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:57:30 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:57:29 +0800 (CST) From: Spencer Chan X-Sender: spencer@www.opencreative.com To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: yacc error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, After cvsup -stable to 2.2.5-RELEASE source tree, make world stops complaining the followings : ... install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 ar /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/ar created for /usr/src/usr.bin/ar cd /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make depend && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPROFILE all && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPROFILE -B install cleandir obj lex -l -t /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/et_lex.lex.l > et_lex.lex.c yacc -d -o error_table.c /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y usage: yacc [-dlrtv] [-b file_prefix] [-p symbol_prefix] filename *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. But my yacc do not have the -o option, any help? Regards, Spencer CHAN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 03:14:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23359 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:14:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA23325 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:14:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) id DAA07327 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980903031256.A6042@nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:12:56 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world died Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <19980903022010.A29645@nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19980903022010.A29645@nuxi.com>; from David O'Brien on Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 02:20:10AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is the patch: RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/compile_et/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.5 retrieving revision 1.5.6.1 diff -u -r1.5 -r1.5.6.1 --- Makefile 1995/02/09 00:24:00 1.5 +++ Makefile 1998/09/03 10:10:05 1.5.6.1 @@ -1,7 +1,8 @@ -# $Id: Makefile,v 1.5 1995/02/09 00:24:00 jkh Exp $ +# $Id: Makefile,v 1.5.6.1 1998/09/03 10:10:05 obrien Exp $ PROG= compile_et SRCS= compile_et.c error_table.y +SRCS+= y.tab.h CFLAGS+= -I. -I${.CURDIR}/../../lib/libcom_err CLEANFILES+= et_lex.lex.c y.tab.h To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 03:30:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25247 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:30:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from claret.cisco.com (claret.cisco.com [161.44.2.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25238 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 03:30:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fty@cisco.com) Received: (fty@localhost) by claret.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) id GAA21042; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:28:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Message-Id: <199809031028.GAA21042@claret.cisco.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 8mm tape block size max - changed? Cc: chad@freebie.dcfinc.com, don@calis.BlackSun.org, scott@SchematiX.net X-Face: ,fjtWiMPydUaSQl%8[eTg`u:^BXt&T)Sny(6w\*U"5D9H[Z$kG%Q/z;Z=NwrPiXf-aMF3R) Rsand$,]26-8>5@HD(A3A79gN|0%NHsdek4mT8E,>j+\w!~d2#nH;~NV!5a0"`5$Cj8d\or(Jy/JQ_ |uc;C[filmZ(~#lre*l:|O%d/PJFy`.5w8)sMZ-)QI3TaV"j'k X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The machine is/was an NFS/Samba/DNS/DHCP/Mail server and had uptimes on order of many months. So yes, if it's not broke, don't fix it. It was only when I had trouble compiling some ports, that it was time to upgrade. Now I need to deal with the incompatibilities - like this tape driver issue. Three responses and *no* help - come on folks .. BTW - The tape drive in question is an Exabyte 8500. - Frank >> I recently upgraded from 2.0.x where I routinely used a block size of >> 128b with tar and dump. Using 2.1.7 >Why are there so many older freebsd installations around? Isnt FreeBSD up >to version 2.2.7-STABLE? > >-don > \\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\ Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Cisco Systems, Inc. Cat3900 Software Team 7025 Kit Creek Road PO Box 14987 Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 fty@cisco.com voice (919)472-2101 FAX (919)472-2940 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 05:32:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA09964 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:32:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sonata.hh.kew.com (kendra.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.94.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09940 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from software@kew.com) Received: from ffactory.uucp.kew.com (ffactory.hh.kew.com [192.168.203.131]) by sonata.hh.kew.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA18307; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kew.com by ffactory.uucp.kew.com (UUPC/extended 1.13d) with UUCP for multiple addressees; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:31:01 -0500 Received: from kew.com by ffactory.uucp.kew.com (UUPC/extended 1.13d) with ESMTP for multiple addresses; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:30:59 -0500 Message-ID: <35EE8C03.788874BE@kew.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:30:59 -0400 From: Drew Derbyshire Organization: Kendra Electronic Wonderworks, Stoneham, MA 02180 (http://www.kew.com) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: Requisite steps for tracking -stable References: <5312.904715722@time.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >The reason I gave up my commit privs without ever having committed anything is > >all the time I would have spent hacking FreeBSD I spent reading the CVS logs. > > Unfortunate, and perhaps a requirement, but true. > > Gosh, I wonder how the other 100+ committers seem to manage it. :-) I didn't find this especially funny, especially since I would have preferred to contribute more than I did. I presume the ways to manage it varies: For some, FreeBSD is their only (or main) personal project For some, they paid by their employers to keep up on it. A few (I suspect), don't have a life. A few (I suspect), don't read most of the logs I fall into none of those classes. -ahd- -- Drew Derbyshire UUPC/extended e-mail: software@kew.com Telephone: 617-279-9812 PhD. Biologists cause cancer in laboratory rats. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 06:09:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13145 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:09:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from internationalschool.co.uk (intschool.easynet.co.uk [194.72.37.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA13110 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:09:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@internationalschool.co.uk) Received: from internationalschool.co.uk (bamboo [10.0.0.70]) by internationalschool.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11401; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:03:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35EE93BF.C00195B8@internationalschool.co.uk> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:03:59 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: http://www.internationalschool.co.uk/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Poy CC: Dexnation Holodream , Mike Smith , Don , Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vincent Poy wrote: > each T1 is on a separate interface. What I meant to say was is there a > way around the route add default to be pointing to only one interface or > IP like making all packets from 208.164.68.0/24 go out of eth0 and > 209.84.252.0/24 go out of eth1. Each interface does have it's own IP. have you read http://www.netaxs.com/~freedman/multi.html? (that and other links at http://www.mindspring.com/~jlindsay/bgp.html) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 06:28:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14961 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:28:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (passer.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.110.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14952 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:28:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.8/8.6.10) id GAA14878; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdK14873; Thu Sep 3 06:26:27 1998 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.8.8/8.6.10) id GAA10453; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809031324.GAA10453@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdS10446; Thu Sep 3 06:24:20 1998 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: cy To: Spencer Chan cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: yacc error In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Sep 1998 17:57:29 +0800." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 06:24:17 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi there, > > After cvsup -stable to 2.2.5-RELEASE source tree, make world stops > complaining the followings : > > ... > install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 ar /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin > /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/ar created for /usr/src/usr.bin/ar > cd /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make depend > && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPROFILE all && > /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPROFILE -B install > cleandir obj > lex -l -t /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/et_lex.lex.l > et_lex.lex.c > yacc -d -o error_table.c /usr/src/usr.bin/compile_et/error_table.y > usage: yacc [-dlrtv] [-b file_prefix] [-p symbol_prefix] filename > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > But my yacc do not have the -o option, any help? I suggest that you build yacc from your new source tree and replace your old yacc, then try make world again. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Government of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 07:10:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19436 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:10:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19333 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id QAA11339; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:08:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:08:44 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Jones Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WWW problem with 2.2-stable References: <199808271714.KAA18781@seagull.rtd.com> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which I am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 03 Sep 1998 16:08:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: Tony Jones's message of "Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:14:09 -0700 (MST)" Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id HAA19399 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tony Jones writes: > Initially the problem showed up when browing their Usenet archives > (www2.altavista.digital.com), it would connect (netstat shows socket > in connected state) but no data would ever be recieved (confirmed by > modem lights). Eventually Netscape just times out. Once in a blue > moon, it'll work, but 99% of the time, it fails as above. This reminds me of the MTU discovery problem that was recently discussed on one of the lists. It's not related to the exact site you're trying to connect to, but rather to the path between you and that site (to be exact, to the lowest MTU between you and that site). Try searching the archives (-net, -hackers, -current, -stable). DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 07:58:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26767 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:58:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arjun.niksun.com (gw.niksun.com [206.20.52.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26760 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:57:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ath@niksun.com) Received: from stiegl.niksun.com (stiegl.niksun.com [10.0.0.44]) by arjun.niksun.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28187; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ath@localhost) by stiegl.niksun.