From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 26 3: 8:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FA937B423 for ; Sat, 26 May 2001 03:08:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fredrik@speechcraft.com) Received: from d1o74.telia.com (d1o74.telia.com [62.20.224.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4QA8F100957 for ; Sat, 26 May 2001 12:08:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from molly.telia.com (t5o74p30.telia.com [212.181.216.30]) by d1o74.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05779 for ; Sat, 26 May 2001 12:08:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 12:08:32 +0000 (/etc/localtime) From: Fredrik Olausson X-Sender: fredrik@molly.telia.com To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The desktop apathy In-Reply-To: <20010525183157B.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, that name does sound familiar ;) I have high hopes for Apple in this endeavour, with a bit of luck it will change the stamp on Unix as being for systems administrators and developers only. However, Apple isn't really a part of the open-source community, and it is the attitude in the community that I'm concerned about. There is a general atmosphere of resignation (call it "consolidation" if you will). I might be wrong, I certainly hope I am, but if I'm right about this, it is certainly a problem. It would be the first time the community lets go of a market segment, and once it has been done for one segment, it is very easy to do it in another. As for "world domination", as long as Microsoft dominates the desktop, they have a very good weapon for dominating the server market as well. What if Microsoft introduces a really kick-ass, proprietary, extension to Explorer that only works together with an IIS server? What about this illustrious "dot NET initiative"? It is true that the server market is the most important one, but the desktop an server segments affect one another to a great extent. We NEED the desktop! -Fredrik On Fri, 25 May 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Ever heard of a little company called Apple? They're generating a lot > of BSD + Desktop buzz right now and from where I'm sitting, at least, > it's quite audible. :-) > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message