From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 21 05:57:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE133910 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 05:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ctorchia87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f53.google.com (mail-oa0-f53.google.com [209.85.219.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750D1794 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 05:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id m6so5002622oag.26 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 22:57:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZR+Tkld9IuA3irT6Ch2CGZ5RSE9CzSlbmcazue5yafg=; b=rdVTGB5ejfFUne4lAcCjPtWewyR0JayQYA38Tg0UPI62LV3FPE+L849yP8oQJJdX/c tbgD2C4jIuqzqHG5ntPnjsCHgSozEbWSVPxdOOwGPFtHtci44Rq4B9W/t/YuIbDSItgd LbU0k1tScMbi5LBR0RpmlxvInhmWDEqNh67DjH71bPbX+RN7uSJW4pRRLP8S23MvRkvT I6mAJCiz7NxUYCumlysh3TH1BeB1A3TeF1YIDpwk9mTx9ascCXeInD/WN6U2L2ZwvfyQ YTKNDAKnJfxSuw18LboYzuiXYyhN00ccjuNgt6w7hxeZ92amoGeY94oBfQZj8t856gKg dBUw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.79.165 with SMTP id k5mr11299109obx.24.1366523860119; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 22:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.63.74 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 22:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 22:57:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Compilation From: "Carlos E. Torchia" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 05:57:46 -0000 Hey Michal, if you still subscribe, I know this was a very long time ago, but this has been bugging me so I want to thank you for your advice. This was 9 years ago. Ultimately I just had a lot to learn. Besides not staying up all night to solve dependency issues and writing to mailing lists in an upset tone. I'm sorry about that. I was 17 at the time. I think I read your response, but then I gave up on my project to make my own open source RPG at the time. In some way I just wanted to get the job done. I looked at the PyGTK link you posted. It looks like a pretty direct way to get started doing drawings. A lot of other things would be involved with an RPG, including sound, animations, and AI. It's also good advice to not get frustrated, too. Thanks, Carlos On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 01:16:20 PDT, Michal Pasternak < michal@pasternak.w.lub.pl> wrote: > Carlos Torchia [Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 06:02:43AM +0100]: > >* Hi. I can't compile a program using the G2 graphics*>* library. When= I tried compiling the program the first*>* time, cc said it didn't know th= at g2.h was in*>* /usr/local/include, which I think is pretty stupid.*>* An= yway, I put /usr/local/include and /usr/local/lib in*>* the -I and -L param= eters respectively.* > Yes, that's correct. You need to pass -I and -L each time you compile a > program, that has its libs / includes not in /usr/{lib,include} . > > There are 3 options: use Linux (which has almost everything in /usr/inclu= de > and /usr/lib, but you still have to pass -I and -L sometimes, for postgre= sql > for example); symlink all files in /usr/X11R6/{lib,include} and > /usr/local/{lib,include} in your /usr/{lib,include} - which will clobber = up > your filesystem a bit; learn to write / use Makefiles or pkg-config stuff= . > > For example, you could write Makefile like: > > myprogram: myprogram.c > $(CC) -o myprogram `gtk-config --libs --cflags` myprogram.c > > >* Then it saw*>* the header and library files, but there were constant*>= * errors saying that there were undefined references to*>* X11 functions wi= thin libg2.a.* > Aye! That's why you specify -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 and some more stuff on > gcc command line. > > Too hard, too complicated, takes too much time? Well. Either write a good > makefile, or try to learn some IDE for GCC (anjuta, kdevelop), which can > propably take care of this automatically. I think, that learning > automake/autoconf (the scripts, that generate "configure" script, that > autodetects library locations) can be hard/unneeded for you at the moment= . > > >* and how to redirect error output from*>* programs to files (or pipe th= em), because everything I*>* need to now about Unix or FreeBSD comes from 7= 2 hours of*>* trying to figure out how to make a directory or something.* > Google is your friend:http://www.bo.infn.it/alice/alice-doc/mll-doc/usrgd= e/node18.html > > >* I'm sorry, but I just can't do anything in this operating*>* system. = I mean, finally I've found a library that makes*>* it simple to simply plot= a pixel in a window without*>* spending hours looking for a GTK tutorial t= hat will tell*>* me about this stupid graphics context stuff that I don't*>= * even know. And now I gotta figure out about this stupid*>* g2 thing. Ok= . Well anyway, thanks for any help you can*>* give me.* > If you just want to "get the job done", I'd suggest Python. You don't car= e > about compilation, libraries, other stuff - and it is extremely simple to > draw stuff using PyGTK -http://www.moeraki.com/pygtktutorial/pygtk2tutori= al/ch-DrawingArea.html > > If "graphics context" stuff bothers you, well, that's somehow "standard" = way > to draw stuff, well, X has it and win32 also has it :) If you want to use > something like a framebuffer, I am sure you can find something, no matter= if > in GTK or X11 (I'd suggest XSHM extension for framebuffer-like stuff, but > well, I've written my last pure-X11 application about 5 years ago, and I'= m > sure, that things have changed). > > Hope this helps. Don't get frustrated - spend another 72 hours actually > reading the docs, unix is simple, but sometimes not as simple, as you may > suppose :) > -- > m > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 21 07:39:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2921A4F4 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@hewbert.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f49.google.com (mail-oa0-f49.google.com [209.85.219.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0556973 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id j1so2547824oag.8 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 00:39:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=cezlFKVqm/Ufg0d6dafcHZ/yErXCVUXAuSPADDA5yAI=; b=LtLdVkqW1WLTpWPOU0cWnPxw/Isr69+A4XYanuTYTq0cFgnAAaz4z/cpfYj7jn1N5P YPHJ5o1kha/iPEkJ2jwCt+hhFX+RGUfAc5QC54RpsCizFpWNb9Px47vDeb6R3OoYbgDc BRMkonGnxXopErnvgHGE8mBcxj82XEp135UFoYadtC2hZoWjnHIajN7ofnOWrg8RmJxZ SgsbUj4Hv9bFNUqfYCxryWUnHXnyL01lyINSMD/honqE63lAUKJxn0RaYdwfhxE1kZ+b YRUO5pmhFZMesubYN1thm2mZ/t8aoeji52abmh29LEPEv4Pv9KVEFE2xz8Onb8MgWSKM huYQ== X-Received: by 10.60.34.98 with SMTP id y2mr12484284oei.74.1366529968374; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 00:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x232.google.com (mail-ob0-x232.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s4sm13422184obx.7.2013.04.21.00.39.27 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 21 Apr 2013 00:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 16so651002obc.37 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 00:39:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.15.98 with SMTP id w2mr7886622oec.128.1366529966729; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 00:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.140.130 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 00:39:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1366375031.22246.YahooMailNeo@web165004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1365927098231-5803691.post@n5.nabble.com> <20130414103154.3a49e6de.freebsd@edvax.de> <1365996890840-5803879.post@n5.nabble.com> <1366004997052-5803900.post@n5.nabble.com> <516F9DD2.6030200@coosemans.org> <1366270329916-5804740.post@n5.nabble.com> <20130418095129.7c6dc564.freebsd@edvax.de> <1366281671523-5804757.post@n5.nabble.com> <20130418133528.GA13082@eris.bzerk.org> <1366293077054-5804802.post@n5.nabble.com> <1366375031.22246.YahooMailNeo@web165004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 01:39:26 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Virtual Box on FreeBSD Server From: Josh Beard To: Bill Tillman X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnHrPPorZM8OhlfJqqPgT7mGX6HTilZ82+ruRHhv33GAqI+RvdwayTEq9BKUZmJXiKSQW9v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:39:35 -0000 As others have said, you can run VirtualBox without X. The command line tools provided by VirtualBox are pretty comprehensive and straight-forward. To add to that, there's also phpVirtualBox: https://code.google.com/p/phpvirtualbox/ that provides a nice web interface to managing your VMs, though it appears the project is on pause right now. I actually have a few semi-production servers running under VirtualBox on a Linux host, as I found far better disk performance there for FreeBSD guests than under KVM. Hopefully that changes soon, if it hasn't already. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Bill Tillman wrote: > I've been looking into setting up some Linux servers but instead I'm > thinking that I could use Virtual Box on my FreeBSD servers to do this. I > would like some seasoned advice from others on the following before > proceeding: > > 1. As I understand it you can install Virtual Box from the ports > collection. But then I see the instructions in the Handbook: > > To launch VirtualBox, type from a Xorg session: > % VirtualBox > So am I to assume the only way to run Virtual Box is to have Xorg > installed and running on the FreeBSD server? Which is a drag because my > current FreeBSD servers are exactly that, servers, and do not have the > fancy video cards, monitors, etc.. to run Xorg. Is there an alternative to > running the interface from Xorg. I'm a command line fanatic when it comes > to servers. Or would I be able to install Xvnc or something like that and > run it from one of my Windows 7 machines which has all the fancy > video capabilities? > > > 2. Once installed, I will be able to install something like Fedora or > openSUSE? These will only be installed as server so I can run databases > like MySQL in the Linux environment. The client I'm working for insists on > using SUSE...no FreeBSD allowed. They think it's poison and are very biased > on this so there's no talking them out of it. I need to gain experience > using these databases on Linux, not FreeBSD. > > 3. I'm going to buy a 1 TB SATA drive for this setup. It will be running > on an AMD64 server with FreeBSD 9.x or whatever is the latest release as of > this weekend. > > 4. There is also a Plan 'B' to go the other way. Since I already have two > i7 machines running Windows 7, perhaps it might be better to install the > Windows version of Virtual Box or even VMWare and create my instances of > Linux on one or even both of these machines. > > Any advice would be appreciated. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 21 09:23:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2318B48 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@d2ux.net) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org (static.209.96.9.5.clients.your-server.de [5.9.96.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86549D32 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org (mail [10.0.0.3]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9FD84F25CD for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:23:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org ([10.0.0.3]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (mail.s1.d2ux.org [10.0.0.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R1KO_G58IGmL for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:23:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from compaq.local (p5DDA9E95.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.218.158.149]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6BBF484F2586 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:23:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5173B04E.3020406@d2ux.net> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:24:30 +0200 From: Matthias Petermann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130330 Thunderbird/10.0.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Managing conflicts between ports (same package with multiple maintained versions) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:23:45 -0000 Hello, I am the maintainer of most of the Tryton ports. Tryton is a python based application framework where you can easily build your own business modules on top. It also provides some default modules for common uses. Currently Tryton 2.4 series is in the ports. From upstream the successor Tryton 2.6 is available. At Tryton, also previous releases are supported for an extended time. This is required, because users who spent time to build their own modules on top of e.g. 2.4 should not be forced to migrate immediately to 2.6 (and likely use a different API) just for a security patch or a bug fix. Thats why I want to bring in 2.6 to the ports while continuing maintaining 2.4. During the planning, I ran into the following issue: Tryton 2.4 and 2.6 install files to the same Python site-packages directory /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/trytond-2.4.5-py2.7.egg /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/trytond-2.6.3-py2.7.egg Even there "egg" names are different, the contained package names are equal: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/trytond-2.4.5-py2.7.egg/trytond /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/trytond-2.6.3-py2.7.egg/trytond So for the python interpreter it would not be clear which one to import if you just "import trytond". Renaming the package names doesn't look reasonable because it would require patching all Tryton modules (and will make it incompatible with custom built modules). So I think it is required to define it as a conflict if two versions of Tryton will be installed at the same time. My first approach was to define CONFLICTS= trytond-* in the Makefiles of trytond 2.4 and 2.6. This works and prevents installing two different versions. But portlint doesn't seem happy with it: root@compaq:/usr/ports/finance/trytond # portlint -AC [...] FATAL: Package conflicts with itself. You should remove "trytond-*" from CONFLICTS. 1 fatal error and 4 warnings found. root@compaq:/usr/ports/finance/trytond # So it looks like I need to explicitly specify the conflicting versions, e.g. in Tryton 2.4 Makefile put: CONFLICTS= trytond-2.6.* But this will force me to update the 2.4 Ports everytime a new series of Tryton gets introduced. Is there a better way to achieve this? Thanks in advance & kind regards, Matthias From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 21 11:51:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23F58BB; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:51:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855631090; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.104.23.98] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UTsn9-0006nC-QE; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:50:48 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r3LBojHe003502; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:50:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id r3LBohR5003501; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:50:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:50:43 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Koop Mast Subject: Re: Problems with ekiga3 build Message-ID: <20130421115043.GA3462@tinyCurrent> References: <3108039.oy3zg9g7JA@zeus> <20130307060112.GA2348@tinyCurrent> <20130331100200.GA17107@tinyCurrent> <51581F8F.2010600@rainbow-runner.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <51581F8F.2010600@rainbow-runner.nl> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT r214444 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 93.104.23.98 Cc: gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Derrick Dantavious Edwards , Ekiga devel mailing list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 11:51:04 -0000 El día Sunday, March 31, 2013 a las 01:35:43PM +0200, Koop Mast escribió: > I'm looking into updating the ptlib/opal/ekiga ports. So ekiga 4 will > happen. Btw if you can't wait for that, gtk30 was updated to 3.6, and > you can get a more recent gnome-icon-theme port from our devel repo. I was able to compile ptlib/opal/ekiga out of SVN and Git on my 10-CURRENT with a ports tree from SVN head r315646 as of April 1st, 2013 and the above mentioned gnome-icon-theme-3.4.0; the instructions of the build are here: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Compile_your_own_SVN_version_of_Ekiga_on_FreeBSD HIH someone matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 21 13:07:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1407656 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pulley@dabus.com) Received: from aegir.dabus.com (aegir.dabus.com [173.14.229.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A417B12E5 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from aegir.dabus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegir.dabus.com (Processor) with ESMTP id D09BC5F322 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 06:59:58 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; b=qaBImyxqDVTcmkIy936Lvjt7xiQ3b0dd0ahDGVDZfIH/r8i3Tqn6OV+XZTCOSS+Ra4bQBUYvxl/kE1Y9cMxHNO0qYruAtcLjF9letuew2L7RcsMmzgWtc2FzIXzES7HVa7Y3VMQNhz+DqDe/tbTiodOQDJSJWMpRL5T88vEcqg8=; c=nofws; d=dabus.com; q=dns; s=aegir1 Received: from webmail.dabus.com (aegir.dabus.com [173.14.229.218]) by aegir.dabus.com (Dabus) with ESMTPA id 0DAD05F2D4 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 06:59:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 131.77.1.84 by webmail.dabus.com with HTTP; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 06:59:58 -0600 Message-ID: <880e6ba8c3f0d767bff0ee96530038f9.squirrel@webmail.dabus.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 06:59:58 -0600 Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? From: "Eric S Pulley" To: "FreeBSD Questions" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:07:43 -0000 > Hi, > > I'm looking to replace the piece of crap 2wire WiFi router that gets > crakced every other day for something with pfSense or m0n0wall > > I would like something that is plug and play and easy to use in the > $300 rage tops that has the WiFi router integrated. It seems only > Hacom offers this. Can anyone recommend something different or has > anyone here tried Hacom WiFi routers? > > Any additional comments or recommendations? > > Thanks, > > -- > Alejandro Imass Get a HostAP capable miniPCI card and stick it in a netbook. I did that to an Acer I picked up cheap and added external antenna (not sure how much that mattered), works great all for under 300USD. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 21 13:29:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1695391B for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zainulpjb@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x244.google.com (mail-la0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9886C1362 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f68.google.com with SMTP id fq12so280549lab.7 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 06:29:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ydzDZDyxeGBOeIKICo/AqhaqX+9MaWgAK5aevv60Odc=; b=MWDR6AOYlNlOayovoGS0By+Efq0x2WX9MRBWR0LR/00tbL5AIAPlJyQrkME6qk1/B8 rU+zhd/6UPp0p3DRYoKlpaHfwHHzAalx8dz1kt/bXGvdoDeJSlCKSeJtdKC+oks/EVrP u+tp1GsVC6tmoPtCsSnh9cQDm8bTrzE8zI6rQW5UlyUmcUy/NfYmxbhYdM7Vde6phIIu pEt/Bckc9z7vixszSRXxK+0qJvKPs/S9YFxJ1nCfe1Dzbp5MvZC4Xo9iJMARhGDIZLWK NCP7n/5t5y89v1yZaQKMFvR+5y2Rg5C1R4OK9oS3L5lacTLneO/upqlouIJaiXXBOgK5 PPxQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.135.3 with SMTP id po3mr8220856lbb.103.1366550974533; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 06:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.155.162 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 06:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:29:34 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: http://localhost/phpmyadmin From: zainul zaen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:29:36 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 21 13:52:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B94D94 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC00713F0 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:52:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UTugp-0005ur-Jr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:52:23 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:52:23 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:52:23 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:52:12 -0400 Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:52:35 -0000 Alejandro Imass wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking to replace the piece of crap 2wire WiFi router that gets > crakced every other day for something with pfSense or m0n0wall Not sure what you mean by 'cracked' here. If you are meaning that someone is using aircrack-ng to break your Wifi authentication key a firewall won't do much to stop this. -Mike [snip] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 21 14:10:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43440211 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ascherrer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7A614AC for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id m6so3001214wiv.1 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:10:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HgUObNBoSCBhYs4SjHabjIWrcWXKio08zt/9wg2/lYI=; b=MDLBHoqTpVZrp0G6oH742c42TNs5Xb0rszO2N++xCN+1+ATS/B/ewh5fqZQz7soIi7 aM5tnxLDds40Bpn/P0CpNywWqvA4vI8cmOyQiBcQTNeRkoGl3KDJKXqg1cNrFKyH1jm7 CZHALIUqIPcAAnqjlTiG+e9pM35xpUew/xw4DDrdnjR695b4DYbvywH2qJrmRgeFko1p eH0gSiUF+uXjWgtPwRpdQDPFY7TNDSn07w3+X6lr0ynBic+1SeTNmZ7tPi2hiBG4GQxr 1rBeUpHx9U8ycbLvkhZIrqU5yVO7zT3s+glayPO6MxA/cqlwIEQ7qHxK1t+gqEmEzfrs +sYg== X-Received: by 10.180.77.10 with SMTP id o10mr11746335wiw.10.1366553435982; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manzana.hws.homeip.net ([2001:470:b71d:1:225:ff:fef2:447f]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cb50sm34957658eeb.14.2013.04.21.07.10.34 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 21 Apr 2013 07:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5173F359.3030400@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:10:33 +0200 From: andreas scherrer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Keeping FreeBSD with custom kernel up to date: freebsd-update no option? References: <516DA8A8.5040305@gmail.com> <20130416221851.5d898701.freebsd@edvax.de> <516F07F2.7020201@gmail.com> <20130417225532.4fcd15f9.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20130417225532.4fcd15f9.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:10:37 -0000 Thank you, Polytropon. I have (as far as I can tell) successfully upgraded to 9.1-RELEASE-p2 now. For this I moved /usr/src (SVN) out of the way and followed the upgrade process described in "25.2.3.2 Performing the Upgrade" in the Handbook [1]. on 17.4.13 22:55 Polytropon said the following: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 22:37:06 +0200, andreas scherrer wrote: >> For some reason I was under the impression that /usr/src/sys is not >> being updated by freebsd-update if I remove "kernel" from the >> "Components" directive in freebsd-update.conf. But I might be wrong (I >> will check). > > According to the documentation, /usr/src (and therefor the > /usr/src/sys subtree) is part of the "src" component, not > of "kernel", so it should be updated properly. OK. I will check if my /usr/src(/sys) ever changes now. I too think it should. >> Maybe related to this: how does freebsd-update "know" what >> sources/binaries to get when I don't use the "-r" switch? Does it rely >> on /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh? That would still interest me (also see below). > By following -RELEASE, freebsd-update will "apply _that_ snapshot > of the source tree and the prebuild world and kernel at the > revision when X.Y-RELEASE-pZ has been verified", sloppily said. > So it basically doesn't matter what sources you have on your > machine (or even if you have any sources) as long as you're not > going to compile anything. But because this is a requirement in > your specific setting, freebsd-update will take care of that by > having the "src" component on its list. So how would I "follow -RELEASE". Or how does freebsd-update what I want to follow (see above)? I don't want to, so this is an academic question... And something else is bugging me: Is there a way I can contact "someone" (Tom Rhodes?) about the outdated freebsd-update documentation (concerning the custom kernel handling) in the Handbook ("FreeBSD Update" [2])? Colin Percival's email is in the man page, would that be the way to go? The Handbook states that Tom Rhodes wrote the freebsd-update section but does not reveal an email address... Kind regards andreas [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html [2] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 21 15:57:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA911CE for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:57:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2CC16F0 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:57:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r3LFvHli074985 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:57:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r3LFvHli074985 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r3LFvHli074985; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) Message-ID: <51740C57.7010305@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:57:11 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Petermann Subject: Re: Managing conflicts between ports (same package with multiple maintained versions) References: <5173B04E.3020406@d2ux.net> In-Reply-To: <5173B04E.3020406@d2ux.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2NABGMJLFNDQBWMRMVJHF" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.7 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:57:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2NABGMJLFNDQBWMRMVJHF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 21/04/2013 10:24, Matthias Petermann wrote: > root@compaq:/usr/ports/finance/trytond # portlint -AC > [...] > FATAL: Package conflicts with itself. You should remove "trytond-*" fro= m > CONFLICTS. > 1 fatal error and 4 warnings found. > root@compaq:/usr/ports/finance/trytond # >=20 > So it looks like I need to explicitly specify the conflicting versions,= > e.g. in Tryton 2.4 Makefile put: >=20 > CONFLICTS=3D trytond-2.6.* >=20 > But this will force me to update the 2.4 Ports everytime a new series o= f > Tryton gets introduced. The usual idiom would be to use a more complex globbing expression, perhaps like so: CONFLICTS=3D trytond-2.[012356789].* However clearly this won't account for all possible future versions. The thing you have to ask yourself is 'will the upstream be releasing new version series so frequently that I need to add code to all the tryton ports to account for it?' It may well be the case that updating the CONFLICTS setting in all the ports for the different streams whenerver a new stream is released really is the most effective solution.= Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey ------enig2NABGMJLFNDQBWMRMVJHF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlF0DF0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyn3wCeP6EK4JRJKuulscFomqsVdKeI sj0An1/fjxgS1w3UnHUdTVbreCsf1qmP =0Pe7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2NABGMJLFNDQBWMRMVJHF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 21 16:52:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700E5381; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:52:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias@d2ux.net) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org (static.209.96.9.5.clients.your-server.de [5.9.96.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FDA18A1; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org (mail [10.0.0.3]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453FC84F257D; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 18:52:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.s1.d2ux.org ([10.0.0.3]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (mail.s1.d2ux.org [10.0.0.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LQyrhSwBP-Tu; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 18:52:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from compaq.local (p5DDA9E95.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.218.158.149]) by mail.s1.d2ux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 95B2C84F2564; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 18:52:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51741971.6010109@d2ux.net> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 18:53:05 +0200 From: Matthias Petermann User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130330 Thunderbird/10.0.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Managing conflicts between ports (same package with multiple maintained versions) References: <5173B04E.3020406@d2ux.net> <51740C57.7010305@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <51740C57.7010305@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:52:21 -0000 Thanks Matthew, your recommendation works for me. As I expect from time to time also an older version getting EOL'd, the amount of versions to look ahead can be estimated quite well. Kind regards, Matthias On 04/21/13 17:57, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 21/04/2013 10:24, Matthias Petermann wrote: >> root@compaq:/usr/ports/finance/trytond # portlint -AC >> [...] >> FATAL: Package conflicts with itself. You should remove "trytond-*" from >> CONFLICTS. >> 1 fatal error and 4 warnings found. >> root@compaq:/usr/ports/finance/trytond # >> >> So it looks like I need to explicitly specify the conflicting versions, >> e.g. in Tryton 2.4 Makefile put: >> >> CONFLICTS= trytond-2.6.* >> >> But this will force me to update the 2.4 Ports everytime a new series of >> Tryton gets introduced. > The usual idiom would be to use a more complex globbing expression, > perhaps like so: > > CONFLICTS= trytond-2.[012356789].* > > However clearly this won't account for all possible future versions. > The thing you have to ask yourself is 'will the upstream be releasing > new version series so frequently that I need to add code to all the > tryton ports to account for it?' It may well be the case that updating > the CONFLICTS setting in all the ports for the different streams > whenerver a new stream is released really is the most effective solution. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 22 06:21:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2681411 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jennifer.rns1@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-x243.google.com (mail-pb0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F941293 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f67.google.com with SMTP id rr4so89168pbb.6 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:21:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=wgdJzDYrxSQoRXo3UINZzHeG0zTqxn1VQXCyhqm/Ivw=; b=WSsnoI8QmwWtX+GeEMefN2/uC2r33CKAYnVrIA0CRmipj9p7xJ9tFD9xhV3qwyRFhh NoNGBq5tsZT2D4bdOaIzkAK/THVG9iEzABPj77UnnmrWDzafQSFA4UXPN9F2SXbYRZDQ 12vpx8qn73X72v8GDeHDw3GMr3nJbWCGu36DPtjgJmgBQ0w1EkHvmIWZw0O3CxtWSdt6 pykJWTXr0B2r0kCf08A6LzToy0401MesH7N4I7quOl+Bx+5DKS9nDY6PNbIg5bTxj+OI OPwLJ7jtVR76s70nT1LVYPAj+9TKZngZA3TH0XHxngN+suGLRoiWTyTspdAlSmUXcXn8 TkAg== X-Received: by 10.66.87.5 with SMTP id t5mr11239307paz.169.1366611692620; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rnsgovind ([122.162.101.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t1sm25733977pab.12.2013.04.21.23.21.30 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:21:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "jennifer" To: Subject: Website Development Services Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:51:04 +0530 Message-ID: <5174d6eb.e10b420a.287d.4c8e@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac4/IXxDG7fyFqkrTlOwjK3dO+ovqA== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 06:21:33 -0000 Hi, I am Jennifer Marketing Executive of IT Company Firm based in New Delhi, India. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 22 08:54:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A119515 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:54:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50E01868 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE011AF8A9 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:47:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.8.0 (20120630) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([213.251.152.9]) by newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C-PtaTUz6g93 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:47:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9EBABAF894 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:47:15 +0200 (CEST) From: "bsd@todoo.biz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re-installing a system on a new LUN while system is up and running Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:47:15 +0200 To: Liste FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 08:54:16 -0000 Hello,=20 I have an 7.4 system that I wish to update to 9.1 - It is a live mail = server with couple of 100's persons on it.=20 This system is deployed on an Intel modular which allows me to connect = any LUN to this device.=20 My idea was to create a new LUN and connect It to my system, then deploy = the 9.1 version of the system on It, migrate the data on it and then = reboot the system with everything updated, up and running=85=20 Is this feasible ?=20 How do I have to proceed to do this ? 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 22 14:56:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF6459E for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E164101F for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:56:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.202.176]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:56:14 -0700 Message-ID: <51754F90.1090807@a1poweruser.com> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:56:16 -0400 From: Joe User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: jail(8) vimage epair bridge Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2013 14:56:15.0083 (UTC) FILETIME=[8978BBB0:01CE3F69] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:56:20 -0000 Hello questions list I am using jail(8) trying to get a functional vimage environment on my 9.1-RELEASE system. My PC only has a single real NIC facing the public internet. My goal is to be able to have multiple vimage jails, each with their own epairXa epairXb and bridgeX where the "X" is the jails JID number all having their traffic passing through the single rl0 real interface. The vnet.start script shown below handles this nicely. The problem is after the first vimage jail is started the rl0 interface gets marked as busy when the second vimage jail is started. How do I get all vnet jails to pass through the real rl0 interface? Thanks for you help # /root >cat /etc/jail.conf vimage33 { host.hostname = "vimage33"; path = "/usr/jails/vimage33"; mount.fstab = "/usr/local/etc/fstab/vimage33"; exec.start = "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; exec.consolelog = "/var/log/vimage33.console.log"; devfs_ruleset = "4"; allow.mount.devfs; vnet; exec.poststart="vnet.start vimage33 rl0"; exec.prestop="vnet.stop vimage33"; } # /root >cat /usr/local/bin/vnet.start #!/bin/sh jailname=$1 nicname=$2 jid=`jls -j ${jailname} jid` if [ "${jid}" -gt "100" ]; then echo " " echo "The JID value is greater then 100." echo "You must shutdown the host and reboot" echo "to zero out the JID counter and recover" echo "the lost memory from stopping vimage jails." echo " " exit 2 fi ifconfig bridge${jid} create > /dev/null 2> /dev/null ifconfig bridge${jid} 10.${jid}.0.1 ifconfig bridge${jid} up ifconfig epair${jid} create > /dev/null 2> /dev/null ifconfig bridge${jid} addm ${nicname} addm epair${jid}a ifconfig epair${jid}a up ifconfig epair${jid}b vnet ${jid} jexec ${jailname} ifconfig epair${jid}b 10.${jid}.0.2 jexec ${jailname} route add default 10.${jid}.0.1 > /dev/null 2> /dev/null jexec ${jailname} ifconfig lo0 127.0.0.1 # Display the hosts network view before starting any vnet jails # /root >ifconfig rl0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu options=2008 ether 00:0c:6e:09:8b:74 inet 10.0.10.5 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 10.0.10.7 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=8810 metric 0 mtu 1500 nd6 options=29 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=600003 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 nd6 options=21 # Start the first vnet jail # /root >jail -f /etc/jail.conf -c vimage33 vimage33: created bridge1: Ethernet address: 02:8f:94:84:0c:02 epair1a: Ethernet address: 02:c0:a4:00:0b:0a epair1b: Ethernet address: 02:c0:a4:00:0c:0b # /root >jls JID IP Address Hostname Path 1 - vimage33 /usr/jails/vimage33 # Lets display the hosts network after the first vnet jail has started # /root >ifconfig rl0: flags=8943 metric 0 options=2008 ether 00:0c:6e:09:8b:74 inet 10.0.10.5 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 10.0.10.7 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=8810 metric 0 mtu 1500 nd6 options=29 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=600003 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 nd6 options=21 bridge1: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu ether 02:8f:94:84:0c:01 inet 10.1.