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA21174; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:56:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ath) To: Spencer Chan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: yacc error References: From: Andrew Heybey Date: 03 Sep 1998 10:56:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: Spencer Chan's message of Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:57:29 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <85soi92qj8.fsf@stiegl.niksun.com> Lines: 47 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > After cvsup -stable to 2.2.5-RELEASE source tree, make world stops > complaining the followings : > > But my yacc do not have the -o option, any help? > > Regards, > Spencer CHAN > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > I just tried to do exactly the same thing yesterday. You need the following patch (which I grabbed out of the mailing list archives--sorry for the lack of attribution to the originator). It causes yacc to be built as one of the bootstrap tools. RCS file: /usr/fbsdcvs/src/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.109.2.33 diff -c -r1.109.2.33 Makefile *** Makefile 1998/07/03 14:28:32 1.109.2.33 --- Makefile 1998/09/02 19:58:10 *************** *** 445,450 **** --- 445,453 ---- cd ${.CURDIR}/usr.bin/xinstall && ${MAKE} depend && \ ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} all && \ ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} -B install ${CLEANDIR} ${OBJDIR} + cd ${.CURDIR}/usr.bin/yacc; ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} ${_DEPEND}; \ + ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} all; \ + ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} -B install ${CLEANDIR} ${OBJDIR} cd ${.CURDIR}/usr.bin/lex && ${MAKE} bootstrap && ${MAKE} depend && \ ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} -DNOLIB all && \ ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} -DNOLIB -B install ${CLEANDIR} However, your build will still die trying to compile compile_et. There was a piece of mail from earlier today with a patch to fix this, though I haven't tried it yet. Yesterday I made the build work by diking out the compile_et from /usr/src/Makefile, then copying my existing compile_et binary into /usr/obj/tmp/bin while the make buildworld was running. andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 08:11:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28357 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lax-ca70-45.ix.netcom.com [207.93.162.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28349 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:11:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@netcom.com) Received: (from mvh@localhost) by netcom1.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12840; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:09:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael V. Harding" Message-Id: <199809031509.IAA12840@netcom1.netcom.com> To: ath@niksun.com CC: spencer@gateway.com.hk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <85soi92qj8.fsf@stiegl.niksun.com> (message from Andrew Heybey on 03 Sep 1998 10:56:43 -0400) Subject: Re: yacc error References: <85soi92qj8.fsf@stiegl.niksun.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Do a cvsup update- the fix has already been commited. I built world already this morning. From: Andrew Heybey Date: 03 Sep 1998 10:56:43 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG X-UIDL: 73345920349fe2abc521050bbcbc3823 > After cvsup -stable to 2.2.5-RELEASE source tree, make world stops > complaining the followings : > > But my yacc do not have the -o option, any help? > > Regards, > Spencer CHAN > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > I just tried to do exactly the same thing yesterday. You need the following patch (which I grabbed out of the mailing list archives--sorry for the lack of attribution to the originator). It causes yacc to be built as one of the bootstrap tools. RCS file: /usr/fbsdcvs/src/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.109.2.33 diff -c -r1.109.2.33 Makefile *** Makefile 1998/07/03 14:28:32 1.109.2.33 --- Makefile 1998/09/02 19:58:10 *************** *** 445,450 **** --- 445,453 ---- cd ${.CURDIR}/usr.bin/xinstall && ${MAKE} depend && \ ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} all && \ ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} -B install ${CLEANDIR} ${OBJDIR} + cd ${.CURDIR}/usr.bin/yacc; ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} ${_DEPEND}; \ + ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} all; \ + ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} -B install ${CLEANDIR} ${OBJDIR} cd ${.CURDIR}/usr.bin/lex && ${MAKE} bootstrap && ${MAKE} depend && \ ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} -DNOLIB all && \ ${MAKE} ${MK_FLAGS} -DNOLIB -B install ${CLEANDIR} However, your build will still die trying to compile compile_et. There was a piece of mail from earlier today with a patch to fix this, though I haven't tried it yet. Yesterday I made the build work by diking out the compile_et from /usr/src/Makefile, then copying my existing compile_et binary into /usr/obj/tmp/bin while the make buildworld was running. andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 08:30:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01050 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles310.castles.com [208.214.167.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01023 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03320; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:26:53 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809030826.IAA03320@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, chad@freebie.dcfinc.com, don@calis.BlackSun.org, scott@SchematiX.net Subject: Re: 8mm tape block size max - changed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Sep 1998 06:28:47 -0400." <199809031028.GAA21042@claret.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:26:52 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The machine is/was an NFS/Samba/DNS/DHCP/Mail server and had uptimes on > order of many months. So yes, if it's not broke, don't fix it. It was > only when I had trouble compiling some ports, that it was time to upgrade. > > Now I need to deal with the incompatibilities - like this tape driver issue. > > Three responses and *no* help - come on folks .. I couldn't work out why you were using 128 byte blocks. The blocksize you quoted in the error message looked pretty weird too; as though something somewhere was seriously confused. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 12:10:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01965 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:10:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rtso200.ruraltel.net (rtso200.ruraltel.net [24.225.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01945 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:10:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dlhoar@ruraltel.net) Received: from jupiter ([24.225.5.175]) by rtso200.ruraltel.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 613-55232U7000L600S0V35) with SMTP id AAA8871 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:09:19 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:08:52 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDD744.617BE760.dlhoar@ruraltel.net> From: dlhoar@ruraltel.net (Darryl Hoar) To: "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: FreeBSD + Microsoft Netmeeting Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:07:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, have FreeBSD 2.2.6 installed on a Pentium 166 with 64MB EDO ram. Have configured userland ppp with dial on demand. Users on our Lan are Accessing the internet by way of the FreeBSD box (its acting as a gateway). Have a user who needs to do the Microsoft Netmeeting thing for some collabrative work. Have it set up correctly, but my user does not hear the remote user. Microsoft web site talks about ports that need to be available, etc. Has anyone done this already? Any ideas? thanks in advance, Darryl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 13:27:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13780 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13773 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:27:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA12955; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id WAA08791; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980903222430.35414@follo.net> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:30 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Darryl Hoar , "'stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD + Microsoft Netmeeting References: <01BDD744.617BE760.dlhoar@ruraltel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <01BDD744.617BE760.dlhoar@ruraltel.net>; from Darryl Hoar on Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 02:07:42PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 02:07:42PM -0500, Darryl Hoar wrote: > Greetings, > have FreeBSD 2.2.6 installed on a Pentium 166 with 64MB EDO ram. > Have configured userland ppp with dial on demand. Users on our Lan > are Accessing the internet by way of the FreeBSD box (its acting as > a gateway). Have a user who needs to do the Microsoft Netmeeting > thing for some collabrative work. Have it set up correctly, but my > user does not hear the remote user. Microsoft web site talks about > ports that need to be available, etc. Has anyone done this already? Let me guess: You're running the PPP with -alias, right? Then you most likely need a proxy for NetMeeting to make this work - you'll have to find out which protocol and ports it use, and then write a proxy module for libalias. Look at 'alias_irc.c' for an example of how to do this, and mail me if you have any problems! Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 16:47:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19577 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:47:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ironbark.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au (ironbark.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au [149.144.21.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19568 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bscott@bunyatech.com.au) Received: from 139.134.208.122 (EXIP-T-006-p-208-122.tmns.net.au [139.134.208.122]) by ironbark.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA23244 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:46:03 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:46:03 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199809032346.JAA23244@ironbark.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au> From: Brian Scott To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Whats the magic to make pnp and the pcm driver work? X-Mailer: Top Gun Postman version 1.2 beta for USR PalmPilot X-URL: http://www.isaac.cs.berkeley.edu/pilot/TGpostman/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just bought a PC and naturally have installed FreeBSD on it. I've done this a dozen or so times in the past few years so consider myself quite adept at the task. This one has me beat. The motherboard is a TXPro (?) and seems to have some SiS chips on it doing all the hard work. This includes onboard video and onboard sound. I've virtually given up on the video since I can only find linux support for doing anything more than straight VGA16 in X. What does surprise me is how difficult it is to make the sound work. I've built a kernel with pnp and pcm support and have configured it so the pnp adjusts the card and the pcm driver finds it. Unfortunately it doesn't work. Instead writes to /dev/audio (audio0) time out. It seems to me that I'm missing something here. The pnp card has lots of things to adjust and many 'features' according to the pathetic doco. However there seems to be very little control over the pcm driver in the system config (1 port, 1 irq, etc). Has anyone had any success with these boards or similiar? Thanks Brian Scott -- Brian Scott bscott@bunyatech.com.au Bunya Technology bscott@ironbark.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au http://www.bunyatech.com.au/ brian@albury.net.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 17:05:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21957 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:05:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calis.BlackSun.org (slip-ppp-4-198.escape.com [205.160.46.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21921 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:05:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA11531 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:04:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:04:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Don To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RAID support? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What raid controllers are supported by freebsd-stable? Where should I be looking for a list of supported hardware (lint doesnt have enough of the info I need and the handbook doesnt list any controllers that I am aware of) -Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 17:19:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24728 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24720 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:19:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0zEjaD-00060e-00; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:18:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:18:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Don cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID support? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Don wrote: > What raid controllers are supported by freebsd-stable? Where should I be > looking for a list of supported hardware (lint doesnt have enough of the > info I need and the handbook doesnt list any controllers that I am aware > of) > -Don DPT is supported. The handbook seems to list all this stuff. