From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jul 20 1:32: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E147737BB90 for ; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 01:32:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7411DB66; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:31:53 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 10:01:43 +0200 To: "David Schwartz" , "Brett Glass" , "Rahul Siddharthan" , From: Brad Knowles Subject: RE: ORBS vs MAPS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 5:48 PM -0700 2000/7/19, David Schwartz wrote: > ORBS consistently attempts to pass email through other people's machines > through the use of spoofed headers. This is illegal in many jurisdictions. > IMO, a single spoofed header is SPAM and network abuse. No, they don't spoof any headers at all. In fact, they clearly label all the test e-mail they send as being from their testing server. They do try all the same standard tricks on the sender and recipient addresses that junkmailers are known to try, to see if the machine in question might not properly look inside quotes, or mistakenly think that they can trust the claimed envelope sender as opposed to looking at the IP address, etc.... However, this isn't spoofing headers. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message