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255 nd6 options=21 id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 2000 timeout 1200 root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 member: epair1a flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 9 priority 128 path cost 14183 member: rl0 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 5 priority 128 path cost 200000 epair1a: flags=8943 options=8 ether 02:c0:a4:00:09:0a inet6 fe80::c0:a4ff:fe00:90a%epair1a prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9 nd6 options=21 media: Ethernet 10Gbase-T (10Gbase-T ) status: active # Login to the vnet jail and display the jails view of the network # /root >jexec vimage33 tcsh vimage33 / >ifconfig lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=600003 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 nd6 options=21 epair1b: flags=8843 metric 0 options=8 ether 02:c0:a4:00:0a:0b inet 10.1.0.2 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255 inet6 fe80::c0:a4ff:fe00:a0b%epair1b prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 nd6 options=21 media: Ethernet 10Gbase-T (10Gbase-T ) status: active # Yes the vnet jail can reach the public network vimage33 / >ping -c 4 8.8.178.135 PING 8.8.178.135 (8.8.178.135): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 8.8.178.135: icmp_seq=0 ttl=51 time=84.645 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.178.135: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=86.950 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.178.135: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=83.274 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.178.135: icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=82.660 ms --- 8.8.178.135 ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 82.660/84.382/86.950/1.647 ms vimage33 / >exit exit # Lets start the second vnet jail # /root >cat /etc/jail.conf.22 vimage22 { host.hostname = "vimage22"; path = "/usr/jails/vimage22"; mount.fstab = "/usr/local/etc/fstab/vimage22"; exec.start = "/bin/sh /etc/rc"; exec.stop = "/bin/sh /etc/rc.shutdown"; exec.consolelog = "/var/log/vimage22.console.log"; devfs_ruleset = "4"; allow.mount.devfs; vnet; exec.poststart="vnet.start vimage22 rl0"; exec.prestop="vnet.stop vimage22"; } # /root >jail -f /etc/jail.conf.22 -c vimage22 vimage22: created # Notice this message about rl0 ifconfig: BRDGADD rl0: Device busy bridge2: Ethernet address: 02:8f:94:84:0c:02 epair2a: Ethernet address: 02:c0:a4:00:0b:0a epair2b: Ethernet address: 02:c0:a4:00:0c:0b # Lets check the hosts view of the network - no rl0 on bridge2 # /root >ifconfig rl0: flags=8943 options=2008 ether 00:0c:6e:09:8b:74 inet 10.0.10.5 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 10.0.10.7 nd6 options=29 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active plip0: flags=8810 metric 0 mtu 1500 nd6 options=29 lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=600003 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 nd6 options=21 bridge1: flags=8843 metric 0 ether 02:8f:94:84:0c:01 inet 10.1.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255 nd6 options=21 id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 2000 timeout 1200 root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 member: epair1a flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 9 priority 128 path cost 14183 member: rl0 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 5 priority 128 path cost 200000 epair1a: flags=8943 options=8 ether 02:c0:a4:00:09:0a inet6 fe80::c0:a4ff:fe00:90a%epair1a prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9 nd6 options=21 media: Ethernet 10Gbase-T (10Gbase-T ) status: active bridge2: flags=8843 metric 0 ether 02:8f:94:84:0c:02 inet 10.2.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255 nd6 options=21 id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 2000 timeout 1200 root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 epair2a: flags=8843 metric 0 options=8 ether 02:c0:a4:00:0b:0a inet6 fe80::c0:a4ff:fe00:b0a%epair2a prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb nd6 options=21 media: Ethernet 10Gbase-T (10Gbase-T ) status: active # /root >jls JID IP Address Hostname Path 1 - vimage33 /usr/jails/vimage33 2 - vimage22 /usr/jails/vimage22 # login to second vnet jail and see if it has public internet connection # /root >jexec vimage22 tcsh vimage22 / >ifconfig lo0: flags=8049 metric 0 mtu 16384 options=600003 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 nd6 options=21 epair2b: flags=8843 metric 0 options=8 ether 02:c0:a4:00:0c:0b inet 10.2.0.2 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255 inet6 fe80::c0:a4ff:fe00:c0b%epair2b prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 nd6 options=21 media: Ethernet 10Gbase-T (10Gbase-T ) status: active vimage22 / >ping -c 4 8.8.178.135 PING 8.8.178.135 (8.8.178.135): 56 data bytes --- 8.8.178.135 ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss vimage22 / >exit exit # Stop the second vnet jail # /root >jail -f /etc/jail.conf.22 -r vimage22 vimage22: removed Freed UMA keg was not empty (30 items). Lost 2 pages of memory. Freed UMA keg was not empty (203 items). Lost 1 pages of memory. Freed UMA keg was not empty (30 items). Lost 2 pages of memory. Freed UMA keg was not empty (10 items). Lost 2 pages of memory. Freed UMA keg was not empty (30 items). Lost 2 pages of memory. hhook_vnet_uninit: hhook_head type=1, id=1 cleanup required hhook_vnet_uninit: hhook_head type=1, id=0 cleanup required # Stop the first vnet jail # /root >jail -f /etc/jail.conf -r vimage33 vimage33: removed Freed UMA keg was not empty (30 items). Lost 2 pages of memory. Freed UMA keg was not empty (203 items). Lost 1 pages of memory. Freed UMA keg was not empty (30 items). Lost 2 pages of memory. Freed UMA keg was not empty (10 items). Lost 2 pages of memory. Freed UMA keg was not empty (30 items). Lost 2 pages of memory. hhook_vnet_uninit: hhook_head type=1, id=1 cleanup required hhook_vnet_uninit: hhook_head type=1, id=0 cleanup required # /root >exit exit Script done on Mon Apr 22 09:35:41 2013 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 22 17:20:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE8AAF8 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:20:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-da0-x22d.google.com (mail-da0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D6617BA for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f45.google.com with SMTP id v40so3227432dad.32 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:20:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ZwSyEcFXTatDAQndtM7HBohp22tDo8uU+HXUFLJPjWE=; b=eTM2jURA8z/8qApq9lZkX/EY17CuTV1fDmnsr2rBfVqSa+SosT91Av9fclIjso+eNe Hs89Soz5Tw1ujN9wbkSgZ1zaYn67MLWWMmbnoOqWrSeJCEhUbR86RIMbzwtp7iAmi0Ug yO2moFImXEKY2H41U09FBQgKFTVOhd3ZnejFm3ACdq7/RFJJAbfeKFaHWNWsaLE8Ou0Q gaeJbF7VVV6pRmd+bs/2hdkTahnw59Gb+IJntHOGgC1DrHEwrxHjJgxsJeyybtyDuMeH C4iYMe+2uD8COwLAPSY7vgzPRkP/VEKj/FVZ3MEtc9wrBFm7ZkpnOCDKob9B8Ut6Qvrw VmGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.26.143 with SMTP id l15mr9725373pag.207.1366650854930; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.235.3 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:14:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:14:14 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? From: Alejandro Imass To: Michael Powell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk41KdZ+t95aTdvdo9Ug15Y/mAFg1bpQChzxnEo915+Gz6yvovftEjTJDY5Vv8rfCOo5CXo Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:20:53 -0000 On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Michael Powell wrote: > Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm looking to replace the piece of crap 2wire WiFi router that gets >> crakced every other day for something with pfSense or m0n0wall > > Not sure what you mean by 'cracked' here. If you are meaning that someone is > using aircrack-ng to break your Wifi authentication key a firewall won't do > much to stop this. > I use mac address authentication plus wpa2 psk and yet they are still able to connect so it seems that 2Wire's routers are an insecure piece of crap and they are full of holes and back-doors. Just google 2wire vulnerabilities or take a look at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTtQGPdSIfM Look at how many ISPs world-wide use 2wire. Makes you wonder if ISPs use these crappy routers on purpose to get some more revenue from cap overruns. Cheers, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 22 18:25:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5927C2C3 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1965E1C18 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UULQs-0003er-5D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:25:42 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:25:42 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:25:42 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:25:30 -0400 Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:25:51 -0000 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Michael Powell > wrote: >> Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm looking to replace the piece of crap 2wire WiFi router that gets >>> crakced every other day for something with pfSense or m0n0wall >> >> Not sure what you mean by 'cracked' here. If you are meaning that someone >> is using aircrack-ng to break your Wifi authentication key a firewall >> won't do much to stop this. >> > > I use mac address authentication plus wpa2 psk and yet they are still > able to connect so it seems that 2Wire's routers are an insecure piece > of crap and they are full of holes and back-doors. Just google 2wire > vulnerabilities or take a look at this video > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTtQGPdSIfM With Kismet able to place a wifi unit into monitor mode you can quickly get a list of everything in the vicinity, including all the MAC addresses of devices connecting the various access points. You can then clone your unit's MAC address to match one in the list. Even though I do use it, MAC access lists are very easy to get around and will only stop those who do not know how to do this. Even in passive mode, without using active attack to speed things up I can crack a WEP key in 45 minutes easily. Doing this passively doesn't expose you. The time it takes depends on how busy the access point is. An active attack can break WEP in 2-3 minutes, or less. I've seen it done between a minute and a minute and a half. Most consider the answer to use WPA2, which I do use too. Many think it is 'virtually' unbreakable, but this really is not true; it just takes longer. I've done WPA2 keys in as little as 2-3 hours before. > Look at how many ISPs world-wide use 2wire. Makes you wonder if ISPs > use these crappy routers on purpose to get some more revenue from cap > overruns. > Really these WEP/WPA2 protocols are not providing the level of protection that is truly necessary in this modern day. You can keep out script kiddies and people who don't have skill, but people who know what they are doing are only slowed down. The ISPs are seemingly more interested and concerned with protecting Big Media Content's DRM schemes. They have a monetary stake as they move in the direction of deals with 'Big Media', less so the incentive to do more for their retail Internet-access customer. And don't even me started on the advertising industry run-amok. :-) -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 22 18:49:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB88D599 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-pd0-f181.google.com (mail-pd0-f181.google.com [209.85.192.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8081DF9 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:49:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f181.google.com with SMTP id y10so3753701pdj.26 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:49:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=CLBQ5lT6AwuUW2NvSPFC5cxBSxuP8CT8DhM0JbCS1Yc=; b=jQHIKGZATxNJYkhYHHa13o077JE9dTyTghYE9AyVL+3e73+dqYt2P8A4/4y+tjUWOV cNZnDEA2tysT+zLlG5iEESo79J3sA1IjuW5BCVU8lWV3YLZBlXudwXF2JvOEeoaHwjZf VyKVlj12mnB2wi+P5C9ReJyFA372sPImCPxOnXH9/CQV64dN0qt6i45+gJt+rhWmvyCD CYEJkhx0KVcFuKBM1TGxpxp64bin9vyiuIrLid3WWf7qg4wq9gAGY0I/8jdGzglFIyx6 dn2DDcqT6nGipOqfWLiMlPp0fLOmlGRM+eIWZg5ZUsXL1tAc5nhpgZAilSH8J3/S3SRi NfHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.189.33 with SMTP id gf1mr10166918pbc.207.1366656182213; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.235.3 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:43:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:43:02 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? From: Alejandro Imass To: Michael Powell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnKL17zEsGANRfLLFfGVJAUeDXQI7Z0P7Wu+Y2ipZq9MbEk4cfCdITaeN3l4oQlF5wR2/c/ Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:49:06 -0000 On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Michael Powell >> wrote: >>> Alejandro Imass wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> [...] > Really these WEP/WPA2 protocols are not providing the level of protection > that is truly necessary in this modern day. You can keep out script kiddies > and people who don't have skill, but people who know what they are doing are > only slowed down. > Thanks for the detailed explanation! So, are there ways to run a secure WiFi network? It would seem that in my case I have neighbours that know what they're doing so should I just forget about WiFi go back to UTP? Thanks, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 22 19:46:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C8447C for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41581118 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UUMgj-0001uR-Bs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:46:09 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:46:09 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:46:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:45:57 -0400 Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 19:46:11 -0000 Alejandro Imass wrote: > [...] > >> Really these WEP/WPA2 protocols are not providing the level of protection >> that is truly necessary in this modern day. You can keep out script >> kiddies and people who don't have skill, but people who know what they >> are doing are only slowed down. >> > > Thanks for the detailed explanation! So, are there ways to run a > secure WiFi network? It would seem that in my case I have neighbours > that know what they're doing so should I just forget about WiFi go > back to UTP? > We use 802.1x auth on our switch (and other hardwares) ports at work and this utilizes a Radius server. At work we are mostly a $MS WinderZ shop, but with Enterprise grade access points (we have Aruba's), EAP, and Radius we can extend our network Kerberos out through the wifi realm. Without going into details ( way too much/many for the scope here) I basically have an almost completely locked network which just won't allow a device on it that it doesn't recognize. It is a pain, and not perfect either by any stretch. I have more problems with printers as a result than anything else. I do have to keep an open Internet access for visitors to use, but it is separated from our main network with no path between the two. :-) This does provide better security when compared to what consumers are running at home. It is much more complex and requires expensive equipment. And even still, a really high-grade Uber hacker might still find a way in. We hire pen-tester companies about once a year, and while they haven't found any glaring holes there are some "grey" areas that we wonder if a really motivated Uber hacker spent enough time on... I have entertained on and off the idea of getting a wifi card for my FreeBSD gateway/firewall box at home to see if I could come up with something more resembling something like we have at work. It probably wouldn't be as involved, but I do think (FreeBSD as a very _capable_ and flexible OS) something could be designed that would inherently be somewhat more secure than what I see in the basic ISP home router. I have Verizon's FIOS here with an Actiontec MI424WR-Rev 3 router and I think I could do better. The alternate provider here is Comcast which mostly seems to be using Motorola Surfboard routers, but the bottom line is I don't have any problem cracking any of them. This email is already getting a trifle long, so suffice to say if you really need the best security on a home ISP router the best you can do is turn off the radio and use Ethernet and UTP. This returns to the original focus of your question in that the firewall would be the point of contention and not the cracking of WEP/WPA2 auth keys. What I was wanting to point out to you originally is that changing the firewall is a separate issue from the cracking of Wifi auth keys. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 22 20:09:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43E9A71 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-da0-x22a.google.com (mail-da0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27DF1213 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f42.google.com with SMTP id n15so1481158dad.15 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:09:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=QXwlZVTTMMQrx1jWvHTOd9NcDMaxuK8jeVjEp8NOVZU=; b=Vo4SUGP0q3Woku3heOIwom5S7xz4/dnXOFP+Xz3InTr8S/TjO0MexXFfnUfqGrqTt0 4d/8nDvkwmVkjImB7iT0FtMetVMsw1Qp8yJ8AkjnB/9W7oIumI4fpJjFfiNqWsPby5rY vb2wNosl/GKu5H0Hl9Eify+5/2iQEKmajYEqW2H6kFz22G/rwl1119iZRzqZvsbn+oXu kxbLiiqH2Pq9FK6qhrWtVH3e+Mf3SaErvZbTomZBSgkn3RRfIskqmAMOo3oqZJXTEcYC wAO0G0eFZjR0tGXmd+3ixXMttlBShm7HL74mN7BV8mrUm8Cknk/rorFg+WuiX2ub0cCg pD9Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.180.132 with SMTP id do4mr34272948pbc.96.1366661374566; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.235.3 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:09:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:09:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? From: Alejandro Imass To: Michael Powell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkQuqbCrZWoY2WhGSoBPlRGLMN4j2zWRGvRRP6/yvjdkfEd6KU5cVke1RdU0ulwk9JpYW5L Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:09:35 -0000 On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> [...] >> >>> Really these WEP/WPA2 protocols are not providing the level of protection >>> that is truly necessary in this modern day. You can keep out script >>> kiddies and people who don't have skill, but people who know what they >>> are doing are only slowed down. >>> >> >> Thanks for the detailed explanation! So, are there ways to run a >> secure WiFi network? It would seem that in my case I have neighbours >> that know what they're doing so should I just forget about WiFi go >> back to UTP? >> > > We use 802.1x auth on our switch (and other hardwares) ports at work and > this utilizes a Radius server. At work we are mostly a $MS WinderZ shop, but > with Enterprise grade access points (we have Aruba's), EAP, and Radius we [...] > > This email is already getting a trifle long, so suffice to say if you really > need the best security on a home ISP router the best you can do is turn off > the radio and use Ethernet and UTP. This returns to the original focus of > your question in that the firewall would be the point of contention and not > the cracking of WEP/WPA2 auth keys. What I was wanting to point out to you > originally is that changing the firewall is a separate issue from the > cracking of Wifi auth keys. > I absolutely got that but I was assuming that a pre-packaged WiFi router with pfSense or m0n0wall would have a more secure wireless hardware and software as well. Now I see the problem is more complex and that the wireless part is vulnerable regardless. So if by cracking the wireless part they can spoof the mac addresses of authorized equipment, what other methods could a BSD-based firewall use to prevent the cracker from penetrating or using the network beyond the WiFi layer? From your response it seems very little or nothing really... Thanks again for your detailed answers! -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 22 20:49:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1A669C for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:49:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878741462 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UUNgO-0002is-Fr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:49:52 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:49:52 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:49:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:49:42 -0400 Lines: 76 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:49:54 -0000 Alejandro Imass wrote: > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Michael Powell > wrote: >> Alejandro Imass wrote: >> >>> [...] >>> >>>> Really these WEP/WPA2 protocols are not providing the level of >>>> protection that is truly necessary in this modern day. You can keep out >>>> script kiddies and people who don't have skill, but people who know >>>> what they are doing are only slowed down. >>>> >>> >>> Thanks for the detailed explanation! So, are there ways to run a >>> secure WiFi network? It would seem that in my case I have neighbours >>> that know what they're doing so should I just forget about WiFi go >>> back to UTP? >>> >> >> We use 802.1x auth on our switch (and other hardwares) ports at work and >> this utilizes a Radius server. At work we are mostly a $MS WinderZ shop, >> but with Enterprise grade access points (we have Aruba's), EAP, and >> Radius we > [...] >> >> This email is already getting a trifle long, so suffice to say if you >> really need the best security on a home ISP router the best you can do is >> turn off the radio and use Ethernet and UTP. This returns to the original >> focus of your question in that the firewall would be the point of >> contention and not the cracking of WEP/WPA2 auth keys. What I was wanting >> to point out to you originally is that changing the firewall is a >> separate issue from the cracking of Wifi auth keys. >> > > I absolutely got that but I was assuming that a pre-packaged WiFi > router with pfSense or m0n0wall would have a more secure wireless > hardware and software as well. Now I see the problem is more complex > and that the wireless part is vulnerable regardless. So if by cracking > the wireless part they can spoof the mac addresses of authorized > equipment, what other methods could a BSD-based firewall use to > prevent the cracker from penetrating or using the network beyond the > WiFi layer? From your response it seems very little or nothing > really... > Yes - unfortunately this is about the state of things. Not a whole lot you're going to do to improve the consumer grade home router. There are some hardware specific firmware projects that I've never played with such as: http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index The pre-packaged home equipment is relatively cheap when compared against the top of the line enterprise-grade commercial products. Most are some form of embedded Linux. For example, the MI424WR-Rev3 I have here is busybox ( http://www.busybox.net/ ). If you turn on remote management and telnet into it you get a busybox prompt! With a busybox shell and all busybox commands. The firewall many of these embedded Linux things are using is iptables2, the standard linux firewall package. What I was pondering is some form of L2TP tunnel, or some other form of IPSEC tunnel to form some kind of VPN like communication between the client and the wifi. Just never have begun to find the time to get anywhere with the idea. But basically it would resemble a VPN that only accepts connection from a tunnel endpoint client and not pass any traffic from any other client lacking this VPN-like endpoint. I think such a thing is very possible and have read some articles by people who have done very similar sounding things. Indeed, this is what SSL-VPN providers do via a subscription service so people surfing at open wifi coffee shops tunnel through the local open wifi and setup an encrypted VPN tunnel. Just not enough time in the day. I know it's do-able, just never have found the time to properly approach it. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 22 21:36:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0C04BA for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:36:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x22d.google.com (mail-ob0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6BA16E5 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id xn12so1376819obc.32 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:36:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=qkNMbrhN/EyObHRqN08Slct+lJHagJe3tjIDqn0ZEBc=; b=YwCKOYJxZX0JHxv7w600duOGQ6Lqtnx/AgJ+1jXQvv0TGLpxA5/QRK7OcWy+w81Mw3 SY+g3mtnEzSedupXZAbVvXPnbm8toc7R9as1mu5MWNCHatKQRZjGbWhBubJLeB8BgL0t CgB4UXH3EEHnY0JHJQcKlobOh8vtJfyAICljfUxqXEsk/B3SHj3SDSq3ocmCn4fMKHfe vBkdcak8JD9yo3ogd4GkxdkN+XUWZosotyPk1b6oscW3gvMqCYk1XO0okSCeIlXoPCi1 WnuRnBOOpTTJ8o4CAirAzfDbyHzzBs9NXPHNGFXWNvIPaoHCROomYfOutjASKtHml9e0 ZHuQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.179.7 with SMTP id dc7mr7300428oec.3.1366666567160; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.135.194 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:36:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: multipath to long ? From: Outback Dingo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:36:07 -0000 seems im having issues with an enclousure using multipath to drives. Any ideas? its FreeBSD 9.1 with 4 LSI controllers and 36 disks make_dev_physpath_alias: WARNING - Unable to alias multipath/SATA_LUN14 to enc@n5000ed572eeae5bd/type@0/slot@4/elmdesc@ArrayDevice03/multipath/SATA_LUN14 - path too long make_dev_physpath_alias: WARNING - Unable to alias multipath/SATA_LUN04 to enc@n5000ed572eeae5bd/type@0/slot@2/elmdesc@ArrayDevice01/multipath/SATA_LUN04 - path too long make_dev_physpath_alias: WARNING - Unable to alias multipath/SATA_LUN18 to enc@n5000ed572eea93bd/type@0/slot@4/elmdesc@ArrayDevice03/multipath/SATA_LUN18 - path too long make_dev_physpath_alias: WARNING - Unable to alias multipath/SATA_LUN15 to enc@n5000ed572a8548bd/type@0/slot@4/elmdesc@ArrayDevice03/multipath/SATA_LUN15 - path too long From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 00:04:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDBEA9B for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:04:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173671E98 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id m6so5355928wiv.13 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:04:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pfjk3LJGPWCChFHxyqbwOfZVF7s8OtBbMhkw5gZQXK4=; b=a5AleiSAuQqRMot13jRNO5hTxJ7bdiewreSChrrLkgetW8F+nqDe34HTTLYqMAK2Zp wRcPrQ1A1mo4cyhEHXKW+zLyJ0w37crQ3KZjcrO1bvwfcqlqq7V6wAZ4pWHfD1h6ur11 hJs69UNNuAZctRkh2QpimXX1SxA6NTeiM/Z4Yik+ZHoPFJvggknWNWFs8yJ5rAqZyZra BydnypWEvuzHKZbVk5HGYKqGPBToMz7+lyAMu/3AqTaPfEwTHoxQJMh7nW0fQJU2tC3x rUkzxaCQOVbsW6q2zuq8QkPsymv0Hm6zdVlI26CnviN4zFgruqIFE9/WpDAAy/hXbk9r vObw== X-Received: by 10.194.158.42 with SMTP id wr10mr57043792wjb.23.1366675450182; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q20sm12396070wiv.7.2013.04.22.17.04.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 01:04:07 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? Message-ID: <20130423010407.25a73c92@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:04:11 -0000 On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:25:30 -0400 Michael Powell wrote: > Most consider the answer to use WPA2, which I do use too. Many think > it is 'virtually' unbreakable, but this really is not true; it just > takes longer. I've done WPA2 keys in as little as 2-3 hours before. Are you saying that any WPA2 key can be cracked or or you simply referring to weak keys? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 07:22:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A310A36 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:22:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF34E1CDD for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3N7LsC9062886; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 08:21:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <51763692.8010805@qeng-ho.org> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 08:21:54 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130409 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: aimass@yabarana.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:22:03 -0000 On 04/22/13 21:49, Michael Powell wrote: > Alejandro Imass wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Michael Powell >> wrote: >>> Alejandro Imass wrote: >>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>> Really these WEP/WPA2 protocols are not providing the level of >>>>> protection that is truly necessary in this modern day. You can keep out >>>>> script kiddies and people who don't have skill, but people who know >>>>> what they are doing are only slowed down. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for the detailed explanation! So, are there ways to run a >>>> secure WiFi network? It would seem that in my case I have neighbours >>>> that know what they're doing so should I just forget about WiFi go >>>> back to UTP? >>>> >>> >>> We use 802.1x auth on our switch (and other hardwares) ports at work and >>> this utilizes a Radius server. At work we are mostly a $MS WinderZ shop, >>> but with Enterprise grade access points (we have Aruba's), EAP, and >>> Radius we >> [...] >>> >>> This email is already getting a trifle long, so suffice to say if you >>> really need the best security on a home ISP router the best you can do is >>> turn off the radio and use Ethernet and UTP. This returns to the original >>> focus of your question in that the firewall would be the point of >>> contention and not the cracking of WEP/WPA2 auth keys. What I was wanting >>> to point out to you originally is that changing the firewall is a >>> separate issue from the cracking of Wifi auth keys. >>> >> >> I absolutely got that but I was assuming that a pre-packaged WiFi >> router with pfSense or m0n0wall would have a more secure wireless >> hardware and software as well. Now I see the problem is more complex >> and that the wireless part is vulnerable regardless. So if by cracking >> the wireless part they can spoof the mac addresses of authorized >> equipment, what other methods could a BSD-based firewall use to >> prevent the cracker from penetrating or using the network beyond the >> WiFi layer? From your response it seems very little or nothing >> really... >> > Yes - unfortunately this is about the state of things. Not a whole lot > you're going to do to improve the consumer grade home router. There are some > hardware specific firmware projects that I've never played with such as: > > http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index > > The pre-packaged home equipment is relatively cheap when compared against > the top of the line enterprise-grade commercial products. Most are some form > of embedded Linux. For example, the MI424WR-Rev3 I have here is busybox ( > http://www.busybox.net/ ). If you turn on remote management and telnet into > it you get a busybox prompt! With a busybox shell and all busybox commands. > The firewall many of these embedded Linux things are using is iptables2, the > standard linux firewall package. > > What I was pondering is some form of L2TP tunnel, or some other form of > IPSEC tunnel to form some kind of VPN like communication between the client > and the wifi. Just never have begun to find the time to get anywhere with > the idea. But basically it would resemble a VPN that only accepts connection > from a tunnel endpoint client and not pass any traffic from any other client > lacking this VPN-like endpoint. I think such a thing is very possible and > have read some articles by people who have done very similar sounding > things. Indeed, this is what SSL-VPN providers do via a subscription service > so people surfing at open wifi coffee shops tunnel through the local open > wifi and setup an encrypted VPN tunnel. A quick note: pfSense (I don't know about m0n0wall) has OpenVPN built in to it. Depending on whether all devices which are going to connect wirelessly can run the client end of OpenVPN, this might be a quick way to get greater security on the WiFi side. > Just not enough time in the day. I know it's do-able, just never have found > the time to properly approach it. -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 10:04:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA2EABF for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D791450 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au (unknown [192.168.0.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F11D15C22 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:13:03 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <51765ADA.4040304@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:56:42 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130205 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Thunderbird MCD/Autoconfig - functions not working? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:04:56 -0000 Quick question guys - anyone using the autoconfig feature of Thunderbird out there? I might have to either create something or add something to something else that will actually do the same job otherwise. I decided to give it a go and see if it might save some work on deployment, but the getent function simply doesn't work. I've submitted a bug report due to lack of support from mozilla themselves, but I thought I might check if anyone might be using it with the current Thunderbird. To get it running I: created an all.js with the general.config entries under the defaults/pref directory. created a thunderbird.cfg under thunderbird lib directory with a url redirect to a server using getent to obtain the username. It is set to refresh every hour (atm). What I get: Thunderbird starts and asks for account setup. (or an error message if I set it) with the NSPR_LOG variables set I can see it failed to retrieve the config with a http error. the server logs indicate Thunderbird attempted to retrieve the file but failed to offer a user so the filename requested is incomplete. Given the rather interesting background of this feature it might simply be a case of wysiwyg- and lucky for that; but I thought I'd query the vast resources here JIC. Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 11:18:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1E7D4A for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald.van-nigtevecht@tele2.com) Received: from gw1-in.tele2.se (gw1-in.tele2.se [193.12.60.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0325917C3 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:18:57 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,533,1363129200"; d="scan'208";a="153148604" Received: from t2turing.t2srv.corp.tele2.com ([172.16.35.180]) by gw1-out.tele2.se with ESMTP; 23 Apr 2013 13:17:46 +0200 From: AMS_MDF_operations X-Disclaimed: 13982 To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Problem creating user account X-KeepSent: 0D053457:19A0C923-C1257B56:003D14BA; type=4; name=$KeepSent Message-ID: Sender: Ronald van Nigtevecht Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:17:47 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:18:59 -0000 LS, What is going ewrong? Problem : Creating user account -bash-2.05b$ uname -a FreeBSD us-syslog01.dcn.versatel.net 4.9-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p10 #1: Thu Jun 24 10:04:37 GMT 2004 root@syslog1.versatel.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SYSLOG i386 -bash-2.05b$ -bash-2.05b$ sudo adduser Use option ``-silent'' if you don't want to see all warnings and questions. Check /etc/shells Check /etc/master.passwd Check /etc/group Usernames must match regular expression: [Usernames must match regular expression]: Enter your default shell: bash csh date no sh tcsh [bash]: Your default shell is: bash -> /usr/local/bin/bash Enter your default HOME partition: [/home]: Copy dotfiles from: /usr/share/skel no [/usr/share/skel]: Send message from file: /etc/adduser.message no [no]: Do not send message Use passwords (y/n) [y]: Ok, let's go. Don't worry about mistakes. I will give you the chance later to correct any input. Enter username [Usernames must match regular expression]: l-ong Username doesn't match the regexp /Usernames must match regular expression/ For this message I deleted an existing user, and try to create this same user. Also this failed, see below p-vrij:*:1010:1010:Peter Vrij:/home/p-vrij:/usr/local/bin/bash -bash-2.05b$ sudo rmuser p-vrij Password: Matching password entry: Is this the entry you wish to remove? y Remove user's home directory (/home/p-vrij)? y Updating password file, updating databases, done. Updating group file: utbackup (removing group p-vrij -- personal group is empty) done. Removing user's home directory (/home/p-vrij): done. Removing files belonging to p-vrij from /tmp: done. Removing files belonging to p-vrij from /var/tmp: done. Removing files belonging to p-vrij from /var/tmp/vi.recover: done. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 13:10:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2517D8 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hskuhra@eumx.net) Received: from owm.eumx.net (eumx.net [91.82.101.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED72010F9 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:10:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=eumx.net; h=mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:references:message-id; s=default; bh=TeFGPcQj4eXYmE uKvQJwckfrJRI=; b=sNikzaTqW9YO4dCidCBCWAWKCUk9B/AZasaqUhu0wo7QY/ 7+TH9dg8mDb/gFoJY4rZ9sMFSBbngAYMcO8V9x5PQbuZqhdJywBofR5UdG3YoRjM vOzQ+D1pK5/WAqXKjh6o5NpHEwCKN9+y7mPPn2anm9C2+3ARlam2gFHg0e48M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=eumx.net; h=mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:date:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:references:message-id; q=dns; s=default; b=M0vQHj8+ 41sE0uEZKdzvlMqbte5ZU0OggXLJblo/mgBSUM9JlSjey7NjcQr4DGhqkelWzff9 YzqKBMEw4lxAjmo0BXjcxKtVC/kq9SWKrUzXsiYjagRo8pPGxmtkoptMXtilpMq4 TBDx3wuEVduL12yaL6YUUMW7msJiGA0aA3I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:37:52 +0200 From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: AMS_MDF_operations Subject: Re: Problem creating user account In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6dbb03c52c930d750627849dd7d9ba41@eumx.net> X-Sender: hskuhra@eumx.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:10:51 -0000 Den 23.04.2013 13:17, skrev AMS_MDF_operations: > LS, > What is going ewrong? > > Problem : Creating user account > > -bash-2.05b$ uname -a > FreeBSD us-syslog01.dcn.versatel.net 4.9-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD > 4.9-RELEASE-p10 #1: Thu Jun 24 10:04:37 GMT 2004 > root@syslog1.versatel.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SYSLOG i386 > -bash-2.05b$ This version of FreeBSD is 9 years old and long EOL'ed. Have you ever considered upgrading this machine? > -bash-2.05b$ sudo adduser > Use option ``-silent'' if you don't want to see all warnings and > questions. > > Check /etc/shells > Check /etc/master.passwd > Check /etc/group > Usernames must match regular expression: > [Usernames must match regular expression]: > Enter your default shell: bash csh date no sh tcsh [bash]: > Your default shell is: bash -> /usr/local/bin/bash > Enter your default HOME partition: [/home]: > Copy dotfiles from: /usr/share/skel no [/usr/share/skel]: > Send message from file: /etc/adduser.message no [no]: > Do not send message > Use passwords (y/n) [y]: > > Ok, let's go. > Don't worry about mistakes. I will give you the chance later to > correct > any input. > Enter username [Usernames must match regular expression]: l-ong > Username doesn't match the regexp /Usernames must match regular > expression/ > > > For this message I deleted an existing user, and try to create this > same > user. > Also this failed, see below I guess someone has modified /etc/adduser.conf or the adduser script after this user has been created. Have you checked? -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 14:10:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31B5B7 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DD4158F for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p57BCF55B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.188.245.91]) (authenticated bits=128) by flat.