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 17:30:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26045 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from conejito.travieso.org (bwc1.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.63.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26040 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carith@are.berkeley.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by conejito.travieso.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA22490; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:23:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carith@are.berkeley.edu) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:23:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Brent Carithers X-Sender: carith@localhost To: Brian Scott cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Whats the magic to make pnp and the pcm driver work? In-Reply-To: <199809032346.JAA23244@ironbark.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Brian Scott wrote: > The motherboard is a TXPro (?) and seems to have some SiS chips on it doing all the hard work. This includes onboard video and onboard sound. ...snip... > What does surprise me is how difficult it is to make the sound work. I've built a kernel with pnp and pcm support and have configured it so the pnp adjusts the card and the pcm driver finds it. Unfortunately it doesn't work. Instead writes to /dev/audio (audio0) time out. > > It seems to me that I'm missing something here. The pnp card has lots of things to adjust and many 'features' according to the pathetic doco. However there seems to be very little control over the pcm driver in the system config (1 port, 1 irq, etc). > > Has anyone had any success with these boards or similiar? > For whatever reason, PnP sound cards seem to get assigned to the second audio device even if there isn't a first. I got mine to work by just relinking /dev/audio and /dev/dsp and perhaps a few others to /dev/audio1, /dev/dsp1, etc. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Brent Carithers Univ. California at Berkeley carith@are.berkeley.edu Agricultural & Resource Economics Phone: (510) 643-5420 335 Giannini Hall #3310 Fax: (510) 643-8911 Berkeley, CA 94720-3310 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Words of wisdom from Zippy: --------------------------- I know things about TROY DONAHUE that can't even be PRINTED!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 17:32:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26330 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calis.BlackSun.org (slip-ppp-4-198.escape.com [205.160.46.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26307 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA11587; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:31:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:31:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Don To: Tom cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > DPT is supported. > The handbook seems to list all this stuff. Where exactly does the handbook list this? Not under "PC Hardware Compatibility" where I would expect to find it. -Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 17:57:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01046 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:57:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01041 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:57:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0zEkBC-0001w6-00; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:56:46 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:56:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Don cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@uniserve.com Subject: Re: RAID support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Don wrote: > > DPT is supported. > > The handbook seems to list all this stuff. > Where exactly does the handbook list this? Not under "PC Hardware > Compatibility" where I would expect to find it. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook9.html#9 ... but DPT is missing. > -Don Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 18:33:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06718 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:33:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calis.BlackSun.org (slip-ppp-4-198.escape.com [205.160.46.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06713 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA11682; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 21:32:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 21:32:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Don To: Tom cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@uniserve.com Subject: Re: RAID support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook9.html#9 > ... but DPT is missing. I found this disk controller listing. However none of those are RAID controllers to my knowledge. And shouldnt the DPT controllers be listed on a hardware compatibility list? The only way i knew they were supported was by searching the frebsd site and finding references to them in the release notes for 2.2.6 and 2.2.7 Is there a more complete listing of supported hardware? -Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 19:25:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10687 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:25:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA10681 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:25:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0zElXV-00026t-00; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:23:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:23:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Don cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Don wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook9.html#9 > > ... but DPT is missing. > I found this disk controller listing. However none of those are RAID > controllers to my knowledge. And shouldnt the DPT controllers be listed on Almost all of DPT controllors are either RAID or RAID upgradable. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 21:16:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21335 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 21:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21326 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 21:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt3-100.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.100]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id XAA14334; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:15:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17656; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 21:57:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199809040257.VAA17656@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: 8mm tape block size max - changed? In-reply-to: Message from Frank Terhaar-Yonkers of "Wed, 02 Sep 1998 21:19:42 EDT." <199809030119.VAA25476@claret.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 21:57:35 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Frank Terhaar-Yonkers writes: > > Folks - > > I recently upgraded from 2.0.x where I routinely used a block size of > 128b with tar and dump. Using 2.1.7 I get: st0: 64512-byte record too big > when I try to read the old tapes. > > Now I have all these old tapes I can't read. Am I missing something? So you used "tar -cvb 128 files" to write a tar tape? Would suggest you try using tcopy to determine what blocksize is being used but I just tried it myself and it didn't work right at all. Multiple tape blocks were read to serve one read(). If this is happening to you then that may be the key to the puzzle: The following tape was written "tar -cvb 20", tcopy clearly reports an incorrect block size and would mangle this tape if I were to actually copy it: n4hhe: {541} tcopy file 0: block size 65536: records 0 to 7 file 0: block size 43008: record 7 file 0: eof after 8 records: 501760 bytes eot total length: 501760 bytes n4hhe: {542} The above is *not* the way I'm used to seeing tcopy work. Am dissapointed. Recently ported FreeBSD's tcopy to SGI Irix 6.3 and had the same problem if a non-variable blocksize device was used (ie: /dev/rmt/tps1d6nrv worked, /dev/rmt/tps1d6nr would supply multiple blocks to fill the read() request). So maybe I'm just using the wrong FreeBSD tape device? dmesg says: (ahc0:6:0): "ARCHIVE ANCDA 2750 28077 -003" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc0:6:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x10, 512-byte blocks, write-enabled To my knowlege FreeBSD has never been able to write blocks larger than 64k to tape devices but would hide large writes with multiple smaller writes. So with any luck if you were writing 128 * 512 bytes then you should be OK. THe 64512 number you quote has everyone confused. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 23:07:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05561 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (prinz-atm.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De [141.44.30.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05448; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:06:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesse@prinz-atm.CS.Uni-Magdeburg.De) Received: from knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (knecht [141.44.21.3]) by csmd2.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07451; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:05:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by knecht.cs.uni-magdeburg.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA13717; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:05:38 +0200 Message-ID: <19980904080538.A13708@cs.uni-magdeburg.de> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:05:38 +0200 From: Roland Jesse To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Brian Scott Subject: Re: Whats the magic to make pnp and the pcm driver work? Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199809032346.JAA23244@ironbark.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2i In-Reply-To: <199809032346.JAA23244@ironbark.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au>; from Brian Scott on Fri, Sep 04, 1998 at 09:46:03AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian Scott wrote: > I've virtually given up on the video since I can only find linux support > for doing anything more than straight VGA16 in X. Did you try the X server from Suse (http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html)? One of them works like a charme on my FreeBSD system here. BTW: This thread is IMHO ontopic in freebsd-questions. I 'crossposted' and set the Reply-To: accordingly. Roland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 3 23:50:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11402 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rmall.vallnet.com (rmall.vallnet.com [206.25.206.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11383 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 23:49:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from heath@nodata.org) Received: from lily.nodata.org ([206.151.223.99] ident=root) by rmall.vallnet.com with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org id 0zEpfw-0003Vf-00; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:48:53 -0500 Received: from novacane.nodata.org ([206.151.223.98] helo=novacane) by lily.nodata.org with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org id 0zEpfv-0005TC-00; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:48:51 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Heath Seals" To: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:47:58 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bdd7cf$f3eab7d0$62df97ce@novacane.nodata.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe heath@nodata.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 02:39:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29903 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29896 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:39:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA06477; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:37:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 02:37:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: Stuart Henderson cc: Dexnation Holodream , Mike Smith , Don , Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route In-Reply-To: <35EE93BF.C00195B8@internationalschool.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Stuart Henderson wrote: > Vincent Poy wrote: > > > each T1 is on a separate interface. What I meant to say was is there a > > way around the route add default to be pointing to only one interface or > > IP like making all packets from 208.164.68.0/24 go out of eth0 and > > 209.84.252.0/24 go out of eth1. Each interface does have it's own IP. > > have you read http://www.netaxs.com/~freedman/multi.html? > (that and other links at http://www.mindspring.com/~jlindsay/bgp.html) Just read it... My concerns is not incoming packets not coming in correctly since each CIDR/24 block comes in on the correct circuit as the IPs belong to each provider. What I want to know is how to set routes so that depending on which CIDR/24 block a packet from my LAN is coming from, which circuit it will use to get the packet out since right now, all packets going out would be using only one circuit. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 07:04:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25592 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 07:04:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arjun.niksun.com (gw.niksun.com [206.20.52.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25587 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 07:04:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ath@niksun.com) Received: from stiegl.niksun.com (stiegl.niksun.com [10.0.0.44]) by arjun.niksun.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02344; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stiegl.niksun.com (localhost.niksun.com [127.0.0.1]) by stiegl.niksun.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA23702; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:03:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ath@stiegl.niksun.com) Message-Id: <199809041403.KAA23702@stiegl.niksun.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 From: Andrew Heybey To: "Michael V. Harding" cc: spencer@gateway.com.hk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: yacc error In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:09:58 -0700. <199809031509.IAA12840@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 10:03:07 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Do a cvsup update- the fix has already been commited. I built world > already this morning. > cvsup solved the include file shadowing problem with compile_et, but I still needed the "build yacc as a bootstrap tool" patch to make the -stable world from a 2.2.5 system (cvsup'd sources from about 10am EDT yesterday). Of course, I don't care any more since my installed yacc now understands -o... andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 07:40:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29176 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 07:40:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ranma.nectar.com (no-wkstns.gs.verio.net [204.27.67.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29166 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 07:40:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@ranma.nectar.com) Received: from ranma.nectar.com (localhost.communique.net [127.0.0.1]) by ranma.nectar.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00843; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:31:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199809041431.JAA00843@ranma.nectar.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 X-PGP-RSAfprint: 00 F9 E6 A2 C5 4D 0A 76 26 8B 8B 57 73 D0 DE EE X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.nectar.com/nectar-pgp262.txt From: Jacques Vidrine In-reply-to: References: Subject: Re: How to add route To: Vincent Poy cc: Dexnation Holodream , Mike Smith , Don , Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 09:31:18 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Classic IP routing uses the DESTINATION IP address to make forwarding decisions, not the source. You'd need a policy routing implementation to make forwarding decisions based on the source IP address. I don't know of one for FreeBSD, offhand. Maybe someone else can suggest. Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org On 3 September 1998 at 1:31, Vincent Poy wrote: [snip] > What I meant to say was is there a > way around the route add default to be pointing to only one interface or > IP like making all packets from 208.164.68.0/24 go out of eth0 and > 209.84.252.0/24 go out of eth1. [snip] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNe/5tjeRhT8JRySpAQGNSgQAj5n5rhtRAtKvYZJvbS0XfPO7Xsl7zKll fpz3XGFN1bPlqxSycMwmnXHJRtxNxJQAFTOJ+gek8fQEMs5fvNvtL/tWtQ3our3L 8GNMh51rtqZ1pikCSP0/sd4FiRK38Ua3ymUiSme62Hw7jjq4Wc5TdEVNasVtZbtE lhg5VOp/Mws= =xDpD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 09:02:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11151 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11130 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@washington.edu) Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu (root@saul4.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.2]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA14418 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:01:29 -0700 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA17683 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:57:17 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: No src-lkm collection... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If I could comment out the "src-lkm" collection in my supfile, I would. I read about the "-i" option in the man page. It seems that I might be able to explicitly include all but the lkm directory. How can I keep cvsup from looking at lkms? I don't use them. (I do use NOLKM in make.conf, FWIW) Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 09:11:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12665 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12650 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@washington.edu) Received: from saul5.u.washington.edu (root@saul5.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.3]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA47400 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:10:31 -0700 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA20044 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:06:18 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: What time shall I sup? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am going to start supping via a weekly cronjob. I would prefer to avoid cvsup dying because the server was too busy. What is the best time of the week to run cvsup? Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 10:24:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24128 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:24:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feoh.nmarcom.com (feoh.nmarcom.com [209.146.217.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24119 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thelab@nmarcom.com) Received: from localhost (thelab@localhost) by feoh.nmarcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA03753 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:23:29 -0400 (EDT) From: The Lab To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: too many open files Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I keep getting the "too many open files" message, but am unsure exactly how to reconfigure my kernel to compensate. Any suggestions? -Mit ================================================================ Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Systems Administrator/Programmer Project Co-Ordinator Neray MarCom, Inc. The Dreaming Network 25 Imperial Street, Suite 210 Box #9, 553 Church Street Toronto, Ontario, Canada Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5P 1B9 M4Y 2E3 v:(416)481-5405 e:thelab@nmarcom.com f:(416)481-3741 ICQ: 7161728 Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. -- Jules de Gaultier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 11:03:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00275 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:03:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [209.47.148.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00264 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id OAA03435; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:01:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:01:47 -0400 (EDT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: The Lab cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too many open files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, The Lab wrote: > > I keep getting the "too many open files" message, but am unsure exactly > how to reconfigure my kernel to compensate. Any suggestions? Actually, check the /etc/login.conf file and raise the limits for the 'login group' that you are a member of...I'm not 100% certain whether this is available on pre-3.0 systems though :( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 11:28:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05980 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:28:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from yip.org (yip.org [142.154.6.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05945 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:28:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by yip.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09523; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:27:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:26:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K To: The Hermit Hacker cc: The Lab , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too many open files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, The Lab wrote: > > > > > I keep getting the "too many open files" message, but am unsure exactly > > how to reconfigure my kernel to compensate. Any suggestions? > > Actually, check the /etc/login.conf file and raise the limits for > the 'login group' that you are a member of...I'm not 100% certain whether > this is available on pre-3.0 systems though :( Another possibility (which was one I ran into just two days ago) is to raise the value of maxusers; the default is 10. I raised mine to 20, but it's a really low-powered system (486dx4/100, 24 megs of RAM) that only gets light usage. Most people suggested values in the 40-50 range for a single workstation running X. melange@yip.org - "Slightly tacky but completely entertaining" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 11:42:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08735 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:42:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [209.47.148.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08716 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:42:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.8.8/8.7.5) with SMTP id OAA06457; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:41:30 -0400 (EDT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Bob K cc: The Lab , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too many open files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Bob K wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, The Lab wrote: > > > > > > > > I keep getting the "too many open files" message, but am unsure exactly > > > how to reconfigure my kernel to compensate. Any suggestions? > > > > Actually, check the /etc/login.conf file and raise the limits for > > the 'login group' that you are a member of...I'm not 100% certain whether > > this is available on pre-3.0 systems though :( > > Another possibility (which was one I ran into just two days ago) is to > raise the value of maxusers; the default is 10. I raised mine to 20, but > it's a really low-powered system (486dx4/100, 24 megs of RAM) that only > gets light usage. Most people suggested values in the 40-50 range for a > single workstation running X. One requires a rebuild/reboot of the system...one doesn't. IN a production environment, /etc/login.conf is about the only choice... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 11:45:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09174 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09162 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id LAA15768; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:44:22 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199809041844.LAA15768@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: 8mm tape block size max - changed? To: dkelly@hiwaay.net (David Kelly) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:44:21 -0700 (MST) Cc: fty@cisco.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199809040257.VAA17656@nospam.hiwaay.net> from David Kelly at "Sep 3, 98 09:57:35 pm" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Frank Terhaar-Yonkers writes: > > I recently upgraded from 2.0.x where I routinely used a block size of > > 128b with tar and dump. Using 2.1.7 I get: st0: 64512-byte record too big > > when I try to read the old tapes. > > > > Now I have all these old tapes I can't read. Am I missing something? > > So you used "tar -cvb 128 files" to write a tar tape? > > Would suggest you try using tcopy to determine what blocksize is being > used but I just tried it myself and it didn't work right at all. > Multiple tape blocks were read to serve one read(). If this is > happening to you then that may be the key to the puzzle: Or, dd if=/dev/tape of=/tmp/junk bs=64k count=1 ls -l /tmp/junk should tell you the size of the tape blocks. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 11:49:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10117 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:49:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from amber.ghostwheel.com (amber.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10110 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from merlin@ghostwheel.com) Received: from amber.ghostwheel.com (amber.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.89]) by amber.ghostwheel.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA09384 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:48:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Knight To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too many open files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, The Lab wrote: > > I keep getting the "too many open files" message, but am unsure exactly > how to reconfigure my kernel to compensate. Any suggestions? I have the following script located in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ #!/bin/sh /usr/sbin/sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=8192 /usr/sbin/sysctl -w kern.maxvnodes=16384 That takes care of my 'too many files open' problem. -ck ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win. -Lazarus Long ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 12:18:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15991 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:18:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from P1 (p1.isdn.net.il [192.115.104.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15929 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mazal@netvision.net.il) From: mazal@netvision.net.il Received: from default - 192.115.106.68 by isdn.net.il with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 22:03:38 +0300 Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 22:05:52 +0300 Subject: US$ 120.000.000 de Dolares To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Message-ID: <02bb83803190498P1@isdn.net.il> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Estimado navegante: US$ 120.000.000 lo esperan en: http://209.75.79.87/mazal y un tentador regalo para el espiritu en: http://209.75.79.87/tierra Nunca su bolsillo y su espiritu estuvieron tan cerca de enriquecerse. Gracias por su atencion.- R.M. Srul Mazal Israel Ltd mazal7@aquanet.co.il To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 12:30:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18628 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:30:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18608; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.1 [OUT])) id MAA10800; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id MAA08223; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:28:01 -0700 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id NAA14177; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:28:00 -0600 Message-ID: <35F19004.88A643C0@softweyr.com> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 13:24:52 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Poy CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to add route References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vincent Poy wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > Vincent Poy wrote: > > > > > each T1 is on a separate interface. What I meant to say was is there a > > > way around the route add default to be pointing to only one interface or > > > IP like making all packets from 208.164.68.0/24 go out of eth0 and > > > 209.84.252.0/24 go out of eth1. Each interface does have it's own IP. > > > > have you read http://www.netaxs.com/~freedman/multi.html? > > (that and other links at http://www.mindspring.com/~jlindsay/bgp.html) > > Just read it... My concerns is not incoming packets not coming in > correctly since each CIDR/24 block comes in on the correct circuit as the > IPs belong to each provider. What I want to know is how to set routes so > that depending on which CIDR/24 block a packet from my LAN is coming from, > which circuit it will use to get the packet out since right now, all > packets going out would be using only one circuit. One simple way to do this is to use two routers, one for each external interface. You can then select which circuit is used by pointing the default route on the client machines at the appropriate router. When using old PC hardware and FreeBSD, routers become pretty cheap. ;^) The other solution would be to NOT define a default route on the router, but rather to configure gated with both interfaces in Silent or Active mode, and let the learned routes take care of the problem for you. These would still be routed by destination, not by source, but the overall effect should be to balance the load according to the "costs" of the routes. This conversation is much more appropriate for the freebsd-net mailing list, so I've cc'ed it over there. Please rejoin the thread there, if necessary. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters +1.801.915.2061 Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 13:45:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00721 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:45:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00702 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:45:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0zF2hw-0000Z1-00; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:43:48 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:43:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: The Hermit Hacker cc: Bob K , The Lab , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too many open files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Bob K wrote: > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, The Lab wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I keep getting the "too many open files" message, but am unsure exactly > > > > how to reconfigure my kernel to compensate. Any suggestions? > > > > > > Actually, check the /etc/login.conf file and raise the limits for > > > the 'login group' that you are a member of...I'm not 100% certain whether > > > this is available on pre-3.0 systems though :( > > > > Another possibility (which was one I ran into just two days ago) is to > > raise the value of maxusers; the default is 10. I raised mine to 20, but > > it's a really low-powered system (486dx4/100, 24 megs of RAM) that only > > gets light usage. Most people suggested values in the 40-50 range for a > > single workstation running X. > > One requires a rebuild/reboot of the system...one doesn't. IN a > production environment, /etc/login.conf is about the only choice... Except you are talking about two different things. MAXUSERS controls the system wide file table. /etc/login.conf controls per-user file limits. You can increase the limits in /etc/login.conf all you want, but if the system wide table is full, you will still get "too many open files" errors. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 13:46:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00977 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:46:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00970 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0zF2iz-0000dR-00; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:44:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:44:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Christopher Knight cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too many open files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Christopher Knight wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, The Lab wrote: > > > > > I keep getting the "too many open files" message, but am unsure exactly > > how to reconfigure my kernel to compensate. Any suggestions? > > I have the following script located in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ > > #!/bin/sh > > /usr/sbin/sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=8192 > /usr/sbin/sysctl -w kern.maxvnodes=16384 > > > That takes care of my 'too many files open' problem. Just for "root". That increases the system file table. The per-user limits in /etc/login.conf still apply, unless you are root. > -ck > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't > bet, you can't win. > -Lazarus Long > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 13:56:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02916 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:56:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from amber.ghostwheel.com (amber.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02911 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from merlin@ghostwheel.com) Received: from nimboko.ghostwheel.com (dialup-250.devnull.net [207.201.56.250]) by amber.ghostwheel.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA09638; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980904135459.019ea7c0@pop.ghostwheel.com> X-Sender: merlin@pop.ghostwheel.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 13:54:59 -0700 To: Tom From: Christopher Knight Subject: Re: too many open files Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:44 PM 9/4/98 -0700, Tom wrote: > >On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Christopher Knight wrote: >> #!/bin/sh >> >> /usr/sbin/sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=8192 >> /usr/sbin/sysctl -w kern.maxvnodes=16384 >> >> >> That takes care of my 'too many files open' problem. > > Just for "root". That increases the system file table. The per-user >limits in /etc/login.conf still apply, unless you are root. And root processes. My system was bouncing mail and my webserver was crashing, while my messages log was filling with kernel errors about too many open files. This fixed my system-wide problem, which made me happy. Thank you for the clarification though. -ck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 14:16:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07384 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:16:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07368 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:16:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12224; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:15:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199809042115.OAA12224@austin.polstra.com> To: jason@washington.edu Subject: Re: What time shall I sup? In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 14:15:35 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Jason C. Wells wrote: > I am going to start supping via a weekly cronjob. I would prefer to avoid > cvsup dying because the server was too busy. It won't die. It will keep retrying until it succeeds, or until it hits the limit specified on the command line. > What is the best time of the week to run cvsup? You are not going to get a useful answer to this question. Suppose I said, "The best time to run CVSup is at 14:47 UTC on the 2nd Tuesday of each week." Then a few dozen people would all change their crontabs to run CVSup at that time, and it would suddenly become the worst time of the week to run CVSup. :-) Your best bet is to spread the load by using a mirror site other than cvsup.freebsd.org. In the US, both cvsup2 and cvsup3 are almost always less loaded than cvsup.freebsd.org. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 16:52:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18344 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:37:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18287 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:36:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkb@best.com) Received: from localhost (jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with SMTP id PAA01489; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:34:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell6.ba.best.com: jkb owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:34:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jan B. Koum " X-Sender: jkb@shell6.ba.best.com To: John Polstra cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvsup + make world shell script In-Reply-To: <199809021606.JAA22821@austin.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Anyone has a script which would CVSup and then make world which they run every few days or so? If not, I'll write one. I was thinking of having it even fetch(1) cvsup binary if there isn't one already and then do CVSup based on uname -r and do some sanity checks... -- Yan I don't have the password + Jan Koum But the path is chainlinked | Spelled Jan, pronounced Yan. There. So if you've got the time | Web: http://www.best.com/~jkb Set the tone to sync + OS: http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 18:48:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18977 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:48:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news.westbend.net (news.westbend.net [207.217.224.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18970 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 18:48:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by news.westbend.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA25530; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:47:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <004301bdd86f$0930bb40$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Jan B. Koum " Cc: Subject: Re: cvsup + make world shell script Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:46:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Jan B. Koum > > Hello, > > Anyone has a script which would CVSup and then make world which >they run every few days or so? If not, I'll write one. I was thinking of >having it even fetch(1) cvsup binary if there isn't one already and then >do CVSup based on uname -r and do some sanity checks... > Add to /etc/make.conf SUP_UPDATE= yes SUP= /usr/local/bin/cvsup SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 -z SUPFILE= /etc/cvsupfile Then Create the /etc/cvsupfile *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_2_2 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all *default host=internate.freebsd.org #Only needed if not cvsuping from the US/Canada src-crypto src-secure *default tag=. ports-all doc-all Place the following script in the source directory (/usr/src): #!