From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 22 20:18:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2309337B400 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vienna9.his.com (vienna9.his.com [216.200.68.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E2E43E72 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 20:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [146.106.12.76] (root@[127.0.0.1]) by vienna9.his.com (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g7MMhH300902; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020822205146.GA36456@grumpy.dyndns.org> References: <69122C86-B56D-11D6-8C70-003065715DA8@pursued-with.net> <1029964014.226.3.camel@markx.vladsempire.net> <20020822130841.G26883@mail.seattleFenix.net> <20020822205146.GA36456@grumpy.dyndns.org> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 00:41:58 +0200 To: David Kelly , Benjamin Krueger From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a Mac Cc: Josh Paetzel , Kevin Stevens , John Bleichert , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 3:51 PM -0500 2002/08/22, David Kelly wrote: > Have an Apple G4 sitting right here but not interested enough to verify > who manufactured it to remove its heatsink. Was my understanding IBM's > big bally-hoo'ed copper chip process was being used and that most if not > all G4's were manufactured by IBM. Nope. IBM only recently licensed the AltiVec technology from Motorola, and so far as I know hasn't used it in any chips. They still make the faster G3 chips, but only Motorola makes the G4 chips. Most any Mac sold in the last two or three years with a G3 has a chip from IBM, and any Mac sold with a G4 must have had it sourced from Motorola. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message