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3NE9xaO024819; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:10:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r3NEAxLT095894; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:10:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3NEAhi7003814; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:10:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201304231410.r3NEAhi7003814@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" Subject: Re: Problem creating user account From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:37:52 +0200." <6dbb03c52c930d750627849dd7d9ba41@eumx.net> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:10:43 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org, AMS_MDF_operations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:10:50 -0000 "Herbert J. Skuhra" wrote: > Den 23.04.2013 13:17, skrev AMS_MDF_operations: > > LS, > > What is going ewrong? > > > > Problem : Creating user account > > > > -bash-2.05b$ uname -a > > FreeBSD us-syslog01.dcn.versatel.net 4.9-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD > > 4.9-RELEASE-p10 #1: Thu Jun 24 10:04:37 GMT 2004 > > root@syslog1.versatel.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SYSLOG i386 > > -bash-2.05b$ > > This version of FreeBSD is 9 years old and long EOL'ed. > Have you ever considered upgrading this machine? Wow ! Actually I too still run some 4 (for reasons I won't distract this thread with) as well as other hosts on 9.1-RELEASE etc, but if AMS_MDF_operations@tele2.com needs to stay on 4, he/she should at least consider upgrading to 4.11-RELEASE for various bug fixes while staying on same feature set. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 14:12:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508C617B for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:12:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com (mail-ob0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5FC15B2 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id ef5so533282obb.22 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:12:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=RLUrnQ0vtJSmvpxfDhnJL+6PiOWqSljRDQNk51ZSfIo=; b=GeF/B6+7u+YT0W8tHgB+2Qa3bBNESYnM3Ryh/V8zA6EzJ/p4CPbYAXg5Wrnt/eBbPJ vMgUwHl2H7jPNLV6U+bUdIkmi9kXTFUVIOijeVCLshsal34snNU1RTACgcBVTCVvK/Zt smjH/DVOcS9QUyLVegGq7uu7sX7DXEr3ae+KdJRFENB31tRG1osvxdWl8yJ/DuLiMgIx Y5q1WI9GnkEsrCKL2EmzcPeCBgJ0J6NwZpecQy4vUBE8m+mfnoiS1b3mgsbfmDC3fFXg HJm+EYDmY8ECqT7NjN5kNaZHZGh8U4MRQVMHxpw3mHyE5eOqMAPu3gYXDK+DxbW/XOP9 Lmlw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.162.71 with SMTP id xy7mr12164279oeb.88.1366726366711; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.135.194 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 07:12:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201304231410.r3NEAhi7003814@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <6dbb03c52c930d750627849dd7d9ba41@eumx.net> <201304231410.r3NEAhi7003814@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:12:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problem creating user account From: Outback Dingo To: "Julian H. Stacey" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, "Herbert J. Skuhra" , AMS_MDF_operations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:12:47 -0000 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > "Herbert J. Skuhra" wrote: > > Den 23.04.2013 13:17, skrev AMS_MDF_operations: > > > LS, > > > What is going ewrong? > > > > > > Problem : Creating user account > > > > > > -bash-2.05b$ uname -a > > > FreeBSD us-syslog01.dcn.versatel.net 4.9-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD > > > 4.9-RELEASE-p10 #1: Thu Jun 24 10:04:37 GMT 2004 > > > root@syslog1.versatel.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SYSLOG i386 > > > -bash-2.05b$ > > > > This version of FreeBSD is 9 years old and long EOL'ed. > > Have you ever considered upgrading this machine? > > Wow ! Actually I too still run some 4 (for reasons > I won't distract this thread with) as well as other hosts on > 9.1-RELEASE etc, but if AMS_MDF_operations@tele2.com needs to stay > on 4, he/she should at least consider upgrading to 4.11-RELEASE for > various bug fixes while staying on same feature set. > > looking at the hostname, it simply appears to be a syslog server, so why upgrade it, if it aint broke dont fix it 4.X was rock solid stable and fast > Cheers, > Julian > -- > Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich > http://berklix.com > Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". > Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, > multipart/alternative. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 14:42:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78ECEC6A for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:42:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C951744 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p57BCF55B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.188.245.91]) (authenticated bits=128) by flat.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3NEfgTM024920; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:41:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r3NEgdXR096041; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:42:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3NEgICq047723; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:42:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201304231442.r3NEgICq047723@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Outback Dingo Subject: Re: Problem creating user account From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:12:46 EDT." Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:42:18 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org, "Herbert J. Skuhra" , AMS_MDF_operations X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:42:34 -0000 Outback Dingo wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > "Herbert J. Skuhra" wrote: > > > Den 23.04.2013 13:17, skrev AMS_MDF_operations: > > > > LS, > > > > What is going ewrong? > > > > > > > > Problem : Creating user account > > > > > > > > -bash-2.05b$ uname -a > > > > FreeBSD us-syslog01.dcn.versatel.net 4.9-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD > > > > 4.9-RELEASE-p10 #1: Thu Jun 24 10:04:37 GMT 2004 > > > > root@syslog1.versatel.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SYSLOG i386 > > > > -bash-2.05b$ > > > > > > This version of FreeBSD is 9 years old and long EOL'ed. > > > Have you ever considered upgrading this machine? > > > > Wow ! Actually I too still run some 4 (for reasons > > I won't distract this thread with) as well as other hosts on > > 9.1-RELEASE etc, but if AMS_MDF_operations@tele2.com needs to stay > > on 4, he/she should at least consider upgrading to 4.11-RELEASE for > > various bug fixes while staying on same feature set. > > > > > looking at the hostname, it simply appears to be a syslog server, so why > upgrade it, if it aint broke dont fix it > 4.X was rock solid stable and fast Yes, 4 was light on resources too, no bloated gcc make worlds thrashing on *insn*.c back then. But I still long ago upgraded all my 4.x to 4.11, just as I similarly raised sundry 6.* hosts to last minor number of 6.4. Raising to last minor numbers is generaly easy, reduces local version diversity, gets free bug fixes without the cost of problems from new features/ changes in new major numbers. Increases the chances someone out there is running the same major.minor combo, even if EOL'd. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. 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19:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2921A44 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UUipM-0006QN-Ld for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:24:32 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:24:32 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:24:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Flash? Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 38 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:24:43 -0000 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE on amd64. I have installed Flash according to the instructions in the handbook. When I do 'about:plugins' in Firefox, I get the following response: Shockwave Flash File: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Version: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 MIME Type Description Suffixes application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl When I go to: http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html it reports that Flash is installed, version 11.2.202.280, and I can see the red bouncing ball. When I go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8tSMKGbnW0 again it reports that Flash is installed correctly. When I go to: http://www.chemgapedia.de/vsengine/info/en/help/requirements/flash.html once again, both tests run perfectly. Yet when I go to youtube.com and click on a link, it says "The Adobe Flash Player is required for video playback. Get the latest Flash Player". What is wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 19:37:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A654FA9C for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out007b.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out007B.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2E41AA6 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:37:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.60]) by smtp-out007b.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:35:41 +0200 Received: from [85.182.24.76] ([85.182.24.76]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:35:22 +0200 Message-ID: <1366745721.699.18.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: Flash? From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:35:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Apr 2013 19:35:22.0406 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2112C60:01CE4059] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:37:37 -0000 On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 19:24 +0000, Walter Hurry wrote: > What is wrong? It's wrong to consume crap that needs proprietary software, that isn't available for *nix, resp. it's smarter to use an OS that fit to the individual needs of the user. FreeBSD and Linux aren't a good choice, if you want to consume such stuff. Current version is 11.7, http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html . But for *nix the last version is 11.2. "Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux." - http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ Regards, Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 19:37:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A86B2D for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EF51AAB for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id l13so6996378wie.1 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:37:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ImFj2OSVoDgzmDxYFqoZvT/69joMGeB9K/Lwxew3QJo=; b=nrikQRTyLlCeBzB9azVgCo7ehzAaNQkYB8mLjGDm4SFEXiJp8l+4cMqnPNSp4Zuscu E/NlbxB4alBmvKB6lmICdWMbWuCeFBUEKsdx6TmJ4xE7USojkKFz6Fzdve5vSxdp9Ahu pY+M5bHe0Z8g69r2jbVc7W0urSGKMg9E272Z5eWsdcOwq5lW3tq0I6QVMor4OMT41R5l cmh1NsXEySjzUk7IlU0+LYtH3nCgiRFIxDiyuyYyrcY1Ax5PLeJXq0MywGkV0yhkK2OH VpuBvQu+M5hczyI6rcnKT1Iy9EWsvri4opKyxbAmGML1cL1KwIRX+87IiMrRbJRZA63F yjRA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.83.199 with SMTP id s7mr39106123wiy.19.1366745869335; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.100.130 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.100.130 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:37:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:37:49 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Flash? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Walter Hurry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: User Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:37:50 -0000 El 23/04/2013 21:24, "Walter Hurry" escribi=F3: > > FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE on amd64. > > I have installed Flash according to the instructions in the handbook. > When I do 'about:plugins' in Firefox, I get the following response: > > Shockwave Flash > > File: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so > Version: > Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 > > MIME Type Description Suffixes > application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf > application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl > > When I go to: > > http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html > > it reports that Flash is installed, version 11.2.202.280, and I can see > the red bouncing ball. > > > When I go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DB8tSMKGbnW0 > > again it reports that Flash is installed correctly. > > When I go to: > > http://www.chemgapedia.de/vsengine/info/en/help/requirements/flash.html > > once again, both tests run perfectly. > > Yet when I go to youtube.com and click on a link, it says "The Adobe > Flash Player is required for video playback. Get the latest Flash Player"= . > > What is wrong? That's an issue with Firefox. Search the list. There is a setting you have to change in Firefox in order to avoid that problem. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 19:45:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE82118C for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out02.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out02.alice-dsl.net [88.44.60.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812481B05 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.59]) by smtp-out02.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:45:14 +0200 Received: from [85.182.24.76] ([85.182.24.76]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:45:10 +0200 Message-ID: <1366746310.699.22.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: Flash? From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:45:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Apr 2013 19:45:10.0965 (UTC) FILETIME=[10E02650:01CE405B] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:45:17 -0000 On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 21:37 +0200, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: > That's an issue with Firefox. Search the list. There is a setting you have > to change in Firefox in order to avoid that problem. Perhaps the answer is somewhere in the thread "[Solved] Youtube & Flash Videos broken?", but OTOH, Flash is outdated and that could be the issue too. I don't have Flash or Gnash installed, but Firefox (20.0.1 here) anyway plays many YouTube videos. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 19:58:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F60961D for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x230.google.com (mail-wi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D93F1BD4 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:58:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f176.google.com with SMTP id hj19so6576620wib.15 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:58:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=x6bHU4FGtZBZVJo70t7Yp9j25H10Pla0KIxeLNgJkIQ=; b=wxaPTPj4TTd7yV7dGC7g7ASyYYaGu/t3kQX3N/ksrcg4k8LKV3gfepeptE34R1L4m8 jbMCqomMq9tIC0POVnfMLW+o0iIMrfZvBm1tbv7UjdXrIvru6OdygfzZytanyvJXOZ3y kL/ke+7mfEN+xgv/mJzb9cbFBfj+2rxRvmGdyX3ck3+KLmm3VKqQh6Xe+4j0vslF07h1 CDRxVOPzfbpcLz99EvjdwwOGWhf/2eHQA73heaAUIqzrOnOiIAJdLCcDdxgxIDiEy8VD zU/vPRQkL66zKANu1cIooYX81lejuWPOtwwwVTvzFiQUTMb65K1RBrsNRhqafp4/sUbH rm4w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.83.199 with SMTP id s7mr39198704wiy.19.1366747107161; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.100.130 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.100.130 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 12:58:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1366746310.699.22.camel@archlinux> References: <1366746310.699.22.camel@archlinux> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:58:27 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Flash? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Ralf Mardorf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: User Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:58:29 -0000 El 23/04/2013 21:45, "Ralf Mardorf" escribi=F3= : > > > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 21:37 +0200, Fernando Apestegu=EDa wrote: > > That's an issue with Firefox. Search the list. There is a setting you have > > to change in Firefox in order to avoid that problem. > > Perhaps the answer is somewhere in the thread "[Solved] Youtube & Flash > Videos broken?", but OTOH, Flash is outdated and that could be the issue > too. Yep, that's the thread I was referring to. It worked for me. > > I don't have Flash or Gnash installed, but Firefox (20.0.1 here) anyway > plays many YouTube videos. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 20:08:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4F2851 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:08:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-da0-x231.google.com (mail-da0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF941C5A for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f49.google.com with SMTP id t11so503555daj.8 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:08:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=GIHC6zK/4xNh4W27ohTRH+8qRZT3pqrO1MOM5nh3Hr4=; b=AuUUYLHVjHtkqEh3+jnpCukc8pSeW+ofQ5ejC875rrgb1LChkM5NNgebWBiiLK6W4S Mzq0M11KEpEbWMiBK+8q2ahlN0QfwjnePBP9ZK2QgcHBlZzAIRsr9191vTsPLZUxYz2Y zBBflvi5uUKlyXEnnisbPwg1iKMMRSKgsSs+Ka8Om08qMV/86hIfi2v5uzMDzumZ+0OP QYkgH/qXcdr9iZ/gvQDk2Dxbms1+gSLjfBKZZlhZGv7W13LuhxWrgNgXX0dE+U7qM1l3 Lz+vdPHh8gpQZ1ABQJ1V0J9MDoBqSg+Yw6W4hsbRKM1E2gjhPaUAkf592oNMKlBcrxNn PGng== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.161.69 with SMTP id xq5mr32324960pab.136.1366747718791; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.235.3 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 13:08:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130423010407.25a73c92@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20130423010407.25a73c92@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:08:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? From: Alejandro Imass To: RW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmTVfOTH5cnKJGAe69L8kJ/ROfurTjTbiekK6XUdiFgLaW5ueubM203qCkXhO4BTwTUhMxa Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:08:39 -0000 On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:04 PM, RW wrote: > On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:25:30 -0400 > Michael Powell wrote: > > >> Most consider the answer to use WPA2, which I do use too. Many think >> it is 'virtually' unbreakable, but this really is not true; it just >> takes longer. I've done WPA2 keys in as little as 2-3 hours before. > > Are you saying that any WPA2 key can be cracked or or you simply > referring to weak keys? I would also like to specifically if it's for weak keys or are all WPA2 personal keys crackable by brute force. Also is WPA2 Enterprise as weak also. Could anyone expand on how weak is WPA2 and WPA2 Enterprise or is this related to weak PSKs only?? Thanks, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 23 20:17:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7476AF5 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:17:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E6A1CEB for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UUjep-0001Wj-Cb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:17:43 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:17:43 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:17:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: Flash? Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 20:17:46 -0000 On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 21:37:49 +0200, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: > El 23/04/2013 21:24, "Walter Hurry" escribió: >> >> FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE on amd64. >> >> I have installed Flash according to the instructions in the handbook. >> When I do 'about:plugins' in Firefox, I get the following response: >> >> Shockwave Flash >> >> File: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so Version: >> Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 >> >> MIME Type Description Suffixes >> application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf >> application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl >> >> When I go to: >> >> http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html >> >> it reports that Flash is installed, version 11.2.202.280, and I can see >> the red bouncing ball. >> >> >> When I go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8tSMKGbnW0 >> >> again it reports that Flash is installed correctly. >> >> When I go to: >> >> http://www.chemgapedia.de/vsengine/info/en/help/requirements/flash.html >> >> once again, both tests run perfectly. >> >> Yet when I go to youtube.com and click on a link, it says "The Adobe >> Flash Player is required for video playback. Get the latest Flash >> Player". >> >> What is wrong? > > That's an issue with Firefox. Search the list. There is a setting you > have to change in Firefox in order to avoid that problem. > That did the trick, thanks. The PR is 177404. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 06:49:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FE2FE7 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 06:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam.gh1986@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x236.google.com (mail-la0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E6C120B for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 06:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id es20so1272193lab.27 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:49:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YZN0udKejWjqQVffhtXQFFjes224ui4qqY8/9S7+p5s=; b=qf5InQp96+oTpSj2NTBlU5u7CNY/v/0jqm26b53R3qZgN3h0SNmRGHUJZxT/+L4C58 2V/4XCc/ZHRanvJoFZZYfxZN27hk9C+/ds3ptKwizaZEpEsfRsCItPrlkRiWY56mfb19 F15lHxekJ4XcSiLLcV9mUmHDZ8vznYy1RvTydiVGUU3a8qHkUt8b7QMSg8iSvkmYGFd4 kyVfEmwKY4DRZVGk45xJSVtUGJZSqzYmCocb2xt6KB176fd303t+3iQrmd5WVvj/zslS xwqk67k57vNXh91KpZVnQs+4Xr3tUahW4u7V8gNMXrl+TaptDlye+v1Zk0LGw42ikHSP bivA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.162.40 with SMTP id xx8mr16946589lbb.30.1366786148331; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.163.130 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:19:08 +0430 Message-ID: Subject: restore /usr dump on two hard disk parallel y From: s m To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 06:49:09 -0000 hello guys i'm trying to restore DUMP file for partition /usr on tow hard disk parallel y. these two hard are connected to my system (i have freebsd8.2). i use restore command and it uses /tmp directory to restore dump. in restoring dump process, two hard disks try to use /tmp directory of my system. therefore conflict happened and restore command return error. i try to use TMPDIR and define another tmp directory for one of my hard disk but it does not identify it and use my system tmp directory yet. please let me know if using TMPDIR is a good idea and how i can use it. if not, how i can restore /usr dump file on two hard disk parallel y? thanks in advance sam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 08:19:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B934273 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A83158C for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r3O8JbkH005914 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:19:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:18:59 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130321 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions FreeBSD Subject: Diskless question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:19:46 -0000 Hello list! I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 08:40:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E068507 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net [88.44.60.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81CC165F for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.59]) by smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:36:48 +0200 Received: from [85.182.24.76] ([85.182.24.76]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:36:33 +0200 Message-ID: <1366792593.699.111.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: Diskless question From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:36:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Apr 2013 08:36:33.0570 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3753820:01CE40C6] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:40:49 -0000 On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 10:18 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log > in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that > issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. Do you want to start a X session as root? ~/.xinitrc? Or are you missing a root account and you even can't log in without X? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 10:23:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FC3EC3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:23:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F3A1C44 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UUwgy-0002lA-QE; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:12:48 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UUwh5-000BDN-HY; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:12:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:12:55 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Diskless question Message-Id: <20130424111255.eebe46907bba48917042007e@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) Cc: questions FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:23:08 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:18:59 +0200 Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list! > > I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log > in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that > issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. Are you logging in on the console or by ssh ? By default ssh does not allow root login, it can be enabled but you should read up on the security implications carefully before enabling it. I would expect console login to work fine. As a general rule it is better to use sudo or su rather than logging in as root, although for a single user system this doesn't really make much difference. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 10:30:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE521B2 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:30:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439AD1CCD for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3OAUKEd066571; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:30:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:30:20 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130409 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:30:29 -0000 On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Hello list! > > I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log > in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that > issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 10:50:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D77B56E for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030491D97 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r3OAnxM9009197; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:50:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <5177B8B1.1060302@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:49:21 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130321 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <1366792593.699.111.camel@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <1366792593.699.111.camel@archlinux> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:50:05 -0000 2013-04-24 10:36, Ralf Mardorf skrev: > > On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 10:18 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log >> in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that >> issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. > > Do you want to start a X session as root? No. > ~/.xinitrc? > > Or are you missing a root account and you even can't log in without X? No X, only cli. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 10:52:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E2670F for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C222A1DBD for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:52:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r3OAqpx8009255; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:52:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <5177B95D.3060001@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:52:13 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130321 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <20130424111255.eebe46907bba48917042007e@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20130424111255.eebe46907bba48917042007e@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:52:55 -0000 2013-04-24 12:12, Steve O'Hara-Smith skrev: > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:18:59 +0200 > Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> Hello list! >> >> I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log >> in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that >> issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. > > Are you logging in on the console or by ssh ? By default ssh does > not allow root login, it can be enabled but you should read up on the > security implications carefully before enabling it. I would expect console > login to work fine. I'm trying to login as root on the diskless machine. Console. > As a general rule it is better to use sudo or su rather than > logging in as root, although for a single user system this doesn't really > make much difference. > su does not "work" it sayes sorry. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 10:55:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34248A2 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:55:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D741DDF for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r3OAtksc009316; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:55:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:55:08 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130321 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:55:49 -0000 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: > On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> Hello list! >> >> I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log >> in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that >> issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. > > How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? $su Sorry root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 11:00:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDFA998 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net [88.44.60.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63DF1E1C for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.59]) by smtp-out01.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:00:27 +0200 Received: from [85.182.24.76] ([85.182.24.76]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:00:17 +0200 Message-ID: <1366801217.699.147.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: Diskless question From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:00:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5177B95D.3060001@bananmonarki.se> References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <20130424111255.eebe46907bba48917042007e@sohara.org> <5177B95D.3060001@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Apr 2013 11:00:18.0257 (UTC) FILETIME=[E82C0410:01CE40DA] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:00:29 -0000 On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 12:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > su does not "work" it sayes sorry. polkit:*:562:root,$USER From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 11:06:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6399AA0 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:06:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out007b.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out007B.alice-dsl.net [88.44.63.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2E71E56 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.60]) by smtp-out007b.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:04:51 +0200 Received: from [85.182.24.76] ([85.182.24.76]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:04:33 +0200 Message-ID: <1366801472.699.150.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: Diskless question From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:04:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5177B95D.3060001@bananmonarki.se> References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <20130424111255.eebe46907bba48917042007e@sohara.org> <5177B95D.3060001@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Apr 2013 11:04:33.0914 (UTC) FILETIME=[808E2DA0:01CE40DB] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:06:07 -0000 On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 12:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > su does not "work" it sayes sorry. Is the user in a group that does fulfil special permissions? Regarding to Google results, the group for FreeBSD is "wheel". From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 11:21:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDF9E33 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA3E1F2A for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3OBLfLQ066679; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:21:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <5177C045.1070900@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:21:41 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130409 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:21:44 -0000 On 04/24/13 11:55, Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: >> On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> Hello list! >>> >>> I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log >>> in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that >>> issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. >> >> How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? > > $su > Sorry > > root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh That's not logging in directly as root, that's using su as a normal user. Only members of wheel group can use su. Try logging in directly on the console as root. That should work unless you've marked the console as insecure or have an "impossible" password in /etc/master.passwd. In the long run you need to add your normal user to wheel group so you can use su. Can you edit the diskless machine's /etc/group from the server that's supplying its disk(s)? In the days when I ran diskless systems I usually found it easier to work on the diskless systems' config files via the server. -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 11:26:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E55872 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorrasg@yahoo.es) Received: from nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92F041F69 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:26:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.231] by nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2013 11:25:59 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.105] by tm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2013 11:25:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp121.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2013 11:25:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.es; s=s1024; t=1366802759; bh=srLoJFmWLspeAq0VTFFvr4RT+g03bKokvBxIL4A2Kb4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Disposition-Notification-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RWPwnBXeyYBfH0HeTa0lsKf7B/DL2hdj3g+mBzSOnUqclR8/cyOr1sXtOJdJtR9IzmxikNoSxWeXNci/XEQaccGbfND5M7O08fC1BN/Ar+sCYfSA0RR3LKT9vpkbVzhrzWHqt25xZAqQOF7/YiqHpOyq6raKpcRxpLh1cP/6F4E= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 793382.806.bm@smtp121.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: eN71C.UVM1nXSs40dfN5Mepx6mIScrSSvLCkoskgY2ctupP Ch0t95Hgyk3oRl_lbasvvp15e.ME8SIrn35i27Y8m1sAjJwUYbj71y4zKFlI RTP30s2XBnaRzGVOh5.eBHg9UOdGeGXtN9dbmfhAcR9XWraAdj89klCCaFfy ElkoDzb6Q_jNkf.DRpoPS6ZbqQIZYJNxgi.2GYELMeWG7EmNg1PSEC966tQp Y5k2kgRX9c13Se11kVCYl1TGFdrWTpYLlWfl26cAhAA3tzdwmjiU..Ke3Y8u 0ghTVrXsTZNMO9NlBR4v4g0ljW4sHWFlxGh48m3UJiup2PmrqksmykQLH5Xt GdVklo8f0SMajJWfiCMlconSoYDuOwv6oS1pRayFIbsZRAIxr06yrzFkUbyB EMqiD0pDs044- X-Yahoo-SMTP: mX392iiswBAeJNdO_s.EW62LZDJR X-Rocket-Received: from camibar.emorras.eu (emorrasg@85.219.45.167 with plain) by smtp121.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2013 04:25:59 -0700 PDT Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:25:59 +0200 From: Eduardo Morras To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Diskless question Message-Id: <20130424132559.06a55111d6185fbafc86e4ca@yahoo.es> In-Reply-To: <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:26:08 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:55:08 +0200 Bernt Hansson wrote: > 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: > > On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> Hello list! > >> > >> I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log > >> in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that > >> issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. > > > > How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? > > $su > Sorry Some shoots in the dark, shield your feet. a)$su - b)exist /root ? c)can you boot in single user mode ? d)exist /bin/csh ? > root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh --- --- Eduardo Morras From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 12:16:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB661D65 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:16:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F70118B for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8AA33C3C; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 5E83039860; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:16:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: s m Subject: Re: restore /usr dump on two hard disk parallel y References: Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:16:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: (s. m.'s message of "Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:19:08 +0430") Message-ID: <44vc7cw2d8.