/bin/sh # # clean_obj(): This Routine removes the schg flag and cleans the obj directory clean_obj() { chflags -R noschg /usr/obj rm -r /usr/obj/* } # # make_update(): This routine uses the update target to run cvsup. make_update() { make update } # # patch(): This routine applies any user patches to the source tree. patch() { if [ -d patches ]; then \ ( cd patches ; make ); fi } # # make_world(): make_world() { make world -DNOGAMES 2>&1 | tee /var/tmp/mw.out } # # make_buildworld(): make_buildworld() { make buildworld -DNOGAMES 2>&1 | tee /var/tmp/mw.out } # # make_installworld(): make_installworld() { make installworld -DNOGAMES 2>&1 | tee /var/tmp/mw.out } # # make_cf(): Create a new sendmail cf file. make_cf() { SENDMAIL_CF=usr.sbin/sendmail/cf/cf ( cd ${SENDMAIL_CF} ; m4 ../m4/cf.m4 ${1}.mc > /etc/${1}.cf ) } # #make_kernel(): Creates a new kernel, but doesn't install it. Also, if the directories # for the ETinc HDLC card are present, we append the appropriate device info to # the /sys/i386/conf/files.386 file. make_kernel() { ( cd /sys/i386/conf ; \ if [ -f /usr/hdlc/dev/files.i386 ] ; then \ cp -rp files.i386 files.i386.orig ; \ echo "" >> files.i386.orig ; \ cat files.i386.orig /usr/hdlc/dev/files.i386 > files.i386 ; \ fi ; \ config ${1} ; \ cd ../../compile/${1} ; \ make depend ; \ make ) } # #make_root(): Creates a dummy tree (/var/tmp/root), containing all of the files # that are different from the main tree (/) make_root() { # #make_etc(): Backs up the current /etc, runs mtree to create the root, var, and # usr trees in the dummy root, and then creates the distribution in the dummy root make_etc() { ETC="/usr/src/etc" MTREE="mtree -deU -f" if [ -d /etc.old ] ; then rm -r /etc.old fi cp -rp /etc /etc.old if [ ! -d ${1} ] ; then mkdir ${1} fi ${MTREE} ${ETC}/mtree/BSD.root.dist -p ${1} ${MTREE} ${ETC}/mtree/BSD.var.dist -p ${1}/var ${MTREE} ${ETC}/mtree/BSD.usr.dist -p ${1}/usr ( cd ${ETC} ; \ make DESTDIR=${1} distribution ) } # #check_files(): Compares files from the main tree to the dummy tree, and removes # any files that are the same from the dummy tree. check_files() { ORIG=/ ( cd ${1} ; \ for i in `find -d . -type f` ; \ do \ diff -s ${1}/${i} ${ORIG}${i} ; \ TEST=$? ; \ if [ ${TEST} = 0 ] ; then \ rm ${1}/${i} ; \ fi ; \ done ) } # #rm_empty_dir(): This routine removes empty directories from the dummy tree. rm_empty_dir() { ( cd ${1}; find -d . -type d | /usr/bin/perl -lne \ 'opendir(D,$_);@f=readdir(D);rmdir if $#f = 1;closedir(D);' ) } TARGET="/var/tmp/root" make_etc ${TARGET} check_files ${TARGET} rm_empty_dir ${TARGET} } # # main # clean_obj make_update patch make_world #make_buildworld #make_installworld make_cf loretta #Change this to the name of your *.mc file make_kernel LORETTA #Change this to the name of your kernel config file make_root Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 19:15:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21520 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:15:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail3.mailsorter.net (mail3.mailsorter.net [209.132.1.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21503; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:15:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daniel@cooltime.simplenet.com) Received: from pavilion ([208.255.216.36]) by mail3.mailsorter.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA24049; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:13:50 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980904192058.007b5950@mail.cooltime.simplenet.com> X-Sender: danielcooltime@mail.cooltime.simplenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 19:20:58 -0700 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Daniel Subject: Where can I find C Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am looking for the orignal 'C' program... If you can tell me where I can find it to buy it and the price I would be happy. Thanks Below is an automatic message ========================================================= =Greekchat Irc Network = =http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Foothills/5683/ = =and: http://cooltime.simplenet.com/greekchat.hts = =Will be moving to: = =http://www.greekchat.org = ========================================================= Cooltime http://cooltime.simplenet.com ***Linux Classified Ads: http://cooltime.simplenet.com/linux.hts To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 19:43:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25418 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (mailhost.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25413; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:43:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@iprg.nokia.com) Received: from melkor.iprg.nokia.com (melkor.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.1.82]) by mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA19022; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35F0A506.4A7B7C1D@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 19:42:14 -0700 From: Scott Sewall Organization: Nokia Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel CC: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where can I find C References: <3.0.5.32.19980904192058.007b5950@mail.cooltime.simplenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here it is: main () { printf("Hello World!\n"); } -- Scott Daniel wrote: > > I am looking for the orignal 'C' program... > > If you can tell me where I can find it to buy it and the price I would be > happy. > > Thanks > Below is an automatic message > > ========================================================= > =Greekchat Irc Network = > =http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Foothills/5683/ = > =and: http://cooltime.simplenet.com/greekchat.hts = > =Will be moving to: = > =http://www.greekchat.org = > ========================================================= > > Cooltime > http://cooltime.simplenet.com > > ***Linux Classified Ads: > http://cooltime.simplenet.com/linux.hts > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 20:00:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28047 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28041 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:00:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17255; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 23:59:14 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199809050259.XAA17255@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: No src-lkm collection... In-Reply-To: from "Jason C. Wells" at "Sep 4, 98 08:57:17 am" To: jason@washington.edu (Jason C. Wells) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 23:59:14 -0300 (EST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG #define quoting(Jason C. Wells) // If I could comment out the "src-lkm" collection in my supfile, I would. I // read about the "-i" option in the man page. It seems that I might be able // to explicitly include all but the lkm directory. // // How can I keep cvsup from looking at lkms? I don't use them. Please send your whole supfile and the flags you use when calling cvsup. // // (I do use NOLKM in make.conf, FWIW) I'd love to do this also, but I need a screen saver. Is it already possible to select a permanent screen saver ? Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro "There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and Unix. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -- Jeremy S. Anderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 20:53:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05788 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:53:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05783 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:53:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14270; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199809050352.UAA14270@austin.polstra.com> To: jason@washington.edu Subject: Re: No src-lkm collection... In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:52:15 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Jason C. Wells wrote: > How can I keep cvsup from looking at lkms? I don't use them. man 1 cvsup Read the part about "refuse" files. -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 20:54:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05925 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:54:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05918 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:54:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt1-18.HiWAAY.net [208.147.147.18]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id WAA20208 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 22:52:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20987 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 22:17:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199809050317.WAA20987@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: 8mm tape block size max - changed? In-reply-to: Message from "Chad R. Larson" of "Fri, 04 Sep 1998 11:44:21 PDT." <199809041844.LAA15768@freebie.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 22:17:51 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chad R. Larson" writes: > Or, > > dd if=/dev/tape of=/tmp/junk bs=64k count=1 > ls -l /tmp/junk > > should tell you the size of the tape blocks. Agreed. It *should*. But for some reason it doesn't anymore. n4hhe: {553} tar -cvb 20 gifs gifs/ gifs/cycle_large.gif gifs/title_bottom.gif [...] n4hhe: {554} dd if=/dev/rst0 bs=64k of=/dev/null count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 65536 bytes transferred in 2.138313 secs (30648 bytes/sec) n4hhe: {555} tcopy file 0: block size 65536: records 0 to 7 file 0: block size 43008: record 7 file 0: eof after 8 records: 501760 bytes eot total length: 501760 bytes n4hhe: {556} You'll notice 501760 is 49 * 10240 and the last block came up short of 64k. I believe tar correctly wrote the tape with 10k blocksize but the kernel is (incorrectly) combining multiple blocks to fill a single read. I don't believe this has always been the case. n4hhe: {559} uname -a FreeBSD n4hhe.ampr.org 2.2.7-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Sun Jul 26 21:19:55 CDT 1998 root@n4hhe.ampr.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/PPRO200 i386 n4hhe: {560} mt stat Present Mode: Density = QIC-150 Blocksize = 512 bytes ---------available modes--------- Mode 0: Density = 0x00 Blocksize variable Mode 1: Density = X3.136-1986 Blocksize = 512 bytes Mode 2: Density = X3.39-1986 Blocksize variable Mode 3: Density = X3.54-1986 Blocksize variable n4hhe: {561} -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 4 20:56:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06245 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:56:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06233 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:56:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14294; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199809050353.UAA14294@austin.polstra.com> To: jkb@best.com Subject: Re: cvsup + make world shell script In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:53:58 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Jan B. Koum wrote: > Anyone has a script which would CVSup and then make world which > they run every few days or so? If not, I'll write one. I was thinking of > having it even fetch(1) cvsup binary if there isn't one already and then > do CVSup based on uname -r and do some sanity checks... You might want to take a look at Jordan's "cvsupit" distribution. It's in . -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 00:43:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA27049 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:43:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from seraph.uunet.ca (uunet.ca [142.77.1.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA27027 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:43:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erics@now.com) Received: from now by seraph.uunet.ca with UUCP id <185042-28960>; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 03:42:13 -0400 Received: from baal.now.com (really [205.150.6.3]) by vishnu.now.com via rsmtp (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1997-Apr-17) with bsmtp id for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 03:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by baal.now.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #12) id m0zFCpq-00001KC; Sat, 5 Sep 98 03:32 EDT Message-Id: From: erics@now.com (Eric Siegerman) Subject: Re: 8mm tape block size max - changed? To: fty@cisco.com Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 03:32:38 -0400 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199809040257.VAA17656@nospam.hiwaay.net> from "David Kelly" at Sep 3, 98 10:57:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Kelly wrote: > > Frank Terhaar-Yonkers writes: > > > > I recently upgraded from 2.0.x where I routinely used a block size of > > 128b with tar and dump. I presume you mean by this: tar -b128 ... # ie. 128*512 = 64 KB dump 0b 128 ... # ie. 128 KB > > Using 2.1.7 I get: st0: 64512-byte record too big > > when I try to read the old tapes. > > THe 64512 number you quote has everyone confused. This sounds *really* familiar -- that number specifically. Alas, it was two or three years ago; I can't remember the specifics. But a possible clue is that 64512 is exactly 63 KB, ie. ((unsigned short) -1024). Sign-extension or integer-overflow problem, perhaps? Chad R. Larson wrote: > > dd if=/dev/tape of=/tmp/junk bs=64k count=1 > ls -l /tmp/junk > > should tell you the size of the tape blocks. I for one am most curious to know what this produces. Might the old kernel have been rebuilt with a larger maximum block size than the default 64 KB? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics@now.com | | / The Rock & Roll Baby Theorem: Syllables(x+"baby") = Syllables("baby"+x) = Syllables(x) + 2 SemanticContent(x+"baby") = SemanticContent("baby"+x) = SemanticContent(x) - Anonymous To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 07:04:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25458 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:04:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (pppk-13.igrin.co.nz [202.49.245.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25453 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:04:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA05979; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 01:59:33 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 01:59:33 +1200 (NZST) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: Tom cc: The Hermit Hacker , Bob K , The Lab , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too many open files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Tom wrote: > > One requires a rebuild/reboot of the system...one doesn't. IN a > > production environment, /etc/login.conf is about the only choice... > > Except you are talking about two different things. MAXUSERS controls > the system wide file table. /etc/login.conf controls per-user file > limits. You can increase the limits in /etc/login.conf all you want, but > if the system wide table is full, you will still get "too many open files" > errors. > > Tom between sysctl and login.conf, either can be set without a rebuild. references to MAXUSERS seem to suggest that it affects a whole range of values. Some of it can be overridden via sysctl. Can anyone clarify what if anything can't? sysctl and ulimit have sorted out my recent problems, with numbers of processes and files, but perhaps there's other reasons why I should increase MAXUSERS? I'm currently running a busy webserver with MAXUSERS=64. Apache docs suggest MAXUSERS=256. Andrew McNaughton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 09:40:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11181 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:40:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.hkstar.com (cassiopeia.hkstar.com [202.82.3.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11174 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:40:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kwanalex@hkstar.com) Received: from hkstar.com (ip-192-130.dialup.hkstar.com [202.82.192.130]) by smtp.hkstar.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA02688 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 00:39:22 +0800 (HKT) X-Authentication-Warning: cassiopeia.hkstar.com: Host ip-192-130.dialup.hkstar.com [202.82.192.130] claimed to be hkstar.com Message-ID: <35F16981.4FD93C10@hkstar.com> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 00:40:34 +0800 From: kwanalex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How to Close PPP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I use auto mode PPP to dialup to my ISP, when the PPP is running, How do I terminated it? Thank You! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 10:07:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15965 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles305.castles.com [208.214.167.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15960 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:07:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05862; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809051711.KAA05862@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: andrew@squiz.co.nz cc: Tom , The Hermit Hacker , Bob K , The Lab , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too many open files In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Sep 1998 01:59:33 +1200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 10:11:15 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Tom wrote: > > > > One requires a rebuild/reboot of the system...one doesn't. IN a > > > production environment, /etc/login.conf is about the only choice... > > > > Except you are talking about two different things. MAXUSERS controls > > the system wide file table. /etc/login.conf controls per-user file > > limits. You can increase the limits in /etc/login.conf all you want, but > > if the system wide table is full, you will still get "too many open files" > > errors. > > > > Tom > > between sysctl and login.conf, either can be set without a rebuild. No. The kern.maxfiles sysctl shouldn't be writable in 2.2, and it's not writable in 3.0; it refers to the size of a static table. > references to MAXUSERS seem to suggest that it affects a whole range of > values. Some of it can be overridden via sysctl. Can anyone clarify what > if anything can't? sysctl and ulimit have sorted out my recent problems, > with numbers of processes and files, but perhaps there's other reasons > why I should increase MAXUSERS? None of the critical items can be adjusted at runtime; the two critical items are the maximum number of open files in the system, and the maximum number of mbuf clusters. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 10:20:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17819 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:20:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA17792 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:20:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0zFLzJ-0007Lj-00; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:19:01 -0700 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:18:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Andrew McNaughton cc: The Hermit Hacker , Bob K , The Lab , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: too many open files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, Andrew McNaughton wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Tom wrote: > > > > One requires a rebuild/reboot of the system...one doesn't. IN a > > > production environment, /etc/login.conf is about the only choice... > > > > Except you are talking about two different things. MAXUSERS controls > > the system wide file table. /etc/login.conf controls per-user file > > limits. You can increase the limits in /etc/login.conf all you want, but > > if the system wide table is full, you will still get "too many open files" > > errors. > > > > Tom > > between sysctl and login.conf, either can be set without a rebuild. > references to MAXUSERS seem to suggest that it affects a whole range of > values. Some of it can be overridden via sysctl. Can anyone clarify what Yes. > if anything can't? sysctl and ulimit have sorted out my recent problems, Number of mbufs (netstat -m), but the mbufs can be increased outside MAXUSERS too. > with numbers of processes and files, but perhaps there's other reasons > why I should increase MAXUSERS? > > I'm currently running a busy webserver with MAXUSERS=64. Apache docs > suggest MAXUSERS=256. > > Andrew McNaughton Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 10:21:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18158 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:21:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from SchematiX.net (schematix.net [24.234.31.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18145 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:21:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Received: from localhost (scott@localhost) by SchematiX.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA06796; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:17:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:17:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott To: kwanalex cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to Close PPP In-Reply-To: <35F16981.4FD93C10@hkstar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG kill it On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, kwanalex wrote: > Hi! > > I use auto mode PPP to dialup to my ISP, > when the PPP is running, How do I > terminated it? > > Thank You! > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 11:05:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25277 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:05:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cassiopeia.caprica.com ([207.137.48.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA25272 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:05:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from exit.com by cassiopeia.caprica.com (8.6.10/95022701) id HAA06232; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 07:30:26 -0800 Received: (from frank@localhost) by exit.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id KAA06380; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:37:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <199809051737.KAA06380@exit.com> Subject: Re: How to Close PPP To: scott@SchematiX.net (Scott) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: kwanalex@hkstar.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Scott at "Sep 5, 98 10:17:35 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 6 Sep 1998, kwanalex wrote: > I use auto mode PPP to dialup to my ISP, > when the PPP is running, How do I > terminated it? These kinds of questions should go to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, not to freebsd-stable or any other list. To answer your question, there are two ways; one is just to kill it with "kill," and the other way is to do a "quit all" from pppctl. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 12:17:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02398 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:17:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from eden-backend.rutgers.edu (eden-backend.rutgers.edu [165.230.180.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02389 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:17:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from damascus@eden.rutgers.edu) Received: from damascus (damascus.dorm.rutgers.edu [165.230.124.139]) by eden-backend.rutgers.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA10663 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809051916.PAA10663@eden-backend.rutgers.edu> X-Sender: damascus@email.eden.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 15:16:14 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Carroll Kong Subject: IBM 10/100 Supported? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG IBM part # is FRU 25H3511 IBM 100/10 ISA ethernet card DP83800AVF ES9636ALC4 My friend has this card... and it is on a slow machine, so a recompile will be long. Anyone know if this card is supported by FreeBSD? And.. should I just use conventional ne2000 as the device to compile for? Thanks in advance guys. -Carroll Kong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 13:16:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06909 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:16:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from limes.NIC.DTAG.DE (limes.NIC.DTAG.DE [194.25.1.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06886 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:16:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bm@Reineke.malepartus.de) Received: from kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE (kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE [194.25.1.92]) by limes.NIC.DTAG.DE (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA06262 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:14:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE (kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE [194.25.1.92]) by limes.NIC.DTAG.DE (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA06262 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:14:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from Reineke.malepartus.de (reineke.malepartus.de [194.25.4.66]) by kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA24906 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:15:27 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from Reineke.malepartus.de (localhost.Malepartus.de [127.0.0.1]) by Reineke.malepartus.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14419 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:15:18 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from bm@Reineke.malepartus.de) Message-Id: <199809052015.WAA14419@Reineke.malepartus.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 From: Burkard Meyendriesch Subject: kernel PPS line discipline for NTP To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: bm@malepartus.de X-organization: The home of Reineke Fuchs X-GPOS: 52.0844N 7.9081E X-phone: +49 5484 96097 X-pgp-fingerprint: DF 83 04 CD B5 D1 10 43 57 4C AD 9A B1 02 28 17 X-face: "[-;]oI+8gP9>*J%knDN8d%DuhvJS2Lj4L\bRb7gz(pcT?2Zh6_Vam_6csAum3$<&lhAFd^ jt|!