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:16:16 -0000 s m writes: > i'm trying to restore DUMP file for partition /usr on tow hard disk > parallel y. these two hard are connected to my system (i have freebsd8.2). > i use restore command and it uses /tmp directory to restore dump. in > restoring dump process, two hard disks try to use /tmp directory of my > system. therefore conflict happened and restore command return error. > i try to use TMPDIR and define another tmp directory for one of my hard > disk but it does not identify it and use my system tmp directory yet. > please let me know if using TMPDIR is a good idea and how i can use it. if > not, how i can restore /usr dump file on two hard disk parallel y? What do you want to do exactly? Do you want both disks together to be your new /usr/partition? In that case, you want to set up some kind of RAID system with the two disks. Start with the GEOM section in the handbook. Do you want to end up with two partitions, each holding part of what the /usr backup contains? If that's what you're after, then the best approach is probably to pick one subdirectory of /usr (/usr/local would be an obvious choice) and restore everything *but* that to one of your disks, then mount the other disk on the subdirectory and restore the rest onto there. If your problem is just that the two restore operations are stepping on each other's temporary files, then TMPDIR *should* take care of that. You could show us more detail of how you run the restore operations, or just run them one at a time instead of in parallel. I hope that helps. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 12:45:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64E6535 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:45:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1FF12C9 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r3OCjnZR011839; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:45:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <5177D3D7.7050905@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:45:11 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130321 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> <5177C045.1070900@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <5177C045.1070900@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:45:53 -0000 2013-04-24 13:21, Arthur Chance skrev: > On 04/24/13 11:55, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: >>> On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>> Hello list! >>>> >>>> I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can >>>> log >>>> in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that >>>> issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. >>> >>> How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? >> >> $su >> Sorry >> >> root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh > > > That's not logging in directly as root, that's using su as a normal > user. Only members of wheel group can use su. Try logging in directly on > the console as root. That should work unless you've marked the console > as insecure or have an "impossible" password in /etc/master.passwd. I am a member of the wheel group. > In the long run you need to add your normal user to wheel group so you > can use su. Can you edit the diskless machine's /etc/group from the > server that's supplying its disk(s)? In the days when I ran diskless > systems I usually found it easier to work on the diskless systems' > config files via the server. > I have tried and my own password is easily changed via the server. if i try, on the diskless, Login: root Password: password or none Login incorrect From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 12:46:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1DB5DF for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B1A12E2 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r3OCksGC011864; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:46:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <5177D418.5030208@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:46:16 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130321 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ralf Mardorf Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <20130424111255.eebe46907bba48917042007e@sohara.org> <5177B95D.3060001@bananmonarki.se> <1366801472.699.150.camel@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <1366801472.699.150.camel@archlinux> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:46:58 -0000 2013-04-24 13:04, Ralf Mardorf skrev: > On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 12:52 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> su does not "work" it sayes sorry. > > Is the user in a group that does fulfil special permissions? Regarding > to Google results, the group for FreeBSD is "wheel". Yes the user is in the wheel group. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 13:07:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABB0FF for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F0F13CC for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FA333C2A; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 382D439879; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:07:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:07:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> (Bernt Hansson's message of "Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:55:08 +0200") Message-ID: <44mwsow000.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: questions FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: questions FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:07:19 -0000 Bernt Hansson writes: > 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: >> On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> Hello list! >>> >>> I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log >>> in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that >>> issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. >> >> How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? > > $su > Sorry > > root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh ^ / \ Root has no valid password. You'll need to go into single-user mode and either give it one or install sudo and add your regular user to the sudoers file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 13:27:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC7F8FB for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no (smtp.fagskolen.gjovik.no [IPv6:2001:700:1100:1:200:ff:fe00:b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE3F150D for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.fig.ol.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r3ODRI3D006889 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:27:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by mail.fig.ol.no (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r3ODRI2B006886; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:27:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@fagskolen.gjovik.no) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.fig.ol.no: trond owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:27:18 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= Sender: Trond.Endrestol@fagskolen.gjovik.no To: questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Diskless question In-Reply-To: <44mwsow000.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Message-ID: References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> <44mwsow000.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Organization: Fagskolen Innlandet OpenPGP: url=http://fig.ol.no/~trond/trond.key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2055831798-1109238043-1366810038=:9964" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mail.fig.ol.no Cc: Bernt Hansson X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:27:23 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2055831798-1109238043-1366810038=:9964 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:07-0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Bernt Hansson writes: > > > 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: > >> On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >>> Hello list! > >>> > >>> I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log > >>> in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that > >>> issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. > >> > >> How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? > > > > $su > > Sorry > > > > root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh > ^ > / \ > > Root has no valid password. > > You'll need to go into single-user mode and either give it one or > install sudo and add your regular user to the sudoers file. Why look at the /etc/passwd file when the key files are: * /etc/master.passwd * /etc/spwd.db * /etc/passwd * /etc/pwd.db -- +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +-------------------------------+------------------------------------+ --2055831798-1109238043-1366810038=:9964-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 13:39:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57762EB7 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA38015C2 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3ODcxU1066956; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:38:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <5177E073.5040308@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:38:59 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130409 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> <44mwsow000.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44mwsow000.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lowell Gilbert , Bernt Hansson X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:39:04 -0000 On 04/24/13 14:07, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Bernt Hansson writes: > >> 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: >>> On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>> Hello list! >>>> >>>> I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log >>>> in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that >>>> issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. >>> >>> How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? >> >> $su >> Sorry >> >> root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh > ^ > / \ > > Root has no valid password. > > You'll need to go into single-user mode and either give it one or > install sudo and add your regular user to the sudoers file. No, that's from /etc/passwd which never shows any real password information. The true password field is in /etc/master.passwd and I'm not going to ask anyone to show that here. However, the OP should check it's got a valid looking field value rather than just a '*' -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 13:40:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785A9F5D for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:40:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5289215DB for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F9833C3C; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:40:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 1B50239879; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:40:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> <44mwsow000.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <5177E073.5040308@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 09:40:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <5177E073.5040308@qeng-ho.org> (Arthur Chance's message of "Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:38:59 +0100") Message-ID: <44ip3cvygf.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: questions FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:40:40 -0000 Arthur Chance writes: > On 04/24/13 14:07, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > No, that's from /etc/passwd which never shows any real password > information. The true password field is in /etc/master.passwd and I'm > not going to ask anyone to show that here. However, the OP should > check it's got a valid looking field value rather than just a '*' Oops. Right. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 13:51:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B7F420 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531061662 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:51:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r3ODpkak013309; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:51:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <5177E34C.3020908@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:51:08 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130321 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions FreeBSD Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> <44mwsow000.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44mwsow000.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lowell Gilbert X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:51:51 -0000 2013-04-24 15:07, Lowell Gilbert skrev: > Bernt Hansson writes: > >> 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: >>> On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>> Hello list! >>>> >>>> I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can log >>>> in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that >>>> issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said no. >>> >>> How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? >> >> $su >> Sorry >> >> root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh > ^ > / \ > > Root has no valid password. Well. The user can login, root can not. > You'll need to go into single-user mode and either give it one or > install sudo and add your regular user to the sudoers file. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 13:52:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5BC4B2 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:52:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Received: from blue.qeng-ho.org (blue.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41613166B for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fileserver.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3ODq9UX066990; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:52:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <5177E389.3030307@qeng-ho.org> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:52:09 +0100 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130409 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> <5177C045.1070900@qeng-ho.org> <5177D3D7.7050905@bananmonarki.se> In-Reply-To: <5177D3D7.7050905@bananmonarki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:52:12 -0000 On 04/24/13 13:45, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > 2013-04-24 13:21, Arthur Chance skrev: >> On 04/24/13 11:55, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skrev: >>>> On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>>> Hello list! >>>>> >>>>> I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a user can >>>>> log >>>>> in, but when I try to log in as root it won't work. How to resolv that >>>>> issue. I have tried with and without password but the computer said >>>>> no. >>>> >>>> How did it say no? What does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say? >>> >>> $su >>> Sorry >>> >>> root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh >> >> >> That's not logging in directly as root, that's using su as a normal >> user. Only members of wheel group can use su. Try logging in directly on >> the console as root. That should work unless you've marked the console >> as insecure or have an "impossible" password in /etc/master.passwd. > > I am a member of the wheel group. Curious, I would have expected the su to work. Time for a quick look at the source. >> In the long run you need to add your normal user to wheel group so you >> can use su. Can you edit the diskless machine's /etc/group from the >> server that's supplying its disk(s)? In the days when I ran diskless >> systems I usually found it easier to work on the diskless systems' >> config files via the server. >> > I have tried and my own password is easily changed via the server. > > if i try, on the diskless, > > Login: root > Password: password or none > > Login incorrect As I mentioned in another post, have you got a valid looking password field in /etc/master.passwd or just a '*'? Valid fields tend to look something like $2a$04$ or $6$ where is a lot of base64 encoded data. Looking in the source for su there are three places that generate "Sorry". They all send messages to syslog. Is there a "BAD SU" entry in your /var/log/auth.log or a PAM related error in /var/log/messages and/or on the console? -- In the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a new race of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they were cruel and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar. _Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 13:56:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5344717 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EE716A1 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kw.news4all.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r3ODu9KG013400; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:56:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bah@bananmonarki.se) Message-ID: <5177E454.3020609@bananmonarki.se> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:55:32 +0200 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130321 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lowell Gilbert Subject: Re: Diskless question References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> <44mwsow000.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <5177E073.5040308@qeng-ho.org> <44ip3cvygf.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44ip3cvygf.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:56:18 -0000 2013-04-24 15:40, Lowell Gilbert skrev: > Arthur Chance writes: > >> On 04/24/13 14:07, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >> >> No, that's from /etc/passwd which never shows any real password >> information. The true password field is in /etc/master.passwd and I'm >> not going to ask anyone to show that here. However, the OP should >> check it's got a valid looking field value rather than just a '*' > > Oops. Right. > > Ok this is master.password for root root:"a lot of tokens".:0:0::0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 15:53:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1304D5C for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:53:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd8@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15151D23 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.0.10.1] ([173.88.202.176]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:53:08 -0700 Message-ID: <5177FFE2.10009@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 11:53:06 -0400 From: Joe User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Stop ifconfig high intensity message from master console Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Apr 2013 15:53:09.0037 (UTC) FILETIME=[D12C45D0:01CE4103] X-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-Authenticated-Sender: fbsd8@a1poweruser.com X-EchoSenderHash: [fbsd8]-[a1poweruser*com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:53:07 -0000 When I do a ifconfig bridge create or ifconfig epair create commands I get some high intensity messages on the hosts F1 session master console. I would like to suppress these messages. Is there any way to do that? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 16:01:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD8EE8B for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23231D70 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UV27z-0004PE-PC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:01:03 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:01:03 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:01:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: FreeBSD-update? Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 17 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:01:05 -0000 When I issue 'freebsd-update fetch install I see this: ---------------------------------------- Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-RELEASE from update5.freebsd.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 9.1-RELEASE-p2. No updates are available to install. ---------------------------------------- So if 'No updates (are) needed to update system to 9.1-RELEASE-p2', how do I actually update to 9.1-RELEASE-p2? $ uname -r 9.1-RELEASE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 16:05:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2578FAD for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC9C1DAF for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-80-247.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.80.247]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F34327C58; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:04:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r3OG545Z002015; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:05:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:05:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Message-Id: <20130424180504.c5d0dc1d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:05:02 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:00:47 +0000 (UTC), Walter Hurry wrote: > When I issue 'freebsd-update fetch install I see this: > ---------------------------------------- > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-RELEASE from update5.freebsd.org... > done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. > > No updates needed to update system to 9.1-RELEASE-p2. > No updates are available to install. > ---------------------------------------- > So if 'No updates (are) needed to update system to 9.1-RELEASE-p2', > how do I actually update to 9.1-RELEASE-p2? > > $ uname -r > 9.1-RELEASE The kernel's version message will only change if the _kernel_ has been receiving changes. So, for example, if you update from 9.1 to 9.1-p2, and _no_ change has been written to the kernel, it will still report 9.1, even though the updates for -p2 have been applied to other places (like system binaries or libraries). You can use the -r option to freebsd-update to explicitely specify a version to update to. See "man freebsd-update" for details. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 16:27:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0889E89 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10FD1EE4 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:27:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UV2XK-0005QC-Vt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:27:14 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:27:14 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:27:14 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:27:01 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <20130424180504.c5d0dc1d.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:27:17 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:05:04 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > The kernel's version message will only change if the _kernel_ has been > receiving changes. So, for example, if you update from 9.1 to 9.1-p2, > and _no_ change has been written to the kernel, it will still report > 9.1, even though the updates for -p2 have been applied to other places > (like system binaries or libraries). > > You can use the -r option to freebsd-update to explicitely specify a > version to update to. See "man freebsd-update" for details. Thanks for the reply, but I'm still confused. -------------------------------------- # freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RELEASE-p2 Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-RELEASE from update5.freebsd.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: kernel/generic src/src world/base world/lib32 The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed: world/doc world/games Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-RELEASE-p2 from update5.freebsd.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-RELEASE-p2 from update4.freebsd.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-RELEASE-p2 from update3.freebsd.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up -------------------------------------- Where am I going wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 17:35:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC3AD04 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axelbsd@ymail.com) Received: from nm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.176.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B3A4125D for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.137.12.55] by nm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2013 17:35:03 -0000 Received: from [98.136.185.47] by tm15.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2013 17:35:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2013 17:35:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s1024; t=1366824903; bh=Jw6tEPxsysNNGbCW8hndpdVXvZVAsYqUd7MisXTCuUY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Received:X-Google-DKIM-Signature:MIME-Version:X-Received:Received:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Content-Type; b=EIEOWL9nzj2LD4+t2dK5N2ewuYV1QDNdyB77ZpjQmFX6w9RiXe+8UW0TNI6MTnsOSHEfJMdCrBO56kdkDD8yfVX++WUwNdB+C8si1YMU6Uff8pANYwhMJb0S5ew/wzW1oTduVu0yRApKZtBcACs54fkIH2xM6/7L6IpXatM1XuU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 7236.99202.bm@smtp108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: swdo4fsVM1nbw38sgc4uAXb48zw_1EQqCxCifhuO2maWd1A 5G6YYosQ2FSQkkQPmr9J7_LFQhhY8Rv_5yDDQ5C.a_2lf0lnZtqpVZuKREV6 i7PJZWgpURtyMXhsrqBvaGzaOvMrtGTPKCXWkAmz9hzHWd38NkjNlm5r19tE KHeH4ok4AmFp6uad254TxEd2zJwCX6iRn90xWBqWXdUGIXEWPgaJ7A56UNIO oKIV1xLcOLGIbh9_MQDKpQl_T663aadFENdmDKJvO_TkvlKqRElpNtfwMNdx ZGsbrpbi5ezaEnmbUyW0D1obZdKyPl6vaeFwUesRGzsWT0ifkZNjjNxl9W25 yPDu3Mk0TzcEB9B0m7NORip6sBBcP89iaIkBksds4AJc3NpR.fWcMMoSPOAe zOwUEaQtNTdROP9ds0L_XdNMmBA9cZIIH4H4lfDh33tjFcdbXYBRMOGIKKSA FRGQ6HGkP3SIiuG4lIogjE0jfQ6wizihdGKy.2y99K66SU6iac3S1Xg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: S65s63SswBDjU54Gjqw2GSWlZmfgiEU_X3tN1_9u X-Rocket-Received: from mail-vb0-f42.google.com (axelbsd@209.85.212.42 with plain) by smtp108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2013 10:35:02 -0700 PDT Received: by mail-vb0-f42.google.com with SMTP id p12so1926350vbe.15 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:35:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Jw6tEPxsysNNGbCW8hndpdVXvZVAsYqUd7MisXTCuUY=; b=lwVR6foqQhTKJ6hRvKjqP15Gn2bj92iOB93BdcUSw8WZFi6tZ6D5lAR55MwXcJDjah he3KE9YO9qezZ+satBm08vKskGVM54hXcNUtouu5SK9wNhth8VrzjJB0WFSt+ukXQQgJ sqivuP8HqsDlYL6mDiSZksJYYOb18/Bxk7haz0AgF4vkJvb3y9OdizyASpqIBTZCwCCh rYDTGZbPO52vG2n677xe31+4Ge67GdVdTIDJcwdALnVWDOrf5yoYAQ3pQV4gcheHLcPg vIq1M71LYG18NOaG0UEBFfCsHvWIEl7cdJZWg2CeIdDID1+nl7jY5L8LIHuicTDpIfnJ jecQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.93.233 with SMTP id cx9mr4823880vdb.112.1366824901987; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.146.6 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:35:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20130424180504.c5d0dc1d.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:35:01 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? From: Alexandre To: Walter Hurry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:35:09 -0000 On Wednesday, April 24, 2013, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:05:04 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > > The kernel's version message will only change if the _kernel_ has been > > receiving changes. So, for example, if you update from 9.1 to 9.1-p2, > > and _no_ change has been written to the kernel, it will still report > > 9.1, even though the updates for -p2 have been applied to other places > > (like system binaries or libraries). > > > > You can use the -r option to freebsd-update to explicitely specify a > > version to update to. See "man freebsd-update" for details. > > Thanks for the reply, but I'm still confused. > -------------------------------------- > # freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.1-RELEASE-p2 > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-RELEASE from update5.freebsd.org... > done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > > The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: > kernel/generic src/src world/base world/lib32 > > The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed: > world/doc world/games > > Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y > > Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-RELEASE-p2 from > update5.freebsd.org... failed. > Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-RELEASE-p2 from > update4.freebsd.org... failed. > Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-RELEASE-p2 from > update3.freebsd.org... failed. > No mirrors remaining, giving up > -------------------------------------- > > Where am I going wrong? > > > > Hi Walter, Freebsd-update tool apply binary patches to your -RELEASE system and GENERIC kernel. Furthermore, sources are synced too (/usr/src) by default. If you want to see the -p# increased, you have to recompile your GENERIC kernel. If you are using a custom kernel, you must recompile it to apply patches as your sources are up-to-date. You will have the -p# increased too. Kind regards, Alexandre From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 19:34:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DEFEA9 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4D41935 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UV5SS-0006J2-FL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:34:24 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UV5SZ-000E2a-0E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:34:31 +0000 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:34:30 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Message-Id: <20130424203430.e127c9a56fe88f968eed6ad5@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:34:35 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Walter Hurry wrote: > When I issue 'freebsd-update fetch install I see this: > ---------------------------------------- > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. > Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-RELEASE from update5.freebsd.org... > done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. > > No updates needed to update system to 9.1-RELEASE-p2. > No updates are available to install. > ---------------------------------------- > So if 'No updates (are) needed to update system to 9.1-RELEASE-p2', > how do I actually update to 9.1-RELEASE-p2? > > $ uname -r > 9.1-RELEASE You have updated to 9.1-RELEASE-p2 - but since there have been no kernel changes since 9.1-RELEASE the kernel version message hasn't changed. This could very reasonably be regarded as bug in the update/version reporting process but I wouldn't hold my breath for a fix, as things stand the version reported only changes when the kernel is updated, or if you recompile it after the update. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 19:51:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90068FE for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound1.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7434C1AF8 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3OJpXqV019249 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:51:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <517837C5.50605@ifdnrg.com> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:51:33 +0100 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Subject: gettext-0.18.1.1 issues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:51:41 -0000 Hi, I have two boxes exhibiting issues with (updates or rebuilds to) gettext-0.18.1.1, (which obv affects lots of stuff) i had originally thought this was a problem with the port on jails on each box, but actually even each host won't rebuild this port. Both are amd64 and have recently been updated to 9.1-REL, but i have other boxes on 9.1-REL that are not showing same behavior. Rebuilds of gettext on hosts stop with: ./localename.c: In function '_nl_locale_name_thread_unsafe': ./localename.c:2607: error: 'locale_t' undeclared (first use in this function) ./localename.c:2607: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ./localename.c:2607: error: for each function it appears in.) ./localename.c:2607: error: expected ';' before 'thread_locale' ./localename.c:2608: error: 'thread_locale' undeclared (first use in this function) ./localename.c:2608: error: 'LC_GLOBAL_LOCALE' undeclared (first use in this function) *** Error code 1 There is a sed error earlier in the make process, but that seems to also be there on boxes that will rebuild gettext. After trying everything i know to fix this (including copying localename.c from working boxes) , i deinstalled the port on one box, but it won't clean install after that , this has led to various problems with anything linked to gettext, like bash etc. Help! thanks Paul. -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07970339546 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ---------------------------------------------------- High Specification Dedicated Servers from £100.00pm ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 19:52:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4786A9F5 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from new1-smtp.messagingengine.com (new1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAC91B14 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECC51C26; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:52:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; h= content-type:to:subject:references:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to; s= mesmtp; bh=DsPm58mn/AVrnkJNbUbcqVTYuwY=; b=C5HwRGjpStBanw10yhLv0 Fftoq+rqABqR6uWro5moj1mhtVbeSSP4TsLaKHcXoISuGQl+pIm6XHBGtA67dJOg gKIS8yJTpmjsXah+CnebEaoATSEgWbfUJ3FU7mla/iBY3J9bpyaVH36YEM1mfYg6 pNa6JJXcMSYxxOPlvjnwjA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:to:subject:references:date :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id :in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=DsPm58mn/AVrnkJNbUbcqVTYuwY=; b=n0Vl 0XcwZvBL9+bAjvlWjle9lwNHkqhB3IxWP8xGWLAcd6Qo3THDfINMxBj0QjXAjZez 9ID2X8gMSJ+tXkGuMMOkvbhtIVe3bgzW+ysC0MunfPZ+fO+pJTTJQb8JJnoG4sfE fu+bzEFF0IqBAgIhkScacrOjm+MYOGGm2nYYouA= X-Sasl-enc: dkUIWSbCyO3KpacXLLvHT5Jy/sIxaadv4fRj1PMgKGcN 1366833138 Received: from tech304.office.supranet.net (unknown [66.170.8.18]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4BE07C8000D; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? References: <20130424203430.e127c9a56fe88f968eed6ad5@sohara.org> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:52:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark Felder" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130424203430.e127c9a56fe88f968eed6ad5@sohara.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:52:25 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:34:30 -0500, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > You have updated to 9.1-RELEASE-p2 - but since there have been no > kernel changes since 9.1-RELEASE the kernel version message hasn't > changed. > This could very reasonably be regarded as bug in the update/version > reporting process but I wouldn't hold my breath for a fix, as things > stand > the version reported only changes when the kernel is updated, or if you > recompile it after the update. It would be nice if the version of the OS itself was stored in something like /etc/freebsd-version so you know what the version of the OS as a whole is. I'd even accept some sort of output by freebsd-update. It just seems silly that there's no other way -- kern.osrelease is just the base release and kern.version is the same thing that uname -a outputs. It's hard to pick this up and monitor it accurately. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 20:00:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E5BBB5 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843241B9A for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UV5rN-0007Ax-Na for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:00:09 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:00:09 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:00:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <20130424180504.c5d0dc1d.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:00:20 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:35:01 +0200, Alexandre wrote: > Freebsd-update tool apply binary patches to your -RELEASE system and > GENERIC kernel. > Furthermore, sources are synced too (/usr/src) by default. > If you want to see the -p# increased, you have to recompile your GENERIC > kernel. > If you are using a custom kernel, you must recompile it to apply patches > as your sources are up-to-date. You will have the -p# increased too. OK, thanks. The mists are beginning to clear. I've synced the source tree and recompiled the kernel, and all is well now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 20:05:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3BEE34 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EF71BEB for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UV5w7-0006bS-Sg for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:05:03 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:05:03 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:05:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <20130424203430.e127c9a56fe88f968eed6ad5@sohara.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:05:05 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:52:17 -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:34:30 -0500, Steve O'Hara-Smith > wrote: > >> You have updated to 9.1-RELEASE-p2 - but since there have been no >> kernel changes since 9.1-RELEASE the kernel version message hasn't >> changed. >> This could very reasonably be regarded as bug in the update/version >> reporting process but I wouldn't hold my breath for a fix, as things >> stand the version reported only changes when the kernel is updated, or >> if you recompile it after the update. > > It would be nice if the version of the OS itself was stored in something > like /etc/freebsd-version so you know what the version of the OS as a > whole is. I'd even accept some sort of output by freebsd-update. It just > seems silly that there's no other way -- kern.osrelease is just the base > release and kern.version is the same thing that uname -a outputs. It's > hard to pick this up and monitor it accurately. I think I agree with this. It's somewhat confusing for a novice like me. Thanks to all for the helpful replies. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 20:16:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA803C5 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD491CAD for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UV67V-0000Tw-44 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:16:49 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:16:49 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:16:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:16:32 -0400 Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <20130423010407.25a73c92@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:16:51 -0000 Alejandro Imass wrote: [snip] >>> Most consider the answer to use WPA2, which I do use too. Many think >>> it is 'virtually' unbreakable, but this really is not true; it just >>> takes longer. I've done WPA2 keys in as little as 2-3 hours before. >> >> Are you saying that any WPA2 key can be cracked or or you simply >> referring to weak keys? > > I would also like to specifically if it's for weak keys or are all > WPA2 personal keys crackable by brute force. Also is WPA2 Enterprise > as weak also. Could anyone expand on how weak is WPA2 and WPA2 > Enterprise or is this related to weak PSKs only?? > I'm just a lowly sysadmin and not any kind of crypto expert. The problem is time and horsepower. While a ridiculously easy key of say 4 characters that is not salted may be doable on a PC, once you start to get to 8-9 characters or more the time it takes begins to get huge fast. It's a matter of can you tie up the resource long enough to wait it out. Throw salting into the mix and it gets longer again. What I do at home is concatenate 2 ham radio call signs of friends that I can remember. Then I sha256 that and select from the end backwards 15 characters. This won't actually defeat the inherent weakness of using a pre- shared key, but it will take longer for a simple brute force. You should also throw in additional characters from your character set beyond just alpha/numerics. Also, my little tinkertoy i5-3570K overclocked up to 4.5GHz is just that - a toy. I can use it to generate a trace file, which I then take to work and replay it using a z196 when they occasionally allow me to play for bit. I also have rainbow tables and dictionary word-lists pregenerated for cheating. Another thing people are playing with is stuffing 4 high end video cards in a box and using them for computation. This enhances the PC platform beyond just using the CPU. There are also people doing this "in the cloud". And they will rent you compute time for a fee. :-) The pre-shared key is the weakest as compared to Enterprise. Enterprise WPA is stronger because it is a user account based system which authenticates using 802.1x via a Radius server. You can even assign certificates to user accounts and if they don't have the cert on the client they are trying to connect with, it won't. Throw Kerberos re-ticketing into the mix adds another layer to the onion. I seem to think recalling something about Kerberos re-ticketing something like every 900 seconds, or something like that. Switches and other network equipment that supports 802.1x can also filter out traffic that is not authorized. Bottom line is Enterprise is better than a simple pre-shared key. But it involves radius, dns/dhcp, windows domain controllers, active directory, a PKI infrastrucure and access points that are designed for use in this environment (and they cost more). So while it may be more secure than a simple pre-shared key, it is simply not practical for the home user as they won't have all the 'other' resources required to utilize it. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 20:31:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DDE8FE for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EB51D43 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UV6LI-0004aD-Bo; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:31:04 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UV6LO-000ELx-Hu; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:31:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:31:10 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: "Mark Felder" Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Message-Id: <20130424213110.c277bd304c00ab64bcac2225@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20130424203430.e127c9a56fe88f968eed6ad5@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:31:14 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:52:17 -0500 "Mark Felder" wrote: > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:34:30 -0500, Steve O'Hara-Smith > wrote: > > > You have updated to 9.1-RELEASE-p2 - but since there have been no > > kernel changes since 9.1-RELEASE the kernel version message hasn't > > changed. > > This could very reasonably be regarded as bug in the update/version > > reporting process but I wouldn't hold my breath for a fix, as things > > stand > > the version reported only changes when the kernel is updated, or if you > > recompile it after the update. > > It would be nice if the version of the OS itself was stored in something > like /etc/freebsd-version so you know what the version of the OS as a Yes it would. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 20:53:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F93E1F for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787821E0D for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UV6hM-00072H-2C for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:53:52 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:53:52 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:53:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:53:39 -0400 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <51763692.8010805@qeng-ho.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:53:54 -0000 Arthur Chance wrote: [snip] >> What I was pondering is some form of L2TP tunnel, or some other form of >> IPSEC tunnel to form some kind of VPN like communication between the >> client and the wifi. Just never have begun to find the time to get >> anywhere with the idea. But basically it would resemble a VPN that only >> accepts connection from a tunnel endpoint client and not pass any traffic >> from any other client lacking this VPN-like endpoint. I think such a >> thing is very possible and have read some articles by people who have >> done very similar sounding things. Indeed, this is what SSL-VPN providers >> do via a subscription service so people surfing at open wifi coffee shops >> tunnel through the local open wifi and setup an encrypted VPN tunnel. > > A quick note: pfSense (I don't know about m0n0wall) has OpenVPN built in > to it. Depending on whether all devices which are going to connect > wirelessly can run the client end of OpenVPN, this might be a quick way > to get greater security on the WiFi side. > This is along the lines of what I was thinking. I am my own CA and can generate certs that no one else has the private keys to. The problem with buying certs from a provider is the gov't has access to the private keys on demand. This was mandated back during the Clinton administration for the US. I do things like turn password auth off on my SSH and only auth via certs. Extending this to other 'connectivities' is a way to make it harder for those with no approved cert to get in. The pairing of firewall and OpenVPN together sounds interesting. Will definitely check it out. Thanks for the pointer! -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 21:11:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174242A9 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4151E91 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UV6yX-0001a1-TA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:11:37 +0200 Received: from pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.84.117]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:11:37 +0200 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:11:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:11:26 -0400 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <20130423010407.25a73c92@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-84-117.washdc.fios.verizon.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:11:46 -0000 Michael Powell wrote: > [snip] >>> Are you saying that any WPA2 key can be cracked or or you simply >>> referring to weak keys? >> >> I would also like to specifically if it's for weak keys or are all >> WPA2 personal keys crackable by brute force. Also is WPA2 Enterprise >> as weak also. Could anyone expand on how weak is WPA2 and WPA2 >> Enterprise or is this related to weak PSKs only?? >> Oh, and BTW was going to include this in the last and forgot: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=cracking_wpa -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 21:33:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A51DBD4 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:33:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@x.it.okstate.edu) Received: from mailhost01.okstate.edu (mailhost02.okstate.edu [139.78.133.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1746B1F6F for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from x.it.okstate.edu (x.it.okstate.edu [139.78.2.13]) by mailhost02.okstate.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3OL7ZVj020125 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:07:35 -0500 Received: from x.it.okstate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x.it.okstate.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3OL7Z55094161 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:07:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from martin@x.it.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <201304242107.r3OL7Z55094161@x.it.okstate.edu> From: Martin McCormick cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Procmail Decoding Mime Messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <94159.1366837655.1@x.it.okstate.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:07:35 -0500 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-04-24_08:2013-04-24,2013-04-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=adultspam_notspam policy=adultspam score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1304240189 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:33:59 -0000 Is there a filter that one can run in procmail in which base64 encoded data go in and text comes out so one can allow procmailrc to do its work? I use bogofilter to filter spam and it does a very good job after one builds a core of spammishness, but legitimate messages are often-times filled with base64 sections that look like garbage to the regular expressions that one puts in .procmailrc for sorting mail. When searching for information, I found something called mimencode which both encodes and decodes these attachments, but there is no FreeBSD port called mimencode so it occurred to me that some other application might exist which is in the ports that does basically the same thing. Is there anything which will take a raw email message and spit out linear strings which can be processed like normal text? Thank you. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 21:40:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EB4EE2 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-da0-x236.google.com (mail-da0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2DA81FC5 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-da0-f54.google.com with SMTP id s35so1084951dak.13 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:40:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ask7qsKzkJ04ht71btZ6ZTq5d5cQw1Sw64xRupo/M/M=; b=R63bWTAM5zIeDZEZEbZ9KCtTwc3kyC6otyAt/VJnl5iLklvWbTKOtbU+xhkfmu3r8g N1/1jiY8X1jpQj5pMOlsjg/vhBcLGh8gjlp0hb2y1OBJtq9dn++Hf39mPeoWbTbPlRjW m0SWqr6eWiSte6WgD/eidu9uUBKX2qmKfAuQ9jF80EopLI/2OJU10A4CwPTNdey0xle/ LW2D5fs76LjzIAPHSgUVDH/x9ZQ3WFWAu44PkBWSbGM+/oPzRRfH2IJfsKdKzdvHIEG0 qaTIIqaZnHmIVt2nGhRIG32oqwr64ckZmZi6g7U89GddGtwejki3ti1WafGA++2MNhh3 L9tw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.89.199 with SMTP id bq7mr25521120pab.202.1366839641639; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.160.233 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:40:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20130423010407.25a73c92@gumby.homeunix.com> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:40:41 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? From: Alejandro Imass To: Michael Powell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnt+VdFFtM3N8EEtxTJ9IxyGTNSkwhvngZFK4N7Qw7NPhMF75Mpp5DaFpR9mgyklDzYVh3u Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:40:42 -0000 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Michael Powell wrote: > Alejandro Imass wrote: > > [snip] >>>> Most consider the answer to use WPA2, which I do use too. Many think >>>> it is 'virtually' unbreakable, but this really is not true; it just >>>> takes longer. I've done WPA2 keys in as little as 2-3 hours before. >>> >>> Are you saying that any WPA2 key can be cracked or or you simply >>> referring to weak keys? >> >> I would also like to specifically if it's for weak keys or are all >> WPA2 personal keys crackable by brute force. Also is WPA2 Enterprise >> as weak also. Could anyone expand on how weak is WPA2 and WPA2 >> Enterprise or is this related to weak PSKs only?? >> > > I'm just a lowly sysadmin and not any kind of crypto expert. The problem is > time and horsepower. While a ridiculously easy key of say 4 characters that > is not salted may be doable on a PC, once you start to get to 8-9 characters > or more the time it takes begins to get huge fast. It's a matter of can you > tie up the resource long enough to wait it out. Throw salting into the mix > and it gets longer again. > > What I do at home is concatenate 2 ham radio call signs of friends that I > can remember. Then I sha256 that and select from the end backwards 15 [...] > The pre-shared key is the weakest as compared to Enterprise. Enterprise WPA > is stronger because it is a user account based system which authenticates > using 802.1x via a Radius server. You can even assign certificates to user OK. So we are talking about weak PSKs, of course with enough computing power virtually anything is crackable by brute force. What I don't get is that I thought that mac address filtering at the wireless level meant that the router would not negotiate with a mac no listed in it's table. I haven't used Kismet but you are saying that with Kismet I can infer authorized macs that are connecting to a specific access point so I can spoof one and perform my brute force attack?? Honestly I don't know much about 802.11 but if that is so it's pretty retarded and mac address filtering really a joke then. Thanks again for such detailed responses. I know all this seems all OT but it's a security issue that I don't think that many people are aware of so I haven't changed the subject to OT because of this. Best, -- Alejandro Imass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 21:51:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407723BC for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryanrfrederick@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com (mail-oa0-f44.google.com [209.85.219.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECD7102A for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id h1so2260973oag.3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:51:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W+tQ9GhS3jQv3rkykbyXIzGDqn1IiEplyQf+yPRhCp0=; b=YbRqsxMTpRRJJJT1/sprgsyAEItuvOUw3Jurfjjtr8qt2CNXF9yM7b7N0bAQlD2i8w 0uRAT4+XSuqzjsFoAi4hnRgrHYJCCqEPUa4BpFcGy08dYl8DkqJAeUswbrLU9EFdvezJ zeTimRFOB4ad+wzqKMgA5K4FFsqsi20P8scCZHJ9gaZlomgblPwL0xVixMVflDyZ3EA+ 6aZNP93OxO+2T5AJEKr1F2OU228NwQUxca2i98ehgXf1YaU6o4zqWgkaxrcmw2DZlMeK P618WBjnGD6BcTOTGMgklp360NMTG2UfagF5txPCpNbX1VqiCII5bddg5q6G5Pq4s/69 PSjQ== X-Received: by 10.60.98.235 with SMTP id el11mr6781297oeb.57.1366840308326; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2610:1d8:a03:1:bd86:d29:9133:bf93? ([2610:1d8:a03:1:bd86:d29:9133:bf93]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id wq8sm2015041obb.7.2013.04.24.14.51.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <517853F2.9090909@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:51:46 -0500 From: Ryan Frederick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Procmail Decoding Mime Messages References: <201304242107.r3OL7Z55094161@x.it.okstate.edu> <517852DA.7000008@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <517852DA.7000008@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:51:49 -0000 Forgot to cc the list. On 04/24/2013 04:47 PM, Ryan Frederick wrote: > I believe mimencode is in ports as converters/mmencode. It is also > included as part of mail/metamail. > > Ryan > > On 04/24/2013 04:07 PM, Martin McCormick wrote: >> Is there a filter that one can run in procmail in which >> base64 encoded data go in and text comes out so one can allow >> procmailrc to do its work? >> >> I use bogofilter to filter spam and it does a very good >> job after one builds a core of spammishness, but legitimate >> messages are often-times filled with base64 sections that look >> like garbage to the regular expressions that one puts in >> .procmailrc for sorting mail. >> >> When searching for information, I found something called >> mimencode which both encodes and decodes these attachments, but >> there is no FreeBSD port called mimencode so it occurred to me >> that some other application might exist which is in the ports >> that does basically the same thing. >> >> Is there anything which will take a raw email message >> and spit out linear strings which can be processed like normal >> text? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Martin McCormick >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 22:04:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28906634 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:04:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88431090 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-124-1.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.124.1]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB0D276A9; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:04:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r3OM4as1004718; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:04:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:04:36 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Procmail Decoding Mime Messages Message-Id: <20130425000436.5b999ba5.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201304242107.r3OL7Z55094161@x.it.okstate.edu> References: <201304242107.r3OL7Z55094161@x.it.okstate.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:04:30 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:07:35 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > Is there a filter that one can run in procmail in which > base64 encoded data go in and text comes out so one can allow > procmailrc to do its work? > [...] > Is there anything which will take a raw email message > and spit out linear strings which can be processed like normal > text? I think this is possible with uudecode, in this case b64decode. See "man uuencode" for more information. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 22:23:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61067B66 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E4C1127 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au (unknown [192.168.0.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 152E85C22 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:39:49 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <51785B5F.4080903@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:23:27 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130205 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stop ifconfig high intensity message from master console References: <5177FFE2.10009@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <5177FFE2.10009@a1poweruser.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:23:35 -0000 On 04/25/13 01:53, Joe wrote: > When I do a ifconfig bridge create or ifconfig epair create commands I > get some high intensity messages on the hosts F1 session master console. > > I would like to suppress these messages. > > Is there any way to do that? You'd have to adjust your syslog.conf I'd imagine- look for /dev/console. Read the man page for syslog to know what to adjust on the line which tells it what to send to the console. I believe there might even be a 'not' setting. Correct me if I'm wrong guys. HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 22:44:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFFC96 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BF311F3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au (unknown [192.168.0.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3BE695C28 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:00:20 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <5178602F.9010805@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:43:59 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130205 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? References: <20130424203430.e127c9a56fe88f968eed6ad5@sohara.org> <20130424213110.c277bd304c00ab64bcac2225@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20130424213110.c277bd304c00ab64bcac2225@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:44:01 -0000 On 04/25/13 06:31, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:52:17 -0500 > "Mark Felder" wrote: > >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:34:30 -0500, Steve O'Hara-Smith >> wrote: >> >>> You have updated to 9.1-RELEASE-p2 - but since there have been no >>> kernel changes since 9.1-RELEASE the kernel version message hasn't >>> changed. >>> This could very reasonably be regarded as bug in the update/version >>> reporting process but I wouldn't hold my breath for a fix, as things >>> stand >>> the version reported only changes when the kernel is updated, or if you >>> recompile it after the update. >> It would be nice if the version of the OS itself was stored in something >> like /etc/freebsd-version so you know what the version of the OS as a > Yes it would. > sysctl kern.version From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 22:45:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3373D146 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBAF120A for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id l13so8448426wie.1 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:45:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tLK772gtj5AU/RBWC7yHXp+pLuydvvDkr9qR87aRqD8=; b=zmDYSIR5ICswi87ZktX3QyUvUfwrfu4yWFVplbolpufNiTGaOe2c2Q6BcvzaqIa/Sm QeT7mz6i1Chfe1YBylMeWaxjlc632ajamHfBkjtFQ4k77EAdOPrTMRQe6sMMqjvm5M6S HqKUrYjwxSvQqJoVNAaEQttg1dS5jaML5GRbOPlk7KdqH00p9EYQbNwYzooiPJyq+OKp D9tyw6JVbikBCqibm1U27pOVsDTnGtzhqebju7TXdIKU09vhzFDbp9qisCCQ+mqkCR54 /8jPgdI8kn3ULtlF0ke3OucHD7zuxAoVta89Gxbq3eSRZGcgi2YP+HRMdsYYi0uS7MOV CCOA== X-Received: by 10.194.88.138 with SMTP id bg10mr71889080wjb.13.1366843556883; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dj7sm5466285wib.6.2013.04.24.15.45.55 for (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:45:52 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? Message-ID: <20130424234552.420e116d@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20130423010407.25a73c92@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:45:58 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:16:32 -0400 Michael Powell wrote: > Alejandro Imass wrote: > > [snip] > >>> Most consider the answer to use WPA2, which I do use too. Many > >>> think it is 'virtually' unbreakable, but this really is not true; > >>> it just takes longer. I've done WPA2 keys in as little as 2-3 > >>> hours before. > >> > >> Are you saying that any WPA2 key can be cracked or or you simply > >> referring to weak keys? > > > > I would also like to specifically if it's for weak keys or are all > > WPA2 personal keys crackable by brute force. Also is WPA2 Enterprise > > as weak also. Could anyone expand on how weak is WPA2 and WPA2 > > Enterprise or is this related to weak PSKs only?? > > > > I'm just a lowly sysadmin and not any kind of crypto expert. The > problem is time and horsepower. While a ridiculously easy key of say > 4 characters that is not salted may be doable on a PC, once you start > to get to 8-9 characters or more the time it takes begins to get huge > fast. It's a matter of can you tie up the resource long enough to > wait it out. Right, but if you were to strip-mine the earth's crust and turn all the silicon into GPU cores you still wouldn't even come close to brute-forcing AES256 before the sun turns into a red-giant. If you're saying that WPA is inadequate because weak keys can be bruteforced then the answer is don't use a weak key. If someone breaks such a key then that's pilot error, not an inherent weakness in WPA. Use a key with 100-256 bits of entropy. > What I do at home is concatenate 2 ham radio call signs of friends > that I can remember. Then I sha256 that and select from the end > backwards 15 characters. 60 bits tops - assuming that there was 60 bit of entropy in the hashed data. My key is only twice as long, but about 40,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times better at resisting a brute force attack. > This won't actually defeat the inherent > weakness of using a pre- shared key, but it will take longer for a > simple brute force. You should also throw in additional characters > from your character set beyond just alpha/numerics. That's good advice for natural language pass phrases where there is only about 1 bit of entropy per character. IMO it's easier to type a high entropy password using only characters that wont need shifting on any device i.e. random lower-case letters. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 23:24:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF62BE2 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@skew.org) Received: from chilled.skew.org (chilled.skew.org [70.90.116.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1488D1396 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chilled.skew.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chilled.skew.org (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3ON7Bxm039369; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:07:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from mike@chilled.skew.org) Received: (from mike@localhost) by chilled.skew.org (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id r3ON7AEg039368; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:07:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from mike) From: Mike Brown Message-Id: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? In-Reply-To: <5178602F.9010805@herveybayaustralia.com.au> To: Da Rock Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:07:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Whoa: whoa. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL125 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:24:09 -0000 Da Rock wrote: > sysctl kern.version For me, that's the same info as in uname -a. Try this: grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 23:38:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 030C0124 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45F31432 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [192.168.23.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.6/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3ONcWDD021336 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:38:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg@pki2.com) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:38:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@btw.pki2.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: LSI 2008 Contoller settings for ZFS? Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: r3ONcWDD021336 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: dg@pki2.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:38:41 -0000 Is there a recommended set of settings on LSI 2008 chips burned IT for ZFS? Looking at the "Global Settings" in the configuration utility there is a field labeled "status" whose value can be enabled/disable/error. I don't know what to put there or whether it matters. There are other configuration items across the controller. Other than boot order, I don't know if they matter but "I/O Timeout for Block Devices" might. Any recommendation? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 00:12:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC71674 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9714153C for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:12:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF1E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.203.241.228]) (authenticated bits=128) by flat.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3P0BJAM039714; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:11:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r3P0CQWG005844; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:12:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3P0C5NX037535; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:12:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201304250012.r3P0C5NX037535@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Procmail Decoding Mime Messages From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:04:36 +0200." <20130425000436.5b999ba5.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:12:05 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Polytropon , Ryan Frederick , Martin McCormick X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:12:21 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:07:35 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: > > Is there a filter that one can run in procmail in which > > base64 encoded data go in and text comes out so one can allow > > procmailrc to do its work? Good question, I havent tried that yet, (but should), but I have been demiming both to help majordomo on servers, & via procmail on local (to reduce bulk on my future archives of personal mail). 2 tools worth knowing in /usr/ports/mail/ : demime emil A few notes from my http://berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/freebsd/ports/jhs/mail/Makefile.local (where I've also more notes on eg much hated quoted-printable ) -------- SUBDIR += emil # A candidate to be assesed for stripping quoted-printable from # majordomo on server, to help cluless people. # Something needed to replace demime as demime has been removed. # SUBDIR += mime4j # "It won't do any decoding of base64 or quoted-printable # encoded header fields and bodies." SUBDIR += demime # For majordomo on list servers, # For all the many lazy & incompetents who cant turn off sending # HTML to mail lists, despite having had a decade to learn. # (& for a few people who do understand they should, have tried to, but # can''t find where to turn off their HTML, if their ISP even allows. # Missing in FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE so see also SUBDIR += mail/emil -------- > > Is there anything which will take a raw email message > > and spit out linear strings which can be processed like normal > > text? See man emil ; man demime PS Trying to get procmail to work with a macro with a pipe defined after + $RCVSTOREUNSEEN, was a long pain & I failed so I use a longer version below which works, appended for syntax example. RCVSTORE=/usr/local/libexec/nmh/rcvstore RCVSTOREUNSEEN="$RCVSTORE -nounseen" # A 2nd copy, just text, stripped of MIME enclosures is # stored in $PRI_MAIL by $RCVSTOREUNSEEN # The 2nd copy is stored with $RCVSTORE -nounseen so I dont have to # click the archive copy from within exmh. NOMIME="/usr/local/bin/demime -8 -" # Demime is not in current after 9.1-RELEASE # To not demime instead use NOMIME=cat # NOMIME=cat # NOMIME=/usr/local/bin/emil # Emil converts a .jpg MIME to a uuencoded appended without MIME # I can not seem to achieve something like this: # XYZ="$NOMIME | $RCVSTOREUNSEEN" { :0 cw | $NOMIME | $RCVSTOREUNSEEN +$PRI_MAIL/my/archive :0 wc | $RCVSTORE +$INBOX_PLAIN } Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with "> ". Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 00:47:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8A9239 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from new1-smtp.messagingengine.com (new1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01A6167D for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5072C1DD3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web4.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.214]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:47:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; h= message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:references; s=mesmtp; bh= fbvczH9RZIU/Ic1it/8xrpXK69A=; b=YR/eK675RJeEWZz3uIdR/ww8jXbvH451 kyXzi5xZg/Mh4Q6KRyiYw8OiReSenX3sAw2z94uO/cldsDrZSFdA/pSfeEmEq2an uwRg5HFWHRHyiwrswsVf7DsXOnDCypJdqMykrNFdIU93NUVMh3hmG3ELyy/irYe5 U5uOCJh7Oqs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to :references; s=smtpout; bh=fbvczH9RZIU/Ic1it/8xrpXK69A=; b=H1DjB kBsTwzTPNEimLHDWwqvbv4kYtzRw1mwmRwOu+QGzhmzgVzTnUwTLhNbqBpJm5Bdu PWRW1FcnChtk5oAh+/wj71SEVtO9QkfHW588X1/Y6P9uf4dADyJPfkN02kvDy40D d0h/Qi+4zrjzEfdcBz5aUhnhc2cpPiDUm39oy0= Received: by web4.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id E460F70106C; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 20:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1366850868.14180.140661222407930.081335B8@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: SXPMN4wLFRdTGxQ9RQ/fvICrKf3VwuZcIw9zwstYCOjG 1366850868 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-a83df6b4 Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:47:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> References: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:47:52 -0000 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013, at 18:07, Mike Brown wrote: > Da Rock wrote: > > sysctl kern.version > > For me, that's the same info as in uname -a. > > Try this: > > grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 > Not useful if you don't have src on your servers, but that's good to know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 01:02:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14002483 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from st11p05mm-asmtp001.mac.com (st11p05mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.172.108.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A9616F7 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.209.4.71]) by st11p05mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MLS00FHEARF2350@st11p05mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:02:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-04-24_08:2013-04-24,2013-04-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1302030000 definitions=main-1304240234 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: Home WiFi Router with pfSense or m0n0wall? From: Charles Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:02:03 -0700 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: References: <51763692.8010805@qeng-ho.org> To: nightrecon@hotmail.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:02:28 -0000 Hi-- On Apr 24, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Michael Powell = wrote: > This is along the lines of what I was thinking. I am my own CA and can=20= > generate certs that no one else has the private keys to. So can someone who does not run their own CA...? > The problem with buying certs from a provider is the gov't has access > to the private keys on demand. Um, how does that work when they don't have your private keys? People generate a CSR which they send to a public CA like = Verisign/Entrust/et al for signing. That CSR contains the RSA public key, and a matching = signature created by the private key to authenticate the CSR request, but it does = not contain the private key itself. Consider: openssl req -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout key.pem -out req.pem openssl req -in req.pem -text -verify -noout ls -l key.pem req.pem ...or even go through the explicit process of seeing the different data = available: openssl rsa -in key.pem -pubout -out pubkey.pem openssl rsa -in key.pem -text -noout openssl rsa -pubin -in pubkey.pem -text -noout [ A CSR is about half of the size of the private+public key file; and = the public key by itself is a quarter the size of the private+public key file. And = even possessing key.pem doesn't disclose the private key, since there's a password = needed. Unless you make an effort to export the key without a password, that is. ] Regards, --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 01:10:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A931A659 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E87B1736 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r3P1A0ZB066160; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:10:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r3P19xUP066157; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:10:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:09:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: Procmail Decoding Mime Messages In-Reply-To: <201304242107.r3OL7Z55094161@x.it.okstate.edu> Message-ID: References: <201304242107.r3OL7Z55094161@x.it.okstate.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:10:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:10:01 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013, Martin McCormick wrote: > Is there a filter that one can run in procmail in which > base64 encoded data go in and text comes out so one can allow > procmailrc to do its work? > > I use bogofilter to filter spam and it does a very good > job after one builds a core of spammishness, but legitimate > messages are often-times filled with base64 sections that look > like garbage to the regular expressions that one puts in > .procmailrc for sorting mail. > > When searching for information, I found something called > mimencode which both encodes and decodes these attachments, but > there is no FreeBSD port called mimencode so it occurred to me > that some other application might exist which is in the ports > that does basically the same thing. > > Is there anything which will take a raw email message > and spit out linear strings which can be processed like normal > text? mail/maildrop has a reformime program which may be useful. maildrop itself is like a better and easier to use procmail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 01:41:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE65CA51 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF5A17DE for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au (unknown [192.168.0.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 541795C28 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:57:40 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <517889BF.3020205@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:41:19 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130205 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? References: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> In-Reply-To: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:41:20 -0000 On 04/25/13 09:07, Mike Brown wrote: > Da Rock wrote: >> sysctl kern.version > For me, that's the same info as in uname -a. > > Try this: > > grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 That shows even less. But the point of the OP was having a file in etc with the info on version, which I fell could be redundant given the excessive detail available in sysctl which is what it is meant for. uname actually refers to the sysctl as a neat command for a shell user, doesn't it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 01:52:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2507D1CB for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:52:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com (mail-we0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E131839 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id x43so2124284wey.11 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:52:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ueO+iXCJXbfnR+xaXpdhLpSEk7PeCXUFzZp+0VhA9Wo=; b=FGGdLVNlJV7AoKFVa2tA+3MzzaXuecpncSTk65TOG1Kb5/gmwsSZNFw7WwHi/LAv90 gd7Ths4TnFION5OCHGua6hOteRh1V9UOUt/RdLJNoVauXhats3Dgr4NonXrxFapoiZZt 9CpwRTToRiIRx7ARHTUF39Dnfy+E7ewJ94oLAtIu086xBSEb9B2GGtcZxV1EnVRWSyUm b1JkqG5VZ0JCrNVGwEZu62LcNiV5w4wvyuU3j0aep1POTI3zZ5A0uu+/v5SbYDjCCSJI XvdQkQGkozS05xNy+osrW14EO/y+2221lsD0XwvnekNuXSaE7bfL01h6n4CFgmdtnANA OYZQ== X-Received: by 10.180.105.195 with SMTP id go3mr654065wib.2.1366854742881; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from X220.optiplex-networks.com (81-178-2-118.dsl.pipex.com. [81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fz3sm7743652wib.0.2013.04.24.18.52.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51788C55.6040009@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:52:21 +0100 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130407 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Unknown IP address shows FreeBSD server MAC in arp cache Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 01:52:24 -0000 Hi, I'm experiencing a weird problem and I have no idea where to begin with this one! Basically what's happening is that I did a host scan from my NetBSD box running Cacti in order to 'Auto Discover' machines on my network; a php script on the Cacti server added an IP address xxx.xxx.1.52. Seeing this as odd since I haven't configured any machine with this IP as it's in the DHCP range on my network and there aren't any machines running on DHCP on the particular VLAN either as everything is statically configured; I proceeded to check the arp cache of my NetBSD box which pointed to the MAC address of my FreeBSD server? Having a look round my network and servers each ping attempt to xxx.xxx.1.52 gives me a response and in the arp cache of each machine/device shows the FreeBSD server. Long ago I may have had this machine on xxx.xxx.1.52 but I can't recall and all settings in /etc/rc.conf for interfaces and Jails are fine and consistent with my Network Spec. My network has also had a massive overhaul since then as I've changed switches and router in the meantime too.... I have thought about arp poisoning but then again no other machine is connected to my network that I don't know about and since it's a home network there's really only me connected to it. Also I'm running OpenBSD as a firewall/router gateway which I've also checked thoroughly including Packet Filter and haven't found any issues. I also thought about RARP and bootparamd since I'm running a bunch of Sun SPARC systems in which I NetBooted but nothing on that front either showed any result. I additionally have checked the /etc/hosts files of all my systems and even my local DNS db files but nothing shows xxx.xxx.1.52 at all. The BSD version that I'm running on my FreeBSD server is 8.2 x64. Would anyone be able to help me out with this one? Basically why is a rogue or unknown IP address pointing to my FreeBSD box's NIC? Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 02:08:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46955323 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kayasaman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com (mail-wi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17F9188B for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hj19so2773241wib.4 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:08:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-forwarded-message-id:content-type; bh=4NwGbWawcs2ArJRrQbFEz5cb/yeCsGmxIwByqoDz918=; b=uJmHbN3ISj6J5T/8cI/zRB9InObw51xeJiyhiZV9N7fsCpC4hJdGyfxCzkRofvfwnv fbMtr1VNIyUvcDgFj/mZlfm2MDlYaG/8E6q4XtEBKUOq8FKFBS+s2qBeDZTCdB47t1se FHaLUpKg3XM8DMBw+2SZ2yXa6dcO2gurhCeTMrFNeCW1kNi6ZbW9RoaGFVT15UJPEPxx 2qUodSZAPSgqdNGXYb7uUgirWLoDoQd+obonyu1J5+6qZIzbBGaj5hNhn2JXnBxWdNN8 YuBlAP3KmKkYt8iHZvLRBxIRQ3wza8bL/GZNjtsXa+0GC2wCWHu0c4xpPVf3pKbNdyLc wRqA== X-Received: by 10.194.10.129 with SMTP id i1mr57008093wjb.21.1366855688820; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from X220.optiplex-networks.com (81-178-2-118.dsl.pipex.com. [81.178.2.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q20sm7698568wiv.7.2013.04.24.19.08.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51789007.6090708@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 03:08:07 +0100 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130407 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Subject: Fwd: Unknown IP address shows FreeBSD server MAC in arp cache References: <51788C55.6040009@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51788C55.6040009@gmail.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <51788C55.6040009@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:08:10 -0000 Well.... I managed to find the answer!! Scanning through /etc/defaults/rc.conf I noticed this: dhclient_program="/sbin/dhclient" # Path to dhcp client program. dhclient_flags="" # Extra flags to pass to dhcp client. Then I went back to check my DHCP server's log files and indeed a DHCP request came through from the server even though the IP's are all statically configured on it. Now all I have to do is tell the system not to use the "dhclient" program and then all will be sorted :-) Few..... Regards, Kaya -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Unknown IP address shows FreeBSD server MAC in arp cache Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:52:21 +0100 From: Kaya Saman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Hi, I'm experiencing a weird problem and I have no idea where to begin with this one! Basically what's happening is that I did a host scan from my NetBSD box running Cacti in order to 'Auto Discover' machines on my network; a php script on the Cacti server added an IP address xxx.xxx.1.52. Seeing this as odd since I haven't configured any machine with this IP as it's in the DHCP range on my network and there aren't any machines running on DHCP on the particular VLAN either as everything is statically configured; I proceeded to check the arp cache of my NetBSD box which pointed to the MAC address of my FreeBSD server? Having a look round my network and servers each ping attempt to xxx.xxx.1.52 gives me a response and in the arp cache of each machine/device shows the FreeBSD server. Long ago I may have had this machine on xxx.xxx.1.52 but I can't recall and all settings in /etc/rc.conf for interfaces and Jails are fine and consistent with my Network Spec. My network has also had a massive overhaul since then as I've changed switches and router in the meantime too.... I have thought about arp poisoning but then again no other machine is connected to my network that I don't know about and since it's a home network there's really only me connected to it. Also I'm running OpenBSD as a firewall/router gateway which I've also checked thoroughly including Packet Filter and haven't found any issues. I also thought about RARP and bootparamd since I'm running a bunch of Sun SPARC systems in which I NetBooted but nothing on that front either showed any result. I additionally have checked the /etc/hosts files of all my systems and even my local DNS db files but nothing shows xxx.xxx.1.52 at all. The BSD version that I'm running on my FreeBSD server is 8.2 x64. Would anyone be able to help me out with this one? Basically why is a rogue or unknown IP address pointing to my FreeBSD box's NIC? Regards, Kaya From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 02:13:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A090F4E8 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feld@feld.me) Received: from new1-smtp.messagingengine.com (new1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758BF18C1 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CDC1DD3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web4.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.214]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:13:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=feld.me; h= message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:in-reply-to:references:subject:date; s=mesmtp; bh= Z0c1/VvHmKK52Yp7p09xrk0MXVw=; b=dejx/iSahDO8Dy5XJCPby1OIg5dCoY3k /JvE/dLgwhmcs7TGwidjyY5a40V7NKFyMj3pRI4KD4LQITH8HiEkquJ2fF8K6EMh HVt8Se9DoHSqMaQfAnZo+Ckk9poY/0tP4Qn++yaN09YwCZr9k4pE2xIfTP87sESQ BDtj/PhsHfE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=Z0c1/VvHmKK52Yp7p09xrk0MXVw=; b=O5D SBgw9jHBprvGzNsvIqhVjTA/aTq4MEnIMF+UdtZo4jRyadEmzYkfgtCKzgVeroEm eIUtZxqjkJj7f68ndZkrj08u67si0o0C3UPlwyiVAxiEllsd2maa5OlDPrPMsoVY +8LoasDpRH1o7QdDhG0lKXurE+YW16UmdUIAYrT0= Received: by web4.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix, from userid 99) id 25E3C701208; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1366856036.26717.140661222428210.67B5DAA6@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: /ONsf8GDqQvkThU2/TgkF8iVIPXS2CKmSFs+7/3V8opi 1366856036 From: Mark Felder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-a83df6b4 In-Reply-To: <517889BF.3020205@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> <517889BF.3020205@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:13:56 -0500 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:13:59 -0000 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013, at 20:41, Da Rock wrote: > On 04/25/13 09:07, Mike Brown wrote: > > Da Rock wrote: > >> sysctl kern.version > > For me, that's the same info as in uname -a. > > > > Try this: > > > > grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 > That shows even less. But the point of the OP was having a file in etc > with the info on version, which I fell could be redundant given the > excessive detail available in sysctl which is what it is meant for. > uname actually refers to the sysctl as a neat command for a shell user, > doesn't it? > The point is that the uname and sysctl output is inaccurate. If the latest release is -p6 and the kernel hasn't been touched since -p4, both uname and the sysctl only show -p4. It's impossible to tell otherwise that the system is really -p6 if you don't have /usr/src/. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 02:20:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C24DA for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:20:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1371C1938 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-233.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.233]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC413E02B for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 04:20:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r3P2K9Us006533 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 04:20:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 04:20:09 +0200 From: Polytropon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Message-Id: <20130425042009.789b89bd.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1366856036.26717.140661222428210.67B5DAA6@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> <517889BF.3020205@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <1366856036.26717.140661222428210.67B5DAA6@webmail.messagingengine.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:20:07 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:13:56 -0500, Mark Felder wrote: > The point is that the uname and sysctl output is inaccurate. If the > latest release is -p6 and the kernel hasn't been touched since -p4, both > uname and the sysctl only show -p4. It's impossible to tell otherwise > that the system is really -p6 if you don't have /usr/src/. The "src" component can be updated using the appropriate entry in /etc/freebsd-update.conf so the information is there, no matter if the kernel has been touched or not. In my opinion, it could be helpful to have a somehow more precise information about what version of the OS is currently installed. I suggest having a text file in /etc that contains the currently installed version, maybe also a SVN revision number and a date. Updating via freebsd-update should not be that complicated. Also by updating from source (e. g. when following -STABLE where no X.Y-pZ version information is provided) this file could be installed properly. By checking this file the user could quickly retrieve the required information in a quickly understandable form. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 02:32:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76774761 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mcmli.com (oneyou.mcmli.com [IPv6:2001:470:1d:8da::100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4413C1A8C for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:3fa::1]) by oneyou.mcmli.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3Zx2VF6HGLz1DQS for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BigBloat (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.20.1.4]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D720F130CC for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <201304242232170093.02EE4C98@sentry.24cl.com> In-Reply-To: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> References: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:32:17 -0400 From: "Mike." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:32:23 -0000 On 4/24/2013 at 5:07 PM Mike Brown wrote: |Da Rock wrote: |> sysctl kern.version | |For me, that's the same info as in uname -a. | |Try this: | |grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 ============= If uname -r [-a] does not give the proper version of the OS, then it is either a bug, or the documentation for uname should be changed. Currently, the man page for uname gives the following option: -r Write the current release level of the operating system to stan- dard output. If you need to do grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 in order to write the correct and current release level of the operating system to standard output, then perhaps uname should be fixed to accommodate freebsd update's partial update process of the OS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 02:47:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65886BC2 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7801AF3 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-233.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.233]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2724E3DEFB; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 04:47:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r3P2liiB006687; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 04:47:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 04:47:44 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Mike." Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Message-Id: <20130425044744.3ebda15f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201304242232170093.02EE4C98@sentry.24cl.com> References: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> <201304242232170093.02EE4C98@sentry.24cl.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 02:47:36 -0000 On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:32:17 -0400, Mike. wrote: > If uname -r [-a] does not give the proper version of the OS, then it is > either a bug, or the documentation for uname should be changed. > Currently, the man page for uname gives the following option: > > -r Write the current release level of the operating system to > stan- > dard output. Also the manpage of uname(3) would require a change to make clear that the version of the _kernel_ is provided, which _may_ stay the same during patchlevels of a given version. From that point of view, if we consider the patchlevel _not_ being part of the OS _version_, the statement (as it currently reads) makes sense. The understanding is: Version 9.1 is the OS version, and if a patch has been added, it's still 9.1 (even though the more precise information is 9.1-p5 for example). Similarly consider followint -STABLE: in this case, 9-STABLE or 9.1-STABLE is being reported, because no "precise" version numbers exist on that branch (at least not in the terms of patchlevels, instead a repository revision number or the date of the checkout could be considered for precision). The uname program relies on the uname system call to get the system identification, which queries the information stored in a (struct utsname *) data structure: The uname() function stores NUL-terminated strings of information identi- fying the current system into the structure referenced by name. The utsname structure is defined in the header file, and contains the following members: release Release level of the operating system. version Version level of the operating system. This part of documentation would, given the case, also require adjustment, refering to the kernel instead of the OS. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 03:32:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F012FF for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 03:32:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mcmli.com (oneyou.mcmli.com [IPv6:2001:470:1d:8da::100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541241D1A for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 03:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:3fa::1]) by oneyou.mcmli.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3Zx3q94zDyz1DSy for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BigBloat (bigbloat.24cl.home [10.20.1.4]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BAE130CC for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <201304242332000938.0324FC0A@sentry.24cl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130425044744.3ebda15f.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> <201304242232170093.02EE4C98@sentry.24cl.com> <20130425044744.3ebda15f.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:32:00 -0400 From: "Mike." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 03:32:06 -0000 On 4/25/2013 at 4:47 AM Polytropon wrote: |On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:32:17 -0400, Mike. wrote: |> If uname -r [-a] does not give the proper version of the OS, then it is |> either a bug, or the documentation for uname should be changed. |> Currently, the man page for uname gives the following option: |> |> -r Write the current release level of the operating system to |> stan- |> dard output. | |Also the manpage of uname(3) would require a change to make clear |that the version of the _kernel_ is provided, which _may_ stay the |same during patchlevels of a given version. From that point of |view, if we consider the patchlevel _not_ being part of the OS |_version_, the statement (as it currently reads) makes sense. |The understanding is: Version 9.1 is the OS version, and if |a patch has been added, it's still 9.1 (even though the more |precise information is 9.1-p5 for example). Similarly consider |followint -STABLE: in this case, 9-STABLE or 9.1-STABLE is being |reported, because no "precise" version numbers exist on that |branch (at least not in the terms of patchlevels, instead a |repository revision number or the date of the checkout could |be considered for precision). | |The uname program relies on the uname system call to get the |system identification, which queries the information stored in a |(struct utsname *) data structure: | | The uname() function stores NUL-terminated strings of information |identi- | fying the current system into the structure referenced by name. | | | The utsname structure is defined in the header file, |and | contains the following members: | | release Release level of the operating system. | | version Version level of the operating system. | |This part of documentation would, given the case, also require |adjustment, refering to the kernel instead of the OS. ============= On the other hand, maybe instead of changing the documentation of uname to accommodate a problem with freebsd update, maybe freebsd update should be changed to accommodate the historical and expected performance of uname. In other words, once I found out this problem with freebsd update (i.e., not properly refreshing the OS version), I stopped using it, as I was not able to ascertain the current state of my OS installation anymore. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 03:43:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F454A4 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 03:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1751D65 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 03:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au (unknown [192.168.0.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5E9C05C22 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:59:24 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <5178A647.4030302@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:43:03 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130205 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? References: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> <201304242232170093.02EE4C98@sentry.24cl.com> <20130425044744.3ebda15f.freebsd@edvax.de> <201304242332000938.0324FC0A@sentry.24cl.com> In-Reply-To: <201304242332000938.0324FC0A@sentry.24cl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 03:43:04 -0000 On 04/25/13 13:32, Mike. wrote: > On 4/25/2013 at 4:47 AM Polytropon wrote: > > |On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:32:17 -0400, Mike. wrote: > |> If uname -r [-a] does not give the proper version of the OS, then it > is > |> either a bug, or the documentation for uname should be changed. > |> Currently, the man page for uname gives the following option: > |> > |> -r Write the current release level of the operating system to > |> stan- > |> dard output. > | > |Also the manpage of uname(3) would require a change to make clear > |that the version of the _kernel_ is provided, which _may_ stay the > |same during patchlevels of a given version. From that point of > |view, if we consider the patchlevel _not_ being part of the OS > |_version_, the statement (as it currently reads) makes sense. > |The understanding is: Version 9.1 is the OS version, and if > |a patch has been added, it's still 9.1 (even though the more > |precise information is 9.1-p5 for example). Similarly consider > |followint -STABLE: in this case, 9-STABLE or 9.1-STABLE is being > |reported, because no "precise" version numbers exist on that > |branch (at least not in the terms of patchlevels, instead a > |repository revision number or the date of the checkout could > |be considered for precision). > | > |The uname program relies on the uname system call to get the > |system identification, which queries the information stored in a > |(struct utsname *) data structure: > | > | The uname() function stores NUL-terminated strings of information > |identi- > | fying the current system into the structure referenced by name. > | > | > | The utsname structure is defined in the header > file, > |and > | contains the following members: > | > | release Release level of the operating system. > | > | version Version level of the operating system. > | > |This part of documentation would, given the case, also require > |adjustment, refering to the kernel instead of the OS. > ============= > > > On the other hand, maybe instead of changing the documentation of uname > to accommodate a problem with freebsd update, maybe freebsd update > should be changed to accommodate the historical and expected > performance of uname. > > In other words, once I found out this problem with freebsd update > (i.e., not properly refreshing the OS version), I stopped using it, as > I was not able to ascertain the current state of my OS installation > anymore. Interesting. My only observation was that sysctl is supposed to be the 'system' database where all queries relate to. It is supposed to display everything about the system; therefore any of these data bits should be fixed here first. Anything else would be a 'feature' :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 05:39:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDE83A7 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 05:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC841FD2 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 05:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVEu6-0002Ie-OW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:39:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UVEuD-000Hif-Jf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 05:39:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:39:41 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Message-Id: <20130425063941.126a748686691ce998aa8a07@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <5178602F.9010805@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <20130424203430.e127c9a56fe88f968eed6ad5@sohara.org> <20130424213110.c277bd304c00ab64bcac2225@sohara.org> <5178602F.9010805@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 05:39:45 -0000 On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:43:59 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > On 04/25/13 06:31, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:52:17 -0500 > > "Mark Felder" wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:34:30 -0500, Steve O'Hara-Smith > >> wrote: > >> > >>> You have updated to 9.1-RELEASE-p2 - but since there have been no > >>> kernel changes since 9.1-RELEASE the kernel version message hasn't > >>> changed. > >>> This could very reasonably be regarded as bug in the update/version > >>> reporting process but I wouldn't hold my breath for a fix, as things > >>> stand > >>> the version reported only changes when the kernel is updated, or if > >>> you recompile it after the update. > >> It would be nice if the version of the OS itself was stored in > >> something like /etc/freebsd-version so you know what the version of > >> the OS as a > > Yes it would. > > > sysctl kern.version The problem under discussion is that the kernel version does not change when a freebsd-update update does not include a kernel change. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 05:43:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC29701 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 05:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from uk1rly2283.eechost.net (relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net [217.69.40.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B9D1032 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 05:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [31.186.37.179] (helo=smtp.marelmo.com) by uk1rly2283.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UVExp-0003o8-Lv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:43:25 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.marelmo.com) by smtp.marelmo.com with smtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UVExw-000HjZ-Oq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 05:43:32 +0000 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:43:32 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Message-Id: <20130425064332.4f15a20a6a46dade5aa9a0e4@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <5178A647.4030302@herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <201304242307.r3ON7AEg039368@chilled.skew.org> <201304242232170093.02EE4C98@sentry.24cl.com> <20130425044744.3ebda15f.freebsd@edvax.de> <201304242332000938.0324FC0A@sentry.24cl.com> <5178A647.4030302@herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.17; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Auth-Info: 15567@permanet.ie (plain) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 05:43:34 -0000 On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:43:03 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > Interesting. My only observation was that sysctl is supposed to be the > 'system' database where all queries relate to. It is supposed to display > everything about the system; therefore any of these data bits should be > fixed here first. Anything else would be a 'feature' :) That would be nice - one way to achieve that would be to add a writable oid for patch level and not bump newvers.sh for patches. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 12:11:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AA28E2 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A2F10DE for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:11:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6 (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3PBp9lH088774; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:51:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:37:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg X-X-Sender: feenberg@nber6 To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? In-Reply-To: <20130425063941.126a748686691ce998aa8a07@sohara.org> Message-ID: References: <20130424203430.e127c9a56fe88f968eed6ad5@sohara.org> <20130424213110.c277bd304c00ab64bcac2225@sohara.org> <5178602F.9010805@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20130425063941.126a748686691ce998aa8a07@sohara.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20130425 #9885514, check: 20130425 clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:11:58 -0000 On Thu, 25 Apr 2013, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > The problem under discussion is that the kernel version does not > change when a freebsd-update update does not include a kernel change. > Perhaps we could adopt the Linux practice of placing the release information in /etc/issue Daniel Feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 13:12:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06845741 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@fuckaround.org) Received: from fuckaround.org (host246-124-static.23-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it [87.23.124.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B038713CF for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fuckaround.org (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 64E6B7581DE; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:05:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on fuckaround.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from fuckaround.org (fuckaround.org [127.0.0.1]) by fuckaround.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E447581DC for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:05:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 151.20.74.230 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ml) by fuckaround.org with HTTP; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:05:25 +0200 Message-ID: <15954c6eb32169aec3d233941e1e9554.squirrel@fuckaround.org> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:05:25 +0200 Subject: upgrade packages From: "Pol Hallen" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:12:09 -0000 Hi all! I come from linux os and I read a lot documentations about freebsd. I've a doubt: when I've some packages installed and I need upgrade it, I need to recompile those packages or there's another (fast) way to do this? thanks! Pol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 13:45:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B45ED6D for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D932315B9 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CFA33C2A; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 21CEA39829; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:45:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Martin McCormick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Procmail Decoding Mime Messages References: <201304242107.r3OL7Z55094161@x.it.okstate.edu> <20130425000436.5b999ba5.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:45:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20130425000436.5b999ba5.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:04:36 +0200") Message-ID: <44y5c6zptv.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:45:47 -0000 Polytropon writes: > On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:07:35 -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: >> Is there a filter that one can run in procmail in which >> base64 encoded data go in and text comes out so one can allow >> procmailrc to do its work? >> [...] >> Is there anything which will take a raw email message >> and spit out linear strings which can be processed like normal >> text? > > I think this is possible with uudecode, in this case b64decode. > See "man uuencode" for more information. uuencode predates MIME. Although there are MIME types defined for it, the base-system tools don't handle the MIME headers or section marking. For this purpose, a MIME-aware tool (such as ripmime, or metamail, or mmencode) will be much more useful as part of an automated filtering system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 14:00:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99521D2 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9446D166C for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-233.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.233]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F243CFB6; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:00:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r3PE0ZSE002025; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:00:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:00:35 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Pol Hallen" Subject: Re: upgrade packages Message-Id: <20130425160035.0fd9bb36.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <15954c6eb32169aec3d233941e1e9554.squirrel@fuckaround.org> References: <15954c6eb32169aec3d233941e1e9554.squirrel@fuckaround.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:00:29 -0000 On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:05:25 +0200, Pol Hallen wrote: > Hi all! > > I come from linux os and I read a lot documentations about freebsd. > > I've a doubt: when I've some packages installed and I need upgrade it, I > need to recompile those packages or there's another (fast) way to do this? With the new pkgng (the replacement for the traditional pkg infrastructure that handles precompiled binary packages) this won't be a problem, as long as the default compile options and settings are fine for you. If not, today's PCs have multiple plenticore CPUs with tons of RAM and endless hard disks, so running "portmaster -a" won't be a big deal. :-) On FreeBSD, it's _your_ choice. It's already in The FreeBSD Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/pkgng-intro.html Soon, it will be the system's default. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 14:03:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4196139A for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x233.google.com (mail-la0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE04E16B1 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:03:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f51.google.com with SMTP id fh20so2668466lab.38 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:03:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=raPObSCMs/PCNNIMG5UyMV/lkJU9NDj3DRqXGInrUYI=; b=ndT5lsSxzJILyMlMWMt3njGTZDzlRxwgEEX9zInXe2sWSLFfyrd33uIMtH31H8u7D4 0TIItqa04eMNXo2bAm4bf+WhiYtb7LLYqSXjwtM1UdkTDbdyha4SRMiqfsTpvN083rQF xEFxsMkePPbVvm4iPjXXzlVYJfd7ekCMhChtsJwN9SJFuFc5+C0FDbGShTSnkpAFh3S2 DAEB4rpwwGDkrkY2DBV2tJ3bNtLzFzJQimwePAgoXSGK5XLgE0ngG5LG9w3k4JTI7dew nuF36b4sVzZ0MlDxr/ssjj0DTRFuFcwurSW7b0A010c8gtKtTsYTAJRp1Cae3Fnw11Uj V9Hg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.126.226 with SMTP id nb2mr6865578lbb.38.1366898607584; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.24.234 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:03:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5177E454.3020609@bananmonarki.se> References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> <44mwsow000.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <5177E073.5040308@qeng-ho.org> <44ip3cvygf.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <5177E454.3020609@bananmonarki.se> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:03:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Diskless question From: krad To: Bernt Hansson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Lowell Gilbert , questions FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:03:29 -0000 type id from your user account and paste the results back here On 24 April 2013 14:55, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > > 2013-04-24 15:40, Lowell Gilbert skrev: > > Arthur Chance writes: >> >> On 04/24/13 14:07, Lowell Gilbert wrote: >>> >>> No, that's from /etc/passwd which never shows any real password >>> information. The true password field is in /etc/master.passwd and I'm >>> not going to ask anyone to show that here. However, the OP should >>> check it's got a valid looking field value rather than just a '*' >>> >> >> Oops. Right. >> >> >> Ok this is master.password for root > > root:"a lot of tokens".:0:0::0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh > > ______________________________**_________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-** > unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 14:06:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B21149A for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:06:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532D516E4 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-233.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.233]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1313E472; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:06:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r3PE73w5002037; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:07:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:07:03 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Feenberg Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Message-Id: <20130425160703.d60d328e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130424203430.e127c9a56fe88f968eed6ad5@sohara.org> <20130424213110.c277bd304c00ab64bcac2225@sohara.org> <5178602F.9010805@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20130425063941.126a748686691ce998aa8a07@sohara.