&Ut1C~Vg*E/q}+#cbFg-GU]c.bB8Ad,L'W$'9{^0y'AzM4#hS[C[F-1'|O;Kg3Vrq5q6dsU*TmJ@}+QPM\ b[^9Rhd,UoMpRpd5k[X=h.Dom*kbT`cNQ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 22:15:18 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id NAA06902 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I'm trying to install a NTP pulse per second suport on my FreeBSD-2.2.7 kernel. My first guess was to follow the instructions given in "../ntp-4.0.73e2/kernel/README" but they only seem to work with early versions of SunOS. Can anybody of you give me a hint for installing a timestamp line discipline on FreeBSD? Thanks in advance Burkard -- * Burkard Meyendriesch ___ bm@malepartus.de * * Hauptstrasse 45 ________|________ tel +49 5484 96097 * * D-49219 Glandorf-Schwege 0 52 05'05"N 07 54'29"E * * PGP-Fingerprint DF 83 04 CD B5 D1 10 43 57 4C AD 9A B1 02 28 17 * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 15:42:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19666 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:42:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dreaming.org (trt-on4-36.netcom.ca [207.181.81.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19661 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shyone@home.dreaming.org) Received: from localhost (shyone@localhost) by home.dreaming.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA03404 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 18:48:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shyone@home.dreaming.org) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 18:47:40 -0400 (EDT) From: The Reality Engineer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sound. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have managed to successfully get my SB16 AWE64 kinda working using luigi's sound code + pnp, at least it is detected. :) However, i'm getting the following messages: pcm0: unit not configured, perhaps you want pcm1 ? /dev/dsp: device not configured. What am i missing? my dmesg is below. -Mit Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Sat Sep 5 16:58:36 EDT 1998 root@home.dreaming.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/home CPU: Pentium/P54C (150.00-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 30564352 (29848K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 16 on pci0:0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7:0 pci0:7:1: VIA Technologies, device=0x0571, class=storage (ide) [no driver assigned] vga0 rev 0 on pci0:11:0 Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00e4 [0xe4008c0e] Serial 0x14a7e79e PnP: override config for CSN 1 LDN 0 vend_id 0xe4008c0e pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x14a7e79e) at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 id 16 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x300-0x31f irq 9 on isa ed0: address 00:4f:4c:02:12:eb, type NE2000 (16 bit) sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio3 at 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 10 on isa sio3: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface pca0 on motherboard pca0: PC speaker audio driver pcm0 not found at 0xffffffff fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 3098MB (6346368 sectors), 6296 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordis wcd0: 4133Kb/sec, 128Kb cache, audio play, 256 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: door open, unlocked wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy wcd1: 1031Kb/sec, 128Kb cache, audio play, 256 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd1: medium type unknown, unlocked npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.1 joy0 at 0x201 on isa joy0: joystick Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 15:47:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20315 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:47:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from home.dreaming.org (trt-on16-04.netcom.ca [207.181.85.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20310 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:47:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shyone@home.dreaming.org) Received: from localhost (shyone@localhost) by home.dreaming.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA03480 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 18:53:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shyone@home.dreaming.org) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 18:52:39 -0400 (EDT) From: The Reality Engineer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, The Reality Engineer wrote: > > I have managed to successfully get my SB16 AWE64 kinda working using > luigi's sound code + pnp, at least it is detected. :) > > However, i'm getting the following messages: > > pcm0: unit not configured, perhaps you want pcm1 ? > /dev/dsp: device not configured. > > What am i missing? > > > my dmesg is below. > > -Mit > Is this the answer? rm /dev/dsp /dev/dspW ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp ln -s /dev/dspW1 /dev/dspW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 16:00:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21990 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 16:00:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calis.BlackSun.org (slip-ppp-4-198.escape.com [205.160.46.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21979 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 16:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA17537; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 18:59:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 18:59:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Don To: Carroll Kong cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IBM 10/100 Supported? In-Reply-To: <199809051916.PAA10663@eden-backend.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > IBM part # is FRU 25H3511 > IBM 100/10 ISA ethernet card > DP83800AVF > ES9636ALC4 > > My friend has this card... and it is on a slow machine, so a recompile will > be long. Anyone know if this card is supported by FreeBSD? And.. should I > just use conventional ne2000 as the device to compile for? Please check the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook10.html#220 Also check the LINT file: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT If your card is not listed in either section it either isnt supported or it is listed under a name you arent recognizing. If that is the case then you should say that in an email to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org as it isnt a topic directly related to FreeBSD-STABLE. -don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 17:03:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26525 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:03:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vortex.starix.net (vortex.starix.net [208.219.83.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26520; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:03:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syko@sykotik.org) Received: from localhost (syko@localhost) by vortex.starix.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA30311; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 20:02:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: vortex.starix.net: syko owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 20:02:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Dusk Auriel Sykotik X-Sender: syko@vortex.starix.net To: Scott Sewall cc: Daniel , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where can I find C In-Reply-To: <35F0A506.4A7B7C1D@iprg.nokia.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You can't use printf(), you didn't include stdio.h :) /* ** Matt Harris Syko ** BPSOFH, BIOFH, C, SQL, PERL http://www.sykotik.org/~syko/ ** FreeBSD SysAdmin sykotik.org ** IRC TechnoNet - dark.technonet.net Cabalnet - dark-temple.cabalnet.org ** "Those who are right in the mind are left in the dust." -- Me. */ On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Scott Sewall wrote: > Here it is: > > main () { > printf("Hello World!\n"); > } > > -- Scott > > > Daniel wrote: > > > > I am looking for the orignal 'C' program... > > > > If you can tell me where I can find it to buy it and the price I would be > > happy. > > > > Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 17:33:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29347 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:33:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from artemis.syncom.net (artemis.syncom.net [206.64.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29342; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:33:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cyouse@artemis.syncom.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by artemis.syncom.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA25338; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 20:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 20:43:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Youse To: Dusk Auriel Sykotik cc: Scott Sewall , Daniel , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where can I find C In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nah, it'll draw a warning, perhaps .... but this is perfectly legal C. On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Dusk Auriel Sykotik wrote: > You can't use printf(), you didn't include stdio.h :) > On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Scott Sewall wrote: > > main () { > > printf("Hello World!\n"); > > } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 17:52:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01580 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:52:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01573; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:52:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA17238; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:05:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199809060105.LAA17238@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Where can I find C In-Reply-To: from Dusk Auriel Sykotik at "Sep 5, 98 08:02:24 pm" To: syko@sykotik.org (Dusk Auriel Sykotik) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:05:10 +1000 (EST) Cc: scott@iprg.nokia.com, daniel@cooltime.simplenet.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dusk Auriel Sykotik wrote: > You can't use printf(), you didn't include stdio.h :) That's why the code is free. You get what you pay for. 8-) -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 22:10:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18471 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:10:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles176.castles.com [208.214.165.176]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18466 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:10:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07610; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:15:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809060515.WAA07610@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Carroll Kong cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IBM 10/100 Supported? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Sep 1998 15:16:14 CDT." <199809051916.PAA10663@eden-backend.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 22:15:43 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > IBM part # is FRU 25H3511 > IBM 100/10 ISA ethernet card > DP83800AVF This is the National Semiconductor 10/100 ISA ethernet interface. We don't support this device. It's debatable as to whether it's *worth* trying to support 100Mbps on ISA; the bus has about 1/10th the required bandwidth. This chip is also an poor choice; it only has a 5k onboard received FIFO, which in many cases would be too small (resulting in lost packets and correspondingly poor performance). > ES9636ALC4 > > My friend has this card... and it is on a slow machine, so a recompile will > be long. Anyone know if this card is supported by FreeBSD? And.. should I > just use conventional ne2000 as the device to compile for? No, you will need to obtain a different card. We don't support any 100Mbps ISA adapters, so if you want to do 100Mbps you will need to go to PCI. Alternatively, get a cheap NE2000 clone. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 5 22:12:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18568 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:12:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA18563 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 22:12:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id FAA14949; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 05:16:10 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809060316.FAA14949@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Sound. To: shyone@home.dreaming.org (The Reality Engineer) Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 05:16:10 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "The Reality Engineer" at Sep 5, 98 06:52:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, The Reality Engineer wrote: > > > I have managed to successfully get my SB16 AWE64 kinda working using > > luigi's sound code + pnp, at least it is detected. :) > > > > However, i'm getting the following messages: > > > > pcm0: unit not configured, perhaps you want pcm1 ? > > /dev/dsp: device not configured. > > > > What am i missing? > > > > > > my dmesg is below. > > > > -Mit > > > > Is this the answer? > > rm /dev/dsp /dev/dspW > ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp > ln -s /dev/dspW1 /dev/dspW and also rm /dev/mixer /dev/audio ln -s /dev/audio1 /dev/audio ln -s /dev/mixer1 /dev/mixer cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message