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:06:56 -0000 On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:37:01 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Apr 2013, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > > > The problem under discussion is that the kernel version does not > > change when a freebsd-update update does not include a kernel change. > > > > Perhaps we could adopt the Linux practice of placing the release > information in /etc/issue I'd like to see a working placeholder for this file, not a modification, because it could be a "custom file" (created specifically for a system). Or do you perhaps refer to /etc/motd and the update_motd="YES" (update version info in /etc/motd) as seen in /etc/defaults/rc.conf? In /etc/issue, you write something like "%s/%m %r" to print the information before the login prompt. Or you use something like the traditional "im=\r\n%s/%m (%h) (%t)" in /etc/gettytab. Those are placeholders, the information is stored _outside_ of the files. Maybe it could be possible to add a text file in /etc that will contain the correct OS and kernel version number, maybe the date of the source the system has been built from (or the binary package for freebsd-update has been created from), and maybe the SVN revision number, because it looks important. :-) Then, if there could be mechanisms to plug this information properly into the traditional placeholders as described. Uhm... that would be great. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 15:14:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082D7497 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6981ABC for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber7.nber.org (nber7.nber.org [66.251.72.41]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r3PFE8MW050598 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:14:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:14:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: Polytropon Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? In-Reply-To: <20130425160703.d60d328e.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20130424203430.e127c9a56fe88f968eed6ad5@sohara.org> <20130424213110.c277bd304c00ab64bcac2225@sohara.org> <5178602F.9010805@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20130425063941.126a748686691ce998aa8a07@sohara.org> <20130425160703.d60d328e.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.03 (LRH 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20130425 #9893482, check: 20130425 clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:14:16 -0000 On Thu, 25 Apr 2013, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 07:37:01 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Feenberg wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 25 Apr 2013, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >> >>> >>> The problem under discussion is that the kernel version does not >>> change when a freebsd-update update does not include a kernel change. >>> >> >> Perhaps we could adopt the Linux practice of placing the release >> information in /etc/issue > ... > > In /etc/issue, you write something like "%s/%m %r" to print > the information before the login prompt. Or you use something > like the traditional "im=\r\n%s/%m (%h) (%t)" in /etc/gettytab. This is written as though it applies to FreeBSD, but I was under the impression that FreeBSD didn't do anything with /etc/issue. There isn't any man page for it, and when I created a file /etc/issue it wasn't presented at login. Is there something else I need to do? I am using 9.1 Daniel Feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 20:58:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9916404 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm34-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0A71BDA for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:58:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2013 20:58:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.229] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2013 20:58:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1069.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2013 20:58:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 779883.47489.bm@omp1069.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56754 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Apr 2013 20:58:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1366923497; bh=Zmk1Uz+Eb8zx5IwxX4/B7K9x4GseyUf1e4EhaR22ajg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oT3QP1qqwdV3z5nbldV8e+JL0wYubVjcrVHzi0zdV4KI+yxfErX23gDL3qhLDVO4pV1suPwSa44UhimTBtAIBx+HFA0uusvLTq/e8OkXa+3RpGu6V1FiC7SolAFzSHQaUNR5kiv1atNbKHz0yAU9JGWEbj0qKJQQdFhS51bDfSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5tcAOEn30cMkia61gy0Tea2CfEdCtfXy6Ijr9LGvQLO2EnlO1lmeWt4YYMyVU9jYKoOyZLMRke3MY4KIUo7etv2fxnArWPP2HDOmW4jU+TAxSCfKDDVIe+BKslOhCoZxwRDpCnDuBfjIAJQZVxutCyNQ9cm0pkGaNdi7rdZUaWs=; X-YMail-OSG: XceWA9IVM1kUVqoIaewBxTW0iJrCrGsbokkTSzm0TcU3.Df 5BsC.fRGdF3DXogSujhjj Received: from [98.203.44.66] by web165002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:58:17 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, CgogCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogQXJ0aHVyIENoYW5jZSA8ZnJlZWJzZEBxZW5nLWhvLm9yZz4KVG86IEJlcm50IEhhbnNzb24gPGJhaEBiYW5hbm1vbmFya2kuc2U.IApDYzogcXVlc3Rpb25zIEZyZWVCU0QgPEZyZWVCU0QtcXVlc3Rpb25zQGZyZWVic2Qub3JnPiAKU2VudDogV2VkbmVzZGF5LCBBcHJpbCAyNCwgMjAxMyA5OjUyIEFNClN1YmplY3Q6IFJlOiBEaXNrbGVzcyBxdWVzdGlvbgogIApPbiAwNC8yNC8xMyAxMzo0NSwgQmVybnQgSGFuc3NvbiB3cm90ZToBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.141.536 References: <51779573.20207@bananmonarki.se> <5177B43C.8000509@qeng-ho.org> <5177BA0C.5080002@bananmonarki.se> <5177C045.1070900@qeng-ho.org> <5177D3D7.7050905@bananmonarki.se> <5177E389.3030307@qeng-ho.org> Message-ID: <1366923497.6511.YahooMailNeo@web165002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:58:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman Subject: Re: Diskless question To: questions FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <5177E389.3030307@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bill Tillman List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:58:25 -0000 =0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Arthur Chance =0ATo: Bernt Hansson =0ACc: questions = FreeBSD =0ASent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 = 9:52 AM=0ASubject: Re: Diskless question=0A =0AOn 04/24/13 13:45, Bernt Ha= nsson wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A> 2013-04-24 13:21, Arthur Chance skrev:=0A>> On 04/= 24/13 11:55, Bernt Hansson wrote:=0A>>> 2013-04-24 12:30, Arthur Chance skr= ev:=0A>>>> On 04/24/13 09:18, Bernt Hansson wrote:=0A>>>>> Hello list!=0A>>= >>>=0A>>>>> I have set up a diskless machine with 8.3-stable and i as a use= r can=0A>>>>> log=0A>>>>> in, but when I try to log in as root it won't wor= k. How to resolv that=0A>>>>> issue. I have tried with and without password= but the computer said=0A>>>>> no.=0A=0A>>>>=0A>>>> How did it say no? What= does the entry for root in /etc/passwd say?=0A>>>=0A>>> $su=0A>>> Sorry=0A= >>>=0A>>> root:*:0:0:Charlie &:/root:/bin/csh=0A>>=0A>>=0A>> That's not log= ging in directly as root, that's using su as a normal=0A>> user. Only membe= rs of wheel group can use su. Try logging in directly on=0A>> the console a= s root. That should work unless you've marked the console=0A>> as insecure = or have an "impossible" password in /etc/master.passwd.=0A>=0A> I am a memb= er of the wheel group.=0A=0ACurious, I would have expected the su to work. = Time for a quick look at =0Athe source.=0A=0A>> In the long run you need to= add your normal user to wheel group so you=0A>> can use su. Can you edit t= he diskless machine's /etc/group from the=0A>> server that's supplying its = disk(s)? In the days when I ran diskless=0A>> systems I usually found it ea= sier to work on the diskless systems'=0A>> config files via the server.=0A>= >=0A> I have tried and my own password is easily changed via the server.=0A= >=0A> if i try, on the diskless,=0A>=0A> Login: root=0A> Password: password= or none=0A>=0A> Login incorrect=0A=0AAs I mentioned in another post, have = you got a valid looking password =0Afield in /etc/master.passwd or just a '= *'? Valid fields tend to look =0Asomething like $2a$04$ or $6$ wh= ere is a lot of base64 =0Aencoded data.=0A=0ALooking in the source fo= r su there are three places that generate =0A"Sorry". They all send message= s to syslog. Is there a "BAD SU" entry in =0Ayour /var/log/auth.log or a PA= M related error in /var/log/messages =0Aand/or on the console?=0A=0A-- =0AI= n the dungeons of Mordor, Sauron bred Orcs with LOLcats to create a=0Anew r= ace of servants. Called Uruk-Oh-Hai in the Black Speech, they=0Awere cruel = and delighted in torturing spelling and grammar.=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 _= Lord of the Rings 2.0, the Web Edition_=0A_________________________________= ______________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.= freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any m= ail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0AWhen you're edit= ing the /etc/passwd file make sure it's the one in the partition that you s= et for your root for the diskless machine. It could be the same one as the = server but typically another partition is setup as the root for the diskles= s machine(s). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 21:06:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0535E6DE for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:06:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.107.128.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19171C25 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:06:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r3PKfQ6H024952 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:41:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r3PKfQvT024949 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:41:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:41:26 -0400 (EDT) From: doug To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: mouse in alpine Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:41:26 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:06:20 -0000 on (.1 I built alpine with: ===> The following configuration options are available for alpine-2.00_3: THREADS=on: Compile with thread support MOUSE=on: Enable mouse support for xterm NLS=off: National Language Support ISPELL=on: Use ispell instead of aspell as default speller NOSPELL=off: Use no default speller (overrides both) PICO=on: Build and install pico, the default editor IPV6=off: Add support for IPv6 LDAP=off: Add support for LDAP PASSFILE=off: Support for a stored password file (DANGEROUS) CONS25=off: Add a patch to support color for default console QUOTA=off: Add a patch for disk quota checking on IMAP MAILDIR=on: Add a patch for maildir support mouse in xterm works fine but not in pine. My mentor has Xorg installed, so his system is not useful as a pattern to follow. I have an older version working. That system has some X libs installed. I have .ssh/config and all that stuff configured. At least on 7.4 alpine seems to require some further support. Hopefully someone can tell me what I am missing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 21:44:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C189E for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:44:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [204.107.128.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE4D1DD7 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r3PLTmMQ078110 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:29:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:29:48 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mouse in alpine Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:29:48 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 21:44:48 -0000 On Thu, 25 Apr 2013, doug wrote: > on (.1 I built alpine with: > > ===> The following configuration options are available for alpine-2.00_3: > THREADS=on: Compile with thread support > MOUSE=on: Enable mouse support for xterm > NLS=off: National Language Support > ISPELL=on: Use ispell instead of aspell as default speller > NOSPELL=off: Use no default speller (overrides both) > PICO=on: Build and install pico, the default editor > IPV6=off: Add support for IPv6 > LDAP=off: Add support for LDAP > PASSFILE=off: Support for a stored password file (DANGEROUS) > CONS25=off: Add a patch to support color for default console > QUOTA=off: Add a patch for disk quota checking on IMAP > MAILDIR=on: Add a patch for maildir support > > mouse in xterm works fine but not in pine. My mentor has Xorg installed, so > his system is not useful as a pattern to follow. I have an older version > working. That system has some X libs installed. I have .ssh/config and all > that stuff configured. At least on 7.4 alpine seems to require some further > support. Hopefully someone can tell me what I am missing. Not sure what happend to this post but I solved my own problem. 1) .ssh/config must have a Host statement. Both 'Host *.*' and 'Host ' work 2) setenv DISPLAY :0 to .cshrc _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 26 02:38:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC013C3D for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 02:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8422416D8 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 02:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-26-233.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.26.233]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D857E2760D; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 04:38:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r3Q2cpar001933; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 04:38:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 04:38:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Feenberg Subject: Re: FreeBSD-update? Message-Id: <20130426043851.f7727bce.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20130424203430.e127c9a56fe88f968eed6ad5@sohara.org> <20130424213110.c277bd304c00ab64bcac2225@sohara.org> <5178602F.9010805@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20130425063941.126a748686691ce998aa8a07@sohara.org> <20130425160703.d60d328e.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 02:38:50 -0000 On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 11:14:06 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Feenberg wrote: > This is written as though it applies to FreeBSD, but I was > under the impression that FreeBSD didn't do anything with > /etc/issue. It actually works quite well, I'm using it for decades. :-) You just need to add the item "if=/etc/issue" to your default setting (or whichever you use) in /etc/gettytab. > There isn't any man page for it, and when I > created a file /etc/issue it wasn't presented at login. See "man gettytab": if str unused display named file before prompt, like /etc/issue This is not part of the default configuration. > Is > there something else I need to do? I am using 9.1 Just change your /etc/gettytab to something like this: default:\ :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im= :sp#1200:\ :if=/etc/issue: The system's default setting is like this: default:\ :cb:ce:ck:lc:fd#1000:im=\r\n%s/%m (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\n:sp#1200:\ There is no issue file defined. The im= setting contains (additional) text presented directly before the text "login:" appears. It could be the hostname or any other identification. In this file, as well as in /etc/issue, you can use the following placeholders: OS name: %s FreeBSD architecture: %m i386 OS version: %r 8.3 hostname: %h foo.example.com terminal line: %t ttyv1 date: %d Fri Apr 26 04:37:00 CEST 2013 They are also listed in "man gettytab". Also know the "figlet" program (plus the figlet-fonts package) to design nice ASCII banners. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 26 15:19:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63803A69 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-qa0-x234.google.com (mail-qa0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263061ED3 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id hg5so236242qab.18 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:19:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=dE2BaTE+VadNLvG2Fj9C7YhuHsmIVe9T4FVW16uOdAs=; b=nfRUS2eTlAnPRZq95gLcw1GhbETlmUlCNuqJVlqhXvP4nXq5gUREc/g1IkqPl/iotK jUVUxwC6kHBxqwOCqIRq1vB2NKqyd5a/eQ1e2NkPttS756z4dTOnDpmWEp38CPnH5OWy 2YloYNChBTD9sTjDpPq2+qwzhz2nxXoyMzDbo84GW6j+QHDpESENhqCclrrmr/R1LNYe jtOkZmSM2D4hYEfWWq2/Syg+aZ7Ae9p9x+KcEEJ9KaKcuBQNWP+vtNE3gGpxBJoCD4A4 qURICZ9OfgQXEJkOUPh/bjuILPKI25v4boVHJky5tAEVrrbe2auFNbjb1N0P0Iz/9HnZ IDsQ== X-Received: by 10.224.180.206 with SMTP id bv14mr40587448qab.56.1366989549573; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mbp1.kraus-haus.org (mail.thecreativeadvantage.com. [96.236.16.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m8sm17541935qav.8.2013.04.26.08.19.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 9.1 Postfix problem Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <44a9oxtfqv.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 11:19:07 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <30C9C6FB-25A3-4DEB-882B-C8E01CE3DB49@kraus-haus.org> References: <459A07BB-BAD9-413D-83BA-D66BA04744B1@kraus-haus.org> <44a9oxtfqv.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> To: Lowell Gilbert X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm6FyLEfKMwcnRGozMNBmBG8nySr2BWlZGu8MgyeUKkRPF9kSiyPVdHRWStdVTSDJ4WXJOh Cc: bapt@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List" , jgh@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:19:10 -0000 On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Lowell Gilbert = wrote: > Paul Kraus writes: >=20 >> When building postfix under 91. I am running into an odd >> problem. I use the INST_BASE option, which seems to cause the problem >> (it worked fine with 9.0). The 'make' goes fine, but the 'make >> install' fails when trying to install the startup script to >> /usr/etc/rc.d instead of /etc/rc.d. It works fine if INST-BASE is >> disabled. I looked through the Makefile but could not suss out how >> that difference in configuration was actually causing the problem. >>=20 >> Has anyone else run into this problem and what was the fix (or = did you just install into /usr/local) ? >=20 > I use /usr/local, but this seems to be a typo in the last checkin,=20 > which changed the internal names of the port options to our brave new > naming scheme.=20 >=20 > If you look in the Makefile clause for installing to base, renaming = the > option itself went correctly, but both halves of the '.if' now invoke > USE_RC_SUBR. That's correct for PREFIX, but for installing into base > should be USE_RCORDER instead. Lowell, That was exactly the problem. I knew it was in the installation = configuration *somewhere*, but I just could not find it. Thanks. Should I report this as a bug in the postfix port ? -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 26 15:55:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3DD6F8 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:55:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from mbox2.ezo.net (mbox2.ezo.net [69.36.15.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D56102D for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ezo.net (localhost.ezo.net [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2.ezo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F344628794 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 11:51:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "jflowers" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail 8.14.5/8.14.5 on fbsd-9.1R (EC2) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 11:51:03 -0400 Message-Id: <20130426153728.M27769@ezo.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 108.90.92.209 (jflowers@ezo.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:55:27 -0000 All I want to do is have the MTA listen on 127.0.0.1 port 1025 and have no sendmail process listen on the server interface. That's being done by assp which proxies messages to 127.0.0.1:1025. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out how to turn off the default. Sockstat shows: root sendmail 1672 4 tcp4 *:25 *:* root sendmail 1672 5 tcp6 *:25 *:* root sendmail 1672 6 tcp4 127.0.0.1:1025 *:* root sendmail 1672 7 tcp4 111.222.333.444:587 *:* The relevant mc entries are: DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv4, Family=inet') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv6, Family=inet6, Modifiers=O') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=1025, Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA') VIRTUSER_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/virtual-domains') FEATURE(`no_default_msa') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=587, Addr= 111.222.333.444, Name=MSA, M=E') The MSA isn't strictly necessary now but I thought might have a future use. So, what am I missing? How do I turn *:25 off so that when assp goes down (as it frequently does) I'm not running an open relay (all user/domain validation is done in assp). Any pointers in the right direction appreciated. Thanks -- Jim Flowers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 26 16:23:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9EA988 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5261155 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UVlR6-0001Bp-7u for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:23:48 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:23:48 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:23:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Clean up /sys/obj? Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 4 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:23:52 -0000 After compiling the kernel, there are a large number of files in /sys/ obj. Are these still needed after the new kernel has been installed? Is there some sort of 'make clean' option available? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 26 16:27:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C93FA67; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (be-well.ilk.org [23.30.133.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536A11177; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.41]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F1033C2A; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:27:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7A1DE39829; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:27:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Paul Kraus Subject: Re: 9.1 Postfix problem References: <459A07BB-BAD9-413D-83BA-D66BA04744B1@kraus-haus.org> <44a9oxtfqv.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <30C9C6FB-25A3-4DEB-882B-C8E01CE3DB49@kraus-haus.org> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:27:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: <30C9C6FB-25A3-4DEB-882B-C8E01CE3DB49@kraus-haus.org> (Paul Kraus's message of "Fri, 26 Apr 2013 11:19:07 -0400") Message-ID: <44ip39xnol.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: bapt@freebsd.org, sahil@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List" , jgh@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:27:18 -0000 Paul Kraus writes: > That was exactly the problem. I knew it was in the > installation configuration *somewhere*, but I just could not find > it. Thanks. > > Should I report this as a bug in the postfix port ? No need. Looks like sahil@ has already fixed it. Be well. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 26 16:54:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6AA845 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:54:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: from smtp2.bway.net (smtp2.bway.net [216.220.96.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D04512A1 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gecko3.bs.net (host-216-220-115-168.dsl.bway.net [216.220.115.168]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: m1316v@bway.net) by smtp2.bway.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E5CC9586D; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:46:16 -0400 (EDT) From: mrkvrg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Clean up /sys/obj? Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:46:13 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/9.0-RELEASE-p6; KDE/4.10.1; i386; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201304261246.13440.mrkvrg@acm.org> Cc: Walter Hurry X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: mrkvrg@acm.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:54:09 -0000 Hello Walter, Perhaps 'make cleanworld' will help. Check out comments in /usr/src/Makefile for details. Cheers ... Marek On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:23:37 Walter Hurry wrote: > After compiling the kernel, there are a large number of files in /sys/ > obj. Are these still needed after the new kernel has been installed? > > Is there some sort of 'make clean' option available? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 26 18:02:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B710C292 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A2C1649 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UVmyy-00048m-Jw for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:02:52 +0200 Received: from cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.21.186.149]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:02:52 +0200 Received: from walterhurry by cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:02:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Walter Hurry Subject: Re: Clean up /sys/obj? Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <201304261246.13440.mrkvrg@acm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc3-walt15-2-0-cust148.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:02:57 -0000 On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:46:13 -0400, mrkvrg wrote: > Hello Walter, > > Perhaps 'make cleanworld' will help. > > Check out comments in /usr/src/Makefile for details. > > Cheers ... > > Marek > > On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:23:37 Walter Hurry wrote: >> After compiling the kernel, there are a large number of files in /sys/ >> obj. Are these still needed after the new kernel has been installed? >> >> Is there some sort of 'make clean' option available? That's the one. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 26 21:06:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C6C560 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from russo@bogodyn.org) Received: from bogodyn.org (mail.bogodyn.org [69.49.164.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855201DB5 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bogodyn.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bogodyn.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r3QKsxx8060634; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:54:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from russo@bogodyn.org) Received: (from russo@localhost) by bogodyn.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r3QKsxNg060633; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:54:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from russo) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:54:59 -0600 From: Tom Russo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Why is "pkg_glob" no longer working for me? Message-ID: <20130426205459.GA60584@bogodyn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: International Institute for Advanced Quantum Bogodynamical Studies User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on bogodyn.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: russo@bogodyn.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:06:24 -0000 I used to be able to run "pkg_glob" to see what packages have been updated since a given date. For example, if I do a big 'portupgrade -fr somepackage' and wait overnight, then in the morning find a handful had failed, I often find it helpful to do something like: pkg_glob -r somepackage -x '>= 2013-04-24' to see what packages depend on somepackage but weren't updated when I did the portupgrade on the 24th. But now, I find that pkg_glob always returns absolutely nothing if I specify a date. I did a portupgrade -a on Thursday the 25th of April, and when I try to see which ports actually got updated with "pkg_glob '>=2013-04-24'", it prints nothing. This has been happening for a few weeks, at least, and I wonder an update to the portupgrade package busted it. I have tried rebuilding the package db and ports db using pkgdb and portsdb, with no change in behavior. I tried looking at /var/db/pkg to see if the modification times of directories there might help me answer my question, but far more directories have been touched than packages actually updated (there were, as I recall, 20 pending package upgrades when I started the process). Anyone else have this issue? Or am I the only one left still using portupgrade and its associated tools? -- Tom Russo KM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/ Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z] [n-z][a-m] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 03:12:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A552EBB2 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f43.google.com (mail-pa0-f43.google.com [209.85.220.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85ACC1A99 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id hz1so2838255pad.16 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:12:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=z4nCvSB0CfHYsEPIjwInOei7cAg0fE9d+AA0xkqTI04=; b=j6o9COSit38sffsTYKP4MLEQ/HGa6opEEKXCpHaBLBW0iXaFWom1SX8bEGzU6SaKW1 f/lofhRZUvXroeweJ/ISCNhuzpgd85iRsq5rXtJMHXxGTsUeRwrjHYOD8hY56/yc15G3 CDbnVBJ42dKTG9MX99Oa/OazopcDvg6uIksWHgN2v6Vj+djDRcGfkTXwnPnewddeIWKl l9DoYDZmNkVVcuiQ7rxUteemgIxEhamWTyjqTqFHo9U1BTjolv/7j3EgdfITFs8IMebP 5h/5Wg5/nAubvFEPrts6tZbw6FIeZc871Q2rHTeq6vm+ZEfEMDjxW4mqcstiZyN5RKaQ l1Bw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.179.35 with SMTP id dd3mr10867026pbc.197.1367032376651; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.222.200 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:12:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130426205459.GA60584@bogodyn.org> References: <20130426205459.GA60584@bogodyn.org> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:12:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why is "pkg_glob" no longer working for me? From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: russo@bogodyn.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:12:57 -0000 OK But modulo CH3CH2OH You need to learn the neue pkg system & how it differez On 26 April 2013 16:54, Tom Russo wrote: > I used to be able to run "pkg_glob" to see what packages have been updated > since a given date. For example, if I do a big 'portupgrade -fr > somepackage' > and wait overnight, then in the morning find a handful had failed, I often > find it helpful to do something like: > > pkg_glob -r somepackage -x '>= 2013-04-24' > > to see what packages depend on somepackage but weren't updated when I did > the portupgrade on the 24th. > > But now, I find that pkg_glob always returns absolutely nothing if I > specify > a date. I did a portupgrade -a on Thursday the 25th of April, and when I > try > to see which ports actually got updated with "pkg_glob '>=2013-04-24'", it > prints nothing. > > This has been happening for a few weeks, at least, and I wonder > an update to the portupgrade package busted it. > > I have tried rebuilding the package db and ports db using pkgdb and > portsdb, > with no change in behavior. > > I tried looking at /var/db/pkg to see if the modification times of > directories > there might help me answer my question, but far more directories have been > touched than packages actually updated (there were, as I recall, 20 pending > package upgrades when I started the process). > > Anyone else have this issue? Or am I the only one left still using > portupgrade > and its associated tools? > > -- > Tom Russo KM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/ > Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 > http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM > echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z] > [n-z][a-m] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 03:18:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944AEC92 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:18:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com (mail-pa0-f46.google.com [209.85.220.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749D81AC4 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id ld11so505485pab.19 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:18:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tZs7UW7NESKJKswHNjLE5PEx0KKHpiT09CBTrcbUfZw=; b=q8rOuAGmG6YGJlnKmVnA6NXJPGaR7EkXeUQfEHmzpkcpIj68AvuDtVyAN79GAJmLEe buY50VKYbg0C2I4BRo15tiTga1PpiNFDT3Fs5iRcRqdtAPzkix1yO6UlVxmKkzmupHrq lffS5dfQuKvp7DELcwJcaWyhril7r9vNokFaaWjX2Q63bS87ZZax/kfp9S7BF9GOY34v JvXEDjr0DP5390QkJf7DOzLY7K3s5ghLvp77kSc8AXVyIgiUOrSh2S7x83VIZu02Gv4r DlB/d34ky4U56kwq55KJb+f5tJAOBOcF0v9ZkYJs1qloUdvZ9egfArodY/tbc74dyiGy P4AQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.8.69 with SMTP id p5mr37483470paa.57.1367032685190; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.222.200 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 20:18:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201304261246.13440.mrkvrg@acm.org> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:18:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Clean up /sys/obj? From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Walter Hurry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 03:18:11 -0000 On 26 April 2013 14:02, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:46:13 -0400, mrkvrg wrote: > > > Hello Walter, > > > > Perhaps 'make cleanworld' will help. > > > > Check out comments in /usr/src/Makefile for details. > > > > Cheers ... > > > > Marek > > > > On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:23:37 Walter Hurry wrote: > >> After compiling the kernel, there are a large number of files in /sys/ > >> obj. Are these still needed after the new kernel has been installed? > >> > >> Is there some sort of 'make clean' option available? > > That's the one. Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > No, /usr/sys is not required subsequent to make intallwolrd oder kernelk -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 08:39:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACBC319 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F08212EB for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r3R8dk4a020314 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 09:39:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r3R8dk4a020314 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1367051986; bh=3oxNIipW6cMlIwQey7ZVxHVLNBqy1gZ4Aizy9xDV3kQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; z=Date:=20Sat,=2027=20Apr=202013=2009:39:46=20+0100|From:=20Matthew =20Seaman=20|To:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Sendmail=20=208.14.5/8.14.5=20on= 20fbsd-9.1R=20(EC2)|References:=20<20130426153728.M27769@ezo.net>| In-Reply-To:=20<20130426153728.M27769@ezo.net>; b=C/9nwe+qzrnW5M6CiNqBmwBkVCmwxACOjRXdemnXLAoYnH/ix3x6i82Da74Ah0eMT Slioq/TgPESA+nucQ47r7622Gss9urTvoS4mBh5nPXdbLa26yvNEfzkQI/yAuEHsWU p9OCRSQEgIzWQLYcVXAOiuXn3CpSOl0u2a5XQtQ4= Message-ID: <517B8ED2.3060103@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 09:39:46 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.14.5/8.14.5 on fbsd-9.1R (EC2) References: <20130426153728.M27769@ezo.net> In-Reply-To: <20130426153728.M27769@ezo.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2GHDKERQQKKTSNDKPJIRW" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:39:50 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2GHDKERQQKKTSNDKPJIRW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26/04/2013 16:51, jflowers wrote: > All I want to do is have the MTA listen on 127.0.0.1 port 1025 and have= no > sendmail process listen on the server interface. That's being done by = assp > which proxies messages to 127.0.0.1:1025. Unfortunately, I haven't bee= n able > to figure out how to turn off the default. Sockstat shows: >=20 > root sendmail 1672 4 tcp4 *:25 *:* > root sendmail 1672 5 tcp6 *:25 *:* > root sendmail 1672 6 tcp4 127.0.0.1:1025 *:* > root sendmail 1672 7 tcp4 111.222.333.444:587 *:* >=20 > The relevant mc entries are: >=20 > DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=3DIPv4, Family=3Dinet') > DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=3DIPv6, Family=3Dinet6, Modifiers=3DO') > DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=3D1025, Addr=3D127.0.0.1, Name=3DMTA') > VIRTUSER_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/virtual-domains') > FEATURE(`no_default_msa') > DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=3D587, Addr=3D 111.222.333.444, Name=3DMSA, M=3DE'= ) >=20 > The MSA isn't strictly necessary now but I thought might have a future = use. >=20 > So, what am I missing? How do I turn *:25 off so that when assp goes d= own (as > it frequently does) I'm not running an open relay (all user/domain vali= dation > is done in assp). >=20 > Any pointers in the right direction appreciated. You pretty much already have the answer already. Add 'Addr=3D127.0.0.1' or 'Addr=3D::1' clauses to your first two DAEMON_OPTIONS lines. That wil= l limit sendmail to listening on port 25 only on the loopback interface. Or indeed, remove those two lines entirely to leave sendmail only listening on port 587. This should not prevent sendmail from sending outgoing messages, but will prevent any incoming. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk ------enig2GHDKERQQKKTSNDKPJIRW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlF7jtIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwrMQCeOOs7vt2y6OvMv4DrsC0nA/XT WgYAoIQIltHNIEO5J40DTkTCHCeFqB8d =estq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2GHDKERQQKKTSNDKPJIRW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 13:31:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C3A855 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:31:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@chthonixia.net) Received: from www5.pairlite.com (www5.pairlite.com [64.130.10.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DAB1AD4 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from whisperer.chthonixia.net (unknown [184.152.30.105]) by www5.pairlite.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5104A2E2BD for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 09:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 09:31:51 -0400 From: Joe Altman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is "pkg_glob" no longer working for me? Message-ID: <20130427133151.GA84789@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <20130426205459.GA60584@bogodyn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130426205459.GA60584@bogodyn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:31:18 -0000 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 02:54:59PM -0600, Tom Russo wrote: > > Anyone else have this issue? Or am I the only one left still using > portupgrade and its associated tools? I use portupgrade and have noticed no failures. I have never used pkg_glob so I cannot address that. I have used portupgrade as you, for many ports, and have always seen failures printed to my terminal at the end of the mass upgrade with an alert to that effect; just like for a single port. It seems that you are not seeing that report? Best regards, Joe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 13:43:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566E8A88 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:43:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226201B1F for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:43:27 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=CeKKFcXl c=1 sm=0 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:17 a=AyALB9QYHmsA:10 a=AaUjGI9IrlcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OA2lqS22AAAA:8 a=sIt-5M63AAAA:8 a=tE4x7Ltv8wMA:10 a=-D6herI_Z-wA:10 a=RsyooABv7vmNe5pDaLsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 209.6.193.164 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of rcn.com) Received: from [209.6.193.164] ([209.6.193.164:21240] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id 8A/62-09205-7F5DB715; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 09:43:21 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20859.54772.851637.835802@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 09:43:16 -0400 To: Joe Altman Subject: Re: Why is "pkg_glob" no longer working for me? In-Reply-To: <20130427133151.GA84789@whisperer.chthonixia.net> References: <20130426205459.GA60584@bogodyn.org> <20130427133151.GA84789@whisperer.chthonixia.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:43:28 -0000 Joe Altman writes: > > Anyone else have this issue? Or am I the only one left still using > > portupgrade and its associated tools? > > I use portupgrade and have noticed no failures. I use portupgrade for two features: portsclean (for which there is probably a pkgng replacement, I just haven't bothered to check) and pkg_sort (for which there is no alternative) which is necessary for certain scripts. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 15:15:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DD2E9 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E531DBA for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r3RFFKEU026038 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:15:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r3RFFKEU026038 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r3RFFKEU026038; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) Message-ID: <517BEB81.5010404@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:15:13 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is "pkg_glob" no longer working for me? References: <20130426205459.GA60584@bogodyn.org> <20130427133151.GA84789@whisperer.chthonixia.net> <20859.54772.851637.835802@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <20859.54772.851637.835802@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2ADKLLGXEBICOOFCTMONC" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:15:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2ADKLLGXEBICOOFCTMONC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27/04/2013 14:43, Robert Huff wrote: > I use portupgrade for two features: portsclean (for which there > is probably a pkgng replacement, I just haven't bothered to check) > and pkg_sort (for which there is no alternative) which is necessary > for certain scripts. Well, given that pkgng is a binary package management system, it achieves the required aim of keeping the ports tree nice and clean by the simple expedient of not downloading distfiles or using the ports to compile them. No mess created means none to be cleared up. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey ------enig2ADKLLGXEBICOOFCTMONC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlF764cACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwitQCeNrsXrEQr9RJvdpjd0WIg1K/p yDIAnjYxF5xagHz3Ma/C/vyrxoA77MF2 =n7od -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2ADKLLGXEBICOOFCTMONC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 15:23:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F5529C for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C00FE1DE8 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:23:04 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Ls0QOwhc c=1 sm=0 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:17 a=AyALB9QYHmsA:10 a=AaUjGI9IrlcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=OA2lqS22AAAA:8 a=sIt-5M63AAAA:8 a=tE4x7Ltv8wMA:10 a=-D6herI_Z-wA:10 a=FeDl2cRFWVncI6JqrJ0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 209.6.193.164 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of rcn.com) Received: from [209.6.193.164] ([209.6.193.164:29371] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id 77/FF-27962-75DEB715; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:23:03 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20859.60758.717521.721560@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:23:02 -0400 To: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: Why is "pkg_glob" no longer working for me? In-Reply-To: <517BEB81.5010404@FreeBSD.org> References: <20130426205459.GA60584@bogodyn.org> <20130427133151.GA84789@whisperer.chthonixia.net> <20859.54772.851637.835802@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <517BEB81.5010404@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:23:05 -0000 Matthew Seaman writes: > > I use portupgrade for two features: portsclean (for which there > > is probably a pkgng replacement, I just haven't bothered to check) > > and pkg_sort (for which there is no alternative) which is necessary > > for certain scripts. > > Well, given that pkgng is a binary package management system, it > achieves the required aim of keeping the ports tree nice and clean by > the simple expedient of not downloading distfiles or using the ports to > compile them. No mess created means none to be cleared up. Except it's not exclusively for binary packages. :-) Portsclean's 'L' option also cleans out un-needed libraries. Which shouldn't be necessary ... but too often is. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 15:27:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43879383 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from mbox2.ezo.net (mbox2.ezo.net [69.36.15.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FAE1E10 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ezo.net (localhost.ezo.net [127.0.0.1]) by mbox2.ezo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A067A287F6 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:27:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "jflowers" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail 8.14.5/8.14.5 on fbsd-9.1R (EC2) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 11:27:45 -0400 Message-Id: <20130427152745.M44730@ezo.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 108.90.92.209 (jflowers@ezo.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:27:03 -0000 >DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv4, Family=inet') >DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv6, Family=inet6, Modifiers=O') >DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=1025, Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA') >VIRTUSER_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/virtual-domains') >FEATURE(`no_default_msa') >DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=587, Addr= 111.222.333.444, Name=MSA, M=E') > Thanks Matthew. Your second suggestion solved it for me. No default and I still have sendmail listening on port 1025 so it's just what I wanted. 'Wish I understood everything I know about that.' -- Jim Flowers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 15:29:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C77500 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Received: from btw.pki2.com (btw.pki2.com [IPv6:2001:470:a:6fd::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CA21E25 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by btw.pki2.com (8.14.6/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3RFT42d091239 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:29:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pki2.com) Subject: SMP boot differences between 8.4 and 9.1? From: Dennis Glatting To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 08:29:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1367076544.10478.8.camel@btw.pki2.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Dennis Glatting X-yoursite-MailScanner-ID: r3RFT42d091239 X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: freebsd@pki2.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:29:15 -0000 I have two four socket Opteron 6200 motherboards with populated 16-core Opteron 6200 series processors. Onw is Tyan (below) and the other Supermicro. When booted under 8.4 only two sockets are recognized but four under 9.1. Is this expected behavior? dmesg from 8.4: mc# cat /var/run/dmesg.boot Copyright (c) 1992-2013 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 8.4-PRERELEASE #0 r249529: Mon Apr 15 19:26:38 PDT 2013 root@mc:/disk-2/obj/disk-1/src/sys/SMUNI.RELENG_8 amd64 gcc version 4.2.1 20070831 patched [FreeBSD] Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: AMD Opteron(TM) Processor 6274 (2200.04-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x600f12 Family = 15 Model = 1 Stepping = 2 Features=0x178bfbff Features2=0x1e98220b AMD Features=0x2e500800 AMD Features2=0x1c9bfff,> TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 137438953472 (131072 MB) avail memory = 132427870208 (126293 MB) ACPI APIC Table: <120911 APIC1027> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 32 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 2 package(s) x 16 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 32 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 33 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 34 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 35 cpu4 (AP): APIC ID: 36 cpu5 (AP): APIC ID: 37 cpu6 (AP): APIC ID: 38 cpu7 (AP): APIC ID: 39 cpu8 (AP): APIC ID: 40 cpu9 (AP): APIC ID: 41 cpu10 (AP): APIC ID: 42 cpu11 (AP): APIC ID: 43 cpu12 (AP): APIC ID: 44 cpu13 (AP): APIC ID: 45 cpu14 (AP): APIC ID: 46 cpu15 (AP): APIC ID: 47 cpu16 (AP): APIC ID: 64 cpu17 (AP): APIC ID: 65 cpu18 (AP): APIC ID: 66 cpu19 (AP): APIC ID: 67 cpu20 (AP): APIC ID: 68 cpu21 (AP): APIC ID: 69 cpu22 (AP): APIC ID: 70 cpu23 (AP): APIC ID: 71 cpu24 (AP): APIC ID: 72 cpu25 (AP): APIC ID: 73 cpu26 (AP): APIC ID: 74 cpu27 (AP): APIC ID: 75 cpu28 (AP): APIC ID: 76 cpu29 (AP): APIC ID: 77 cpu30 (AP): APIC ID: 78 cpu31 (AP): APIC ID: 79 cpu (AP): APIC ID: 96 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 97 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 98 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 99 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 100 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 101 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 102 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 103 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 104 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 105 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 106 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 107 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 108 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 109 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 110 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 111 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 128 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 129 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 130 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 131 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 132 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 133 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 134 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 135 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 136 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 137 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 138 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 139 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 140 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 141 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 142 (disabled) cpu (AP): APIC ID: 143 (disabled) ACPI Warning: Optional field Pm2ControlBlock has zero address or length: 0x0000000000000000/0x1 (20101013/tbfadt-655) ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 24-55 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 cryptosoft0: on motherboard aesni0: on motherboard acpi0: <120911 XSDT1027> on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of fec00000, 1000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of fee00000, 1000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of ffb80000, 80000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of fec10000, 20 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, dff00000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 cpu4: on acpi0 cpu5: on acpi0 cpu6: on acpi0 cpu7: on acpi0 cpu8: on acpi0 cpu9: on acpi0 cpu10: on acpi0 cpu11: on acpi0 cpu12: on acpi0 cpu13: on acpi0 cpu14: on acpi0 cpu15: on acpi0 cpu16: on acpi0 cpu17: on acpi0 cpu18: on acpi0 cpu19: on acpi0 cpu20: on acpi0 cpu21: on acpi0 cpu22: on acpi0 cpu23: on acpi0 cpu24: on acpi0 cpu25: on acpi0 cpu26: on acpi0 cpu27: on acpi0 cpu28: on acpi0 cpu29: on acpi0 cpu30: on acpi0 cpu31: on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: at device 0.2 (no driver attached) pcib1: irq 52 at device 4.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib1 igb0: port 0xe400-0xe41f mem 0xfeb60000-0xfeb7ffff,0xfeb40000-0xfeb5ffff,0xfeb1c000-0xfeb1ffff irq 44 at device 0.0 on pci5 igb0: Using MSIX interrupts with 9 vectors igb0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:c8:ee:8a igb0: [ITHREAD] igb0: Bound queue 0 to cpu 0 igb0: [ITHREAD] igb0: Bound queue 1 to cpu 1 igb0: [ITHREAD] igb0: Bound queue 2 to cpu 2 igb0: [ITHREAD] igb0: Bound queue 3 to cpu 3 igb0: [ITHREAD] igb0: Bound queue 4 to cpu 4 igb0: [ITHREAD] igb0: Bound queue 5 to cpu 5 igb0: [ITHREAD] igb0: Bound queue 6 to cpu 6 igb0: [ITHREAD] igb0: Bound queue 7 to cpu 7 igb0: [ITHREAD] igb1: port 0xe800-0xe81f mem 0xfebe0000-0xfebfffff,0xfebc0000-0xfebdffff,0xfeb9c000-0xfeb9ffff irq 45 at device 0.1 on pci5 igb1: Using MSIX interrupts with 9 vectors igb1: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:c8:ee:8b igb1: [ITHREAD] igb1: Bound queue 0 to cpu 8 igb1: [ITHREAD] igb1: Bound queue 1 to cpu 9 igb1: [ITHREAD] igb1: Bound queue 2 to cpu 10 igb1: [ITHREAD] igb1: Bound queue 3 to cpu 11 igb1: [ITHREAD] igb1: Bound queue 4 to cpu 12 igb1: [ITHREAD] igb1: Bound queue 5 to cpu 13 igb1: [ITHREAD] igb1: Bound queue 6 to cpu 14 igb1: [ITHREAD] igb1: Bound queue 7 to cpu 15 igb1: [ITHREAD] pcib2: irq 53 at device 9.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib2 em0: port 0xd800-0xd81f mem 0xfeae0000-0xfeafffff,0xfeadc000-0xfeadffff irq 48 at device 0.0 on pci4 em0: Using MSIX interrupts with 3 vectors em0: [ITHREAD] em0: [ITHREAD] em0: [ITHREAD] em0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:81:c8:ee:ff pcib3: irq 54 at device 11.0 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 mps0: port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem 0xfe93c000-0xfe93ffff,0xfe940000-0xfe97ffff irq 32 at device 0.0 on pci3 mps0: Firmware: 15.00.00.00, Driver: 14.00.00.01-fbsd mps0: IOCCapabilities: 1285c mps0: [ITHREAD] pcib4: irq 54 at device 13.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib4 mps1: port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xfe83c000-0xfe83ffff,0xfe840000-0xfe87ffff irq 40 at device 0.0 on pci2 mps1: Firmware: 15.00.00.00, Driver: 14.00.00.01-fbsd mps1: IOCCapabilities: 185c mps1: [ITHREAD] ahci0: port 0x9000-0x9007,0x8000-0x8003,0x7000-0x7007,0x6000-0x6003,0x5000-0x500f mem 0xfdefe400-0xfdefe7ff irq 22 at device 17.0 on pci0 ahci0: [ITHREAD] ahci0: AHCI v1.10 with 4 3Gbps ports, Port Multiplier supported ahcich0: at channel 0 on ahci0 ahcich0: [ITHREAD] ahcich1: at channel 1 on ahci0 ahcich1: [ITHREAD] ahcich2: at channel 2 on ahci0 ahcich2: [ITHREAD] ahcich3: at channel 3 on ahci0 ahcich3: [ITHREAD] ohci0: mem 0xfdefa000-0xfdefafff irq 16 at device 18.0 on pci0 ohci0: [ITHREAD] usbus0 on ohci0 ohci1: mem 0xfdefb000-0xfdefbfff irq 16 at device 18.1 on pci0 ohci1: [ITHREAD] usbus1 on ohci1 ehci0: mem 0xfdefe800-0xfdefe8ff irq 17 at device 18.2 on pci0 ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus2: EHCI version 1.0 usbus2 on ehci0 ohci2: mem 0xfdefc000-0xfdefcfff irq 18 at device 19.0 on pci0 ohci2: [ITHREAD] usbus3 on ohci2 ohci3: mem 0xfdefd000-0xfdefdfff irq 18 at device 19.1 on pci0 ohci3: [ITHREAD] usbus4 on ohci3 ehci1: mem 0xfdefec00-0xfdefecff irq 19 at device 19.2 on pci0 ehci1: [ITHREAD] usbus5: EHCI version 1.0 usbus5 on ehci1 pci0: at device 20.0 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xff00-0xff0f at device 20.1 on pci0 ata0: at channel 0 on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: at channel 1 on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] isab0: at device 20.3 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pcib5: at device 20.4 on pci0 pci1: on pcib5 vgapci0: port 0xa800-0xa87f mem 0xfe000000-0xfe7fffff,0xfdfe0000-0xfdffffff irq 23 at device 9.0 on pci1 ohci4: mem 0xfdeff000-0xfdefffff irq 18 at device 20.5 on pci0 ohci4: [ITHREAD] usbus6 on ohci4 acpi_button0: on acpi0 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on acpi0 uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 uart0: [FILTER] uart1: port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 uart1: [FILTER] ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: [ITHREAD] ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 plip0: [ITHREAD] lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: [ITHREAD] lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 acpi_hpet1: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 device_attach: acpi_hpet1 attach returned 12 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: CGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3d0-0x3db iomem 0xb8000-0xbffff on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] acpi_throttle0: on cpu0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 usbus3: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus4: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus5: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 usbus6: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on usbus2 ugen3.1: at usbus3 uhub3: on usbus3 ugen4.1: at usbus4 uhub4: on usbus4 ugen5.1: at usbus5 uhub5: on usbus5 ugen6.1: at usbus6 uhub6: on usbus6 uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered uhub3: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered uhub4: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered (probe255:mps1:0:0:0): REPORT LUNS. CDB: a0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 (probe255:mps1:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe255:mps1:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe255:mps1:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST info?:20b18d csi:8c,4c,3,c0 asc:20,0 (Invalid command operation code) (probe255:mps1:0:0:0): REPORT LUNS. CDB: a0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 (probe255:mps1:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe255:mps1:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe255:mps1:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST info?:14203334 csi:33,35,38,39 asc:20,0 (Invalid command operation code) field replaceable unit: 38 da0 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 3 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da0: 600.000MB/s transfers da0: Command Queueing enabled da0: 244198MB (500118192 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 31130C) da1 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 5 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da1: 600.000MB/s transfers da1: Command Queueing enabled da1: 238475MB (488397168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 30401C) da6 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 11 lun 0 da6: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da6: 600.000MB/s transfers da6: Command Queueing enabled da6: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 364801C) da8 at mps1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 da8: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da8: 150.000MB/s transfers da8: Command Queueing enabled da8: 68664MB (140623872 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8753C) da7 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 12 lun 0 da7: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da7: 600.000MB/s transfers da7: Command Queueing enabled da7: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 364801C) da3 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 7 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da3: 600.000MB/s transfers da3: Command Queueing enabled da3: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 364801C) da4 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 8 lun 0 da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da4: 600.000MB/s transfers da4: Command Queueing enabled da4: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 364801C) da5 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 10 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da5: 600.000MB/s transfers da5: Command Queueing enabled da5: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 364801C) da2 at mps0 bus 0 scbus0 target 6 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da2: 600.000MB/s transfers da2: Command Queueing enabled da2: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 364801C) SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! da10 at mps1 bus 0 scbus1 target 13 lun 0SMP: AP CPU #11 Launched! da10: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da10: 600.000MB/s transfers da10: Command Queueing enabled da10: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 364801C)SMP: AP CPU #4 Launched! cd0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 150.000MB/s transfers (SATA 1.x, UDMA6, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 8192bytes)SMP: AP CPU #14 Launched! cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed da9 at mps1 bus 0 scbus1 target 12 lun 0SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! da9: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-6 device da9: 600.000MB/s transfers da9: Command Queueing enabled da9: 2861588MB (5860533168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 364801C)SMP: AP CPU #6 Launched! 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Root mount waiting for: usbus5 usbus2 Root mount waiting for: usbus5 usbus2 uhub2: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered uhub5: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered ugen5.2: at usbus5 uhub7: on usbus5 Root mount waiting for: usbus5 uhub7: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered Root mount waiting for: usbus5 ugen5.3: at usbus5 ukbd0: on usbus5 kbd2 at ukbd0 ums0: on usbus5 ums0: 3 buttons and [Z] coordinates ID=0 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/gpt/disk0 ZFS filesystem version: 5 ZFS storage pool version: features support (5000) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 15:33:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6686B5F1 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:33:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8D01E49 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF5619EC51 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:32:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.8.0 (20120630) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([213.251.152.9]) by newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id BVxa_Oe59x1a for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:32:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B0FB219EC4A for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:32:53 +0200 (CEST) From: "bsd@todoo.biz" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Upgrading from 7.4 to 9.1 Message-Id: <91783164-A3FF-4225-8DBC-6C013CF1FD34@todoo.biz> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:32:53 +0200 To: Liste FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 15:33:01 -0000 Hi,=20 I wanted to know if you would consider updating from 7.4 to 9.1 directly = ?=20 Has anyone tried that with success ?=20 I plan to use the freebsd-update method.=20 Thanks for your feedback.=20 G.B.=20 ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 16:27:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF2391C for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.107.128.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716D01029 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r3RGRfWE025946; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:27:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r3RGReVv025943; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:27:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:27:40 -0400 (EDT) From: doug To: "bsd@todoo.biz" Subject: Re: Upgrading from 7.4 to 9.1 In-Reply-To: <91783164-A3FF-4225-8DBC-6C013CF1FD34@todoo.biz> Message-ID: References: <91783164-A3FF-4225-8DBC-6C013CF1FD34@todoo.biz> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Liste FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:27:47 -0000 On Sat, 27 Apr 2013, bsd@todoo.biz wrote: > Hi, > > I wanted to know if you would consider updating from 7.4 to 9.1 directly ? > > Has anyone tried that with success ? > > I plan to use the freebsd-update method. > > Thanks for your feedback. > > G.B. If you are not a developer (I am not), I think the short answer don't do it. I think the issue is leaving stuff behind that might hurt. Eventually would be much worse than immediate problems, especially for a remote server. My experience with freebsd-update has been if a mirror has the diff, then it will work. That said, I have never skipped a version. Earlier threads on this topic suggest its better to go to 8.0-rel then to the latest 8.x then to 9. For me I used CD/DVD even though it meant a drive. I would not be too suprised if freebsd-update balked at skipping 8. If you are physically with the system, it will not take too much time to try it. The process of a minimal install from CD then freebsd-update is not very long. If you are running Xorg, it is the only way IMO. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 16:28:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D270F9D2 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D4D103C for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9E419D6F7 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:28:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.8.0 (20120630) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([213.251.152.9]) by newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [213.251.152.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id gD40DuFNwXz4 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:28:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: hidden) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8ABFD19D6F2 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:28:58 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: Upgrading from 7.4 to 9.1 From: "bsd@todoo.biz" In-Reply-To: <20859.63642.599460.21668@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:28:58 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <91783164-A3FF-4225-8DBC-6C013CF1FD34@todoo.biz> <20859.63642.599460.21668@jerusalem.litteratus.org> To: Liste FreeBSD X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:28:59 -0000 Le 27 avr. 2013 =E0 18:11, Robert Huff a =E9crit : >=20 > bsd@todoo.biz writes: >=20 >> I wanted to know if you would consider updating from 7.4 to 9.1 >> directly ? >>=20 >> Has anyone tried that with success ?=20 >=20 > Someone, somewhere. :-) > =09 >> I plan to use the freebsd-update method.=20 >=20 > Less sure about this. >=20 > While it is certainly possible, many (myself included) will > recommend a clean install. Doing so has the following advantages: >=20 > 1) while it requires an unused disk, the old disk is still > available if anything Goes Horribly Wrong(tm). > 2) once the 9.1 system is fully functional, you can mount the > 7.4 disk read-only and copy any needed files. > 3) it will also de-clutter the file systems. > 4) speaking of file systems, you can add/delete/change > partitions to implement lessons learned since the 7.4 system > was installed. Well to tell you the truth, the main reason I was asking is that I'll = have to visit my datacenter in order to do a clean install=85 as opposed = to remote upgrade.=20 So I was wondering if that could be ok.=20 But I'll stick to your advice.=20 Unless someone else tells me that It is a painless rapid update.=20 Thx.=20 >=20 >=20 > Respectfully, >=20 >=20 > Robert Huff >=20 ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - ________________________________________________ =AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?= =BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7=AB?=BB=A5=AB?=BB=A7 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 16:43:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421EFBDD for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.107.128.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39D010C9 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r3RGhcGe028998 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:43:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) with ESMTP id r3RGhcJj028995 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:43:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:43:38 -0400 (EDT) From: doug To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.14.5/8.14.5 on fbsd-9.1R (EC2) In-Reply-To: <517B8ED2.3060103@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <20130426153728.M27769@ezo.net> <517B8ED2.3060103@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:43:38 -0400 (EDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:43:39 -0000 On Sat, 27 Apr 2013, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 26/04/2013 16:51, jflowers wrote: >> All I want to do is have the MTA listen on 127.0.0.1 port 1025 and have no >> sendmail process listen on the server interface. That's being done by assp >> which proxies messages to 127.0.0.1:1025. Unfortunately, I haven't been able >> to figure out how to turn off the default. Sockstat shows: >> >> root sendmail 1672 4 tcp4 *:25 *:* >> root sendmail 1672 5 tcp6 *:25 *:* >> root sendmail 1672 6 tcp4 127.0.0.1:1025 *:* >> root sendmail 1672 7 tcp4 111.222.333.444:587 *:* >> >> The relevant mc entries are: >> >> DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv4, Family=inet') >> DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Name=IPv6, Family=inet6, Modifiers=O') >> DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=1025, Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA') >> VIRTUSER_DOMAIN_FILE(`/etc/mail/virtual-domains') >> FEATURE(`no_default_msa') >> DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=587, Addr= 111.222.333.444, Name=MSA, M=E') >> >> The MSA isn't strictly necessary now but I thought might have a future use. >> >> So, what am I missing? How do I turn *:25 off so that when assp goes down (as >> it frequently does) I'm not running an open relay (all user/domain validation >> is done in assp). >> >> Any pointers in the right direction appreciated. > > You pretty much already have the answer already. Add 'Addr=127.0.0.1' > or 'Addr=::1' clauses to your first two DAEMON_OPTIONS lines. That will > limit sendmail to listening on port 25 only on the loopback interface. > > Or indeed, remove those two lines entirely to leave sendmail only > listening on port 587. This should not prevent sendmail from sending > outgoing messages, but will prevent any incoming. If sendmail is listening on port 587, it will relay for any valid sender who can reach that port. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 16:55:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4701CFFF for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1176C1142 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:55:36 +0000 (UTC) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Ls0QOwhc c=1 sm=0 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:17 a=XQSOeM1tqLIA:10 a=AaUjGI9IrlcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=OA2lqS22AAAA:8 a=sIt-5M63AAAA:8 a=KZx8SA678ZQA:10 a=ZnfLzJXYAAAA:8 a=EmySHn0BwEJjG4jh3WwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=nVny9ETX7T5uMhI2oTVyRA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=roberthuff@rcn.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=roberthuff@rcn.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 209.6.193.164 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of rcn.com) Received: from [209.6.193.164] ([209.6.193.164:64293] helo=jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id B2/36-27962-5030C715; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:55:36 -0400 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <20860.771.245361.700158@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:55:31 -0400 To: "bsd@todoo.biz" Subject: Re: Upgrading from 7.4 to 9.1 In-Reply-To: References: <91783164-A3FF-4225-8DBC-6C013CF1FD34@todoo.biz> <20859.63642.599460.21668@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 22) "Instant Classic" XEmacs Lucid Cc: Liste FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 16:55:37 -0000 bsd@todoo.biz writes: > >> I wanted to know if you would consider updating from 7.4 to 9.1 > >> directly ? > >>=20 > >> Has anyone tried that with success ?=20 > > > =09While it is certainly possible, many (myself included) will > > recommend a clean install. Doing so has the following advantages:= > =20 > Well to tell you the truth, the main reason I was asking is that > I'll have to visit my datacenter in order to do a clean install=85 > as opposed to remote upgrade. =09If you know your hardware, you can build a disk /here/, send it /there/, and have someone swap disks. Usually - but not always - one can simply copy the kernel configuration file and rebuild kernel+world. (Read /usr/src/UPDATING before doing so,) > Unless someone else tells me that It is a painless rapid update. =09It's painless ... except when it isn't. =09:-) =09=09Robert "trust in Allah, but tie up your camel" Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 17:14:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00058328 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:14:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7543D11DE for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r3RHE2xD028160 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:14:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk r3RHE2xD028160 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/r3RHE2xD028160; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none (unprotected policy) Message-ID: <517C0753.2010506@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:13:55 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.14.5/8.14.5 on fbsd-9.1R (EC2) References: <20130426153728.M27769@ezo.net> <517B8ED2.3060103@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2RLSFINLNBFNGVLHLJJCP" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:14:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2RLSFINLNBFNGVLHLJJCP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27/04/2013 17:43, doug wrote: >>> DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=3D587, Addr=3D 111.222.333.444, Name=3DMSA, M=3D= E') > If sendmail is listening on port 587, it will relay for any valid sende= r > who can reach that port. You see where it says 'M=3DE' in that DAEMON_OPTIONS line? That should probably be changed to 'M=3DEa' meaning 'require authentication'. That's= usually the right thing to do for a message submission agent, and the use of authentication will allow senders to relay through the daemon without the usual anti-relaying checks. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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I am trying to install FreeBSD 9 to my notebook Acer Aspire V3-571G. Ports I am trying to install: /usr/ports/x11/xorg My issue is that build fails on an unclear reason. Workflow is: 1. Install FreeBSD 2. Install system updates 3. Download and extract latest ports cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg make BATCH="YES" install clean Please, help me on those questions: 1. How to fix this issue and build XORG properly 2. Are there any locations where I can take latest packages? (Using "pkg_add -r " downloads rather old packages, I want the latest ones) ============== Regards, Vlad From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 27 18:29:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24AFB81F for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7C814D1 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.113.121.109] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UW9rs-0000KZ-Jf; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:29:05 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r3RIT2vD001170; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:29:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de (8.14.5/8.14.3/Submit) id r3RIT1K5001169; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:29:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:29:01 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: =?utf-8?B?0KHQsNCy0LXQu9GM0LXQsiDQktC70LDQtNC40LzQuNGA?= Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9 port XORG failed to install Message-ID: <20130427182900.GA1113@tiny.Sisis.de> References: <1832771367081976@web14h.yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1832771367081976@web14h.yandex.ru> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT r226986 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 82.113.121.109 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:29:13 -0000 Hi Савельев Владимир, El día Saturday, April 27, 2013 a las 08:59:36PM +0400, Савельев Владимир escribió: > Hi, colleagues! > > I am trying to install FreeBSD 9 to my notebook Acer Aspire V3-571G. > Ports I am trying to install: > > /usr/ports/x11/xorg > > My issue is that build fails on an unclear reason. Workflow is: > > 1. Install FreeBSD > > 2. Install system updates > > 3. Download and extract latest ports How do you do this exactly? From SVN? > > cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg > > make BATCH="YES" install clean Please show the last hundred lines of the output of this. Without messages nobody can help you. matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: guru@unixarea.de | - Never being an iSlave WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments, no HTML/RTF in E-mail phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards